: > [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L0wYFEYi,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2019-06-16T23:32:11.312+0000) > > This is just untrue. A lot of AP assassins scale well. > > A Fizz/Kassadin/Eve will probably be able to 1v1 a Zed in the late game. > > Or have stronger early/mid games, or more utility, such as Leblanc or Ekko. > > Or compare it someone like talon, who has a stronger lane phases but is easier to 1v1 in the late game. lmao. Zed is the best scaling assassin in the game. No single other assassin besides a fed Akali can even duel Riven or other bruisers. Fizz has zero kill pressure on Zed. Zed late forces Fizz's pole with a WEQ combo because otherwise the Fizz loses 70% of his HP to a late game WEQ electrocute combo from zed (and he'll never land the pole damage on a Zed thanks to shadow swap), and once his pole is down Zed is free to use his ult for an easy win. Kassadin won't make it out of lane against a half competent Zed. Zed builds Edge of Night so the moment charm pops up he just channels it and blows up the Eve. Leblanc is not an assassin anyway you cut it anymore than Zoe is. Ekko, Fizz, Kassadin, and Talon all have far worse laning phases, especially against artillery mages, whom Zed excels against. The whole point of Talon is to rush tiamat to push and roam since he can't duel the vast majority of the midlane roster past lv6 and his only hope is a lv2-3 cheese kill if his opponent is r%%%%%ed enough to not abuse the fact Talon's single engagement tool is a pitiful 575 range linear dash that lines him up perfectly for any CC skillshot any mage will have to deny Talon both an engage and a stack passive. Talon's whole goal in a game is to push and invade enemy jg/bot lane to try to snowball because if the game gets past lv12 and he's not incredibly fed, he becomes the most useless assassin in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L0wYFEYi,comment-id=0004000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T01:40:07.360+0000) > > lmao. Zed is the best scaling assassin in the game. No single other assassin besides a fed Akali can even duel Riven or other bruisers. > > Fizz has zero kill pressure on Zed. Zed late forces Fizz's pole with a WEQ combo because otherwise the Fizz loses 70% of his HP to a late game WEQ electrocute combo from zed (and he'll never land the pole damage on a Zed thanks to shadow swap), and once his pole is down Zed is free to use his ult for an easy win. Kassadin won't make it out of lane against a half competent Zed. Zed builds Edge of Night so the moment charm pops up he just channels it and blows up the Eve. > > Leblanc is not an assassin anyway you cut it anymore than Zoe is. > > Ekko, Fizz, Kassadin, and Talon all have far worse laning phases, especially against artillery mages, whom Zed excels against. > > The whole point of Talon is to rush tiamat to push and roam since he can't duel the vast majority of the midlane roster past lv6 and his only hope is a lv2-3 cheese kill if his opponent is r%%%%%ed enough to not abuse the fact Talon's single engagement tool is a pitiful 575 range linear dash that lines him up perfectly for any CC skillshot any mage will have to deny Talon both an engage and a stack passive. Talon's whole goal in a game is to push and invade enemy jg/bot lane to try to snowball because if the game gets past lv12 and he's not incredibly fed, he becomes the most useless assassin in the game. Talons laning phase is so bad he is one of the best champions in the game right now. Yeah right.
Barso55 (NA)
: WTF is not leashing your jungler or protecting buffs the new meta? (SEA Garena)
Why would i leash topside? A) My jungler won't come top anyways so i'm not giving a fuck i don't want him anyways. B) Me getting the push and lvl 2 will likely result in firstblood C) Me getting pushed in might end up in me getting killed or losing too much lane pressure. Junglers have enough sustain to do buffs solo. But i agree many junglers should go through a tutorial of the current meta before they go into ranked, farm up every game and coinflip 50/50 while the other jungler does 1v9
: The Galio situation.
Or maybe riot should just accept that if they make a champion perfect for competitive play they shouldn't turn around and be all pikachu face that the champ is good in fuckin competitive play. They either need to make serious changes to his kit or just accept that he is a good pro play champ. I don't see sivir gutted and reworked because she is picked every single game in comp play. Or how vayne is STILL picked in comp since they overbuffed her. Fuckin vayne should NEVER be played in competitive. But i feel you. ONe of my favorite champions (swain) got reworked into something absolutely different, with pro play in mind who turned out to be too good in pro play and now he is just left to rot. Great fuckin rework riot games. Was so hype to see old swain picked in pro play by betsy and as a pocket pick of some others. Now? Unplayable trash that isn't even fun to play and gets ignored for over a year because noone plays him anymore. You can only recommend people to play riots favorite they never have to worry about being weak or getting reworked even if they make the game a living hell for others.
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demon,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T07:22:54.090+0000) > > Why is everyone defending teamo when his strat isn't really ideal one? If you call on mid and someone starts to soak all your exp and says "am not farming at all" you would actually report them for ruining your lane. Lol dude has an 80% winrate and you're gonna sit there and say his strat isn't ideal? If this shit came out of Korea you'd have dudes dry humping their mouse trying to click Teemo so fast that your fucking head would spin.
> [{quoted}](name=GodEmperorVeigar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T08:29:20.809+0000) > > Lol dude has an 80% winrate and you're gonna sit there and say his strat isn't ideal? If this shit came out of Korea you'd have dudes dry humping their mouse trying to click Teemo so fast that your fucking head would spin. 80% winrate? XDDDDD He has 48% in over 400 games. His "strat" not only ruins the gaming experience for his teammates but also loses him more games than he wins.
