: that's not banter tho. banter doesn't contain toxicity
Banter is also 100% impossible when strangers first meet. A prerequisite to banter is a friendly rapport. If they want a game that is structurally built like League, to be toxicity free, they should disable the chat system. Pings are more than enough to communicate for strategy ... the only time someone has time to type in a game is during a gray screen - and a gray screen is too random to be used as a place for strategy or tactics.
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Zuxly (NA)
: I need 2RP rito pls
he gave teemo man boobs and a muffin top .... give the dude 1000RP ... Essence of Teemo
: so i got permabanned for this... gg
Eh doesnt seem all that bad. How long ago did you get your 14 day ban? Spoke with support long ago, and was told that you drop down a tier every 3 months of good behavior - and this has always been the case for me. So I am assuming you got your 14 day ban within the last 3 months?
: >Password! = Medium size botnet About 35 minutes P455w0rD! = Medium size botnet About 6 days Source on that? The only actual importance is whether or not both are an option. Besides, of course, "Password!" falling under a dictionary definition attack, meaning it's going down in a matter of seconds. **Even the guy who made that original requirement** is looking back on it and going "well, fuck, that was a stupid-ass mistake". That should be your *second* clue that it's pointless as hell. >You do realize that you have no idea what you are talking about? In your example you compare a 9 character password with a 22 character password ... is this a joke? Of coarse 19 characters is more secure than 9. Yeah. And those 19 characters are far easier to remember as a human than those 9. Remembering "Oh I used that quote from Kindred" is easier than "how the fuck did I spell Kindred for this password again?". The reason it's more effective than pointless complexity is because *it's far easier to create a long password if you can remember the damn thing*.
Source from prior message: http://password-checker.online-domain-tools.com/ > Yeah. And those 19 characters are far easier to remember as a human than those 9. Remembering "Oh I used that quote from Kindred" is easier than "how the fuck did I spell Kindred for this password again?". The reason it's more effective than pointless complexity is because it's far easier to create a long password if you can remember the damn thing. This is straight opinion - I create all my passwords using numbers for specific letters and tying 3 languages together - I have no issues whatsoever remembering my passwords ... then again, I do not allow my browser to store my password - I type it in every time. example: ( 2 languages ) Qi4n9daP4$5worD! - (First Word is Simplified Chinese for Strong) ( second word is English for Password) This password will take: Medium size botnet About 143 billion years To each their own in password creation - The fact still remains, when you enter special characters / numbers / capital letters / lower case letter requirements into a password of 10 characters or more, you create a more secure password. (Given the length of the password stays the same in both examples). - This is even more true when you are using legacy software that is using an 8bit string cap.
: >Riot could take steps such as requiring 10 characters with at least 2 numbers / 1 capital letter / 1 lower case letter and 1 special character You do realize that **EVERYTHING** besides the "10 character" part means absolutely nothing, right? Complexity makes it harder for humans to remember while doing nothing to prevent computers from cracking it. Enforcing complexity actually *reduces* the amount of time it takes, since it reduces the number of possibilities (So, with your requirements, it'd mean a brute force program wouldn't have to check anything without two numbers, a special character, and both a lower case and a capital letter). The only two things that matter for password security (besides not falling under a common list) are **length** and **possible complexity**. Me replacing an "a" with an "@" or a "4" does nothing to prevent it from being cracked. It might add a few hours at best, but that depends on what character they start with. What matters more is the fact that it's *possible* it's an @ or a 4 instead of an a, and how many characters long it is. "k1nd3D!" is far, far less secure than "EveryLifeEndsWithUs", but it's also harder to remember. The latter is easier to remember, but has _3.09*10^37_ possible combinations. That's 3 with **37** zeroes after it. You know how many the first one has? 64,847,759,419,264. 6 with only 13 trailing digits. [Here's the relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/936/). tl;dr: Length and possible complexity are far more useful than enforcing stupid rules that only piss off end users.
