: What can we do to have an impact as the community?
The only thing you can do is give up what you believe is fun and abuse the shit out of what is broken. Break it & spread it until Riot is forced to deal with it. The more you & others ruin the game for others gameplay-wise, the more people will quit.
: Aurelion Sol first and now Sylas, these Mini-Reworks are ruining Champions
If Riot cared about what mains thought, the class reworks would have never happened. Malzahar, a champion that received a single nerf over a 5-6 year period due to deathfire touch, ended up receiving one of those "mini reworks" that essentially killed his freedom. Malzahar, upon seeing the void, "chose" to serve it rather than fight against it or run away like other people would have. That reflected in his ability to choose AP or AD, which consequently also allowed him to play virtually any role in the game (Yes even including ADC via tanky physical damage voidlings). Riot killed that and I'll never forgive Repertoir for it Now he is a bastardization of his former self that relies on cookie cutter builds, dealing "only" magic damage, and generally being a mid lane/cc support spam bot that can't stand on his own two feet.
: I need some clarification on New Players and Elo
Shouldn't unranked players start off with either other unranked players or irons/bronze players before working their way up? This sounds like Riot setting new players up for failure by sending them into games where they'll get stomped in.
vimaid (NA)
: How do you fight veigar
...? You beat Veigar like how you beat every other infinite scaling champion. You kill their team. Thats all. Because the entirety of their potential depends entirely on how long their team can last through the game. Simply because when the losing side is behind, they tend to group up And when they group up, they each end up not being able to cs as easily as they compete against each other. --- Basically you're asking how to stop him from scaling So its literally just you placing him in a situation where he can't scale as easily. I don't know what else to tell you. You can shit on him as much as you want, but he can still stack off of minions if his team is still doing alright.
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: Delete gold from item drops
Yes. Seriously though Riot... I'm already fucking econning.
: > Riot could do something similar. Sell accounts inside of the client store to people who already made the grind to level 30 or beyond. But who needs another account after already reaching level 30? Smurfs and permabanned players, both of which are only tolerated because there's no simple way of stopping them. They definitely shouldn't be encouraged by allowing them access to already leveled new accounts without any punishment/cost other than some money (which is a horrible punishment anyway since it's severity is dependent on the receiver's financial situation).
> [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HzRBxlYr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-13T10:39:58.607+0000) > > But who needs another account after already reaching level 30? Smurfs and permabanned players, both of which are only tolerated because there's no simple way of stopping them. They definitely shouldn't be encouraged by allowing them access to already leveled new accounts without any punishment/cost other than some money (which is a horrible punishment anyway since it's severity is dependent on the receiver's financial situation). Even if you don't approve of smurfs, ridding the game of bots via killing of third party account selling businesses would be a quality of life change for the average player.
: > [{quoted}](name=Beacon Academy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dLt9nGPq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:35:20.234+0000) > > Why are you that grouped up in the first place though? > > You literally just have to not be lined up with him and his likely target :/ Literally all he has to do is grab your tank, which will be in the front line, and that will throw the tank back right into your backline with your adc/support/mid laner for a TON of damage since the AOE damage is based off the grabbed targets bonus HP. The radius of Sett's ulti is MASSIVE, so 'wHy aRe yOu tHaT GRoUpEd' is a god awful reason for setts ult being as strong as it is. The AOE slam is nearly as wide as an entire lane. If just 'not grouping' easily solved this problem, then ults like annie and malphite would have gone out of business years ago since their ults radius' are a fraction of the size of setts, but they're still doing fine.
Only the nearby impact zone enemies get the full effect of the ult damage. Like I said: Don't be lined up. Not to mention all your "tank" has to do is fuck up Sett's ult angle Also trying to use near instantaneous ults such as Annie or Malphite to put Sett's parabola ult on a pedestal is intellectually dishonest.
FSRER (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beacon Academy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dLt9nGPq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:35:20.234+0000) > > Why are you that grouped up in the first place though? > > You literally just have to not be lined up with him and his likely target :/ He is created to be a flank champion so he will come behind your adc/support in a fight and ult them towards your frontline so yeah, this slow can be nasty
: Can we get more slow reduction with the introduction of Sett?
