: I've heard people say that if you decrease the amount of lp lost in a game where there was an afk then people would afk more often to abuse it. Simple solultion: Anyone in that afker's party gets double the lp loss while people unrelated to them lose less lp than a normal loss. Simple fix. As for people that leave for life related issues, its a low number of people. They can just grind back up. I've personally had to leave games twice this year because of an important issue coming out of no where and I wouldn't mind losing double lp if it means punishing ragequitters. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Great idea, I'll tweak it a little bit. The afker loses double lp, his party loses normal lp (disincentivizing it for all involved while not screwing over the party member). Then you can give reduced losses to the rest of the team. To be honest though, the LP isn't the only issue, you shouldn't lose any MMR from afk teammate loses either.
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: Yes it is, just build your first item, then buy executioners and sit on it til you need the armor pen. But yes it crushes soraka, and all the healing champs. It reduces healing received by the person you attack, so if the soraka is healing them, they get 60% the healing.
Woah, this came out of nowhere. I made this post when I was a noob. Now two years later, I definitely know the answer to this now. But thanks I guess XD
Pyrosan (NA)
: The argument Riot's made against this kind of thing is that all everyone would have to do is pressure and be toxic to one individual to go AFK, since they believe they're going to lose anyway they might aswell get their own loss deducted, it's too inconsistent of a system to be implicated so I support Riot on not adding it unless they can counter-act that aspect
If I knew the people flaming me would not lose LP if I afk'd wtf would I afk lmao? What?
Shmeeve (NA)
: Why can't there be a skin for a female champ when they are in heavy armor or a large coat.
As a matter of fact, I believe Caitlyn already has a skin with a large coat. And I don't see why ADCs would ever wear heavy armor anyway. Though I could see such a skin on bruiser types like {{champion:254}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:102}}
: Holy f**k riot fix your damn game
Why does this get upvoted? It's literally showcasing everything wrong with these boards.
YaraUwU (NA)
: Just a quick thought for anyone that thinks Qiyana is the dullest champion to date. Kai'sa exists.
I think they're both great designs and I love them both. You're not gonna like every champion but some people will. Stop forcing your opinions on everyone.
: Riot has a thigh fetish, the in-game designers specifically, they always just sexualize champions as much as they can whenever they either rework or release them This is evident towards: {{champion:145}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:84}} (bit of a stretch) edit: It's nothing new for a Chinese company like tencent though, the moba games are wayyy more sexualized
90% of the females in this game have big tits. Do they have a tits fetish? Why aren't you guys complaining then?
: > [{quoted}](name=Aimléss,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GzJwvnWE,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-07T02:42:52.931+0000) > > People will complain about anything {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} God forbid anyone have and opinion aimless. sorry giving a critique in the hopes that we can see improvements to things in the future, I hope you realize that the only way riot knows to change things i.e. {{champion:266}} banner wings {{champion:82}} spell effects and skin tweaks {{champion:10}} skin adjustments {{champion:103}} kda skin adjustments Were the result of people bring up issues with them but no we cant have that we might cause so much disorder with our dissenting opinions right? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Your opinion is that every champ needs to fit "your" cirteria and it's very annoying. I find Sylas Kaisa, etc. cool and I like them. You admit that Pyke and Neeko are done right, so Riot is making champs that fit your criteria already, but because "all" of them don't match your opinions, you feel the need to complain and ask Riot to cater to you. Millions of people play this game, it's not all about you, and the couple dozen of sheep that upvote your post and every post like this.
: Riots champ design is incredibly dull now
People will complain about anything {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Voluug13 (NA)
: I have seen way too many adcs that go to melee to do basic attacks tho. You cant peel stupidity.
