: If you are an ADC, unfortunately you are basically at the mercy of your support and/or teammates. The support generally dictates how bot lane goes and is the one who sets up kills either by hitting CC or poking the enemy ADC out of lane. It's possible for the ADC to do it, but I've maybe seen it happen 5 times in the 5 years I've played. Certain champions will have an easier time than others though. Lucian has a surprising amount of burst damage due to how his passive instantly procs PTA, so if you can poke with Q a bit, you might be able to get a sneaky kill. Draven is another with a ton of damage that no one really expects, plus since he tends to build BT first you'll have built in sustain to possible deal with however many teammates the enemy throws at you. Caitlyn is really strong right now and if you can get good with her trap placement, you can basically peel for yourself. She also has a combo that will kill if you do it properly, so if mastered you could probably get a few sneaky kills that way. Right now Senna is really strong, and with her passive making her stronger the more souls she gets, you could probably abuse people not knowing that mechanic to get stronger quickly, though they are nerfing her ADC potential next patch. Now, depending on how you play, you could always try playing a mage bot. Mages carry a lot of AOE power, so if your team is dumb, you still hold a ton of power. I play a lot of Brand support in low Elo because 1) you see so many all AD comps that very seldom does the enemy buy MR, 2) low elo teams seem to forget the Greivious Wounds exists despite the enemy team have Soraka, Mundo, and Vlad but Brand can easily get that as a 2nd item, and 3) Brand can literally solo carry a teamfight with a good R. The number of times the enemy team has caught me as a 1/5 Brand and I throw my RWE before dying to see them all be 40% hp after fighting a 1v5. If your team can't win when the enemy is less than half HP, then you probably weren't going to win anyway. That said, there are better mages to carry with if you are getting gold from CS. Cassio is really micro intensive but pumps out damage. Ryze as well is really strong and able to 1v5 essentially once you learn his combos. Viktor used to be seen bot a lot and a good Ziggs will demolish bot tower if the enemy ADC doesn't have good waveclear. Swain isn't quite as bursty as others but his E is basically the same range as most ADCs, so if you throw it while they CS you're almost guaranteed to land it which can let you get a kill or at least poke them out of lane. Syndra is just an ADC's worst nightmare as she out ranges them and can push the lane making them miss tons of CS. Obviously mages have weaknesses themselves, but if you are good, you should be able to play to your strength.
Ok so basically what you're saying is that riot needs to buff adcs or nerf burst? Or change the ranked system to reflect individual skill instead of making it team dependent?
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: How long ago was the punishment? Also even without the ranked rewards that just means you'll be able to get gold easier next season and maybe it'll be a way supah cooler skin.
A couple of weeks.. They said it takes about 500 games to get back to honor2
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: It’s almost as if you’re saying that, just to cover up the excuse that you can’t admit that you got clipped and that you are bad. Kappa.
I can win games the reason I built this way was to see if even going full tank builds you can survive spell rotations from champions.. And you cant.. So the games broken on every possible front. I wasn't weexpecting to carry, but I never ever should get one shot with a build like that. Ubless they have liek all their items done and are mega fed. Hell the lux killed me in the game where I started with hexdrinker and a kindle gem when she barely even had her support item done.. The games a full sham and items are a complete joke.. They need to nerf burst.. period.
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfjV1Xa6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-02T16:50:58.881+0000) > > I literally just played a lux in my last game. Match history is down that's why you are having problems seeing it. > > Why would I lie? Im not here to lie. .Im here to point fingers at this stupid ass balance team like everyone should be. > > Otherwise they will continue to make this game a meme. "why would I lie" I don't know... maybe due to the fact that people here don't see a single frozen mallet in your match history? the fact that you literally are saying things that are impossible to happen unless the champion in question is fed to stupid lvls? the fact that you constantly complain about damage while building little to no defensive items? the fact that you decide to leave out pretty much everything relevant like the items and lvls of EVERYONE involved? no jungler can one shot you at lvl 3 literally none. Unless you are almost dead so I guess that can count as a one shot?
Im saying one combo (spell rotation). Not one individual spell..
: You have no armor or mr... and complain about being "one shot"? What does berserkers greaves even do defensively? You cant just build 950 health and instantly become unkillable. Also looking at your past games at no point in your last 50 matches did you build mallet
I did one with ga tabi hex drinker and kindle gem.. still getting one shot by both support lux and hecarim combos. Defensive items are totally 100% useless which means that burst is 100% overbuffed.
: just saying you could lower your dps just a bit and put in deaths dance or wits end. you will survive alot more there i woulda kept frozen mallet though 700 hp is alot. i woulda sold the spear of shojin for wits not that you will get the fair amount.