: Your greatest weakness in league is?
: I kind of like his new W concept but they totally could have made it crow themed instead of his new...demon weirdness also, the badass master tactician theme was great...now he just seems cruel and unrelatable for the old swain, it only took one part of his lore to make you think "wow, what a guy" , where he walks into the field medic's tent with his femur protruding out of his leg, just asks the medic for a cane, pushed his bone back in to set it and just hobbled out on the cane...
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b7yRX9ks,comment-id=0001000000030000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:19:55.461+0000) > > I kind of like his new W concept but they totally could have made it crow themed instead of his new...demon weirdness > > also, the badass master tactician theme was great...now he just seems cruel and unrelatable > > for the old swain, it only took one part of his lore to make you think "wow, what a guy" , where he walks into the field medic's tent with his femur protruding out of his leg, just asks the medic for a cane, pushed his bone back in to set it and just hobbled out on the cane... I mean technically he was supposed to be a warlock and if i'm not mistaken warlocks are mages who lend their powers from demons to drain their enemies life forces. But beatrice could have very well been that demon. Yup, master tactician always on the frontline rumored to fight by himself as a man eating monstrosity now he looks like legolas pretending to be hitler. EXACTLY. God do i miss reading up the lore and actually falling in love with them. Maybe it's because i'm 25 now and not 17 anymore but i thought swain was so badass and when i saw the rework trailer i was SO HYPED and then not even beatrice remains in the kit... It's a cool concept yeah but not really thought through and feels more like a "quick give him something that makes him viable in pro play" ability.
: To be honest, if you guys had a feeding Teemo support with 48% winrate going midlane instead of support and had your botlane tower busted in 7 mins you WILL be tilted. Soloque is filled with these people and you DO report them on a daily basis. This is blatant hypocrisy. I sometimes DO go duo top and deny the enemy toplaner over 70cs but I do it when I can communicate with my allies and get their permission. These guys were not given even a chance to say "I don't like that". It is just only a damn ultimatum of a lose or 48% winrate snowflake Teemo support mid. And a ultimatum akin to a gun aimed at your ALLIES is just a asshole move. This is a teamgame of 5 on your side. If there isn't majority votes or heck CONVINCING RESULTS showing that is not teamwork. In the past I had a soloque game with that "support singed". He literally ditched the ADC, MIDLANER, JUNGLER, TOPLANER and taxed the crap out of them so he can play "his game" and we were literally forced to be his slaves. If I knew this would happen I would have dodged and not played with him.
> [{quoted}](name=Zeppelins circus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=anyPuzGM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T03:16:07.378+0000) > > To be honest, if you guys had a feeding Teemo support with 48% winrate going midlane instead of support and had your botlane tower busted in 7 mins you WILL be tilted. Soloque is filled with these people and you DO report them on a daily basis. This is blatant hypocrisy. > > I sometimes DO go duo top and deny the enemy toplaner over 70cs but I do it when I can communicate with my allies and get their permission. These guys were not given even a chance to say "I don't like that". It is just only a damn ultimatum of a lose or 48% winrate snowflake Teemo support mid. And a ultimatum akin to a gun aimed at you ALLIES is just a asshole move. Well yeah which is what i'm saying. I don't get the hundreds of people on reddit and boards saying "he dun nuffin wrung". It's okay to rage about nightbloos behaviour, it is okay to ask about the rioter who is supposedly nightblues "friend" but don't act like this teemo ruining the game is fun for anyone. Edit: I also now included a vod from soulmarios perspective so maybe people realize what his team has to go throw just so the teemo can play the way "he wants". Same as that singed guy ruining the experience (e.g. griefing) of his teammates who were not asked or prepared for what is going to happen.
4th3t0s (NA)
: The really pathetic thing, I'm not even a fan of Tyler1, but at least he had his entertaining moments; this guy is just a whiner. To make it worse, the guy playing Teemo literally did NOTHING wrong at all; yes, Sivir can 1v2, yes, he secured FB and got Irelia fed, roaming has always been a valid playstyle, so what the hell? 1. Edit: Side note, it's a {{champion:44}}/{{champion:37}} botlane, you literally can't do shit against that except farm or get poked down; all the more reason to push a solo lane ahead.
> [{quoted}](name=DontHueMeBro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-06-15T02:26:33.454+0000) > > The really pathetic thing, I'm not even a fan of Tyler1, but at least he had his entertaining moments; this guy is just a whiner. To make it worse, the guy playing Teemo literally did NOTHING wrong at all; yes, Sivir can 1v2, yes, he secured FB and got Irelia fed, roaming has always been a valid playstyle, so what the hell? > > 1. Edit: Side note, it's a {{champion:44}}/{{champion:37}} botlane, you literally can't do shit against that except farm or get poked down; all the more reason to push a solo lane ahead. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/437954861?t=39m36s Here watch this. "Teemo did nothing wrong" except ruin the game for his top AND botlaner and not giving a fuck when asked NOT to do it. He doesn't say anything in champselect, he just picks teemo and Qs for support and ruins the game for everyone involved. You can't just force your teammates to play the way YOU want. This nubrac is extremely selfish and actually just a dick. Having a 48% winrate which wouldnt keep him in masters. He literally only does this to get exposure hence why five games in a row he gets into a game with dom, soulmario, two times karasmai, fogged. And plays amumu, leona to even out the games he ruins the game on teemo. Edit: okay the time stamp doesn't work in this link somehow, game starts at around 40 mins into the vod.