Why do people always gotta find a way to throw shots at ADCs on like every post on these boards? :\
Liƒt (NA)
: When someone on your team decides to run it down to make you lose but you still win anyways
: _6/2/2 Top Laner_ _1/1/7 Jungler_ _1/1/2 Mid_ "Good game, everyone is doing pretty good. We're probably going to win" [What's going on bot lan--](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/640993150647131292/B6052F378938896DC7A55B5F239AE5816C7F4EC9/)
: I mean {{champion:498}} is a lot weaker without {{champion:497}} than vice versa. Without Xayah, Rakan just loses out on super deep dives he has no business doing anyway. Without Rakan's chain cc and attention-getting priority, Xayah loses out on the vast majority of her damage from passive+root+followup. {{champion:12}} can be used as a Rakan subsitute, but loses all of the latter's ranged harass to soften up enemies.
Xayah is definitely the better one when alone especially as the game goes on. You could argue that Lulu is better with her than Rakan, specifically late game.
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FridgeD (EUW)
: It's dillusional to post stuff like this. 1. image the blitzcrank could kill his own minions for money and get even more ahead. jungler can lose ALL their gold income due invades. 2. telling that you can just gank instead is the greatest BS i saw today. your jungle will be warded from the enemy supp or jungler. and you will be so weak that you can simply die in a gank. 3. an assassine does not make you a "bitch", you are 1 when playing a "poke mage" aka 1200 range, 0 cd spam machine. your post was the second most gold adc main thing ever, just behind s7 "ardent is a balanced item"
What an unproductive and disgusting post. The first part is just an outright lie. Junglers cannot lose their whole income due to invades... Like, there's just so much bad here I don't even feel like analyzing any of it specifically. Especially the 3rd point. It was rude, unproductive, and disrespectful. I'll just say that you've listed nothing that can't be played around, isn't your own fault as the jungler, and is out of your control. I can already tell that nothing will change your dillusional mind anyway, but that is fine, after reading this, your opinion doesn't matter to me.
: Nobody wants Jg.
It's dillusional to think that jungle is somehow a bad role. Unlike other roles, you can't find yourself stuck in a farm lane praying that no one feeds so the game isn't over by the time laning phase ends. Or a support going Sona into Blitz, auto fucking your lane. You don't have to worry about getting zoned off CS by a Neeko top as a melee only to get tower dove the instant the huge wave crashes into your tower. You don't have to worry about being a poke mage Mid against Zed and play defensively so you don't die only for him to run bot lane and tower dive your bot, get a double kill and come back mid to make you his bitch the rest of the game. Jungle can get invaded, but there's ways to play around that. All lanes can feed and jungle can be screwed, but if you sit down and hard camped a lane then you at least have the 'ability' to make one lane come out a winner. Even skuttles can be worked around. If you can't get one, gank instead. There are always options, there is always something a jungler can do. It doesn't always work, but hell, you have the ability to try it. That can't be said about other lanes, sometimes you queue into a game and you're just fucked.
: People prefer playing them in bot instead of mid because of {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:91}} {{item:3155}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3814}}
Lol, since assassins are cancer mid lane, mage players decided to go be the cancer to ADCs? Seems about right.
Voluug13 (NA)
: Malz's ult was balanced around high CD, general squishiness, being the last spell casted on a 4 spell combo and short range. Malz cant even kill people by ''flash ult'' like Annie could as Riot claimed with the rework, and he has no reason to do that in a teamfight. Ryze is an abomination of a champion tho and doesnt deserve to have a spammeable P&C root while being a tanky bruiser.
I feel like there are a lot of healthier ways we could go about point and click CC to make it less toxic to the game. Counterplay is always good. Whether it be because of a time delay, or a certain condition that must be met, I don't think Riot has put as much creativity in trying to make these abilities healthy as they could have.
: I had an interesting thought today at work...
You lost me at "when I go out into the world".