Okay I know how to build correctly what Im saying is .. You cannot survive the burst right now even if you go a full defensive route. Burst is so ridiculously over tuned that they make all farming/scaling champions and items useless.. That's a problem that shouldn't have ever made it off of pbe. It never even should have made it to pbe bc a person hired to balance the game should have enough common sense to know it breaks the game.
: So a hecarim can kill you with 500 damage? One Q is enough to either deal your full health or 500 GA. Anything can look broken if you exaggerate it enough.
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfjV1Xa6,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-02T16:25:19.888+0000) > > I built hex just now early and a support lux can still one combo kill you. The defensive items are totally useless. sorry but that is literally impossible unless the Lux was crazy fed. Hell there isn't even a Lux in any of your current games from what I see so, nice try
I literally just played a lux in my last game. Match history is down that's why you are having problems seeing it. Why would I lie? Im not here to lie. .Im here to point fingers at this stupid ass balance team like everyone should be. Otherwise they will continue to make this game a meme.
: Why the heck are you building those items on a Vayne anyway? Nice troll build bruh.
It's a DPS game, so whether yo go full tank or onhit/crit you would technically do the same amount of damage if the items are balanced.. like a full tank vayne should kill a full dmage vayne at the same time if you have them start auto attacking at the same time..
: I agree about the damage part but what you’re saying makes no sense for reasons already posted
It makes perfect sense.. If a spell does say 400 damage and you buy 400 health you negate the spell with the health you just spent an item slot and gold on.
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfjV1Xa6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-02T15:58:17.455+0000) > > Maw doesnt protect you from one shot. yes it does, do you even know what Maw does? do you even know what the stats of Maw even are? it gives you a shield against magic damage and the MR it gives you further reduces the magic damage you take. It will help you survive against magic damage way more than building raw HP with no defenses whatsoever
I built hex just now early and a support lux can still one combo kill you. The defensive items are totally useless. I build ninja tabi and GA as well and a 4-0 hecarim can still kill you with q and ult. The games garbage right now, and riot should be ashamed of what they have let it become. The balance team should be fired, along with anyone else who hasn't noticed this massive flaw. If there is no protection from damage.. Thne building strait damage with early game burst champions results in an automatic win in 20 minutes or less.
musixxal (EUW)
: -no resistances -gets one shot -is surprised
Maw doesnt protect you from one shot.
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfjV1Xa6,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-02T15:15:45.762+0000) > > I just built {{item:3161}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3006}} and still got one shot by their {{champion:84}} and{{champion:126}} . > > The burst balancing in this game is beyond unacceptable.. Most everyone cannot stand the meta and state of the game with all the one shots. You either need to make items that have value, or take burst out. No MR so no wonder Akali clapped you. No Armor so no wonder Jayce clapped you.   If you're going to make a post like this, actually itemise correctly before whining.
itemize correctly? There is no correct item thats my fucking point. You build damage you die. .you build health you die.. You build mr and armor you die. This meta is a joke. Do you see anyone Building tank? Anyone at all? No you dont because the game is unbalanced. And taking items like this on an adc is the exact thing you need to do to see that the games not balanced.
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfjV1Xa6,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-02T15:15:45.762+0000) > > I just built {{item:3161}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3006}} and still got one shot by their {{champion:84}} and{{champion:126}} . > > The burst balancing in this game is beyond unacceptable.. Most everyone cannot stand the meta and state of the game with all the one shots. You either need to make items that have value, or take burst out. No MR so no wonder Akali clapped you. No Armor so no wonder Jayce clapped you.   If you're going to make a post like this, actually itemise correctly before whining.
So whats the point of health then? Its not like jayce and akali do percent health damage
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Hotarµ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8eYEyqez,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-10-09T23:09:13.808+0000) > > Again Im not trying to defend what I said.. I'm saying report baiters are out there. They were 100% baiting. _________ > [{quoted}](name=Botlane Kindred,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8eYEyqez,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2019-10-09T23:34:28.523+0000) > > As a specialist you should be aware that there are people in game trying to rage bait so they can report. I'm well aware that there are people like that. There are people like that all over the internet, in fact. People who just want to get a rise out of others for entertainment. That doesn't mean what you did wasn't against the rules, though.
