: How is it unfair? Every other ability that gives large areas of vision like Ashe and Quinn reveal everything including the bushes. Why should Lux's be different? Just because it can also do damage? As I mentioned in the above video, you used to be able to play safe and put your E in river to see enemies in each bush, but now you're going to have to walk closer and E only one of them at a time. That means you're going to either have to face check or waste even more mana just to know you're safe. And by doing that you're missing out on using your E for damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Sanguiphilia,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GuYLmdQN,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-25T20:06:58.039+0000) > > How is it unfair? Every other ability that gives large areas of vision like Ashe and Quinn reveal everything including the bushes. Why should Lux's be different? Just because it can also do damage? As I mentioned in the above video, you used to be able to play safe and put your E in river to see enemies in each bush, but now you're going to have to walk closer and E only one of them at a time. That means you're going to either have to face check or waste even more mana just to know you're safe. And by doing that you're missing out on using your E for damage. AoE damage with great AP scaling, long cast range, good cc, especially she can keep vision up to 5 sec in every 8 sec at lvl 9 without cdr which makes just 2 sec she is unable to provide vision. About {{champion:22}} and {{champion:133}} ; I don't think their visions are balanced too {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: The negative impact of the changes to Lux's E in 10.2
I'm so glad they fixed this unfair bug, {{champion:99}} has to place her E into bushes to reveal them just like {{item:3340}} now.
: Can we make it so attack speed slows work against master Yi during ult please?
{{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} I think {{champion:245}} is more disgusting to play against than {{champion:11}} in currently meta. Also, it is funny to see a D4 player complaining about Yi.
: How is Yuumi e in ARURF or any URF for that matter fair?
Why do you crying so seriously? ARURF is stupid game mode after all without any balance. I loved to play {{champion:350}} so much until patch 9.24 and sadly these changes are ruined all good Yuumi players. She's only good in low elos because you can't play actively against good players and she has worst slow(cc) duration compare to other supports and her heal stack removed which is so horrible for bad situations. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Kai Guy (NA)
: Oh? Invokers not maxing Wex First and autoing folks anymore? You cant Dodge Aphelious Qs and Rs?
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KEJArNAF,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-14T10:54:37.295+0000) > > Oh? Invokers not maxing Wex First and autoing folks anymore? > > You cant Dodge Aphelious Qs and Rs? Invoker's auto attack damage pretty low, he fully relies on spells to make damage and he needs Aghanim's Scepter to get online which reduces his cooldown and mana cost of spells. Apelios's Q and R have very long range and wide hitbox from the start but Invoker increases his skill range by levelling his 3 spells in time.
SrGAnD (EUNE)
: Has Aphelios ruined leauge for you?
Invoker much more complex and gives you a lot chance to dodge his skill shots but Aphelios is right click champion so there is no way to dodge his abilities and he has a very overloaded kit for every kind of situations which leaves you no counterplay.
: The most toxic part of Yi's kit is his 60% damage reduction RANK 1 W
Wow, a {{champion:254}} main complaining about {{champion:11}} that's so ridiculous... And you suppose to be Master rank in NA. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
: Evelynn Ult Changes.
{{champion:28}} is fine, she actually needs a nerf to her empowered E damage.
: Diana is so broken...
Conqueror so powerful especially for champions which scales AP and it goes so well to {{champion:131}} just like {{champion:69}} even {{champion:55}} abusing Conqueror in this meta.
Garson211 (EUNE)
: There is only one solution. Nerfs. Dont buff anything for next 10 patch only nerfs. So what Kalista is unplayable now?Nerf other adc till she will be ok choice. So what they nerf for example Kaisa when overbuff Varus in same time?They swap one Op for next one. Just nerf everyone till you get rid of 30%dmg from game. I cant understand this "we nerf this but dont worry guys,you can abuse now this champ because we buff it "
> [{quoted}](name=Garson211,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTGxEeQT,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2020-01-12T18:09:06.444+0000) > > There is only one solution. > Nerfs. > Dont buff anything for next 10 patch only nerfs. > So what Kalista is unplayable now?Nerf other adc till she will be ok choice. So what they nerf for example Kaisa when overbuff Varus in same time?They swap one Op for next one. > Just nerf everyone till you get rid of 30%dmg from game. > I cant understand this "we nerf this but dont worry guys,you can abuse now this champ because we buff it " What about {{champion:350}} ? {{sticker:sg-janna}}
OKIDJ (NA)
: {{champion:84}} {{champion:523}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:8}}
> [{quoted}](name=OKIDJ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTGxEeQT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-12T04:50:27.264+0000) > > {{champion:84}} {{champion:523}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:517}} isn't broken anymore and {{champion:498}} have so weak early game You forget {{champion:105}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:35}}
: So, I've played against Caitlyn
{{sticker:sg-kiko}} As {{champion:28}}, you should afraid of {{champion:64}}{{champion:107}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:421}}{{champion:40}} not {{champion:51}}.
