Comentários de Rioters
: Increase Kai'sa Ult range and give CDR for Kill/Assist
Oh you want to buff the champ with one of the highest winrates for botlane across all levels and give her even more utility? What a fucking great idea.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheBrothersGrymm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hZYdKZIo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-08T10:06:43.990+0000) > > ban smurfs all together only 1 account should be allowed sadly not possible
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hZYdKZIo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-08T12:54:56.665+0000) > > sadly not possible Incredibly possible, Riot has all of our IP addresses, that's how they knew to unban my hijacked account that got perma'd for using 3rd party software. One account per person. IP + MAC address = one account per computer. There might be some degenerates willing to spend 100-1000 dollars every time they want to level a smurf, but probably not many. Get them out.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001e00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T23:07:37.875+0000) > > Yeah and we should take away the voting rights of all immigrants too. Same difference. First of all, you aren't one of these brand new people who came to the boards so you should know that this sort of comment is prohibited by the rules. Secondly, this is not an election, thus it's nowhere near the "same difference" (which is an oxymoron, by the way).
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001e000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T23:21:52.413+0000) > > First of all, you aren't one of these brand new people who came to the boards so you should know that this sort of comment is prohibited by the rules. > > Secondly, this is not an election, thus it's nowhere near the "same difference" (which is an oxymoron, by the way). I'm drawing a parallel. So what if he had people make accounts to vote their agreement for him. That's democracy. If everyone agrees with him it shouldn't matter.
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001e0000,timestamp=2019-07-06T07:05:38.796+0000) > > I actually highly doubt the vote was manipulated. He's a french streamer with thousands of viewers. He asked his viewers to upvote it. You're assuming people visited this thread over time, when in fact, they all went here as soon as he made it. That's why they call it vote manipulation.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatsDelicious,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001e00000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T07:23:03.106+0000) > > He's a french streamer with thousands of viewers. He asked his viewers to upvote it. You're assuming people visited this thread over time, when in fact, they all went here as soon as he made it. > That's why they call it vote manipulation. So he told people about his poll and asked them to vote and because they all agreed with him this is "vote manipulation"? I wonder if it'd be "vote manipulation" if Rito agreed with his stance. "Democracy Manifest" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgL-eR2oAa0
Serrgol (EUW)
: rammus dmg is really broken and riot need to do their job better
Rammus already got nerfed. Rammus is perfectly fine in his current state, he's a hyper carry counter; yi, ADC, Yas, etc. If you want to delete him, play AP.
Lęmon (NA)
: Kai'sa keeps getting so many skins, what about Kalista..?
They nerf'd Kalista and Kai'sa is buff right now. Do the math. No one but one-tricks are going to buy a skin for a weak and useless champ. This is Rito's business model. Give a champ a few steroids, drop skins for a few months until people complain, revert the changes or nerf in some other way, rinse, repeat.
: Voting has been disabled due to vote manipulation.
> [{quoted}](name=DaenrysTargaryen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2019-07-06T06:04:41.215+0000) > > Voting has been disabled due to vote manipulation. YOU CAN'T SUBVERT THIS THREAD. NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR BULLSHIT. 125 PEOPLE VIEWED THIS THREAD EVERY 5 MINUTES FOR THE LAST 2 HOURS. THE VOTES WERE PROBABLY LEGIT. THIS IS ONE OF THE HOTTEST THREADS ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF CLICKS. MODS NEED TO STOP BEING SUBVERSIVE OR THEY NEED TO BE FED TO BARON
: I mean the post is quite relevant, however, uh, I don't agree with vote manipulation. Bad move dude.
> [{quoted}](name=DODGEORLOSE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jqZcRpHB,comment-id=001e,timestamp=2019-07-06T06:49:49.453+0000) > > I mean the post is quite relevant, however, uh, I don't agree with vote manipulation. Bad move dude. I actually highly doubt the vote was manipulated. This thread has over 2k views in 2 hours. Meaning that 125 people have viewed this thread every 5 minutes (roughly) If everyone voted who viewed the thread then it would have reached those numbers. Rioters are just trying to subvert valid threads and valid points to prevent the player base from rebelling against them.
: Balance is not real but an illusion.
Pretty sure every other moba besides league could be called, in some way, balanced. Dota 2 has actual counter picking that has relevant consequences to the game as well as incredibly situational itemization to deal with certain threats, IE faceless void is countered by Eul's Scepter which out lasts his bubble. Invisible champions like Riki are countered by a spirit breaker carrying dust or a gem of true sight. Smite is relatively balanced considering *everything* is a skill shot. HotS is balanced, HON is balanced, etc etc etc. All these games are relatively okay and nothing ever feels "cheap", a phantom assassin in Dota 2 late game 1 shotting the entire team with a single crit doesn't feel "cheap" because she's so item reliant and kill reliant it takes forever for her to come online. Balance isn't an illusion, league is just a shit show.