You do realize that you have no idea what you are talking about? In your example you compare a 9 character password with a 22 character password ... is this a joke? Of coarse 19 characters is more secure than 9. A much more fair comparison would be to use 2 passwords of the same length, one with complexity and one without ... P455w0rD! is much much more secure than Password! - yet they have the same overall meaning to the user, and the same length. Password! = Medium size botnet About 35 minutes P455w0rD! = Medium size botnet About 6 days It took the botnet 247x longer to figure out the password with at least 1 upper / 1 lower / 2 numbers / 1 special character than it did the "simple password" One thing you haven't considered, because you probably don't know - many databases / OS's were written poorly, and break everything down into 8 character strings. IE you could have your password: EveryLifeEndsWithUs - it is not actually stored as a 19 character password ... it is stored as 2x8 + 3 ... meaning a brute force machine need only solve (2) 8 character password strings + a 3rd password string containing 3 characters. By adding capitals and special characters, the cracker no longer knows which 8 character string the special character / number / uppercase is in ... making it multitudes harder to crack. These youngins not knowing their shit ~ killing me small fry.
Ęsdeath (EUW)
: This honestly makes me wonder if our accounts are that really secure. It's hilarious how YOU are responsible for keeping your account safe, when they don't implement anything to tightly secure it (2FA, for example). If someone somehow managed to brute-force my account or even hack it, I would be the one in charge of keeping it safe. Support would blame me and walk away from it. It's genuinely hilarious, I gotta tell you.
While 2FA is quite secure, Riot could take steps such as requiring 10 characters with at least 2 numbers / 1 capital letter / 1 lower case letter and 1 special character. The brute force on that would be near 1000 years at current computer power.
Ulanopo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g53JK9pg,comment-id=00080008,timestamp=2019-11-15T23:12:11.642+0000) > > How is "I think Yuumi is too safe and displacements should knock her off her ally" nothing but an unconstructive complaint? It's not entirely unconstructive, but it's still probably better for GD than Gameplay. Thing is, Gameplay should be about discussions, GD should be about conversations. That might seem like a fine distinction, but I think it's an important one. My friends and I sit around griping about League all the time. None of those conversations would be fit for Gameplay. The OP's whole post was: >Riot we need more ways to knock Yummi off her Ally > >If the target is knocked up/back then she needs to be removed from that target. Its stupid how safe she is. If you go look at the [proposed guidelines for Gameplay](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/XPgk5MhA-proposed-rules-update-to-gameplay-sub-board-feedback-wanted), the OP's post hits a couple of triggers: > DO CONSIDER HOW THE READER IS INTENDED TO FEEL OR RESPOND. > Posts that encourage thoughtful discussion are preferred. While you may be angry or frustrated, Gameplay is not really the Board for complaining. . > DO LEAVE ROOM FOR DISAGREEMENT > The Boards are for sharing ideas and discussion. Dealing in absolutes prevents those things. Calling for a champion to be gutted generally ends all conversation. Likewise, refusing to see how someone else could have a different - even contradictory - opinion or perspective closes off possibilities. . > DO DISCUSS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF CHAMPIONS, MATCHUPS, ITEMS, AND BUILDS > Within reason, of course. It’s one thing to say, “I feel Yasuo has too many tools and is generally too safe once you’ve mastered him, with Windwall being an excellent example of this”. It’s quite another to say, “Windwall is bull#$*&!” Basically, the OP said, "they should nerf the defining characteristic of a champion because I don't like it." Lots of things are unpleasant to have to face. As an ARAM player i think Yi and Fiddle are hot garbage, but you won't see me making Gameplay posts demanding a nerf. If I were going to do it, I would take the time to make my case about why those champions are a problem, especially in that format, and explore ways to remove some of the pain of playing against them, while retaining their flavor. An example of this would be something that happened to me recently: "Having Syndra be able to neutralize my ult as Annie with a basic ability feels awful. You could either have Tibbers not be a target or you could make Tibbers do enrage damage to Syndra while held by her." Neither of those suggestions would change Syndra in any meaningful way. They would simply lessen a pain point for the matchup. As for the OP, I challenge the basic premise. What does "too safe" even mean? One need only look back in this thread to see the following: https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F7gKwrx4%2Fimage.png&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=150 This is also a thing: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/yuumi I feel like the best that could have been said was, "I wish there was more interactivity with Yuumi, but that would have to come with a buff and rework package because of her low win rate", but that wouldn't have been a discussion.