Coyote (NA)
: PSA: Do NOT accept a queue after a dodge or failed accept on the found game screen!
What is autofill? I play toplane so i never get this autofill thing?
: Tahm top meta show us how much balance team undestand of this game
Tahm kench is fine just pick a ranged champion or ban him :) Toplane isn't meant for melees anyway, now a mage lane :)
Comentários de Rioters
Voluug13 (NA)
: Half the reworks made broken champions, and like out of the other half, like 60% of it are ones that were handled terribly, like the original sin, Karma. The amount of good reworks are like uhhh WW, Poppy, Swain, Xerath, Soraka and Sion, and thats kinda it. Maybe Sona. Every reworked assassin has been broken or terrible, every reworked battlemage has been extremely broken (and promply nerfhammered) or terrible or LCS-only picks. Good reworks are few and afar, and more often that not the ones made by people with actual braincells instead of bad devs like CertainlyBroken.
> [{quoted}](name=Voluug13,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b7yRX9ks,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-14T04:03:05.395+0000) > > Half the reworks made broken champions, and like out of the other half, like 60% of it are ones that were handled terribly, like the original sin, Karma. The amount of good reworks are like uhhh WW, Poppy, Swain, Xerath, Soraka and Sion, and thats kinda it. Maybe Sona. > > Every reworked assassin has been broken or terrible, every reworked battlemage has been extremely broken (and promply nerfhammered) or terrible or LCS-only picks. Good reworks are few and afar, and more often that not the ones made by people with actual braincells instead of bad devs like CertainlyBroken. How in hell is swain a good rework? Nothing about the old character has been preserved. He is just another generic boring burst mage. Hit long range cc, nuke em. Slap on some random ass W that is total garbage. Looks completely different, plays completely different. All swain needed was a visual update. A new passive maybe a new E. Not this shit. Now he is complete garbage and has less playrate than the old one. Gimme back my swain not this shit.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yJq27kVI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-13T12:17:46.922+0000) > > Well... He is a juggernaut. Overpowered and annoying is the theme of the class. The only difference is now he's _actually_ a juggernaut, instead of being a buggy mess of ideas that didn't go together. And people haven't figured out the easiest way to counter said juggernauts (especially him): Ranged, and QSS.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yJq27kVI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T12:35:22.849+0000) > > And people haven't figured out the easiest way to counter said juggernauts (especially him): Ranged, and QSS. If the only way to deal with a champion is to pick a different champion it's bad design. But i come from a time when league wasn't a parody of itself and the core design philosophy was "if you are good enough you can beat it". Now people say "just pick another broken champ 4Head"
: League of Enjoy whatever ride your bot lane throws you on.
Well adcs never got their compensation buffs reverted. Get their items back. Get a steraks for no reason. Wow adcs are broken again who would have thought. This game will forever be adcs or nothing just that's what it is. Apparently the biggest playerbase after or even before midlaner/mage players so yeah we can't ever expect this game to have other roles that truly matter. ADCs come online at one item. Bruisers get outscaled after one item. Ever played darius at like 6 items? Even with like 250-300 ad it's fuckin pathetic how little damage a bruiser actually deals apart from his 1k true dmg ult nukes. Everyone now has 2k+ base health in lategame. Mages even 2,5k. ON top of shields and heals and running around with 100+ armor. Midlane also pretty much only carries by roaming botlane. Which is again why people get burned out so quickly. Every game you have to do the same. Roam botlane or lose the game because they int.
Comentários de Rioters
: if riot would at least admit it lol. i think everyone can understand that you need to make money to keep something this big going. and champs that noone plays obviously wont bring in much money. its totally cool with me if they make a skin for popular champs. but whats not cool is riot literally denying it and lying
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AfT2TjLm,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:50:18.604+0000) > > if riot would at least admit it lol. > i think everyone can understand that you need to make money to keep something this big going. and champs that noone plays obviously wont bring in much money. > its totally cool with me if they make a skin for popular champs. > > but whats not cool is riot literally denying it and lying Yeah but as everything riot does it's actually pretty shady how they do it. When camille is good she has 20% playrate. Same back when urgot was good. Yet riot acts like "noone likes to play monsters". Maybe kaisa is just giga broken and that's why she has a 50% pickrate same with ezreal. Ofc these champs get played when they are overpowered. And that's what pisses me actually off. A lot of these "noone wants to play them champs" are played a lot if they are not super garbage.
: We're all just guinea pigs to Riot. They don't care about ranked play or match making beyond balancing champions around the professional circuit, their money making bread and butter. We're ground zero for all the mishaps for which the balance team is responsible. And they collect the data from the shattered remains of our collective MMR so as to change the rules of the game accordingly and to see us all squirm to their utter delight. Because "fun".