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5UxBcVXh,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T18:20:06.458+0000) > > No it's not. Honorable opponent has nothing to do with a players behaviour generally. The clue is in the name, genius; "Honorable Opponent", it has nothing to do with anything other than an opponent being honorable. Sorry, but it in fact DOES. Being honorable as a whole means, you are being a decent player, a decent human being. You are following the rules, you're not getting tilted, you're not blaming your team when something goes wrong, you take fault for your own actions, ect. If we cannot see some of those things, how can we know if someone is truly being honorable?
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5UxBcVXh,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T18:26:15.052+0000) > > Sorry, but it in fact DOES. Being honorable as a whole means, you are being a decent player, a decent human being. You are following the rules, you're not getting tilted, you're not blaming your team when something goes wrong, you take fault for your own actions, ect. If we cannot see some of those things, how can we know if someone is truly being honorable? Yeah, you're not getting it... Let me spell it out for you. Being an honorable opponent and being an honorable player are two different things. Being an honorable opponent and being an honorable teammate are two different things. Column A doesn't affect column B. They're two, independent and completely unrelated, concepts that have nothing to do with one another. Hitler is a perfect example of this. An honorable opponent, truly a saint on the battlefield. He could have decimated the British retreat at Dunkirk BUT ordered his soldiers to allow the English to retreat, truly an honorable and fair move on the battlefield and the fact that Dunkirk ended the way it ended is the single highest contributing factor as to why Germany couldn't secure air superiority over the English Channel... His honor and charity in battle contributed to Germany's ultimate defeat. I say that all with the point... would *you* call Adolf Hitler an "honorable man" in general? Probably not, but he was an honorable enemy and treated the opposing armies with respect and dignity and charity. Similarly. I don't care what's going on in the other team's chat. I don't give a shit. If someone is flaming and screaming and blaming their team to hell and back... BUT I see him try-harding to win and doing everything right and not giving up despite being behind, I'll honor his tenacity and persistence and determination, I don't have to honor his entire moral character, if he's a determined enemy and willing to make plays and try instead of giving up and surrendering, I will honor him. If the other team is saying, in all chat; "OMG report X and Y for not surrendering" I'll honor one of them even if they have the personality of Adolf Hitler otherwise, because that's what it comes down to; I don't give a fuck what they say or whether they're "toxic" or not, ultimately I'll honor an enemy if they play hard enough to make me want to be on their team next game whether they're winning or losing this round.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5UxBcVXh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T18:02:47.195+0000) > > Because I don't give a fuck about how big a douche they were, if they played well against me or carried their team, or were in any way shape or form honorable from my perspective I'll honor them. I've had many games where I wish i could honor an enemy either for being friendly in all-chat or for being fun to lane against. And this is the problem. Honor is designed for people who aren’t douches. Not people who just weren’t douches in all chat.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5UxBcVXh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T18:07:55.494+0000) > > And this is the problem. Honor is designed for people who aren’t douches. Not people who just weren’t douches in all chat. No it's not. Honorable opponent has nothing to do with a players behaviour generally. The clue is in the name, genius; "Honorable Opponent", it has nothing to do with anything other than an opponent being honorable.
rujitra (NA)
: How can you reliably honor an opponent when you can't see the majority of their chat/actions?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5UxBcVXh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-05T17:41:27.061+0000) > > How can you reliably honor an opponent when you can't see the majority of their chat/actions? Because I don't give a fuck about how big a douche they were, if they played well against me or carried their team, or were in any way shape or form honorable from my perspective I'll honor them. I've had many games where I wish i could honor an enemy either for being friendly in all-chat or for being fun to lane against.
: I leave toxic games because my mental health is more important than your stupidity
This is why Hitler was wrong to target eastern europeans and gypsies... he should have targeted anyone with a tumblr account. "MUH FEELZ GUYS", get fucked.
: No, one tricks can get into challenger with 80+ % winrates. At every level of solo queue up until near the top, people are so bad at spacing, damage foresight and have so many dubious elements in their decision making "Flow chart" that if you were playing properly (Not executing perfectly but giving an honest effort to do the right things) the matchup wouldn't even matter. If you have a problem getting "rock paper scissored" on, just learn the fundamentals. It's really not a big deal for you. And that is one of the beautiful things about modern league. This isn't DotA, solo queue "counter picks" are almost a meme until 800 lp challenger.