Ulanopo - do you see how asinine this has become? "If you had said the same thing, in another way, it would have been OK. But not everyone thinks like you or the mods ... Diversity comes in many forms, sometimes it is skin color, sometimes it is sexual preference, and holy shit - sometimes it is in difference of opinion / way of articulating an idea. What these boards are becoming is disgusting. While I fully understand the first amendment does not apply to private companies - the concept of freedom speech has been upheld on a societal level for decades. Seeing mods that would disregard peoples ability to freely express themselves is completely disheartening. I surely hope that the mods on the NA server are not from America. At least then I could potentially understand the lack of respect for free expression. If you are from the United States ... it is cringe worthy. There is nothing more disrespectful than to rape someone of their freedom of expression. I have come to realize in the past month how sad this company has become, and more importantly, how poor the leadership of this community has gotten.
: Because it's physically impossible for us to do so. The tools we have don't allow it, and we don't have the indepth ability to change that.
As a database admin - If Riot cannot grant you ability to move topics around... then Riot needs to fire its programming staff and hire me as a consultant. I could have that shit set up and granted within 5 minutes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilk Rycerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g53JK9pg,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-11-15T20:19:44.554+0000) > > Per your removal message: > ##be generally constructive in nature. > This would include builds, matchups, tactics and the like. > ##Posts that are largely complaining should be directed to either RANT or General Discussion. > > Emphasis added to the relevant parts. > > While there may have been discussion happening in the comments, the main post itself did not meet those qualifications. You are welcome to either re-post your exact content in **General Discussion**, which does not have those requirements, or you can expand on your original post, and re-post to Gameplay. Actually the post in question did have constructive elements in it. I guess you allow other moderators to post rants (see post about Clash and Dynamic que) but not others in a similar vein.
You are trying to explain western concepts of freedom of speech to a chinese company. Its a losing battle.
BBKong (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ýisus,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=TKltWgEG,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-11-10T11:24:27.017+0000) > > These boards are straight out of Orwells 1984. > > First it was - No racism ... ok fine understandable. > Then it was ... no arguing or fighting with each other... ok fine... > Now its ... Nothing I dont agree with because it is "Low Effort"............... I think the boards are bullshit sometimes but this is a HUUUUUUUUUGE stretch dude. You also point out "No racism" in a way that implies the rule was unnecessary hahaha
> You also point out "No racism" in a way that implies the rule was unnecessary hahaha I'm not seeing it, I stated it was an understandable rule. Some food for thought - League is 1 of the few games I have ever experienced racist commentary in. League is also the only game I have ever seen where "racism" is made into such a thing. Played Everquest since 2001 .... Can't think of a time when I ever heard a racist comment in the general chats ... Maybe it is just generational though? The average Everquest player is 40+ ... the average LoL player is 15. So maybe millennials are just far more racist than their generation X counterparts?
IPERFECTO (EUW)
: Youtube just went even lower to the bottom with their shit...
While I understand what you are saying - and you are 100% correct when it comes to truly illegal activity. If you read YouTubes ToS - there is some interesting wording in it. "YouTube may, in its sole discretion, modify or revise these Terms of Service and policies at any time, and you agree to be bound by such modifications or revisions. Nothing in these Terms of Service shall be deemed to confer any third-party rights or benefits." You have already effectively agreed to ANY term change that Google makes, before knowing what that term change is. This is not illegal in any way. When you speak to "foreseeable vs unforeseeable" - they are actually covered as spamming is against their ToS... But even if that wasn't the case ... consider the paragraph aforementioned: > WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, GOOGLE, AND GOOGLE’S SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST PROFITS, REVENUES, OR DATA, FINANCIAL LOSSES OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES. > "Liability for our Services > WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, GOOGLE, AND GOOGLE’S SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST PROFITS, REVENUES, OR DATA, FINANCIAL LOSSES OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES. > > TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THE TOTAL LIABILITY OF GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, FOR ANY CLAIMS UNDER THESE TERMS, INCLUDING FOR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES, IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT YOU PAID US TO USE THE SERVICES (OR, IF WE CHOOSE, TO SUPPLYING YOU THE SERVICES AGAIN). IE - Google is saying everything you have uploaded has 0 value other than the value you have paid us. While I understand your frustration here, I would be frustrated too... What they have done here is industry standard for these giant tech's. They have written their completely in their favor. They could literally delete your account and send you a message that says "Because we just don't like your name" ... and you, as a free user, can do absolutely nothing about it. And even if you did try to sue them. They will send so many discovery request your way, that a team of 10 lawyers would be working a lifetime just to make it to the first day of trial. I feel truly bad for everyone who lost data / pictures ... because those could be dead parents / baby pictures and so on. We as consumers need to take note to what we accept in terms of service. If we collectively say no - Google will re-write its terms. (Sadly, this will not happen though ... because people innately like to see other people do badly. Which is so sad). Just consider these boards ... how often have you seen someone talk about getting banned and commented that they deserved it? Realistically ... every one of us has been toxic as fuck at one point or another .... we just hit that moment of pissed the fuck off ... yet instead of showing sympathy, and saying ... I get it ... I have been there too .... we comment with some bullshit at how they deserve to be banned for saying something stupid like "You're Trash" Humans relish in their counterparts agony...