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kargish (EUW)
: You're plat 1 you should be able to figure this out mate. Wanna know what seperates {{champion:107}}{{champion:28}} from {{champion:105}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:238}}? It's that Rengar and Eve actually grants you a warning that you're about to be eaten. The others just make it happen. Why is Rengar a special case when Kayn comes out of a wall with 700 ms, Kha'zix runs at you with true stealth and resetable leaps or LeBlanc points and clicks you down from range. But not only do the latter just one shot you, they can also escape the fight straight after (besides Kayn and Shaco). What is the counter to Zed's 2-hit one shot R, Fizz' shark, Kayn's AoE burst, Kha'zix' uptime and Kassadin's unkiteability. Is the answer {{item:3157}}? Because that applies to Rengar's burst as well. What about {{summoner:4}} then? Also applies to Rengar as you'll avoid E, W and ferocity burst by creating distance.
I can't breath, I almost drowned in the bias. I can dodge most assassins abilities including Zed and Fizz and they give me some time to respond. It's hilarious that the ones with actual STEALTH somehow are the ones with the undodgeable abilities and the shortest amount of time to respond. {{champion:107}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:121}} What are we doing Riot???
: False. Jungles performance depends entirely on his mid laner. If your mid lane is assisting your jungler in scuttle skirmishes. Your jungler is going to win. If the enemies mid lane is assisting his jungler, and yours isn't, the enemy jungler is going to win.
Not really. I've seen plenty of junglers get out farmed, but gank their asses off, snowball their team, and in the end that vastly makes up for the farm lead. Just looked at like my last 15 games, and better jg won like all but 2 of em. And the two losses were just the jgler not ending fast enough and getting outscaled. If a game is ending somewhere around 20 minutes, you can bet "better JG" has something to do with it.
: >Tower Skins OOH. That's the one i'd be the most for, imagine some sort of living structure from the Void replacing Towers. That would be so sick! If only... _Sigh_
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KEfTQEw,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-30T21:11:49.644+0000) > > OOH. That's the one i'd be the most for, imagine some sort of living structure from the Void replacing Towers. That would be so sick! > > If only... > > _Sigh_ Imagine an entire void map pack. That would be sick.
: Doesn't the LP splash onto your main role or did i misread that?
It does splash even at the start. It just doesn't splash by that much at first, probably like 2-5 or something. But if you keep doing it it starts adding up to 10-20 then you will really start to feel it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aimléss,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y4ourrJq,comment-id=00350000,timestamp=2019-01-23T01:19:26.384+0000) > > If ur gonna buy zhonyas specifically for lux, you might as well just buy banshees. Stops the Q and tanks the combo better. You're never buying the Zhonya's explicitly for Lux. At a minimum, it's always offering some survivability against their ADC. Surviving one more auto may mean getting your cooldowns back and blowing him up. However I'd also argue that Zhonya's is better at denying lux than Banshees is: First - Lux gets an ultimate (partial) reset. Zhonya's can bait her ult. Banshees won't bait it, so she'll still have it for your allies. Second - You can't choose when to use Banshees. Any stray spell that hits you will pop it. Pretty sure the Luden's passive will pop it. So Lux E's your casters, pops your Banshees with the Ludens proc, and then you're completely exposed to that Q you can't dodge again.
I think you're forgetting that Banshees veil is less than half the CD of zhonyas, can also help you against other champs, gives you a lot of MR so even if it's down you can survive the combo, etc. etc. There are a ton of factors out there obviously, and zhonyas is probably the better item, but it is not the best at dealing with lux in particular.
: Question, why didn't you immediately chnage the password after the first incident that you witnessed first hand?
I don't see how this question is being productive since the past can't be changed.
: Just a word of advice to get zhonya's against lux if you can't Dodge her Q. You are only rooted, not stunned, so you can activate it to avoid the ult and e damage (and deny her partial reset).
If ur gonna buy zhonyas specifically for lux, you might as well just buy banshees. Stops the Q and tanks the combo better.
: Isn't he right? Someone is asking ADC mains about something, then they answer how hard it is blah blah blah and that they're making a great sacrifice. I'd say it fits definition of post for adc mains/adorers
I figure in a world where 4k hp tanks are blown up, saying that 2k hp ADCs also got blown up shouldn't be so far fetched that the post would need a label like that. There are posts like this for other roles like mages and tanks all the damn time, smh.