Indo85 (EUW)
: Kindred
Wolf and Lamb should be more interactive with each other because Wolf is almost non-exist and it doesn't feels like playing 2 characters just a game turns around Lamb. Ok, {{champion:203}} is very good in pro scene with currently design but unfortunately it doesn't reflect their true lore.
Wolity (EUW)
: Zed , since the jungle is behind he need to help him get ahead. Its a team game, zed clearly doesnt underatand how the game works and he is mad because of that. Like in low elo , adcs sometimes getting mad because support leaving them to roam or ward...
> [{quoted}](name=Wolity,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jfWaXB5W,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-01T14:57:33.054+0000) > > Zed , since the jungle is behind he need to help him get ahead. Its a team game, zed clearly doesnt underatand how the game works and he is mad because of that. > > Like in low elo , adcs sometimes getting mad because support leaving them to roam or ward... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Oh, you can't even imagine how many games I've lost a winning lane as an ADC just because supports went to roam in worst times.
: forgive my (i think) low effort (not jerkish rant here)yasuo ultimate suggestion but what if...
Windwall shouldn't block if you inside it because so many players abusing this, especially to Baron.
: What's the counterplay to Aphelios?
Just ban {{champion:523}} , I think he has one of highest ban rate LoL ever had. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/by-banrate
Comentários de Rioters
: Shaco , the nerfs
You are not even good on {{champion:35}} with 4.1 / 5.5 / 8.9 kda ratios yet you have 53% wr... {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Oh sorry, you are playing him as support.
: Lulu S rank... what am I doing wrong??
Find a fiercely ADC! {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Tryndamere solo pentakill share.
Welldone! {{sticker:poppy-wink}} I think jealous players will dislike your post.
: > [{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EI2BamxX,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-02T11:37:23.997+0000) > > has soooo much range that I'm not even safe under tower. Senna was a mistake tbh. Needs to be removed.
> [{quoted}](name=metroman450,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EI2BamxX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-02T11:53:35.886+0000) > > Senna was a mistake tbh. Needs to be removed. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Yup, I would've never guessed that I will be thankful to {{champion:412}} for keeping a champion like {{champion:235}} in the lantern.
: League just pulling out all the stops to make this a non-enjoyable game.
{{champion:53}} is nothing behind champions like {{champion:235}} {{champion:523}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:69}} Most of early game champions don't even fall in late game anymore especially {{champion:51}} and {{champion:64}} And some of late game champions are becoming crazy with single item like {{champion:69}} {{champion:13}} after {{item:3070}}
: Mages are underpowered. Nerf assassins and bruisers!.
{{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Would you sacrifice from your late game item stats for better or quicker early-mid game items as a mage?
: Morde and Ekko still unerfed
_Lamb: "What do all stories have in common, dear Wolf?" Wolf: "They end."_
: So when does a gold 3 dual ADC bot lose to an enemy support duo?
I had a same match up like yours against Maokai and Leona, duo support really so scary in the early game. It is not your Bot lane's fault especially Thresh able to scale very well on adc items. I was like how this happened in this match... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/match/euw/4335512618#participant1
: the adc needs the support to help them look good.
In Dota 2, support players always sacrifice themselves for keeping their carry alive or let them get kills but in LoL they are so selfish which some of them only cares about their kda and always stays back with full hp while ADC has to farm 1v2 which is so frustrating and then they blame how bad ADC is but in the truth, these selfish supports haven't done anything useful in the lane and ADC never got the chance of showing skills so in my opinion better support wins botlane with creating right moments for letting ADC shine. "Edited some pronounce"
Elohaven (NA)
: From 55% winrate to 47% | Unescapable loss streak
Pick or match with the broken champions like {{champion:35}} {{champion:523}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:13}} etc. who can carry 1v9 or just dodge if you have bad matchups to this kind of champions. Sadly S10 more like meta season instead of skill.
: > I'm asking them to speak English politely so if they reject this, I'm just going to mute them for not getting annoyed by their regional language. And we wonder why we british are considered arrogant... Just to point German is the most commonly spoken language in western Europe.
> [{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9QNPUW2X,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-27T21:32:26.704+0000) > > And we wonder why we british are considered arrogant... > > Just to point German is the most commonly spoken language in western Europe. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} True, French and Deutsch most used languages in EUW. I didn't know they were seeing us arrogant. :D
Rewt (NA)
: How do Europeans deal with the Language barrier in league
I'm asking them to speak English politely so if they reject this, I'm just going to mute them for not getting annoyed by their regional language. I saw Italian, Spanish, French, German, Czech, Dutch, Turkish, some North Africa countries in EUW, a few players from UK but majority is French as I see and they don't know English so well.