> [{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qnq96645,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-12T13:53:58.631+0000) > > We're all just guinea pigs to Riot. They don't care about ranked play or match making beyond balancing champions around the professional circuit, their money making bread and butter. > > We're ground zero for all the mishaps for which the balance team is responsible. And they collect the data from the shattered remains of our collective MMR so as to change the rules of the game accordingly and to see us all squirm to their utter delight. Because "fun". I mean seriously is it too much to ask to atleast ban the champ for a week or something. Im so sick. As you can see it even makes people more toxic by wanting to play it in ranked and just threaten to run it down. So i leave it open they run it down, they dont they run it down. I dodge, it would have been the third time this day im forced to dodge. First some trolls hard flaming in CS. Then literally 4 ebay accounts in one team. Then the morde player. Like i just want to play league of legends with people at my skill level. Is that too much to ask. Not get trolled, not get release champ first timers. Just. play. league.
Comentários de Rioters
: > [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i0V2vLoW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T00:58:27.213+0000) > > I mained tanks before they died, and this is the shit I dont want happening for their return: Being overly nasty to deal with, and pains in the general ass. Its the same grounds that got us gutted in the first place. I'd rather kill the toad than kill an entire class all over again. riot doesn't want them to be tanky so they are smashing damage into their kits im not saying i like tk killing people but it's honestly the only way a tank can be viable top why would you pick a tank when irelia can 1v1 you throughout all points in the game without much effoty? why pick mao when jax can outheal your damage and kill you in 4 seconds tanks really have no place in the current meta and if a tank has to be able to win every matchup in lane to be close to viable im fine with this playing with or against him im completely fine with this
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i0V2vLoW,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T07:34:39.150+0000) > > riot doesn't want them to be tanky so they are smashing damage into their kits > im not saying i like tk killing people but it's honestly the only way a tank can be viable top > > why would you pick a tank when irelia can 1v1 you throughout all points in the game without much effoty? > why pick mao when jax can outheal your damage and kill you in 4 seconds > > tanks really have no place in the current meta and if a tank has to be able to win every matchup in lane to be close to viable im fine with this > playing with or against him im completely fine with this Then maybe tanks just shouldnt be able to solo lane. If the only way to make them viable is brainlessly smashing one interaction button off cooldown until they won laning phase against any opponent then maybe tanks in league are just shit design and shouldnt be allowed to solo lane. Ofc you are fine with it considering your champ pool.
: Also, your losing lane to Fiora as Riven then ... Also, her problem is more around %max Hp Also, there are way more problematic top laners rn {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:67}} They make Fiora look like the weakest part of the meta
> [{quoted}](name=Galaxyburstz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VYzkgXiZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-07T01:34:15.137+0000) > > Also, your losing lane to Fiora as Riven then ... > > Also, her problem is more around %max Hp > > Also, there are way more problematic top laners rn > > {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:67}} > > They make Fiora look like the weakest part of the meta Kled is a dead pick are u like. Hello? And fiora just destroys kled btw. Aatrox is heavily overrated so is darius. Also your list misses irelia and renekton if we are talking about stupidity and also riven.
: I will only agree to this when they fix the hitbox width issue, the hitbox is wider than the visual itself which is incredibly misleading and thus causes confusion and issues.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NAnO3y04,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:30:13.783+0000) > > I will only agree to this when this fix the hitbox width issue, the hitbox is wider than the visual itself which is incredibly misleading and thus causes confusion and issues. Fuck the hitbox, let me atleast see her fuckin abilities. Last week i played against lux mid as GP sadly i don't recall the skin anymore. Either battle academia or lunar empress you literally can not make a difference between her Q and E and her Q is actually invisible. One of them can't recall which one is legit pay2win i got hit by every single Q in lane because i either couldn't see it because it's nearly dunno how to explain colorless and thin or i mistook it for an E and actually walked into it trying to dodge the supposed E.
: Can you please, for the love of god, stop touching this champ. He used to be a support, mainly because he was a good safety net for inept adc's who always went out of position. Riot pushed him out of support by nerfing his W on allies. Now he's played toplane to deal with the current 'hurdurdur I'm riven and you can't kill me' to match it, and people give an outcry. Finally, a glimpse of tank meta is returning where as tahm kench you are fighting for a good amount of time with your enemy, rather than getting blown up, and everyone seems to cry about it. You can literally pick anything into kench (if you use conq or lethal tempo) and you can just roam and kill the enemy mid while tahm is busy farming top and doing 0 damage to the turret. Literally, the reason people lose this matchup is because people go firstpick riven/jax top and cry when they get counterpicked by something tanky that can deal with them. I actually feel usefull as a tank now, at least in 1v1. Going into a fed team (fed by my teammates) you end up dead in 2.3s anyways so there's no much difference other than that the dumbass bruiser kid who doesn't even have to think about managing resources or cd's is now rekt by a tank that counterbuilds. REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY? BRUISERS > ADC ASSASSINS > ADC ADC > TANK TANK > BRUISERS BRUISERS > ASSASSINS We are finally at a tipping point, I hope to see more tanky toplaners so fights actually require some skill and thinking (where will i spit him etc, when will I shield). Currently it's just a big urf fest.