I never said it wasn't against the rules? I just showed my chatlog to be transparent. You need to stop being so fixated on what I did.. I know why I was reported, but that's not the point I was making. . The reason I made the thread is to point out that hey.. I got baited into breaking the rules, and you need to be aware that no matter how tempted you are to address trolling, just dont.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >Botlane Kindred: YOU flamed me for asking our morgana who RELIES ON MANA to go get mana Botlane Kindred: fckingchildren Botlane Kindred: this is wy noneof you have jobs Botlane Kindred: bc ur babies Botlane Kindred: u must be a shit lawyer bc u canteven defend yourself in char >Botlane Kindred: they are dicks Botlane Kindred: and they feed Botlane Kindred: liberals haha You didn't _just_ "say something about someone not having mana." You spent the large majority of this game arguing back and forth with your teammates and occasionally insulting them ("fckingchildren" and "they are dicks, liberals haha") In the future, just mute people and report them at the end of the game instead of letting it derail the entire game.
As a specialist you should be aware that there are people in game trying to rage bait so they can report.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: For the next time I recommend **actually** saying "pls get some mana", rather than starting it off with a passive aggressive comment and a needlessly bossing people around by telling them what they "need" to do. And most importantly: If they don't listen to you, let it go. Don't continue to blame them for everything. Don't start a fight. And don't engage in a fight **even if they start it.** Even though the tone of your remarks regarding Morgana's mana were unnecessarily passive aggressive, that's not the real problem here. The bigger problem was your constant fighting, blaming and insulting, which regardless of what they did or said clearly violated the rules. Lying about what you actually said likely didn't help, either.
Next time Im not saying anything. .I disabled my chat after this happened. I thought I was clever enough to not be baited, but they worked me over.. Better to just disable team and all chat, and play the game.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >Botlane Kindred: YOU flamed me for asking our morgana who RELIES ON MANA to go get mana Botlane Kindred: fckingchildren Botlane Kindred: this is wy noneof you have jobs Botlane Kindred: bc ur babies Botlane Kindred: u must be a shit lawyer bc u canteven defend yourself in char >Botlane Kindred: they are dicks Botlane Kindred: and they feed Botlane Kindred: liberals haha You didn't _just_ "say something about someone not having mana." You spent the large majority of this game arguing back and forth with your teammates and occasionally insulting them ("fckingchildren" and "they are dicks, liberals haha") In the future, just mute people and report them at the end of the game instead of letting it derail the entire game.
Again Im not trying to defend what I said.. I'm saying report baiters are out there. They were 100% baiting.
rujitra (NA)
: No, that’s not how it works. You were given the level of punishment you were because of your history of bad behavior. Players do not skip punishment tiers except for extremely specific behaviors that are very bad. And people don’t go down tiers except by displaying good behavior over time. Further, there’s a much better way to do this - having self control and acting like an adult.
I dont have a history of bad behavior this was a one time/ first time occurrence..
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: For the next time I recommend **actually** saying "pls get some mana", rather than starting it off with a passive aggressive comment and a needlessly bossing people around by telling them what they "need" to do. And most importantly: If they don't listen to you, let it go. Don't continue to blame them for everything. Don't start a fight. And don't engage in a fight **even if they start it.** Even though the tone of your remarks regarding Morgana's mana were unnecessarily passive aggressive, that's not the real problem here. The bigger problem was your constant fighting, blaming and insulting, which regardless of what they did or said clearly violated the rules. Lying about what you actually said likely didn't help, either.
They were trolling before and after I said something, so I was being a little passive aggressive to make her know I knew she was doing something shady. I totally fell for their bait. They were like professional report baiters. They probably do this all the time in flex.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >Botlane Kindred: YOU flamed me for asking our morgana who RELIES ON MANA to go get mana Botlane Kindred: fckingchildren Botlane Kindred: this is wy noneof you have jobs Botlane Kindred: bc ur babies Botlane Kindred: u must be a shit lawyer bc u canteven defend yourself in char >Botlane Kindred: they are dicks Botlane Kindred: and they feed Botlane Kindred: liberals haha You didn't _just_ "say something about someone not having mana." You spent the large majority of this game arguing back and forth with your teammates and occasionally insulting them ("fckingchildren" and "they are dicks, liberals haha") In the future, just mute people and report them at the end of the game instead of letting it derail the entire game.
Yeah I now Im not asking for defense of my actions. I posted my chat to Be totally clear that yeah I was baited, and I was mean, and I deserve a mute.. I Edited my og post with a headline so future readers get why I posted it.
rujitra (NA)
: You continually argued with and flamed people for the entire game. Obviously this isn’t acceptable behavior.
Yeah I get that, i never said it wasn't. I'm advising other players not to get baited by people like this... This is why you Mute ALL. If this game was reviewed I can assure you I would get a chat restriction and the 4 players on my team would be permanently banned for what they did
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: FIX RANKED
I started having inters my vvery next game, and then jus started inting myself.. No longer will I waste my time trying when people are playing like pure cancerous shit Look at this Im silver and ur giving me iron teammates.. this is incorrect and broken https://gyazo.com/a248588a55695638e970b3e558499a47
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