> [{quoted}](name=1 516 735 3508,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AQcKP48q,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-05T00:25:33.435+0000) > > No, one tricks can get into challenger with 80+ % winrates. At every level of solo queue up until near the top, people are so bad at spacing, damage foresight and have so many dubious elements in their decision making "Flow chart" that if you were playing properly (Not executing perfectly but giving an honest effort to do the right things) the matchup wouldn't even matter. If you have a problem getting "rock paper scissored" on, just learn the fundamentals. It's really not a big deal for you. > > And that is one of the beautiful things about modern league. > > This isn't DotA, solo queue "counter picks" are almost a meme until 800 lp challenger. You're wrong. Play Renekton V Quinn at any rank. You're off your nut, actually... even mechanically bad players have their game handicapped for them by playing counterpicks, they make their lane easier.
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=omqIVwOb,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T18:00:12.981+0000) > > LMAO No they're not. They're "fighters", Bruisers and Juggernauts are two different subclass of fighter, same with divers and skirmishers etc. I understand your confusion, Rito keeps fucking around with the class definitions. Eeeeeerm, no, it seems you are the confused one here. There is no such subclass as "bruisers". People are using the term bruisers for the entire fighters class, which consists of divers and juggernauts. Both these subclasses are bruisers. Divers don't share their class with skirmishers, you are confusing this with assassins. Assassins and skirmishers together build the "slayers" class.
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=omqIVwOb,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T18:15:12.567+0000) > > Eeeeeerm, no, it seems you are the confused one here. > > There is no such subclass as "bruisers". People are using the term bruisers for the entire fighters class, which consists of divers and juggernauts. Both these subclasses are bruisers. > > Divers don't share their class with skirmishers, you are confusing this with assassins. Assassins and skirmishers together build the "slayers" class. I never said divers and skirmishers were the same. And by your definition Diana counts as a buiser, and you'd be an absolute spastic to consider Diana a bruiser. Draw a line in the sand. Bruisers are any champ that doesn't fit into any other class. Xin, Jax, Tryn, Camille, etc. You can't call them juggernauts, you can't call them duelists/skirmishers, you can't call them anything but bruiser.. Now... with Darius, Nasus, Garen, Urgot, etc you can *only* call them Juggernaut.
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=omqIVwOb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T17:10:21.954+0000) > > LOL! No. Literally every bruiser has been relegated to the jungle. Jax, Xin, Hec, Camille, etc. Have *all* been forced into the jungle to try to maintain some level of relevance because lane bullies like Darius and brick-shit houses like Garen become untouchable after level 3-4 and after level 7 end up just keeping you permanently up against your tower, and for *some* reason, and it's probably some sort of axiom, your jungler will NEVER gank when your lane opponent has you pushed up against your tower for 10 minutes, but the enemy jungle will gank the moment you push up to the river. Top has been a juggernaut lane for years, Nasus, Darius, Garen, Urgot, Illaoi, in that order. I'd say 60-70% of my top games are against either Nasus or Darius. They're juggernauts. Not bruisers. You realise that juggernauts are bruisers, too, don't you?
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=omqIVwOb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T17:27:37.117+0000) > > You realise that juggernauts are bruisers, too, don't you? LMAO No they're not. They're "fighters", Bruisers and Juggernauts are two different subclass of fighter, same with divers and skirmishers etc. I understand your confusion, Rito keeps fucking around with the class definitions.
NY64 (NA)
: I thought bruisers were already dominating top lane for the past year or 2
> [{quoted}](name=NY64,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=omqIVwOb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-04T17:01:35.509+0000) > > I thought bruisers were already dominating top lane for the past year or 2 LOL! No. Literally every bruiser has been relegated to the jungle. Jax, Xin, Hec, Camille, etc. Have *all* been forced into the jungle to try to maintain some level of relevance because lane bullies like Darius and brick-shit houses like Garen become untouchable after level 3-4 and after level 7 end up just keeping you permanently up against your tower, and for *some* reason, and it's probably some sort of axiom, your jungler will NEVER gank when your lane opponent has you pushed up against your tower for 10 minutes, but the enemy jungle will gank the moment you push up to the river. Top has been a juggernaut lane for years, Nasus, Darius, Garen, Urgot, Illaoi, in that order. I'd say 60-70% of my top games are against either Nasus or Darius. They're juggernauts. Not bruisers.
: I was wondering what the longest skin name would be
Battle Academia Lux Prestige Edition's font on the loading screen is so small it's barely readable lmao.