> [{quoted}](name=IkBenShteen,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wr2YBLO5,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-06-10T15:22:47.423+0000) > > Can you please, for the love of god, stop touching this champ. He used to be a support, mainly because he was a good safety net for inept adc's who always went out of position. Riot pushed him out of support by nerfing his W on allies. Now he's played toplane to deal with the current 'hurdurdur I'm riven and you can't kill me' to match it, and people give an outcry. Finally, a glimpse of tank meta is returning where as tahm kench you are fighting for a good amount of time with your enemy, rather than getting blown up, and everyone seems to cry about it. > > You can literally pick anything into kench (if you use conq or lethal tempo) and you can just roam and kill the enemy mid while tahm is busy farming top and doing 0 damage to the turret. Literally, the reason people lose this matchup is because people go firstpick riven/jax top and cry when they get counterpicked by something tanky that can deal with them. > > I actually feel usefull as a tank now, at least in 1v1. Going into a fed team (fed by my teammates) you end up dead in 2.3s anyways so there's no much difference other than that the dumbass bruiser kid who doesn't even have to think about managing resources or cd's is now rekt by a tank that counterbuilds. > > REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY? BRUISERS > ADC ASSASSINS > ADC ADC > TANK TANK > BRUISERS BRUISERS > ASSASSINS > > We are finally at a tipping point, I hope to see more tanky toplaners so fights actually require some skill and thinking (where will i spit him etc, when will I shield). Currently it's just a big urf fest. Yeah tank champions are the epitome of skill in league.
: how do people even get in bronze? last season i tried to hard int this acc into bronze and i couldn't get it under silver 3. I'm pretty sure everyone in "elo hell" is just too self absorbed to see it's more their fault than riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Dominion Chi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0nRrrvj6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-11T01:31:59.686+0000) > > how do people even get in bronze? last season i tried to hard int this acc into bronze and i couldn't get it under silver 3. > > > I'm pretty sure everyone in "elo hell" is just too self absorbed to see it's more their fault than riot. Every new account gets placed in iron now tho. I went 10-0 in placements on this acc and started at iron 2. Didnt lose a game until plat and then just jerked off due to the bullshit that happened in diamond. Now im diamond and still get like 15 LP tho !XD! Thank god i decided to climb now.
MLG Katt (NA)
: Bruisers
True, adcs need to be the best class early mid and lategame and have no weakness. Fuck bruisers. Shouldn't deal any dmg or be tanky or have CC or do anything. They should just look cool and do fancy shit with no effect. Remember when bruisers used to carry the early-midgame until the adc kicked in? Pepperidge farm remembers. Now you have mages and adcs carrying everything forever and ever.
: Member when
Old riot: Being stunned and oneshotted from stealth is unhealthy for the game, gut that shit. New Riot: We just call it a charm 4Head Eve is so unbelievably god damn broken for soloQ shits insane.
Comentários de Rioters
: I truly think lane rengar is just too oppressive
If the only counterplay to a champion is "dont play the lane" it is unhealthy for the game and should be removed from lane.
: Yeah it's a fun novelty item on champions it isn't overpowered on, but it's just disgusting on the ones it is. For the sake of overall game health, remove it. Nerfing it won't solve anything. If you nerf the effect to like 10% then it's just a useless item. Spear is only useful *because* it is broken.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleeper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i6jAjuFO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T10:15:26.774+0000) > > Yeah it's a fun novelty item on champions it isn't overpowered on, but it's just disgusting on the ones it is. > > For the sake of overall game health, remove it. Nerfing it won't solve anything. If you nerf the effect to like 10% then it's just a useless item. > > Spear is only useful *because* it is broken. Yeah right in a world of seraphs and ludens. IE and phantom dancer SoS is the problem that is also more expensive than any of the other items. Fuckin dipshits.
Naalith (NA)
: I played a bunch of Squadron TD on SC2 so I'm cautiously optimistic. If you go on a losing streak in the "real" game modes this is a fun alternative and these modes are pretty fun and addicting usually. My main concern is the price of the avatars, 750 to get a default one and 490 for a small chance of upgrading the one you like (but you'll be way more likely to get something you don't want) is nuts. Fully upgrading the 6 launch avatars, assuming you buy them all at the randomized 490 discount, is 8820 RP which is ludicrous.
> [{quoted}](name=Naalith,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xnYQA44v,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-10T16:07:46.849+0000) > > I played a bunch of Squadron TD on SC2 so I'm cautiously optimistic. If you go on a losing streak in the "real" game modes this is a fun alternative and these modes are pretty fun and addicting usually. > > My main concern is the price of the avatars, 750 to get a default one and 490 for a small chance of upgrading the one you like (but you'll be way more likely to get something you don't want) is nuts. Fully upgrading the 6 launch avatars, assuming you buy them all at the randomized 490 discount, is 8820 RP which is ludicrous. yeaaah i fear it will be an actual cheap shitty version of autochess that functions as a milking machine to rip off the hype instead of putting in the effort to make a high quality version of it considering how popular it is even among people who have no clue about dota i'd say this is a big chance riot is going to let go if they fuck up to promote league even further beyond SR and that's something they always wanted.
: Irelia nerfed again
Unfortunately not nerfed enough. ONly for midlane because midlaners are crying everytime a non mage dares to enter the lane. So they nerf mid irelia so that toplane irelia can win against everyone.
