HalexUwU (NA)
: Why does no one buy last whisper
no offense what so ever meant, but you're in silver (i am too so hence no offense meant) I am sure that has a lot to do with it, a lot of higher tier play ive watched or friends playing they will build it if its a necessity, but as already mentioned theirs better items than LW unless you got a rammus building straight up full armor
iiGazeii (NA)
: Riot's argument is that URF causes burnout. People love it and play it a ton, then tend to take a break from League once it goes away. People get used to the fast-paced craziness and find the normal game to be less enjoyable by comparison.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zdvEsP3K,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T22:29:55.218+0000) > > Riot's argument is that URF causes burnout. People love it and play it a ton, then tend to take a break from League once it goes away. People get used to the fast-paced craziness and find the normal game to be less enjoyable by comparison. as previously said, if a custom mode is gonna risk burnout, their main game needs work
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Tarquin96 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:30:50.594+0000) > > urf is about as balanced as you can get, as its suppose to be unbalanced, champions arent meant to have no mana costs combined with 80% cdr, that alone breaks so many kits/champions to the point theirs very little balance outside of who can click faster/better accuracy/better timing, beyond that theres a whole rooster of champs who can 1 hit the world Every champ building 6 ie and 1shot you by 1 aa sure as fuck isnt balanced,they can do the same thing they did to aram and give ¸% dmg nerfs to people
> [{quoted}](name=Tarquin96,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T19:17:23.491+0000) > > Every champ building 6 ie and 1shot you by 1 aa sure as fuck isnt balanced,they can do the same thing they did to aram and give ¸% dmg nerfs to people yea aram doesnt have a backlist of things that prevent that from being as easy or even as doable as it was with aram compared to urf. aram is afterall 5vs5 in one lane, nothing else really that different. Urf changes the whole gameplay considerably, no mana costs, high cdr, high tenacity, minion last hits arent as important with shared gold and being able to nuke a player for 100-500g or more ina few seconds. but for god sakes, if i had to tell every idiot urf is basically impossible to balance correctly, we would be here awhile. theres enough balance to enjoy it. Any decent mid tier+ player can and will see/enjoy that fact, the only ones i see screaming about unbalanced 24/7 and using it to argue against urf are the same ones who are hardstuck bronze and cry about elo hell, nothing new. {{champion:114}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:16:37.341+0000) > > The defense it burns players out is downright stupid. Burned out from urf? don't play it. I switch between urf and ranked daily, and am fine with it. it doesnt make sense to get rid of a game mode that appeals so much to so many people, got you loads of attention due to youtube content on it, etc. Riot's data suggested that people stopped playing the game at all. Not just URF. People who normally played normals or ranked just didnt come back after URF was out for a few days. I dont care if URF is permanent or not, but don't misrepresent the argument.
> [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=00010005,timestamp=2019-11-10T21:40:34.089+0000) > > Riot's data suggested that people stopped playing the game at all. Not just URF. People who normally played normals or ranked just didnt come back after URF was out for a few days. I dont care if URF is permanent or not, but don't misrepresent the argument. we've already had this argument, its false. Urf if anything brings more players to the game than it drives away, YOU OR RIOT are welcome to prove me wrong, with stats/numbers btw, not just words.
: How many of you actually are burned out because of urf and don't like the regular game cause of urf?
Dang go figure the people hating on the mode seem extremely toxic and mad, it's not hard to critique something without making yourself look personally offended about the subject lol
: > [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=F0eP5doo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:59:34.401+0000) > > (AR)URF is the least fun gamemode I have ever had the displeasure of playing. The people who "like" it must really hate themselves if they find that toxic cesspool even remotely "fun" or worth their precious time, cause all you do is stomp or get stomped. Nothing about that is fun or enjoyable. Glad its gone and I hope URF and its random variant never come back I agree. ARURF is un-fun. Now, ARAM-URF would be a blast. Alas...
> [{quoted}](name=fatherdarius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=F0eP5doo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-10T04:01:48.460+0000) > > I agree. ARURF is un-fun. > > Now, ARAM-URF would be a blast. Alas... ARURF does suck, thats why it was refreshing to have actual urf this time, oh well
: (AR)URF is the least fun gamemode I have ever had the displeasure of playing. The people who "like" it must really hate themselves if they find that toxic cesspool even remotely "fun" or worth their precious time, cause all you do is stomp or get stomped. Nothing about that is fun or enjoyable. Glad its gone and I hope URF and its random variant never come back.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=F0eP5doo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:59:34.401+0000) > > (AR)URF is the least fun gamemode I have ever had the displeasure of playing. The people who "like" it must really hate themselves if they find that toxic cesspool even remotely "fun" or worth their precious time, cause all you do is stomp or get stomped. Nothing about that is fun or enjoyable. Glad its gone and I hope URF and its random variant never come back. Well you seem awfully toxic for someone complaining about others being toxic, I see that as a trend from a lot of players who complain about toxicity.
