: if you want to counter him, play GP or Panth. if you cant kite, learn how to. its like fighting garen or darius.
> [{quoted}](name=Doopliss7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fwy7ywQE,comment-id=00270000,timestamp=2020-01-27T12:23:21.834+0000) > > if you want to counter him, play GP or Panth. > > if you cant kite, learn how to. its like fighting garen or darius. I can kite him, but if other team members dont know how to, he will still get fed. Also it requires champs that CAN kite. Ashe is a good one. but keep in mind, just because you are kiting him doesnt mean he doesnt have teammates that cant cc u. If they cc u, and get gets on you, it is pretty much gg. THAT is where he is just busted. As far as laning, he only "loses" from making mistakes. Playing perfectly tho, he wins pretty much all match ups....
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: LMAO Sett
Hes busted because he just beats/ counters everyone..at least it seems like it. He can be kited, but in solo que where so many other champs have hard cc, kiting is pretty hard to do. If you cannot kite him, he will most likely win due to the nature of him being super tanky yet doing burst damage.
: I don't find Sett oppressive
Hes not. Hes the most balanced champ on release in a while. His W is a little overwhelming, but you can dodge it. Given how kitable he is and how if he doesn't snowball how weak he is, he is fine. If he gets nerfed, hes going to drop to B tier top at most and an even worse jungler than he already is.
: > [{quoted}](name=8 Lamar Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=EGuUFgiM,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-01-23T23:01:28.249+0000) > > wouldn't that be sort of redundant? Hmm depends. The Manhattan I know is the one from the original story. He is not quite a god. He has the power to control matter at a subatomic level. However, he is shown to still have a human conscience that somewhat inhibits him from using the full scope of his powers. With the gauntlet he'd be an organism with supreme awareness of the universe while being able to affect it in any way he wants from anywhere.
He can already do that. If anything Manhattan trumps the IG as the IG is bound to its universe. Current Dr Manhattan is multiverse. Hes basically on the level of a full powered Darkseid with only beings like The Presence and Lucifer being at that level.
: Nah, there's still Dr. Manhattan with an infinity gauntlet
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Pyrosan (NA)
: congratulations you are the best out of the 2 ashe support mains
> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tAnTlqdR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-21T23:44:43.024+0000) > > congratulations you are the best out of the 2 ashe support mains Thanks :D I am pretty sure the calculations include all Ashe's, but I appreciate you.
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: What happens when you dodge a placement match?
it doesnt count as a loss but it does go against your placements. Like instead of going 9/10 in placements, it would be 9/11 with 1 dodge. Still better thn losing the game.
: I can't deal with Ranked anymore
Nobody Cares =========== Work Harder
: Anyone else feel like placements are absurdly unbalanced atm?
Luck factor. If you get bad placements, youre put well below what your actual rank really is. Went from g2 to B2 (bronze 2), and Im having to reclimb, currently sitting at s2 due to piss poor placement trolls. A lot of people are still in placements too meaning they could be former mid to low silvers who have been reset, and get placed into your match because of how badly your placements went. I personally think Riot does it on purpose for sinister reasons, but eh, im addicted so it's whatever.
GFREEMEN (NA)
: Why only new champs? Its no different then someone going "First time Zed" A better option is to make it so you need to have at least Mastery 1 with a champ before you can play them in Ranked.
: > [{quoted}](name=8 Lamar Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vY825EVc,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2020-01-17T05:35:13.517+0000) > > How many of those games were won before they got to 30 mins tho. A lot of games are pretty much over at 10-15 mins in, but stall out to the 25-30 min mark. Sometimes the losing team can comeback, but usually it just ends up with a we tried to come back, but in the end it didnt matter. A game is rarely over. Just because the mentality of the average player is "we pick Ryze, cassio, vayne and so and we're behind at 15" doesn't mean the game is over. That's one of the main problems.
