: All he does is E Q the wave and walk away repeatedly
> [{quoted}](name=DieHardDumpling,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UFAXUIbq,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:17:03.871+0000) > > All he does is E Q the wave and walk away repeatedly when you outplayed an enemy it doesn't feel rewarding now he is basically turned into a vigar, lux and morgana point and click and that's it I only see E Q thats it I use E W rarely since it is only good in certain situation. He is now has limited combos which is not satisfying when you hit them. I prefer high risk and low reward ryze means the old one not this BS no skill ryze.
: {{champion:13}} {{summoner:50}} I agree with you the new ryze it's a shit. Some streamer whit try him '' say he's good'' but bet they never played him..
> [{quoted}](name=JUD Le Toplaner,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UFAXUIbq,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-11T02:02:08.096+0000) > > {{champion:13}} {{summoner:50}} > I agree with you the new ryze it's a shit. > Some streamer whit try him '' say he's good'' but bet they never played him.. Ryze was supposed to be high risk and low reward champion is a sense that he should be hard to play champion who requires skills and the understanding of the game and now what I see they made ryze E Q champion that's it and basically now he just stand in the back and farm and wait for enemy team to group and baam E Q that's it no skill what so ever. And he have limited combos no satisfaction when you outplay with ryze now he seems so easy to play no learning curve anymore. BS Riot freaking Indy company
: What next level shit did Morgana get? Slightly bigger boobs? She's the same champion besides some zoom zoom on her ult. The fuck?
> [{quoted}](name=Morgana Deus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UFAXUIbq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-01T17:55:19.911+0000) > > What next level shit did Morgana get? Slightly bigger boobs? She's the same champion besides some zoom zoom on her ult. The fuck? i dont know if you understood the point i was making about the brokenness of the champions and for Morgana if you see how broken her bind and her ultimate is. The reason i made that point is to show instead Riot fixing the broken champions they trying to destroy Ryze as a high skill mage who requires combos unlike other mages who just point and click and boom the enemy is dead. Ryze requires dedication in terms of learning curve and an understanding of the game as well as his match ups. For example if I take Morgana into a game its a guaranteed that i will do good no matter how bad im in the game because of their easy to use kit. And in we see Ryze if you don't know how to play him then there's no way you'll do any good because of the understanding of his combos. That's why we dont want Ryze to become an easy to use champion which is he's not know for. He requires a great deal of understanding unlike other Mage champions. Im sure you'll understand my concerns regarding the new supposedly rework.
Thornś (NA)
: {{champion:13}} Yes I share the frustration. Ryze is losing his core identity in this iteration and he is getting nerfed across the board. I refuse to believe this will go through. It's just not fun. {{item:3070}}
> [{quoted}](name=Thornś,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UFAXUIbq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-01T06:33:32.871+0000) > > {{champion:13}} Yes I share the frustration. Ryze is losing his core identity in this iteration and he is getting nerfed across the board. I refuse to believe this will go through. It's just not fun. > > {{item:3070}} for all this time I tried to learn this Champ and now they decided to make him easy i mean seriously what are they thinking as compare to other reworks they seems not really interested in Ryze at all. And that makes me angry they removing his kit what ryze is known from. In every game Ryze has 50/50 chance on both ends hes not a snow bowling thats why i love him. Ryze is a champion with High Skill less reward especially in SOLO QUE. And so far what im reading on Twitter about the new update nobody is happy except hashinshin lol.
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