: im tired of seeing the argument that tahm is a support champion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlOFKLmiHA&t=6m44s here is your riots representation of the champions power in top lane AS A TANK he was only picked as a support because his W utility was insane enough to completely ignore his other abilities ie a DEVOUR BOT was better than playing him as a tank top now that you have a 30s cd on your devour if you use it on an ally that means you are literally useless as a support champion if you do that so the only alternative is to play him top lane he was always strong top he was even stronger top and you would often just pick him as a kill lane into melee matchups because those were really impossible for him to lose and i mean impossible in the literal way at 5s cd q @lvl1 it meant that he can quite literally run you down from lvl 1 till lvl 9 without ANY form of counter play currently his Q has an 8s cd early his W does less damage he only got more sustain for his E IE TOP TAHM WAS NERFED learn to play around his strength just like you learned to play around riven and aatrox the sooner you start doing this the sooner you will find that a tahm lane is really just a farming lane and you outscale him by sheer existence in the game play the waves and don't try to fight him like a dumbass
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XYusoVBl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-09T22:13:24.094+0000) > > im tired of seeing the argument that tahm is a support champion > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlOFKLmiHA&t=6m44s > here is your riots representation of the champions power in top lane AS A TANK > > he was only picked as a support because his W utility was insane enough to completely ignore his other abilities > ie a DEVOUR BOT was better than playing him as a tank top > > now that you have a 30s cd on your devour if you use it on an ally that means you are literally useless as a support champion if you do that > so the only alternative is to play him top lane > > he was always strong top he was even stronger top and you would often just pick him as a kill lane into melee matchups because those were really impossible for him to lose > and i mean impossible in the literal way > at 5s cd q @lvl1 it meant that he can quite literally run you down from lvl 1 till lvl 9 without ANY form of counter play > currently his Q has an 8s cd early > his W does less damage > he only got more sustain for his E > IE TOP TAHM WAS NERFED > > learn to play around his strength just like you learned to play around riven and aatrox > the sooner you start doing this the sooner you will find that a tahm lane is really just a farming lane and you outscale him by sheer existence in the game > > play the waves and don't try to fight him like a dumbass OH wow toplaners outscale tahm kench? You mean the once with the most expensive items that are only good if they snowball? Oh wow what great game design. Just farm and coinflip whoever has the btter bot, jungle. Thanks for your insight. Im so glad people like you keep talking about toplane.
koshkyra (NA)
: The game isnt even fun to watch. Teams are too scared of interacting because one mistake can cost you the game right now.
> [{quoted}](name=JamesTheMage15,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NNcsvtOv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-09T15:38:14.923+0000) > > The game isnt even fun to watch. Teams are too scared of interacting because one mistake can cost you the game right now. I mean has any change riot ever has done to make the game more "interesting" on a pro level actually done that? Let's remove all the vision so playing league is more risky and yada yada---> pros start to play even more passively only waveclearing all day long. Or look at the jungle now: What if we force a non stop gank meta?---> The world sees the worlds final bwipo literally getting killed five times in a row, gragas sitting in the brush and whenever bwipo tries to interact he dies.--->no pro ever wants to interact with the game anymore unless coordinated team plays. Who would have fuckin thought that? And i could go on like this mind you, those weren't the only changes.
Saezio (EUNE)
: What's your problem with design team? I thought the balance team was the bad one. xD
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NNcsvtOv,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-09T15:27:15.838+0000) > > What's your problem with design team? I thought the balance team was the bad one. xD They are basically the same. Live design team IS basically their balance team. They make champion and item changes. Rework the jungle etc. Then they have a playtest team who actually plays league of legends because repertoir and fearless and meddler don't play their own shitty game anymore but i heavily doubt they even listen to them at all. Unless they split their teams up they are one and the same
: It is just me or does Riot prefer we watch rather than play the game ?
Isn't it obvious? Riot doesnt give a shit how dog shit it feels to play this game outside a 5v5 premade environment. Their end goal is league to be watched and not to be played apparently or these dipshits on the "design" department would have been fired four seasons ago.
Syrile (NA)
: Why are we complaining about Aftershock when this exists solely to try to counter the nigh-infinite burst and mobility that exists? Including the newest trash champion...
> [{quoted}](name=Syrile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vvTmT1rX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-08T20:06:59.697+0000) > > Why are we complaining about Aftershock when this exists solely to try to counter the nigh-infinite burst and mobility that exists? > Including the newest trash champion... Because aftershock exacerbates the problem? People are now doing r%%%%%ed amounts of burst damage while being unkillable. Oh wow how fun and interactive. Fuckin full dmg vi killing you in Q auto while being tanky as sejuani or rammus. Such a dumb keystone and champs like seju or rammus themselves become actual horrors to face.