Why are you that grouped up in the first place though? You literally just have to not be lined up with him and his likely target :/
: I don't really think so, mostly because Aphelios is mute. Sona would be an ideal champion for many band themed skin lines but couldn't candidate for the simple reason that she can't sing, regardless whether she actually would or not, and Aphelios will be no different.
He could be the guy thats in the video but becomes a meme for doing nothing
Bultz (NA)
: PBE release opinion of Sett
He looks cool. He looks fun. He looks simple. And he has options Almost everything I want in a champ apparently Between him and Senna, I might have fun again since 6.8 (Coughprior{{champion:90}}reworkCough)
: Hey look, Sett is Simple, can you guys give the design team a break now?
After looking at his ratios... This guy is the tank version of old Veigar ._.
: He's too simple tho. He doesn't have reliable engage or cc = kinda garbage in this meta
You guys got a bunch of essay tier champs over the last few seasons Let us simple kit lovers have a champ or two
: I know how to fix top issues and make the game more interactive, PORTALS in alcoves!!!
Yordle Gunner: "Implement portals!" Riot: *Shrugs* Implements portals Mid/Late game bot/top/sup champs get pushed out of the game Early game kill champs reign supreme Mid laners get put on suicide watch because teams are feeding YG & Riot: *Surprised Pikachu Face* --- No.
: Fuck Marry Kill League of Legends Edition
: Back in the old seasons I played Kayle a lot, probably my #3 most played champion in the game. I always thought she had one of the coolest themes being somewhat of a protector or guardian of peace, punishing those who act against it with righteousness. The new Kayle feels more like a corrupt cop just going around beating everyone that doesn't kneel during an anthem. Her voice lines are so aggressive and ruthless and I was never really a fan of her anymore once I found that out. It is like 20-30% of the reason I don't play the new Kayle, I cannot stand her personality.
absolute power corrupts absolutely In this case it was extreme justice. Examples would be the church and witches or church and science
Falrein (EUW)
: Everything wrong with – Syndra, Kayle, Morgana
Burritos aren't potentially as messy as tacos tho :/
Dantenial (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Small Boobs Ahri,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=s0hdX6mE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-10T17:44:04.745+0000) > > Bee Queen Syndra too OwO > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/009/199/116/large/thorsten-erdt-polycount-syndra-final.jpg?1517649939 > > for the protection of bees! that looks cool but I think Lissandra would fit much better for this one {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} art looks {{summoner:14}} though
> [{quoted}](name=Dantenial,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=s0hdX6mE,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-10T18:03:54.028+0000) > > ...I think Lissandra would fit much better... lolwut? Other than a character model, Lissandra has nothing going for her as a queen bee.
: Pyke gold generation with ULT has to go for fairness purposes
The delayed hook and execution contradict each other if gold is removed tbh because then the kills purely become for himself. I don't like Pyke, but if he is going to keep his execute, his Q needs to change to make him a solo laner. That or vice versa to keep him as a support.
: You're kinda half-missing the point of the Runes system. The pure and simple stats are only half the story, the ones from the Keystones and Minor rune choices are typically just a form of extra stats meant to influence your playstyle. What's the difference between AS runes and Lethal Tempo? Lethal Tempo only works against Champions (or procs off champions) instead of 24/7.
Current runes and previous masteries are/were both systems with a bunch of BS bonus effects that: A. Increased the number of damage sources B. Activate(d) automatically So now we have a game that is filled with un-outplayable mini events, which also lead to a meta focused on whatever can deal out the most damage efficiently. The game consists of just going through the motions rather than actual skill because the damage will kill people before they have the time to outplay you.
Crashyy (EUW)
: +9 adaptive force, 8 armor, 6 magic resist, 15-90 HP...It's boring.
I want my full armor & full pen pages back lol Yes please.
: Personal research about inting people
This is the 21st century. All speech is hate speech /s
Turzo (OCE)
: Will we get a new League Client?
Riot doesn't do "quality of life" In fact they barely "do anything" beyond throwing shit into the fire to stay warm.
: far better comps than relying on one single target champion to do everything. Jeweled Gauntlet + IE Syndra generates mana and kills FAR quicker than Ezreal. Brand almost gaurantees the kill on 5 out of 9. LeBlanc + IE + Gauntlet+ Runaan's kills faster than Ezreal with 2 Seraph. Ezreal is not Kha Zix with 2 Seraphs.
I'm not guaranteed to get any of those, but I hear you However... I do have an issue with that Syndra statement. How does she generate mana faster than instantaneously?