: So why is aphelios doing more damage than early game draven?
He can easily 1v9 in late game and strangely his early game very powerful too. Really disgusting champion, I don't know why Riot released such wanna be Invoker champion but Aphelios so disgusting and he isn't require as much skill as Invoker's gameplay... Not even Shen able to withstand his aoe guns. He has no counterplay at the moment or tell me how to play against this kind of broken champion. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/match/euw/4338988751#participant4
ErebusHD (NA)
: Attitude on christmas
It is about culture, knowledge, respecting to values. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow-needs4.webp Most of these people unable to reach required step for esteem.
Colte (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sylaelque,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J5bJucs2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-24T23:28:42.639+0000) > > You should see {{champion:523}} , he is like Caitlyn in the early and have Sivir's wave clear with his flame weapon, Xayah's cc with the range of Kai'Sa's W with Rifle and Gravity weapon, limited range of Jinx's R with debuffs also places an untargetable turrent which activates after a few seconds so jungler has to get away from its agro, can out duel Xayah, Draven with crazy amount heal and attack speed in close range. shame sivir isn't even half as fun as that guy but i guess it makes sense considering she's an old champion worth only 450 ip
> [{quoted}](name=Colte,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J5bJucs2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-24T23:32:24.098+0000) > > shame sivir isn't even half as fun as that guy but i guess it makes sense considering she's an old champion worth only 450 ip Yes, old champions are remaining so dull and outdated behind heavily overloaded new champions.
Neriticc (EUW)
: “Only Xayah and Kaisa are broken”
You should see {{champion:523}} ; he is like Caitlyn in the early and have Sivir's wave clear with his flame weapon, Xayah's cc with the range of Kai'Sa's W with Rifle and Gravity weapon, limited range of Jinx's R with debuffs also places an untargetable turrent which activates after a few seconds so jungler has to get away from its agro, he can outduels Xayah, Draven with crazy amount of heal and attack speed in close range.
: I mean core of shaco hasnt changed. Before he was an assassian that couldnt oneshot anyone into actually being able to oneshot. Theres so much counterplay to shaco what are you talking about? Once he goes in from invisibility you know he cant escape sure he can use his clone but even then it's not a 50/50 on which one he is because his clone takes more damage so it's very easy to tell them apart
> [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=83ubVvE4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-24T21:16:36.976+0000) > > I mean core of shaco hasnt changed. Before he was an assassian that couldnt oneshot anyone into actually being able to oneshot. Theres so much counterplay to shaco what are you talking about? Once he goes in from invisibility you know he cant escape sure he can use his clone but even then it's not a 50/50 on which one he is because his clone takes more damage so it's very easy to tell them apart He has 6 sec blink cd with blue buff and items, how this is fair? He will just use R then hides into busy with traps then just gets away. I couldn't even catch him as Kai'Sa even my W revealed him, his mobility and cc duration so insane.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sylaelque,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n95qWFi1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-24T20:46:12.849+0000) > > Happens don't worry, mid lane really important for objectives so it will cost map control when the mid laner plays bad or remains too passive. I've found that 99 percent of the mids do nothing but camp for kills. Fairly often, mid will get mad for pushing his lane and getting tower because all they want to do is protect their kda.
> [{quoted}](name=GrenadesAndHamm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n95qWFi1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-24T20:57:20.104+0000) > > I've found that 99 percent of the mids do nothing but camp for kills. Fairly often, mid will get mad for pushing his lane and getting tower because all they want to do is protect their kda. You shouldn't destroy towers too early because it will mix the lanes so let your mid laner enjoy the lead for a bit while you are focusing to other things. :)
: Matchmaking - do they consider objective damage mostly?
Happens don't worry, mid lane really important for objectives so it will cost map control when the mid laner plays bad or remains too passive.
Comentários de Rioters
Lyik (OCE)
: Agreed, longer queue times are a necessary sacrifice to make this game good, plus, they can make the avoid player feature only last a couple of days for a certain person to shorten queue time.
> [{quoted}](name=Lyik,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AE0wJa5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-19T11:26:28.647+0000) > > Agreed, longer queue times are a necessary sacrifice to make this game good, plus, they can make the avoid player feature only last a couple of days for a certain person to shorten queue time. I was posted something about this in euw boards but so many players disagreed unfortunately.
: > [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0pek1HuW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-17T11:07:41.080+0000) > > How the actual fuck does he get hit before Kai'Sa? Like she is by far the best adc in the game. because Kai'sa is a girl champion and beta males like to spend $$$ on girl champions, so she has to stay top tier.