: The main issue's Riot's refusal to just reset MMR. How many people don't play for a long period of time, then come back to face the same level of enemies, despite the game they haven't even been playing being completely different? LP/MMR issues catapulted lots of players into Diamond+ ranks, others in the lower ranks also got inflated ranks. Instead of a proper reset we got "enjoy having high Plat 3 players in Diamond now." Champion reworks and releases being allowed in Ranked is just another one of those weird uniquely Riot issues. The rate of releases would be fine, even if it was far increased a fair deal, but why are new championsa nd reworks playable on release in a ranked game modes? No one knows how powerful they are(n't) in the real world. Aside from the small group who plays on PBE, no one knows how to play as, with, or against them yet either.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sQ1iQJ0X,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-08T20:23:12.130+0000) > > The main issue's Riot's refusal to just reset MMR. > > How many people don't play for a long period of time, then come back to face the same level of enemies, despite the game they haven't even been playing being completely different? > > LP/MMR issues catapulted lots of players into Diamond+ ranks, others in the lower ranks also got inflated ranks. Instead of a proper reset we got "enjoy having high Plat 3 players in Diamond now." > > Champion reworks and releases being allowed in Ranked is just another one of those weird uniquely Riot issues. > The rate of releases would be fine, even if it was far increased a fair deal, but why are new championsa nd reworks playable on release in a ranked game modes? > > No one knows how powerful they are(n't) in the real world. > Aside from the small group who plays on PBE, no one knows how to play as, with, or against them yet either. Dude fuckin diamond promos and im still getting like a plat 4 47% WR player in my game who is NOT duo. Gold 5s for five seasons suddenly diamond 4 obviously with like 30 games more lost than won continuing to have no clue what they are doing in this elo and ruining the game. Hard reset should have been the answer. You can't just introduce two new tiers, remove all 5th divisions and change nothing about the MMR and expect everything to work out well. Now you have thousands of people way too high or too low where they actually belong and it will take atleast another half a year of people playing every day instead of tanking their rank to settle it out. Do a hardreset, accept 2 months of wonky matchmaking but gain a restored rank integrity again. Right now its a fuckin joke and every game comes down to "who has more early season LP abusers".
: Then morello's should be an ap version of Mortal reminder. with 60 ap 15 magic pen 2 seconds grevious wounds with abilites. and thats it. Know what you are asking for. Sustain is intentionally supposed to be the counter to Ap burst but you still have morello's applying grevious wounds for a redicilous amount of time.
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2mhiqEv5,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-08T22:21:20.386+0000) > > Then morello's should be an ap version of Mortal reminder. with 60 ap 15 magic pen 2 seconds grevious wounds with abilites. and thats it. > Know what you are asking for. > Sustain is intentionally supposed to be the counter to Ap burst but you still have morello's applying grevious wounds for a redicilous amount of time. Exactly. Morellos should just lose the grievous wounds on it entirely.
: Another balance failure to Irelia, when will they ever decide to nerf the biggest flaw in her kit?
Well ive been saying the same thing. This nerf is only directed at midlane irelia cuz riot doesnt give a fuck that irelia destroys everyone toplane due to her r%%%%%ed passive early. She needs her passive early nerfed hard, buff the scaling change the mark mechanic so she cannot triple Q and oneshot any squishy.
: We need another Udyr/Jax, apparently.
I wanted to comment but then i read "statcheck" multiple times and realized it is not worth the effort.
: Tahm Kench Top Lane
Yes his Q hitbox is ridiculous. Had the pleasure of laning against it twice in a row. Riot doesn't give a fuck about toplane, we need to make sure he reaches their magical line until they do something i can only suggest to ban him every game until then so you can enjoy irelia, vlad, ryze, riven.
BT21 (NA)
: Camille Jungle
No camille is a toplaner not a jungler. Enough toplaners have been gutted into the jungle.
: If tahm was actually op more people would play him but he has a 6% playrate in diamond and a 8% banrate. Like maybe learn to play vs him since it seems in diamond they know how to.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2QlApqdJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-06T22:48:39.198+0000) > > If tahm was actually op more people would play him but he has a 6% playrate in diamond and a 8% banrate. > > Like maybe learn to play vs him since it seems in diamond they know how to. Most Toplaners above everyone else really only want to have fun and 1v1 the shit out of their opponent. Not playing some boring ass catfish that autowins laning phase.
: Because he isn't strong every season that is a lie. Zed was not good last year and was only strong in season 7 since assassins were meta for the first half but after all of them fall off and were shit, he was definitely not meta in season 6. Like is this your first season or something? Like wtf how can you even believe this? There are a few champions that are always good but zed is not one them. Yeah he has not been bad every season but most champions are like that.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-06T10:04:42.048+0000) > > Because he isn't strong every season that is a lie. Zed was not good last year and was only strong in season 7 since assassins were meta for the first half but after all of them fall off and were shit, he was definitely not meta in season 6. > > > Like is this your first season or something? Like wtf how can you even believe this? > There are a few champions that are always good but zed is not one them. Yeah he has not been bad every season but most champions are like that. Zed got gutted to the ground in season 6 because of the non stop whining of bad players. He was legit at 44% winrate and not even mains reached 50%. He came a bit back when lethality came around and got buffed to scale on your own level rather than the enemy. People here are just absolutely delusional. Complaining about zed when talon, kha zix, eve just murder you with no counterplay and no way to actually fight back. And where does this come from? Zed is spammed in gold and below and talon, kha, eve are higher elo picks. Chally is full of talon otps many of whom don't deserve it but talon is kinda broken rn.
: > [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J4qvTgT9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T10:32:20.325+0000) > > but wait according to OP it isn't a real nerf > 4 sec cd nerf at all ranks btw, remember when varus got that and went from top1 adc to top 15? > > lovely The 4 sec CD literally killed the lethality build, boards need to actually put stuff into context before complaining that every nerf isn't about shaving off 100 damage off of an ability or gutting base stats.