: Wth is that comp though?
You ever had a double seraphs Ezreal before?
Manxxom (NA)
: Now for the age old question..
I wish there was an after game stat for gold earned by towers & minions just to see how much gold got missed...
: I usually place my carry in the center back with tanks on the far sides, both with one space from the walls. The Assassins generally jump to those side units and buy time for my carry to kill shit Plus I usually have a Janna and Nami next to my carry for good measure.
i.e. https://imgur.com/20DUVEm
: why is her stun 3 seconds?
I usually place my carry in the center back with tanks on the far sides, both with one space from the walls. The Assassins generally jump to those side units and buy time for my carry to kill shit Plus I usually have a Janna and Nami next to my carry for good measure.
: ***
: I preferred everything before 4.20. Since then preseason hasn't been major balance adjustments, they've been change for the sake of change that fucked up the balance of the game more and more each season, with no corrections being made unless Riot didn't like something specific in the shitty metas they force on us.
I mean... I kinda liked silences being removed from assassins tho... Edit: Double checked and as long as its after 4.17, I'm down for that.
: Can we revert all the bullshit changes to runes/masteries/jungle/supports from the past 2 seasons ?
: As a 600k Soraka main the very existence of Senna is just a slap in the face
Should just - Nerf her base ability damage / Increase Ratios - Further decrease her base attack speed - Remove ally heal on Q / Keep self heal on Q / Remove or keep ally benefits on R - Remove Stack gains from simply hitting champions - Give her delayed CC the Xerath treatment, where the CC is only longer if hit from further away A kit like hers isn't possible to exist as a support and Riot was dumb enough to think so. imo she should just get removed from bot lane and sent to mid lane to be the AD Veigar option --- Edit: For Clarification The point of all the stuff listed above is To make her an AD caster, rather than an ADC-forced-to-look-like-a-support champion To give her a weak early with a stronger mid-late game via ratios [*] To make it so being a lane bully is less rewarding stacks-wise [*] And to make it so melees don't auto lose when they try to engage on her The last two [*] were especially in consideration for top lane --- She is toxic for top, adc, and sup. She can't really jungle (At least imo) Just balance her for mid lane and let us combo-less immobile fans have another champion.
Bârd (NA)
: The old Rune System wasn't perfect, but it was better than this.
I remember filling out most of the runes with magic pen + cdr for Malzahar or doing full armor for malphite among other things fun times
TheGrot (NA)
: Riot Should Remove JG Autofill
> [{quoted}](name=TheGrot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IdErbqB6,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-29T20:04:23.765+0000) > > Put 1 and 2 together, and you have a recipe for disaster when your jungler is the player that gets auto filled. ... Oh wait thats me. I can play any other role... Just not Jungle xD
: Idk. Explain why I got -10 for pointing out that it was all confirmation bias.
I mean... I don't mind downvotes. But at least say something lol
Saezio (EUNE)
: easier to win with them though. Nami Janna Raka especially have comparable pickrates to pyke and tons better win rate.
Easier? Sure. But its definitely not required in today's league of legends. A point that Hotarµ still doesn't seem to realize I'm talking about.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beacon Academy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1Un1Nnog,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2019-11-28T01:10:08.120+0000) > > "doesn't have many of the important things a conventional support has." > > If only you needed "conventional supports" to win... oh wait, nope. You realize that **Janna, Taric, Nautilus, Zyra, Soraka, Leona, Brand, Nami, Senna, Maokai, Vel'Koz, Zilean, Bard, Xerath, Sona, Morgana, Rakan, Lulu, Fiddlesticks, Thresh, Malphite, Lux, Karma, and Neeko** [**all surpass Pyke in terms of winrate, right?**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/support/silver/by-winrate) On average, they all win more games than him with the exception of those last few all doing so by a large margin. They are _**literally**_ statistically better than him. And that's pretty much universal, from Iron to Plat+.