: I mean every lane gets flamed so that´s nothing strange overall, jungle in particular gets hit a lot with it so if you can jungle and stay cool you probably wont feel pressure from any other lane.
I agree that JG is the most flamed role, they get abused hard. Though ADC is definitely number 2 because most of the other remaining lanes are only really gonna get flamed for feeding. ADCs get flamed for farming, not farming, getting tower dove, and my favorite, "being in melee range" cause that is the only possible way {{champion:164}} could've ever got onto me. XD
Aimléss (NA)
: Sorry, Jinx is cuter than Karthus. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Aimléss,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=13Xye45V,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-19T16:45:30.770+0000) > > Sorry, Jinx is cuter than Karthus. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} -7 for a harmless joke? Jeez, you guys are salty.
: Yo Riot, yall gonna forget about the Karthus emote? Cuz I'm not gonna forget about it.
Sorry, Jinx is cuter than Karthus. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Crit item rework response
The storm razor idea is really good, I like it. The lifesteal one seems OP though, it probably would have to lose one of its stats, preferably not the crit. As for IE, it isn't fine and needs an extra passive, either that or lower the cost. It'll be the weakest it's every been with these changes. I think Riot is staying too inside the box, they are reworking a class for the 2nd time in half a year and won't even add anything new besides the new phantom dancer which no one likes.
Galiö (NA)
: Yeah we need more damage Crit options. And by we I mean people who play marksmen, yasuo, tryndamere, and the occasional garen whi does that short of thing. I made a post of changes I'd make (that are semi similar to one proposed). Shameless plug: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/t5evHwqr-regarding-the-planned-critical-item-changes-what-i-would-do I usually just push for a Galio change in the boards and dont really talk about other xhnages much, but I thought my crit idea was pretty alright in direction. I mean I doubt theyd listen to me. Almost no chance. But let me know if my changes would be nice (or better)
This is nice, I have no problem with Riot adding more items to the game. Tbh, we should be gaining items every few months instead of a new champion sometimes. New champs destroy the meta anyway, a few items a year won't break the game any more than them.
: I think Shard items are in a fine spot, tbh. Yes, only champs that synergize with them build them... but that's also true for Runaan's, isn't it? As long as all marksmen have items that work for them, I don't see a major issue here. It's far better than the classic mage problem, where 90+% of mages build *exactly* the same thing because they all want moar damage. The items that have the most AP become meta, Ryze and Anivia keep building Tear and RoA, and that sums up the mage meta for the past 10 years, basically. I *like* that marksmen have specific items that synergize with some kits and not others. I think that's a good thing.
Yes, it's not gamebreaking, but this is the second rework in a row. At this point, we should try to make it count. With all the time Riot has poured into marksmen this last year, if they were to just revert it to what it was before, the amount of time and effort put in would be a huge waste of time.
Galiö (NA)
: Storm razor is an awkward outlier. But for marksmen itll prob be: 2 zeal items and IE Or zeal, one of the two other crit options (Likelt just essence reaver) , IE Stormrazer will prob just stay for champs that need to be strong early. Items proposed in better direction but still not a fix (so far)
Yeah, I could see why they would want to keep storm razor as an early game adc rush item. There's still a void for a starter ADC item for those that don't build ER though. IE would be a good choice but it lacks AS. ER can still be rushed without attack speed, since those champs rely on abilities (AD) a lot more. Without an AD crit and AS item, we're going to continue to see the awkward BF sword into Zeal item build.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Aimléss,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sVrm68EA,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-01-15T14:23:14.108+0000) > > It's not a lot at all. You're already worth 300 gold, the 38 CS lead just gives you a +150 gold bounty. And there is no way in hell you'd reach 1000 gold with just a CS lead. Your opponent would have to be afk... I've hit 1000 Gold bounty before as Udyr with 0 kills or assist, purely just off counter jungling and dragons ect.