Bro. According to League of Graphs, whoever get the first tower (usually within 10 mins) wins the game over 70% of the time. Whoever gets the 1st inhib wins like 85-90% of the time. There is a reason that the higher elo you go, the more likely they are to surrender. It's just how the game is now. It's very snowbally which is weird because this is what folks asked for seasons back. It is now, win lane, win game pretty much. When I say win lane, i mean not only in terms of kill, but tower pressure. If you really really win your lane, especially mid, you probably win the game due to how snowbally it is.
: Games last from 28 to 31 minutes. In your region it goes from 29 to 32 https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/es/rankings/game-durations
How many of those games were won before they got to 30 mins tho. A lot of games are pretty much over at 10-15 mins in, but stall out to the 25-30 min mark. Sometimes the losing team can comeback, but usually it just ends up with a we tried to come back, but in the end it didnt matter.
: > [{quoted}](name=8 Lamar Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RUQvHG5t,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-15T20:04:16.169+0000) > > There are plenty of other supports that if you pick them into Leo, you are putting yourself in a bad spot. You think Senna into Leo is a good idea? Actually..do you think Bard is a good pick vs a Leona? There are good and bad matchups everywhere in this game. However to say picking Ashe as a support is the same as picking someone like Zed is just asinine. As mentioned below the utility Ashe brings, is unique to HER. Ashe support has a 44.7% winrate. And the only unique thing she brings is hawkshot. A long range engage is brought by a lot of champions. Slows are brought by a lot of champions. Literally the only unique thing she brings to the support role, is hawkshot. She has high mana costs, she needs CDR, or she needs DPS items. And since shes crit-based, that means expensive DPS items. At best you are gonna complete 2 of those items before the game is over/decided. What are they? Bortk/Runaans, or Essence/Runaans? You gonna go Lethality? you going full utility troll builds like ardent censor/font of life or whatever other junk and doing zero damage? She works, because just about any champion works as support as long as they bring SOMETHING, but to act like shes some top-tier support is reaching. You honestly just dont care about Elo and just wanna be an edgelord if your picking something like Ashe over Senna/Bard. And more power to you if you wanna be one of those guys, like the Singed support player. But dont act like its good; be honest with yourself and other people. Your picking Ashe support to be edgy and off-meta, not because its some top-tier strategy. And if thats how you wanna make a name for yourself, "Look at me I'm diamond/plat/whatever Ashe support main," then great, but posting here saying its good and viable I mean cmon bro.
[](http://<a href="https://ibb.co/X35rZbZ"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/VQCcWtW/supp-ashe.png" alt="supp-ashe"></a>)
: > [{quoted}](name=8 Lamar Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RUQvHG5t,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-15T20:04:16.169+0000) > > There are plenty of other supports that if you pick them into Leo, you are putting yourself in a bad spot. You think Senna into Leo is a good idea? Actually..do you think Bard is a good pick vs a Leona? There are good and bad matchups everywhere in this game. However to say picking Ashe as a support is the same as picking someone like Zed is just asinine. As mentioned below the utility Ashe brings, is unique to HER. Ashe support has a 44.7% winrate. And the only unique thing she brings is hawkshot. A long range engage is brought by a lot of champions. Slows are brought by a lot of champions. Literally the only unique thing she brings to the support role, is hawkshot. She has high mana costs, she needs CDR, or she needs DPS items. And since shes crit-based, that means expensive DPS items. At best you are gonna complete 2 of those items before the game is over/decided. What are they? Bortk/Runaans, or Essence/Runaans? You gonna go Lethality? you going full utility troll builds like ardent censor/font of life or whatever other junk and doing zero damage? She works, because just about any champion works as support as long as they bring SOMETHING, but to act like shes some top-tier support is reaching. You honestly just dont care about Elo and just wanna be an edgelord if your picking something like Ashe over Senna/Bard. And more power to you if you wanna be one of those guys, like the Singed support player. But dont act like its good; be honest with yourself and other people. Your picking Ashe support to be edgy and off-meta, not because its some top-tier strategy. And if thats how you wanna make a name for yourself, "Look at me I'm diamond/plat/whatever Ashe support main," then great, but posting here saying its good and viable I mean cmon bro.