: just like the wow forums, its a small % I'd guess. I wish urf was prem, I don't get burned out from it. TFT was fun in its way, sitting on Gold with that. The PBE had ARUF doing for well over a month, I went from Summoner LV 91 to 151 it ran so long. But live only got URF for like.. 10 days? URF was still going on the PBE while on Live, I played Senna in urf, fun champ
> [{quoted}](name=Kokudilandau,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=siGav9Xk,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:57:19.041+0000) > > just like the wow forums, its a small % I'd guess. I wish urf was prem, I don't get burned out from it. TFT was fun in its way, sitting on Gold with that. The PBE had ARUF doing for well over a month, I went from Summoner LV 91 to 151 it ran so long. But live only got URF for like.. 10 days? URF was still going on the PBE while on Live, I played Senna in urf, fun champ they said that about classic wow in the forums too, forever. Look what happened to that "small percent", maybe Riot will see the difference as well.
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=siGav9Xk,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:50:41.847+0000) > > as I've said a million times, I have multiple friends over multiple accounts over multiple regions that all literally are quitting cause of urf being removed again. I know/have more friends that quit cause of urf getting removed each time than stay, and the ones that do always agree theres no real reason to not bring it back. Development? Not like Riots lacking money. Players? it literally brings a whole playerbase to the game by itself, it doesn't even need to leech off the existing, if it does it just shows the positive impact of the game mode. I actually can't recall any person that plays league or played league that has ever mentioned they hate urf and want it removed, of course theres probably loads of people that do, but I have yet to meet them. > > oh well me and many others really dont care for what comes next, if they cant keep a simple mode so many people love, me and many others will just go to the games that can. > {{champion:142}} Well you have now met one, I personally only played it a few times this time and can honestly say I have never cared for it. It was fun in 2014 for the first few times but whenever any iteration of it comes around, I for one tend to ignore it. There have been far better modes that they have created since then. I will play it once and awhile if friends really want too but I just don't often enjoy it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=siGav9Xk,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:55:12.750+0000) > > Well you have now met one, I personally only played it a few times this time and can honestly say I have never cared for it. It was fun in 2014 for the first few times but whenever any iteration of it comes around, I for one tend to ignore it. There have been far better modes that they have created since then. I'm not arguing they haven't created better modes, I just enjoy the replay-ability of urf. But I obvious expected someone to comment this when I made my comment, derp.
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=siGav9Xk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:23:18.760+0000) > > the forums are full of bring back urf/urf is great/urf makes people enjoy the game, yet riot argues it burns us all out. I guess Riot decides whats best for us, not us. Cause the forums are a minority of the community. They don't show a large %
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=siGav9Xk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:43:39.329+0000) > > Cause the forums are a minority of the community. They don't show a large % as I've said a million times, I have multiple friends over multiple accounts over multiple regions that all literally are quitting cause of urf being removed again. I know/have more friends that quit cause of urf getting removed each time than stay, and the ones that do always agree theres no real reason to not bring it back. Development? Not like Riots lacking money. Players? it literally brings a whole playerbase to the game by itself, it doesn't even need to leech off the existing, if it does it just shows the positive impact of the game mode. I actually can't recall any person that plays league or played league that has ever mentioned they hate urf and want it removed, of course theres probably loads of people that do, but I have yet to meet them. oh well me and many others really dont care for what comes next, if they cant keep a simple mode so many people love, me and many others will just go to the games that can. {{champion:142}}
iiGazeii (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aGQNBEQH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:26:40.569+0000) > > I don't see any evidence behind this but the fact Riot repeats it over and over again. I and every single person on my friends list on multiple of my accounts in different regions including IRL friends all disagree. We all still play ranked, along with urf as a break. The fact its been removed again with again no actual solid evidence of the numbers they consistently claim boggles my mind, the fact players keep regurgitating this same argument in defense as well is even worse. Keeping it even as custom would of been a decision showing Riot cares of the opinion of its players outside of money backed, alas once again they fail, also just gonna put the very obvious out there, there are so many money/skin/etc possibilities with urf, they just have horrible decisions What reason would they have to lie about it? If URF had a neutral or positive impact on the game and served a valuable purpose by giving players a way to blow off steam, then they would want to keep it around instead of devoting programmer and developer time to putting it up, balancing it, maintaining it, then taking it down again. If you don't trust what they're saying, why would you trust a graph or spreadsheet they would post as evidence? Or would you need to look at the raw data first-hand to be satisfied? Riot is a company. You can absolutely trust that a company will act in its own best interest. These kinds of decisions are looked over by dozens of people, from PR to market analysts to designers. If they're willing to disappoint the playerbase by taking URF away, then you must assume that they do so only because they think that is what's best for League as a whole
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aGQNBEQH,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:39:34.678+0000) > > What reason would they have to lie about it? If URF had a neutral or positive impact on the game and served a valuable purpose by giving players a way to blow off steam, then they would want to keep it around instead of devoting programmer and developer time to putting it up, balancing it, maintaining it, then taking it down again. > > If you don't trust what they're saying, why would you trust a graph or spreadsheet they would post as evidence? Or would you need to look at the raw data first-hand to be satisfied? > > Riot is a company. You can absolutely trust that a company will act in its own best interest. These kinds of decisions are looked over by dozens of people, from PR to market analysts to designers. If they're willing to disappoint the playerbase by taking URF away, then you must assume that they do so only because they think that is what's best for League as a whole Lol why would I trust spreadsheets or some actual numbers? Maybe because it's easier to trust than the word of a company, I am not saying I don't trust riot as a whole, just not with anything they say for urf. If taking away a mode that literal brings in hundreds if not thousands or more of players to the game, and ends up getting rid of said players when they remove urf, how can you think thats a good decision for the game overall? And league of legends is a game that can make 5-10$ off a recolour of a skin, if you think they don't have the money to back development of modes that bring this much positive attention to the game, you aren't the one I should be arguing with.