Yeah on Udyr. You probably had 10 CS per min against an enemy jg who would've been lucky to have half that. I bet you were in his JG all game taking everything. Regardless that's not something that a tank can do, so it really has nothing to do with the OP.
Satakieli (EUNE)
: IMO this whole CS lead thing is unbalanced. Imagine having a midlane, something like Anivia vs Leblanc or a champion with virtually no waveclear. Of course the powerfarmer will have a CS lead and a bounty, if he is not feeding. It's not fair getting 500-1000G just because a champion's kit is better at farming, and maybe weaker in duels?
It's not a lot at all. You're already worth 300 gold, the 38 CS lead just gives you a +150 gold bounty. And there is no way in hell you'd reach 1000 gold with just a CS lead. Your opponent would have to be afk...
: Lmao. If something doesn’t kill an adc early, late game is screwed. Now before you say but burst damage I’ll tell you this. If you have items that give you immunity to burst damage and you have damage that can answer a tank then what is suppose to kill you?
Anyone that can deal 2000 damage with full build. Aka **Every single champion in the game** that's not a pure tank.
Ahris (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fEeNbAEc,comment-id=001600000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T16:04:46.885+0000) > > "Lose their QSS" > > What's wrong? too many ADC's qss'ing your charm? > > If Marksmen lose their tank busting power we'll be back into a permanent tank meta due to no one being able to bust them. It is one of most broken defensive item in game that can deny kits. Even if Ahri players outplay and land charm, that is completely denied
Ahri can literally dash directly into your face and charm you. Outplay? There is no counter-play for that mobility besides QSS, so we'll be keeping QSS pal.
: If I had a job...
Let's be real, the boards complain about 90% of what they do and there's no way they're that bad. You guys really need to get the crust out of your eyes.
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: draven is actually very susceptible to burst damage champs early game and his early game isnt really that strong its just if he hits his full combo on you at level 6 you will most likely die . not only is he hard to play ( hes really not that hard to play in reality , hard to play is more defined by how much focus the player needs to execute the functions they need to do in order to play their champion efficently . i.e. if you are playing kha zix and u dont know how to take advantage of bushes to ambush enemies you are essentially a bad kha zix player ) if a diana jg comes to your lane to gank at lvl 6 odds are he will get shut down everytime before he has a chance to damage your adc much . also dravens lategame is very arguably one of the worst for an adcs and comes close to as bad as sivirs lategame . his whole gimmick really is cashing out his stacks and being the most farmed champion for a quick victory under 40 mins usually .
Why are you responding to this 2 year old post, just to try and counter it with a bad block of biased, non-organized nor thought out argument? {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: --> insert title about botlane diversity <--
You guys are overthinking things. No one plays Mordekaiser bot because no one plays Mordekaiser at all... ADCs enjoy the ranged backline playstyle, so Yasuo, Swain, etc. won't catch on too hard in the bot lane. The real fact of the matter is that if I play bruisers I'm queing top, if I play mages I'm staying mid etc. And ADCs are just gonna play ADCs. At the moment, Ziggs, Brand, Heim, Kassadin, etc. can still work bot, but in order for people to play those instead of the marksmen they wanna play they got to be OP in bot lane which just isn't healthy.
Rαy (EUW)
: Change my mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm looking at Kaisa's ass regardless of what color she is.
Rester (NA)
: I mean... Blade of the ruined king is the alternative.
None of those champs really want to use BOTRK and the only one's who can/do are Ashe and Twitch and it is not that good on them really.
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: Come to think of it I think this might become a LW replacement for almost every ADC.
It's nowhere near as effective as a pen item as LDRs, and it gives a ton of useless stats for crit ADCs.
: Volibear is the most braindead tank champ and one of the most op ones (don’t ask for stats). oh let me press q and e and run at you then bite your hp bar to zero with nothing you can do (kiting doesn’t count).. oh not to mention the mundo ult on his passive because of course right.
I know you're being sarcastic, but it's disgusting to compare Volibear's counter-play to Leblanc's even with sarcasm. It's just that night and day.
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