Where are you getting 44% from? From looking at League of Graphs, shes at 50.7% win ratio gold plus, and it only goes up the higher the division. [](https://ibb.co/X35rZbZ)
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: Ashe support works in a "lets see if I can make this work" thing and not a good thing. I mean if you like that, why would you ever pick that over say, Bard? I've played Ashe support and its not good. Its just one of those things where you see if you can win with it. And I've played damn near everything as support. Gangplank, Darius, Ahri, played Azir last night, played Ziggs, Ezreal, you name it I've probably tried supporting with it to success or failure. Ashe does have some things in her kit that lets her be useful outside of items but its still not great. I dont care in normals, but having an Ashe support in ranked is just trolling. Especially if you blind pick it into Leona's/Nauts/Blitz's. You offer some lane poke, some slows, and an ult. I mean at that point just play Bard. He has slows, he has a long range ult to start fights/save them, you can build ANY item in the game on him; I mean any item in the game, and its not troll (His current best build is Deadmans+RFC), and he just has a more useful kit at all stages of the game.
There are plenty of other supports that if you pick them into Leo, you are putting yourself in a bad spot. You think Senna into Leo is a good idea? Actually..do you think Bard is a good pick vs a Leona? There are good and bad matchups everywhere in this game. However to say picking Ashe as a support is the same as picking someone like Zed is just asinine. As mentioned below the utility Ashe brings, is unique to HER.
: Ashe specifically has extra map awareness in Hawkshot, providing vision and preventing ganks more frequently than wards can recharge; She also has built in slows to her auto-attacks, that get stronger and longer if she crits the enemy; she's also got HARD CC in the form of a stun in her ultimate, and it's got a fairly decent CD. So Ashe is VERY viable as a support, moreso than many many other champions because of the sheer amount of utility in her kit. She absolutely makes life hell for short range ADCs like Kai'Sa and Vayne, and gives your own ADC such a nasty advantage over immobile ADCs like Draven who can't deal with constantly slows.
But they don't hear me tho. Thank you!
iiGazeii (NA)
: I am comparing them, because they need expensive items to scale and don't have enough utility to properly support their team. Champions like the others you mentioned can be supports because they have consistent hard CC to set up kills for their teammates and powerful spells to help zone enemies off of their carry during the laning phase. They don't need a pile of gold to function. Ashe does. It's not necessary for a support to generate gold, but they need to generate value. I mentioned Senna because she is a marksman support, and the only reason she can play like a marksman without taking all the gold is because she doesn't need to scale with gold. Ashe doesn't have that luxury. Without gold income, Ashe will fall off hard, and her CC and utility are not very good compared to what a champion like Karma, Morgana, or Braum could do in her place. She's nowhere near being "one of the most powerful supports". She's sub-par at best.
what is your highest ranking to base your opinion on?
iiGazeii (NA)
: She's a support as much as LeBlanc is a support. Functional? Yes. Viable? No. Ashe simply doesn't get enough resources playing support to scale properly, and her utility isn't high enough to warrant the pick. You can make it work, but you're not going to be performing nearly as well as taking an actual support. The reason why Senna works is because she generates extra gold and stats simply for standing in lane and hitting people. She scales through her passive, not through her items. Ashe needs items, and she doesn't get enough of them as a support.
Youre seriously comparing Leblanc to Ashe as a Supp? There are plenty of supports that dont have passive gold in their kit that still work. If you consider champs like {{champion:1}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:101}} supports, so is She... If played correctly she can be one of the most powerful supports, especially with her map hack ability that allows you to see where your enemy is from anywhere in the map. With the new supp items, shes even better as a support or adc, whichever you prefer.
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Kbee (EUW)
: Ended Gold 3 season 9 went 5/5 in placements got bronze 1 season 10.
PareidolÏa (EUNE)
: I need explanation for current placement system. [Placed in bronze iv and playing vs gold 1-p4]
because it is about reminding you of the hell you were once in. Every season is a refresher of such hell before u climb your way out the pits.