: Why are gameplay mods deleting threads about gameplay
These boards are straight out of Orwells 1984. First it was - No racism ... ok fine understandable. Then it was ... no arguing or fighting with each other... ok fine... Now its ... Nothing I dont agree with because it is "Low Effort"...............
: Although there are a lot of crafty things in the ToU and EULAs...I'm decently sure that there's probably a way to push a class action lawsuit over this one, so Google/Youtube should *probably* cut the shit. This isn't something as simple as "you violated the ToU" because these comments are not profane, nor are they useless as Markiplier *literally asked for them* during the livestream. The automated system flagged them as spam, and the people reviewing them, for whatever reason, are upholding the bans as if they were not *specifically asked for*, upon reviewing these appeals. Not only that...in the case of the guy whose appeal was granted, then immediately revoked, it shows they're deliberately blanketing *everyone* involved, not just those who'd originally be denied. And ***NONE OF THIS*** #NOT A DAMN THING OF IT Is being shown by google/youtube on *where* their ToU/EULA was violated, so there's effectively ***NO EVIDENCE AT ALL*** why these bans were founded in this first place - the only link is between the spam emotes *specifically asked for* during a Markiplier livestream, and the subsequent blanket banning of all his followers. This means one of two things: #EITHER - They're specifically targeting Markiplier through his fan base, for some reason. #OR - They're specifically avoiding any and all context until they draft a new ToU rule that they can subsequently apply this to, and holding out on everyone until it's finished. Fortunately...if you're smart, you can actually pull up the ToU/EULA, and save a copy of the current one in effect as of *now*, so if they draft a new one, that shit's not gonna fly in a court of law. As there is no documentation to reference concerning *why* these appeals are being upheld, and no documentation to reference why the fuck they were given in the first place, there's pretty much no feasible reason this should be a thing. ***ESPECIALLY*** their ***ENITRE ACCOUNT***.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pww2bFaE,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-11-10T01:25:51.681+0000) > > Although there are a lot of crafty things in the ToU and EULAs...I'm decently sure that there's probably a way to push a class action lawsuit over this one, so Google/Youtube should *probably* cut the shit. > > This isn't something as simple as "you violated the ToU" because these comments are not profane, nor are they useless as Markiplier *literally asked for them* during the livestream. The automated system flagged them as spam, and the people reviewing them, for whatever reason, are upholding the bans as if they were not *specifically asked for*, upon reviewing these appeals. Not only that...in the case of the guy whose appeal was granted, then immediately revoked, it shows they're deliberately blanketing *everyone* involved, not just those who'd originally be denied. > > And ***NONE OF THIS*** > > #NOT A DAMN THING OF IT > > Is being shown by google/youtube on *where* their ToU/EULA was violated, so there's effectively ***NO EVIDENCE AT ALL*** why these bans were founded in this first place - the only link is between the spam emotes *specifically asked for* during a Markiplier livestream, and the subsequent blanket banning of all his followers. This means one of two things: > > #EITHER > > - They're specifically targeting Markiplier through his fan base, for some reason. > > #OR > > - They're specifically avoiding any and all context until they draft a new ToU rule that they can subsequently apply this to, and holding out on everyone until it's finished. > > Fortunately...if you're smart, you can actually pull up the ToU/EULA, and save a copy of the current one in effect as of *now*, so if they draft a new one, that shit's not gonna fly in a court of law. As there is no documentation to reference concerning *why* these appeals are being upheld, and no documentation to reference why the fuck they were given in the first place, there's pretty much no feasible reason this should be a thing. ***ESPECIALLY*** their ***ENITRE ACCOUNT***. Except nearly all terms have a special notwithstanding term ( including Riot ) - it goes something like this: Notwithstanding anything to the contrary, _____ has the right to modify these terms, at any time, without notice. OR Notwithstanding anything to the contrary, _____ has sole discretion for terminating service at any time for any reason it so deems fit. Also ... like Riot games again ... These companies all have an arbitration clause - meaning you have already agreed that you cannot sew them.
