: I don't feel like this warrants a bann though there are alot of Dumbasses who play this game and ruins it for the rest of us
> [{quoted}](name=FeministSion,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-28T23:34:21.895+0000) > > I don't feel like this warrants a bann though there are alot of Dumbasses who play this game and ruins it for the rest of us When you know that the people who reported you were getting called out in chat, the enemy team were saying they would report(both games enemy teak said they would report Anivia and Sivir for afking the match), that these people went on to report you and get your a permaban it just makes the system a joke.
: > [{quoted}](name=gordza,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-28T16:51:25.540+0000) > > Seems so, and my chat bans/bans are always like this. It's a shame Riot isn't willing to put more resources into the ban system and actually ID banning people who do this, I don't see why people get bans for responding to trolls, except of course it costs less money for Riot to act in this way. Because they cant give players the power to decide when someone is "trolling". I mean, havent you had teammates suddenly get triggered and go full rage mode calling a teammate an inter, a troll, and said teammate wasnt? I mean, if theyre gonna have rules, they cant let you throw the rules out whenever you decide someone is "trolling". Wouldnt that just be stupid? I can flame whenever i want, as long as I think someone is trolling?? (Ps. I think chat should not even be policed in the first place, so this is purely in the context of already having a policed chat)
> [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-28T23:54:07.367+0000) > > Because they cant give players the power to decide when someone is "trolling". I mean, havent you had teammates suddenly get triggered and go full rage mode calling a teammate an inter, a troll, and said teammate wasnt? I mean, if theyre gonna have rules, they cant let you throw the rules out whenever you decide someone is "trolling". Wouldnt that just be stupid? I can flame whenever i want, as long as I think someone is trolling?? (Ps. I think chat should not even be policed in the first place, so this is purely in the context of already having a policed chat) Sure it shouldn't be up to the players to decide who is trolling, but there is evidence in both games of the players doing so. The sivir repeatedly stated she won't play and will stand in base, the Anivia was repeatedly saying "I'm winning my way" and refusing to actually do anything except farm cs in our jungle. For instance they went 5 mid, our Anivia took the upper mid entrance out of our base and went to krogs as they pushed mid, once mid turret was down and they were at our inhib, she then moved to raptors and continued csing. Everyone on our team was saying Anivia please play with us and she kept saying "you took my cs, im winning my way". My point is the entire reason context is ignored isn't because that's the best way to police the game, it's because it would cost money to actually properly police games, something which Riot does not want to spend. People all over this sub think those are the rules because it's best for the game which just isn't true, the reason context is ignored is because it costs money to take it into account and actually have a fair ban system.
: > [{quoted}](name=gordza,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-28T16:50:18.737+0000) > > What? You can run down mid, get the occasional kill so you aren't 0/20, say nothing and then report anyone who flames you and get them chat bans. > The system isn't that inane and injudicious. It takes a lot of things into consideration. It's like when people think you can just stay in your base and spam abilities, so as to avoid the LeaverBuster. It doesn't work. And yes, if you're flaming, other people have every right to report you for that. How is toxicity going to solve anything? You can't fight fire with fire and expect to get out unscathed. > Both then went on to report me, if that's not abuse of the system what is? Had you not broken the rules, you wouldn't have gotten punished. So no, this isn't them abusing the system. This is them using it in an appropriate way. ---- > Regarding your second sentance, bots can't really pick up that type of behavior, so it is allowed continuously. It's simply harder to accurately detect. When it comes to dealing with game-related offences, you need to have a bit more information in order to effectively and accurately detect them. ---- > Riot's ban system simply punishes people who suffer the fallout of trolls while never addressing the problem. Just because someone else is breaking the rules doesn't mean you have the right to do the same. Your _job _ isn't to act as a vigilante, but to report those who break the rules and let the system take care of them. > every single justice system in the world takes context into consideration So does Riot's IFS. However, context cannot serve as an excuse for one's toxicity. No amount of explaining can condone negative behaviour.