ODiiiiiN (NA)
: Ranked is a Joke
When i post that this game is mostly luck I get downvoted asap lol. The thing I have learned about climbing in this game is it is simply a matter of time. Yes if you are absurdly better than your opponents you can go from "unranked to Diamond" or whatever, but that is literally less than 1% of players. If you are low Plat and below, the climb will be just that...a long grinding climb.
: Uh huh, so if my entire team feeds, and I end up feeding too because the entire enemy team can now one shot me. That's totally 100% my fault, right? Listen, no matter how good you are, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to win a 1 vs 5 against a team who's been fed into mid-late game when you haven't even built your first item. I'm all for taking responsibility for your own ranking, but making people feel at fault even when they're not isn't going to motivate anyone. Last season my final qualifying match had 2 leavers, and 2 trolls that decided "We might as well int since we can't win anyway". And despite going even, it was a stomp. Better advice. If you keep trying, eventually you'll start getting teams that match your competence (hopefully). Maybe not as motivational, but it's honest.
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: Why didn't you dodge then?
already dodged a game before. Why is autofill even allowed in placements??
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: https://lol.gamepedia.com/Karma What are you talking about? Wukong appears 1 times or 2 in competitive btw.
Karma is in a much better spot than WU imo. Wu is almost unplayable and a troll pick lol.
: Non-Support tanks are finding success only with damage builds.
1st of all. {{champion:89}} can solo lane and can jungle.
: Year of the Rat!
6ix9ine Twitch and Teemo skins plz. Label it as "new age hip hop" theme.
pwc2016 (NA)
: Please update Tryndamere
Tryn is too easily beaten to need a rework/nerf. Now Pyke,or these other overloaded champs and that is a different story.
Fourth Shot (EUNE)
: if ur stuck in gold with 1000 games then ur just bad.try getting better man
This is ironic given your current play history. Gold is above average. Not everyone can or will be diamond,and just because you are below diamond doesnt make you bad, just doesnt make you great. This post is for any elo tho. If you are going to flame someone, do it AFTER the game. Flaming someone, especially if they are doing well, or at the very least not feeding just goes against the ultimate goal which is to win the match. There are matches I have been in where we clearly had a win, but 1 player thought "this win is in hand, so now i can flame" and then ended up losing the match cause the person on the receiving end of the flame valued seeing the flamer losing rather than him/her winning. Save it for AFTER.
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: Account I've had for nearly 8 years was hacked and permabanned
I have had 2 accounts taken over by a toxic person who got them banned. I tried to explain this to the support team, but they werent trying to hear it. I had to regrind and make sure my stuff is extra secure and no more toxic got on my new account. You must do the same. GL in the grind.
sodj (EUW)
: Hear me out: A summoner spell to fake cast abilities (except dashes)
I dont like this because it makes the game even more reliant on guessing/luck. If there is no way to counter play/ tell which one is which then no thanks. You can obviously see when other summoners are used, so this would have to be just as noticeable.
: So you've left Elo hell? Welcome to the next tier, Ego hell.
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: That does nothing to solve the problem auto fill was created for in the first place. Also, how would that even work? You’re forced to play with that person’s champ, runes, and build? I don’t want to play someone else’s play style. And they can’t change the champ either, because that’s not fair to the enemy team.
ok, then make it a separate thing that one can opt into. This isn't to fix what autofill was created for, this is to give teams whose teammates have quite a better chance at winning. Notice i said gone for 3+ minutes, so this isn't for someone experiencing connection issues. This would be for when someone chooses to leave and hasn't returned for 3+ minutes. You would be able to que and pick whatever runes you desired and would start off at the average level of your teammates. You'd be given a certain amount of gold based on minutes played in the match. I repeat, it would be an opt in situation.
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: I am not sure it´s punishable but from my perspective of what you wrote you wish to ensure your own fun even if it means screwing your teammates chance at having his/hers fun over. Kinda selfish?
I am talking ranked, not norms. i dont ban norms. In ranked though, my objective is to win. So if i have a 60% chance of winning vs a 50% chance of winning by banning a certain champ, i ban that champ.
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