: I didn't expect URF to be this bad...
just shows the design flaws that many of the newer / reworked champions have. it is what it is.
: Can we stop complaining about Senna?
No one is happy with Riot anymore because Riot isn't even a thing anymore. Everyone was happy with Riot - until Riot became Tencent. At which point League of Legends has went downhill season after season after season. So to correct your statement ... we all loved Riot - but Riot died in 2015 when it sold full ownership to Tencent ... and it started dying in 2011 when it sold majority to Tencent. Just saying.
Comentários de Rioters
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ýisus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0cYUyVLE,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-25T22:06:51.060+0000) > > So far I have gotten the 2 gemstones and that be it. All the rest of it is just ghost stories on the forum from what I have seen? Maybe we are all getting it at different times? Did they bucket release them? If you aren't receiving rewards, then submit a support ticket to Riot. I have personally been receiving all the rewards on 4 accounts and my husband has on his 2 accounts.
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0cYUyVLE,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-25T22:38:13.835+0000) > > If you aren't receiving rewards, then submit a support ticket to Riot. I have personally been receiving all the rewards on 4 accounts and my husband has on his 2 accounts. Will do - do you have to log in every day and play a game every day to receive?
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ýisus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0cYUyVLE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-25T21:54:28.413+0000) > > Yes - as part of the 10 year anniversary I expected Riot to be giving some "above and beyond gifts" since - so far ... for the 10 year I have gotten nothing that I would be willing to spend $0.10 on ... literally (not being sarcastic Riot ... if you want to send me a check for $0.10 you can take all that I have received from the 10 year anniversary up to this post's date and time) - address is on file. > > So to answer your question, yes - I had figured Riot would be giving away some pretty great things for the 10 year anniversary. And being able to pick 1 skin from a selection set does not seem out of left field. > > But alas, I was wrong - so far ... the 10 year anniversary gifts have been ... meh ... and quite misleading in their names. You mean the free Legendary skin, 2 gemstones, masterwork chest, orb with 4 skin shards, free legacy skin, and more that they are giving for free? I don't know how much more you would want from Riot to be honest. They are being quite generous with these gifts given all you have to do is play a game to get them.
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0cYUyVLE,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-25T22:03:32.737+0000) > > You mean the free Legendary skin, 2 gemstones, masterwork chest, orb with 4 skin shards, free legacy skin, and more that they are giving for free? > > I don't know how much more you would want from Riot to be honest. They are being quite generous with these gifts given all you have to do is play a game to get them. So far I have gotten the 2 gemstones and that be it. All the rest of it is just ghost stories on the forum from what I have seen? Maybe we are all getting it at different times? Did they bucket release them?
Thilough (EUW)
: LoL causes my pc to beep and shut down
Run a RAM test. How is your RAM laid out? 4x4 or 8x2? Kind of wondering if your 2nd or 3rd stick isn't bad.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} You don't get the skin As it says, you get CHROMA + ICON No mention of the skin anywhere Do you honestly think riot would give you skin + chroma + icon for ONLY 300 tokens??? Seriously? It's not misleading, you're just assuming things
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0cYUyVLE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-25T06:49:51.309+0000) > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} > > You don't get the skin > As it says, you get CHROMA + ICON > No mention of the skin anywhere > > Do you honestly think riot would give you skin + chroma + icon for ONLY 300 tokens??? Seriously? > > It's not misleading, you're just assuming things Yes - as part of the 10 year anniversary I expected Riot to be giving some "above and beyond gifts" since - so far ... for the 10 year I have gotten nothing that I would be willing to spend $0.10 on ... literally (not being sarcastic Riot ... if you want to send me a check for $0.10 you can take all that I have received from the 10 year anniversary up to this post's date and time) - address is on file. So to answer your question, yes - I had figured Riot would be giving away some pretty great things for the 10 year anniversary. And being able to pick 1 skin from a selection set does not seem out of left field. But alas, I was wrong - so far ... the 10 year anniversary gifts have been ... meh ... and quite misleading in their names.