> [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J4qvTgT9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T10:52:34.668+0000) > > The 4 sec CD literally killed the lethality build, boards need to actually put stuff into context before complaining that every nerf isn't about shaving off 100 damage off of an ability or gutting base stats. Or maybe riot should just stop favoriting certain champions, ignoring the real issue having to nerf them every other patch by a tad bit and just start hitting the actual issue and see from there. Like how many of these baby nerfs until people realize what her problem is.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: but wait according to OP it isn't a real nerf 4 sec cd nerf at all ranks btw, remember when varus got that and went from top1 adc to top 15? lovely
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J4qvTgT9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T10:32:20.325+0000) > > but wait according to OP it isn't a real nerf > 4 sec cd nerf at all ranks btw, remember when varus got that and went from top1 adc to top 15? > > lovely Yeah just like that -5MS will be a huuuuge nerf and destroy her and we are all dumb. -5MS on a hypermobile champ is huuuuuge and fix her forever. Sure if you hit everything on her kit maybe in a year she will be truly numerical bad. Instead of fixing the issue is ofc a waaay better approach. Oh comparing varus to irelia now. Basically the same champion. Irelia throws her E around permanently to harass people like varus does amirite. It's a nerf to her midlane presence mostly where she NEEDS to hit E to have kill pressure but that was not my point which you would know if you were able to read. Midlane isn't the only lane in league of legends.
: Weird cause I see her at a 50.78% win rate. Which is 24/47 for her position. Not even top tier. Why do people just spout bullshit on these boards?
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TFpkQPpg,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2019-06-04T21:09:14.534+0000) > > Weird cause I see her at a 50.78% win rate. Which is 24/47 for her position. Not even top tier. > > Why do people just spout bullshit on these boards? Idk maybe because you deliberately look at sources that fit your narrative? u.gg diamond + has her at 52 and 11% pickrate. master+ near 54% Lolalitycs showed 58% dunno why
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: It’s almost like riot just throws random shit at the wall to see what happens. They are talking about nerfing Irelia AGAIN. This time it’s her base mr. I don’t even play Irelia and I feel bad for her mains. The problem is HEALING, sustain is just took goo right now. Tahm has sustain, Irelia has sustain, aatrox has sustain, urgot has sustain, every fucking champion has some kind of sustain. This would be a problem if there was a counter to it but there isn’t. Play a tank and build thorn main against and aatrox, he will still heal through everything. If sustain is needed then things will be better
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JlJbQemw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-05T02:29:47.794+0000) > > It’s almost like riot just throws random shit at the wall to see what happens. They are talking about nerfing Irelia AGAIN. This time it’s her base mr. I don’t even play Irelia and I feel bad for her mains. The problem is HEALING, sustain is just took goo right now. Tahm has sustain, Irelia has sustain, aatrox has sustain, urgot has sustain, every fucking champion has some kind of sustain. This would be a problem if there was a counter to it but there isn’t. Play a tank and build thorn main against and aatrox, he will still heal through everything. If sustain is needed then things will be better Wait what. Why would anyone nerf irelias MR!? Irelia needs her passive nerfed considerably for the early game she legit rightclicks pretty much every toplaner to death except jax. What the actual fuck. Ah yeah riot doesn't give a fuck about toplane they just want her gone from midlane so mage players stop complaining and toplaners can go eat a dick.
: > [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PlE6H2zs,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-04T12:00:52.303+0000) > > Could you post some links to vods where that happened in HIS MAIN ELO, not dia and lower? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGlVJFwrQBM here is a quinn game where he goes even into a quinn otp on his main account https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdCdFfcq7bc here is xblotter vs fogged too the concepts of beating those champions is fairly easy to understand you just have to understand your champ and have a basic knowledge of what the other champ does good and does bad
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PlE6H2zs,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-04T12:24:59.042+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGlVJFwrQBM here is a quinn game where he goes even into a quinn otp on his main account > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdCdFfcq7bc here is xblotter vs fogged too > > the concepts of beating those champions is fairly easy to understand > you just have to understand your champ and have a basic knowledge of what the other champ does good and does bad Lmao. Watched that clip for thirty seconds and he already got a gank. Man i wonder how he manages to win that matchup x) I fuckin knew before i clicked on that link this video will show us fogged getting early jungler help.
: I tihnk i may quite playing toplane honesly. This role suck
Well riot wants this game to be a team game unless you are a toplaner then you are only allowed to contribute to your team every 6 minutes. The way to play toplane is ignore the lane and play a second jungler. Trust me it works. Just walk down botlane dive them kill them. Walk mid. Go into the enemy jungle. Or just do what smart people do quit toplane, wait for more and more people to get autofilled and complain about toplane and maybe riot does something. But so far toplane is the lane where every non functioning shitchamp gets thrown into. Actual toplaners get nerfed out of the role. Nothing is done about the counterpick meta or the pick irelia and win meta. Or anything that happens top. Toplane is locked in a 1v2 every game, while not being able to contribute to the game while having shitty items that are only good if you snowball while having to deal with ranged>melee and so much shit too much for me to write down currently. Scaling champions get their lategame nerfed like camille who is dogshit useless outside of a few picks she beats. Like jax who is only good as a counterpick anymore. While champs like renekton or riven can run around win most melee matchups and also outscale them. It's insanity.
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