Comentários de Rioters
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8I6Y7l6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T05:31:41.833+0000) > > Look dude, it's obvious you're a Garen main, just like everyone who says ADC is dying, omg bruisers taking over bot lane omg plz nrf rito plz, are all ADC mains who collectively nurse on doublelift's stream-teet and parrot everything he says. Just like every assassin main demands their champ be an unstoppable killing machine that 100-0s a 7kHP sion. > > Your idea is bad. It's a terrible idea. Garen already has a 51% winrate (https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/garen) and the obnoxiously absurd levels of buffs you're proposing would have him skyrocket to a 60-65% winrate, and that's a conservative estimate. You're basically saying "Lets smush Xin and Darius and Asol into one champ and have his cooldowns basically not exist" > A 1.5 second cooldown sounds like some fucking ret**rded Naruto shit where Garen would throw stuns at everyone in a teamfight and then R his way to pentakills every game. > > Your idea is fucking insane and I refuse to believe a sober mind could conjure up such an absurd thought. 1) I am not a garen main, I never played him except in aram in over 17000 games since before season 1. 2) winrates denote NOTHING about the objective strength of a champion. They only suggest questions which can be either theory crafted or explored to figure out WHY things are performing as they are and THAT explains the strength of a champion. Garen's objectively weak right now. 3) I am sober and didn't so much as drink in more than 30 years.
> [{quoted}](name=1 516 735 3508,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8I6Y7l6,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T05:34:14.137+0000) > > 1) I am not a garen main, I never played him except in aram in over 17000 games since before season 1. > > 2) winrates denote NOTHING about the objective strength of a champion. They only suggest questions which can be either theory crafted or explored to figure out WHY things are performing as they are and THAT explains the strength of a champion. Garen's objectively weak right now. > > 3) I am sober and didn't so much as drink in more than 30 years. *never played him except in ARAM* https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=1+516+735+3508+ https://imgur.com/xl4tUj4
: ahri rework idea! (still not too developed so dont flame me for lack of details)
I found the Ahri main. Why the fuck do people want reworks which basically delete champions from the game. Why not just ask for a new champ? Like a man version of Ahri or something.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8I6Y7l6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-04T04:32:13.174+0000) > > So... Xin Zhao ult on a basic ability, give a Juggernaut hard CC that is up more often the more they land it, and give a % missing health magic/true damage execute a _cooldown_ if they ult someone who's been hit by the hard CC? > > No thanks. It's just way too much. It's still objectively a good idea and would serve as a better answer to sejuani than the nerfing her bandaid fix is ;)
> [{quoted}](name=1 516 735 3508,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8I6Y7l6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T04:33:08.176+0000) > > It's still objectively a good idea and would serve as a better answer to sejuani than the nerfing her bandaid fix is ;) Look dude, it's obvious you're a Garen main, just like everyone who says ADC is dying, omg bruisers taking over bot lane omg plz nrf rito plz, are all ADC mains who collectively nurse on doublelift's stream-teet and parrot everything he says. Just like every assassin main demands their champ be an unstoppable killing machine that 100-0s a 7kHP sion. Your idea is bad. It's a terrible idea. Garen already has a 51% winrate (https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/garen) and the obnoxiously absurd levels of buffs you're proposing would have him skyrocket to a 60-65% winrate, and that's a conservative estimate. You're basically saying "Lets smush Xin and Darius and Asol into one champ and have his cooldowns basically not exist" A 1.5 second cooldown sounds like some fucking ret**rded Naruto shit where Garen would throw stuns at everyone in a teamfight and then R his way to pentakills every game. Your idea is fucking insane and I refuse to believe a sober mind could conjure up such an absurd thought.
: Garen rework idea
>If garen ult kills an enemy stunned by his W the ult cooldown is refunded Are you on fucking crack? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Reksee (NA)
: Is Qiyana's winrate just another case of people getting used to a new champion?
No, she's generally a trash champ with a horrible early game in lane, and a subpar jungle. Her kit is good, she's just.... kinda garbage. Her ganking potential is trash even with invisibility... Kayn, Shaco, and even Twitch do invis better. For her ice/stun thing, Sej does it better. Her whole kit is like 4-5 champs all rolled into one. She's the Red Mage of league, can do lot of stuff good and can do nothing well. I ban her just to keep idiots on my team from playing her.
: Hidden first choice
I support this post. Especially considering I've been getting first pick countered in the last approximately 60-75% of games for the past 10ish games. I dodge about half of them.