Comentários de Rioters
: A petition to completely remove chat from League of Legends
I like how they say "The 80% who don't get in trouble for chat." - I wish Riot would start adding an indicator to peoples names who have gotten a chat ban. I have a strong feeling that damn near 80 - 85% of all players have received a chat ban at some point.
: Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the Anniversary Gifts Riot is giving us?
I never got any annie skin - nor did I get any of the shards you are talking about. Only got some lame Icon. How do I get the rest of the prizes?
: Chat policies and Riot sexual harassment are two different issues. If you are truly upset about their sexual harassment, boycott the game. And going "they don't let me flame, darn communist China" is neither logical or effective. I'm doubtful China doesn't let you make fun of each other on Facebook. That is more about keeping political dissidents down. Neither are related to chat restrictions. Both are good reasons to boycott the game, sure.
When did I say communist anything? This has nothing to do with China being good or bad ... Hell I played on the Garena server when I lived in Vietnam. China can decide what culture they have, I am just stating that censorship is not common place in American culture, and it should not be applied on the NA server just because this game is a Chinese owned game. I have yet to ever play a game that censors its players like this 1 does. I find it hard to believe that these policies are not related to the host countries culture.
: Part of the rules is to not post low-effort spam? Or at least it should be.
: There's no EULA here - there's the board's Universal Rules. You aren't allowed to make politically charged shitposts, dude.
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse Odd - because there it is. The EULA. Which covers the boards use.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >A potential fix: Moderators who have had their decisions over turned 3X are removed from moderation indefinitely - like a permaban. Maybe moderators should play by the same rules the users are forced to follow? We have supervision from Riot and have had a grand total of less than a half-dozen decisions overturned in the lifetime of the program, so your "solution" would never affect any of us. And, yes, your content was removed for attempting to start a politically charged conversation - in _Gameplay_, no less.
> The Djinn (NA)Herald - 11 days ago We typically don't remove posts protesting mods, as long as it meets two main guidelines: > It is placed on an appropriate board. It is critical without being insulting. As this board (Discuss the Boards) itself is testament to, there are a lot of critical threads that we leave up, because they're not breaking any rules. > Critique away. If I couldn't handle it, I wouldn't still be here. :) Seems I have also followed this Herald's post. I critiqued without insulting. But even when you do this ... I get a "politically charged" ... wowsers.
: Guess what though, even if it WAS censorship by your definition, this is not a safe space where everyone has freedom of speech and can express anything in any way they wish. This is a forum that none of us own, and it has rules to adhere to for participation. If you don't like the rules, you are more than welcome to create your own forum.
This is precisely the point I am making ... I followed the rules. I did not break the EULA; therefore, my post should not have been removed. If there was a EULA term that said "Cannot say anything that a moderator might not like" - I'd agree!
: >The kind that thinks it's pathetic that Riot brings its Chinese (Tencent) social policies of censorship to the NA server. I'm the kind of tilt that believes free speech, so long as it isn't a threat, is completely acceptable. A game not letting you throw slurs at other players has nothing to do with freedom of speech lol
I never even mentioned slurs. Nonetheless, hate speech is free speech. You can find more on this by search the ACLU.
: That's not censorship, that's just removing a spammy "Hurr durr china bad tencent bad" post.
Which is censorship ... removing a post that does not violate any rules - yet is removed because a moderator does not like its content?
Ulanopo (NA)
: >A potential fix: Moderators who have had their decisions over turned 3X are removed from moderation indefinitely - like a permaban. Maybe moderators should play by the same rules the users are forced to follow? We have supervision from Riot and have had a grand total of less than a half-dozen decisions overturned in the lifetime of the program, so your "solution" would never affect any of us. And, yes, your content was removed for attempting to start a politically charged conversation - in _Gameplay_, no less.