> [{quoted}](name=Fear the Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0pek1HuW,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-17T16:58:09.468+0000) > > because Kai'sa is a girl champion and beta males like to spend $$$ on girl champions, so she has to stay top tier. {{champion:145}} + {{item:3157}} == **~~Kayn~~** Stop crying now okk? She has fine wr and very dependent on support at early also so fun to play because she's actually rewarding outplays.
: Can Kindred get some love
{{champion:203}} very high skill champion and she's one most scary jungle pick for Diamond+. She might seems weird in first but she's really powerful when you learn how to use her mechanics.
: I've learned with hook champions a long time ago that hitboxes are like unicorns; the true nature of them are unknown and will remain that way forever.
> [{quoted}](name=NaughtyWord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H3BmEpPl,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-17T08:53:02.298+0000) > > I've learned with hook champions a long time ago that hitboxes are like unicorns; the true nature of them are unknown and will remain that way forever. This remind me fountain hook at Dota 2. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
: So many people were defending Riot about this
{{champion:14}} 's R has same problem through walls
: Why doesn't my jungler gank?
Most of junglers don't even have any idea about their role so they just ignore this kind of things.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Aphelios nerf confirmed
Pff, this lane parasite {{champion:64}} still not nerfed yet... {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}} https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/match/euw/4325470322#participant8
Truli91 (NA)
: Bronze matched against golds in ranked
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/Truli91#championsData-ranked Lol, really... {{sticker:sg-kiko}} Don't give up! These problems not always occur, I was Bronze 4 after series of losing streak but climbed to Gold 2 in 2 weeks then I tried a few other roles and it went down to Gold 4 so you just need to find your best role. ^^
: Yuumi is just awful now
As {{champion:350}} main those changes really so awful. She doesn't have slow in her Q and now its damage nerfed as well, no additional heal for risky situations, can't hoop out to get passive shield, extremely high cost abilities with long cd without rewarding enough. There is nothing you can do against champions like {{champion:111}} anymore. Feels so unsatisfying to play her right now. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
XzMln (OCE)
: He still applied his passive and dunked you with conqueror up.
> [{quoted}](name=XzMln,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Hsn1N11,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T07:33:38.923+0000) > > He still applied his passive and dunked you with conqueror up. Yup because of Conquerer, no way to gank those disgusting champions who stacks Conquerer in no time they just keep healing up... https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/match/euw/4317319956#participant6
AhernfVy (NA)
: Can I stop being two levels behind while 30 cs up on the enemy jungler?
Tax mid and top lanes especially if you remain solo after ganking. Also ban this lane parasite {{champion:64}} for the first good thing to your team. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Yuumi's laning phase is awfully weak, even more so after support item changes
Riot took away her claws with removing her slow... {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Just a question, are you killing your krugs? As they are the best non buff exp in the game other than gromp. You HAVE to protect Gromp, Krugs and raptors. Other than your buffs. Ward up. Its not exp that sucks. Its the fact that SPECIFIC champions are good. {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:72}} (With pillar) {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:77}} Now a days you HAVE to play things that YOU can 1v1 enemy junglers. {{champion:154}} {{champion:33}} (some situations.) {{champion:28}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:104}} (kind of) {{champion:9}} {{champion:32}} things like this YOU CANNOT play anymore. At all. Period. You're too exp and gold dependant. You at level 1. NEED to be able to fight an enemy jungler and win. That's this meta for the junglers. Staying IN their jungle. Basically not ganking unless its **100%** FOR SURE. A kill. Or a flash for a guaranteed kill next time. It's "unfortunate" but its the new meta. {{champion:427}} Unless your this. Then you know what? You can do whatever the fuck you want cause you'll just take it anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Support Position,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E93n0qrF,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-11-24T19:43:48.100+0000) > > Just a question, are you killing your krugs? As they are the best non buff exp in the game other than gromp. > > You HAVE to protect Gromp, Krugs and raptors. Other than your buffs. Ward up. Its not exp that sucks. Its the fact that SPECIFIC champions are good. > > {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:72}} (With pillar) {{champion:23}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:77}} > > Now a days you HAVE to play things that YOU can 1v1 enemy junglers. > > {{champion:154}} {{champion:33}} (some situations.) {{champion:28}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:104}} (kind of) {{champion:9}} {{champion:32}} things like this YOU CANNOT play anymore. At all. Period. You're too exp and gold dependant. You at level 1. NEED to be able to fight an enemy jungler and win. > > That's this meta for the junglers. Staying IN their jungle. Basically not ganking unless its **100%** FOR SURE. A kill. Or a flash for a guaranteed kill next time. It's "unfortunate" but its the new meta. > > {{champion:427}} Unless your this. Then you know what? You can do whatever the fuck you want cause you'll just take it anyway. I'm main {{champion:28}} and she can't do anything anymore which I climbed to gold 2 from bronze 4 in 2 weeks. Now, being a late game jungler feels so useless and things have already determined within first 10 min. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
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