tfw I have to point out that high winrates don't prove conventional supports are "needed to win"
Saezio (EUNE)
: Senna needs nerfs. And hard nerfs at that. Needs to be made unviable as Bot for once. Pyke was destroyed for being played top/mid by 0.5% players and most of them OTPs in high masters/challenger. Now senna has 55% winrate and 5,5% pickrate as ADC. I demand something is taken from her. Like, add to her passive "Senna only gains half ad from items" There fixed 100% last part is sarcasm obviously, but something needs to go. She is blatantly overperforiming for 1st patch of being released. Pyke never had such numbers and he was still gutted. Maybe make her gain 10 range per 30 souls or something, or give her a penalty on gathering souls too fast.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Pyke _was_ hit by the removal of Ancient Coin & Targon's allied healing, but he's always had much higher gold generation than the other supports. That's his thing. The offset is that he doesn't have many of the important things a conventional support has. Senna was designed with preseason and S10 in mind. Also, I'm not saying Senna is weak but it's not like she's running around dominating the entire game and no other support is viable. Thresh, Morgana, Blitz, Pyke, and a handful of other supports can still hold their own. __________ Edit: God, the amount of bias here is crazy. I feel the need to explain myself. **I'm not arguing whether or not Pyke is strong or weak at the moment** (although, since we're on the topic: if you look at any website from OP.GG to League of Graphs to Champion.GG, he _is_ in a much weaker state) but pointing out that he did suffer from the support item changes. OP claimed that he didn't get punished at all when he _did_, since his only form of allied healing was Targon's and he lost the advantage that Ancient Coin gave him. Whether you like Pyke or not does not matter: _The answer to OP's post is that he was hit by the removal of certain items._ The term "conventional" is referring to things like allied heals, allied shields, and reliable CC. While Pyke is in a lower state than before, I do not think he's unplayable or incredibly weak. My point is not to call attention to how strong Pyke's current kit may or may not be, but to bring attention to the fact that the things he _does_ have is not always what is needed and to show that he was hit by the support changes.
"doesn't have many of the important things a conventional support has." If only you needed "conventional supports" to win... oh wait, nope.
: Why Runes Reforged should be reverted to the Season 1-4 Runes+Masteries system
Old Runes & Masteries = Champion based game with bonus stats -> Skill Inclined Current Runes = Damage based game with mandatory damage effects -> Mechanics Inclined
: solo queue should be treated like TFT's ranked system tbh
Not sure why I got downvoted for simply thinking that reaching 100 LP should just move you up along with extra LP until you hit the master/grandmaster/challenger area :/
rawiazam1 (EUNE)
: is it me or does everyone's team goes to shit when they are in promos?
solo queue should be treated like TFT's ranked system tbh
Anhydrax (NA)
: Top lane is terrible in Preseason 10
Well Golly... Who could have seen this coming...? A couple one-time-use tower siege items should have been more important than #PERMANENT STAT BUFFS. /s
: I love League's characters but I don't like the gameplay
Strategy is effective in pro play, but irrelevant in solo queue due to lack of communication Tactics consist of decision making during teamfights for outplays, but high damage has shortened the window and therefore Tactics is no longer a factor (The big reason why I think Faker is struggling) That just leaves solo queue with mechanics, which is limited but accessible to everyone. The game literally just consist of people roaming around the map, blasting people with kit rotations, until one side loses morale.
Neriticc (EUW)
: Who actually thought the Elder Dragon execute is a good idea?
Probably a group of people who replaced the old people and therefore don't even know what league used to be like.
: MALZAHAR'S KNIFE
I think at first it was for sacrifices but then was given some backstory a couple years ago about how Malzahar used to make money off of strapping volunteers to a spinning wheel and using foresight to throw and miss them until one day he ended up killing someone. Apparently he keeps it around as a reminder or something.
: I think a Summoner's Rift-esque game mode for this would be a bad decision due to possible "team-up/truce" scenarios. However, if this was more like a Team Deathmatch-type mode then it'd be totally okay (like a point system and time limit). I'd say put it on the Dominion map and have it be 4v4v4 or 2v2v2v2v2 (6 teams). Have random relics in-between each starting point that grant all sorts of buffs and some sort of megabuff lying in the center of the map.
I think the small in-game politics would be interesting to see honestly.
: Aphelios (New Champion) Bio Dropped
Ima stay reserved in my opinion for now, but it feels like a sona fan and a kindred fan got into an argument over whether the next champion was going to be a jungle or support and mashed the both of them together into a feminine-looking-silent ADC with some spirit thing attached to him (lore-wise at least).
: Where's my support item as a melee tank support?
Just remember that when you play a non-damage support: #Thats actually illegal And you're just griefing /s
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