Where was the politics involved? Free speech is not a political ideology... Quite confused regarding this. Where was the "politics" - It seems you are extrapolating "politically charged" way past the scope. With your extrapolation ... what isn't "politically charged"? My post in no way had to do with Politics. Please enlighten me Ulanopo. Regarding: > in Gameplay, no less. It would make sense to put it in game play as this is where the action takes place. The speech in question happens while playing the game. It does not happen on the corner or at the bus stop ... it happens in Gameplay. Where would you rather have had this?
Comentários de Rioters
zPOOPz (NA)
: > This is just as bad as calling someone a racial slur in game umm..... > if you could possibly explain otherwise, I'm all ears. sure... here goes.... > I don't care if you have a power outage calling someone a racial slur is a willful act. Having power outage forcing you to afk that is not within your control is not a willful act.
I mean ... while his AFK rant is whatev's .... being called a name by someone else does no damage.
: I Said the n word out of anger and am scared to death of gettin banned
Hopefully this isn't the same account you are scared of losing ... Because ... you are just advertising that you want that ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ýisus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lOffBvEt,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-03-12T00:06:46.845+0000) > > being 20 something with a full-time job is different than having a full-time job ( not 40 hours a week but more like 50+ ) having a wife and a kid to attend to. Now ... do you have a full-time job? or is it only 40 hours a week? That is called part-time in the grown-up world young stuff. sorry but what? a full time job is 40 hours a week. less than that is a part time job. I don't know where in the world you think that working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week isn't considered a full time job
First time I have logged on since this comment ... Most jobs that pay anything over 65k+ a year expect a 10 hour day. Working 8 hours a day will get you nothing but demoted back to a 35k - 40k salary. At least in the industry that my unlucky ass picked in college. So you can compare to whatever state you are in - in my state, a 65k Salary = 112k Salary in Los Angeles. Be well mate.
: wow the Drastic increase in estimated queueueue times has doubled since january
I think people have moved on from League. I used to play around 6 games each night ... now I can see March in my account history page within the client... This game is relative trash since season 5 or 6.
: ok... I have a full time job as well, I don't play often but I still can learn champions. This is shit post of the lowest quality possible. Maybe this isn't the game for you if you cannot learn anything in the vast amount of time you still have available. You still have 2 whole days to play league and then you have a few hours each day. So you are telling me that you have so little time in your life that you cannot even learn the basics then you shouldn't be playing to begin with
being 20 something with a full-time job is different than having a full-time job ( not 40 hours a week but more like 50+ ) having a wife and a kid to attend to. Now ... do you have a full-time job? or is it only 40 hours a week? That is called part-time in the grown-up world young stuff.
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: Oh yeah? Passionate huh, that's a funny word for it. I see a full front page of non-stop complaining for days on end, anything else is drowned out by complaints about fucking Yasuo and conquerer every single god damn day. Even memes and games is just where people post their complaints but frame it as a shitpost so it "fits". Do you think forums should look like this? This community is shit.
> [{quoted}](name=I love cowboys,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Y3REa9E7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-24T09:29:59.370+0000) > > Oh yeah? Passionate huh, that's a funny word for it. > > I see a full front page of non-stop complaining for days on end, anything else is drowned out by complaints about fucking Yasuo and conquerer every single god damn day. Even memes and games are just where people post their complaints but frame it as a shitpost so it "fits". > > Do you think forums should look like this? This community is shit. Maybe the reason the community is like this ... is that Riot does not listen to the community? When a large group is complaining about the same things ... maybe that is an indicator that it needs to be looked at? I mostly feel the community is like this because of Riot bases gameplay on pro players ... even though they make up 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of Leagues Population.
: Why did Riot August feel the Boards community was useless?
He sounds pretty toxic to me ~ maybe Riot should punish him.
kargish (EUW)
: Okay a pro team was warned for "discriminating" females by banning their mains but
"10.2.4 Discrimination and Denigration. Team Members may not offend the dignity or integrity of a country, private person or group of people through contemptuous, discriminatory or denigrating words or actions on account of race, skin color, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, language, religion, political opinion or any other opinion, financial status, birth or any other status, sexual orientation or any other reason." There is no clause stating you cannot discriminate by SEX. Gender and SEX are very different things. GENDER is a feeling, qualitative identity. SEX, on the other hand, is a biological trait. It sounds like Riot and the LCS need to invest in a better contract attorney.