> [{quoted}](name=KDA Umbra,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-01-28T17:57:57.825+0000) > > > So does Riot's IFS. However, context cannot serve as an excuse for one's toxicity. No amount of explaining can condone negative behaviour. This is a massive contradiction.
: ok so. this chat went from friendly to. hate so fast :(
> [{quoted}](name=Shiroe Okazaki,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-29T00:08:48.193+0000) > > ok so. this chat went from friendly to. hate so fast :( Because league is toxic.
Jo0o (NA)
: So, you fed the trolls?
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-28T16:47:23.389+0000) > > So, you fed the trolls? Seems so, and my chat bans/bans are always like this. It's a shame Riot isn't willing to put more resources into the ban system and actually ID banning people who do this, I don't see why people get bans for responding to trolls, except of course it costs less money for Riot to act in this way.
: > How is this system even remotely fair, the report system in this game is just abused by griefers and trollers constantly. It cannot be abused in any way. Fake/multiple reports hold no value and are redundant. > I don't mind bad players but if someone intentionally griefs other people it shouldn't be allowed. It isn't allowed. That's why it's being punished when detected. However, other people's misbehaviour doesn't excuse your own. You are responsible for what you type, regardless of the situation you're in.
> [{quoted}](name=KDA Umbra,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-28T16:47:08.456+0000) > > **It cannot be abused in any way**. Fake/multiple reports hold no value and are redundant. > > It isn't allowed. That's why it's being punished when detected. However, other people's misbehaviour doesn't excuse your own. You are responsible for what you type, regardless of the situation you're in. What? You can run down mid, get the occasional kill so you aren't 0/20, say nothing and then report anyone who flames you and get them chat bans. It can and absolutely is abused continually. The people who reported me in these games both AFK'd, one of them stood in base and refused to play after 8 minutes, the other ran around our jungle while our turrets and base was being destroyed. Both then went on to report me, if that's not abuse of the system what is? Edit: Regarding your second sentance, bots can't really pick up that type of behavior, so it is allowed continuously. Riot's ban system simply punishes people who suffer the fallout of trolls while never addressing the problem. And yes, other people's misbehavior should excuse yours, every single justice system in the world takes context into consideration.
rujitra (NA)
: You consistently harassed and belittled teammates in both of these games. Your 14 day ban was the final warning your behavior was unacceptable and you chose to ignore that.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E2coMyW3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-28T16:36:24.501+0000) > > You consistently harassed and belittled teammates in both of these games. Your 14 day ban was the final warning your behavior was unacceptable and you chose to ignore that. The two people I was arguing with both AFK'd the game and purposefully griefed the entire team, the only people I "belittled" were people who went out of there way to lose the game. I don't mind bad players but if someone intentionally griefs other people it shouldn't be allowed. Reports from people who intentionally griefed a game should not be taken into consideration when handing out bans.
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: Only 20 deaths in 18 minutes? Fuck man can I trade you my shit teams for your shit teams? I've had games where the score was 12 to 40 at 20 minutes and I'm sitting there as the 4/2/6 ADC dying a little inside when my team won't just ff.
> [{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IALKY5Qy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-07T18:33:36.778+0000) > > Only 20 deaths in 18 minutes? Fuck man can I trade you my shit teams for your shit teams? I've had games where the score was 12 to 40 at 20 minutes and I'm sitting there as the 4/2/6 ADC dying a little inside when my team won't just ff. That was botlane, they were something like 1/8/1 and 1/12/1 @ 19 mins.
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Speeedy (NA)
: i heard a rumor a while ago it allows pros to duo bot/support since they need synergy, so as much as you want it to go I think its here to stay
> [{quoted}](name=RacerX4114,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q6btE6t8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-20T17:17:34.680+0000) > > i heard a rumor a while ago it allows pros to duo bot/support since they need synergy, so as much as you want it to go I think its here to stay But we have flex now, that's what I don't understand...
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