: Tenacity should be allowed to reduce a cc duration under 0.5 seconds
this wouldn't be balanced at all, there are many specific champions that can only be countered based on stuns to disrupt or mess up a combo, or allow a quick disposal, you remove this mechanic and you have these carry champions plowing through teams with no hope of even the basic CC being able to stop them, an ability that is in every single moba and no moba allows this kind of tenacity, do you ever wonder why so many big time developers working on these MOBAS don't allow such things? Maybe because they realize how game breaking it actually can be
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KABLUMP (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The JigSAW,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:17:42.903+0000) > > Because they absolutely HATE URF. It wasn't supposed to get popular and that's why they take every chance they get to ruin it or make up fake news about why it supposedly keeps people from playing Rift due to "burn out" - its disgusting how they refuse to give all of us what we want and how fast they had to take the damn thing down. if they ever balanced urf then noone would ever want to play regular rift again Probably because it's a lot faster paced and more fun because of it
> [{quoted}](name=KABLUMP,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQnsEN5k,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:29:15.020+0000) > > if they ever balanced urf then noone would ever want to play regular rift again > > Probably because it's a lot faster paced and more fun because of it urf is about as balanced as you can get, as its suppose to be unbalanced, champions arent meant to have no mana costs combined with 80% cdr, that alone breaks so many kits/champions to the point theirs very little balance outside of who can click faster/better accuracy/better timing, beyond that theres a whole rooster of champs who can 1 hit the world
iiGazeii (NA)
: Probably 5-10 years. The devs have said repeatedly that they believe URF is unhealthy for the longevity of the game. People love it TOO much. They play it endlessly, burn themselves out, and take a break from League to play other games, or they get used to the casual craziness and find themselves unable to enjoy the regular game. URF came back for the 10-year Anniversary because Riot was pulling out all the stops to celebrate. If URF ever comes back and it isn't ARURF or some other variant, then it will likely only be for an event of a similar magnitude.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aGQNBEQH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:22:34.610+0000) > > Probably 5-10 years. The devs have said repeatedly that they believe URF is unhealthy for the longevity of the game. People love it TOO much. They play it endlessly, burn themselves out, and take a break from League to play other games, or they get used to the casual craziness and find themselves unable to enjoy the regular game. > > URF came back for the 10-year Anniversary because Riot was pulling out all the stops to celebrate. If URF ever comes back and it isn't ARURF or some other variant, then it will likely only be for an event of a similar magnitude. I don't see any evidence behind this but the fact Riot repeats it over and over again. I and every single person on my friends list on multiple of my accounts in different regions including IRL friends all disagree. We all still play ranked, along with urf as a break. The fact its been removed again with again no actual solid evidence of the numbers they consistently claim boggles my mind, the fact players keep regurgitating this same argument in defense as well is even worse. Keeping it even as custom would of been a decision showing Riot cares of the opinion of its players outside of money backed, alas once again they fail, also just gonna put the very obvious out there, there are so many money/skin/etc possibilities with urf, they just have horrible decisions
: Make urf permanant
the forums are full of bring back urf/urf is great/urf makes people enjoy the game, yet riot argues it burns us all out. I guess Riot decides whats best for us, not us.
: Yes, with conditions. Just give me the option of hosting a custom urf or ARURF or any of the other popular game modes EVEN TWISTED TREELINE AND DOMINON! ugh...
> [{quoted}](name=ClaireRedfield,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dB7vQFj7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:20:38.336+0000) > > Yes, with conditions. Just give me the option of hosting a custom urf or ARURF or any of the other popular game modes EVEN TWISTED TREELINE AND DOMINON! ugh... legit, how hard is this riot? or do you even care unless we pay a bunch of money towards TFT which is a garbage mode compared to urf, straight up
: URF
The defense it burns players out is downright stupid. Burned out from urf? don't play it. I switch between urf and ranked daily, and am fine with it. it doesnt make sense to get rid of a game mode that appeals so much to so many people, got you loads of attention due to youtube content on it, etc.
: Why you no urf?
looks like me and many other players are quitting league again, never listen to the fans, keeping a game mode in like urf even in customs is not that difficult, its pathetic riot cant atleast look to the large fanbase of urf that actually want it to stay, it keeps me from getting burnt out of regular league, which now will happen very fast
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