: [Gameplay] URF SPATULA CLUB REWARDS
its pay 2 win - it shouldn't even exist in league.
Comentários de Rioters
: Riot, I think it's time to move on. Or should I say, move forward.
If you want a good MMO - check out Everquest. Has been out nearly 20 years. Best MMO ever made.
: Plat armour looks more like silver armor why
Gold armor looks like bronze ... so i am feeling you.
Aerispie (NA)
: So why didn't i get a penta?
Because you are looking at a 20 second gap which is way too long for a pentakill.
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: That could be a good addition. I think the general number of games (according to what i saw from a riot support person) is about 30-50 games. So potentially this could be a week or a month of games. I have mixed feelings about that however. Because that still leaves the last monthish of the season for being.... as others have said.... "cheated" out of ranked rewards. Especially since near the end of the season it gets highly stressful due to the last push.... and trolls take advantage of the high tension. Maybe for the last month of the ranked season you can still get rewards if you are honor 5 when you get chat restricted and still get the rewards even if still locked? Rewards those that have the best behavior if they slip with a month to not have to worry AS MUCH about if they slip. Especially seeing as near the end of season is also around holiday season which is even more stressful for people.
Realistically Riot should be looking at end of season on a case by case. If a person just had a random bad day because they were trying to push to the next rank and getting trolled ... but all season they were good. Riot should give the benefit to the player. This would be incredibly easy to code into their system also... you can roughly get a chat ban every 3 months of play and never move to a 14 day ban. if a player has had 0 chat bans ... then the first chat ban they get in the season will not affect rewards. Everyone has a bad day. And we need to be human and realize that sometimes people lose their cool ... especially in a tower defense game. If Riot wants to cut toxicity out of League ... there is only 1 solution. Close down League. Any time a player other than yourself can impact your gameplay ... there will be toxicity.
: yup, you have to be toxic game after game. you don't get to randomly decide that "2 days isn't enough to be consistent". there's an algorithm which determines whether it's consistent, not you. the fact that someone gets a chat restriction is proof that they're consistently negative.
Let's break this down logically. Literally, using logical statements ;) > you don't get to randomly decide that "2 days isn't enough to be consistent". I actually didn't make that decision, the definition of consistent did. Just like I don't get to make the decision of what consistency is, nor does Riot. If anyone can make a definition into what they want ... Our language and communication wouldn't be .... what is that word again? Consistent. > there's an algorithm which determines whether it's consistent, not you. the fact that someone gets a chat restriction is proof that they're consistently negative. This statement here is completely flawed. And I want to show you how incredibly flawed it is. Sub RacialCheck () Dim total_rows As Long Dim current_row As Long Dim current_column As Long Dim total_columns As Long total_rows = Worksheets("Chat Log Data").UsedRange.Rows.Count Dim WS As Worksheet For current_row = 1 To (total_rows) language = Worksheets("Chat Instance").Cells(current_row, 15).Value If language = "arbitrary racial slur" Then result = "Acceptable Content - Not Considered Racism" ElseIf score = "GG, WP Everyone" Then result = "Racist Comment - Ban Approved" Else GoTo SkipRacismCheck End If Worksheets("Chat Log Output").Cells(current_row, 22).Value = result Reset score = vbNullString result = 0 SkipRacismCheck: Next current_row End Sub This is a short Visual Basic Code. It is checking for racist commentary in a chat log. It defines racism as saying "GG, WP Everyone" and defines acceptable non-racist commentary as items such as racial slurs and so on. This is an important illustration because it points out the flaw in your statement: > there's an algorithm which determines whether it's consistent, not you. the fact that someone gets a chat restriction is proof that they're consistently negative. My VBA coding defines GG, WP Everyone as Racist ... and arbitrary racial slurs as not racist .... Does my algorithm prove that the racial slurs are not racism? Anything can be coded into a logical statement ... even if that statement is not logical.
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