Comentários de Rioters
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: why weren't you complaining when you had the win streak? familiarize yourself with the martingale problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DntEoGG7RyY
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KBLnXExF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-03T13:41:40.806+0000) > > why weren't you complaining when you had the win streak? > > familiarize yourself with the martingale problem > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DntEoGG7RyY I don't care about losing. What I care about is the apparent "oh, you're doing well and climbing? Let me give you first pick 80% of the time and match you with 2-3 feeding ret**rds" switch that goes off. I don't mind losing games when I've got something to be proud of anyway, or a team that tries to pull together. That isn't the case. I'm complaining about loss streaks in games that feel completely unwinnable, being matched with people in ranked consistently who try to GG at 15, and people who end up going 0-7 by 12 minutes. Once is an event, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern. I don't believe for a second that the staggering amount of queues I've been put as first pick, about 70-80%, and the caliber of players I've been matched with in this loss streak, has nothing to do with the winstreak I was on a few days ago. One shit game, maybe two in a row, I can understand that... but this is like night and day. I was winning games with competent teams who communicated, who pinged, who played safe, who did their jobs... then like magic, I'm playing with absolute degenerates. I don't even know why I'm replying to you, to be honest. It's so fucking obvious what people like you do here. You're missing the fucking point I was making and I'd be you're doing it purposely.
Comentários de Rioters
: Please Riot, these Renek and Kled changes are terrible for toplane. What are u doing?
Every top laner has been relegated to the jungle. Top is a juggernaut lane now. I'm extremely bitter about it, but I've finally resigned myself to playing champs I hate in the role I love.... I'm not Hashinshin... I can't keep a win-rate playing bruisers top when they wet noodle the meta picks at level 3 or 4...
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HI7AaAdY,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2019-07-02T17:54:09.410+0000) > > Mundo, Darius, Trundle, Urgot, Illaoi, Shyvana and Volibear aren't designed to be, or really even effective at being carries. some of them like nasus, udyr and trundle are supposed to be very powerful in 1v1 situations and at running down single targets. darius, and illaoi are literally designed to take on multiple enemies at the same time. just like marksmen a lot of them tend to need support, only to overcome kiting instead of staying at range. > When you think brute force, these champions should come to mind: powerful, durable, immobile and melee. They’re League’s hulking titans who, come late game, turn into super tanky carries who’ll pretty much destroy anyone foolish enough to get in their way. this is from riots own blog post for the juggernaut update. not supposed to be carries my ass. just because some of them arent very effective at being carries, doesnt mean they arent supposed to be. just as in any class of champions, some are stronger and have more effective kits than others. morde is a carry, darius is a carry, garen is supposed to be ab anti-carry who carries his own team by taking down the strongest enemy on the field.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HI7AaAdY,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-02T19:21:01.362+0000) > > some of them like nasus, udyr and trundle are supposed to be very powerful in 1v1 situations and at running down single targets. > > darius, and illaoi are literally designed to take on multiple enemies at the same time. > > just like marksmen a lot of them tend to need support, only to overcome kiting instead of staying at range. > > this is from riots own blog post for the juggernaut update. > > not supposed to be carries my ass. just because some of them arent very effective at being carries, doesnt mean they arent supposed to be. just as in any class of champions, some are stronger and more effective kits than others. > > morde is a carry, darius is a carry, garen is supposed to be ab anti-carry who carries his own team by taking down the strongest enemy on the field. Then riot should just delete 95% of their roster and everyone should play adc and juggernaut. Join my discord so I can tell you exactly what I think of you without getting banned from the forums. https://discord.gg/frcFKCA
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HI7AaAdY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-02T14:16:53.993+0000) > > No, juggernauts should be midgame champs, not powerful at every stage of the game. Their early game should suck and they should fall off late game. this would be the most useless class ever in existence. how are you supposed to spike midgame with a terrible early game? why would you not literally play any other type of champion? even if you defeat all the odds and manage to get the ball rolling and become an actual champion midgame, you still fall off late game? i could just play jax, camille and irelia and have a shitty early game thats at least rewarded with a decent midgame and really powerful lategame. juggernauts are carries. there is no reason they shouldnt scale. and garen is a special case even among juggernauts. you literally cherry picked the only champion in that class who doesnt have any feasable source of in combat sustain and gets all the defense frontloaded instead. on top of that, he doesnt even have a single ranged ability, and has even more power budget pushed into defense as a result. if he was able to get away from a 1v3, then he was either already fed and multiple levels ahead, and/or burned flash while he was already close to his team or turret.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HI7AaAdY,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-02T16:27:47.444+0000) > > this would be the most useless class ever in existence. > > how are you supposed to spike midgame with a terrible early game? why would you not literally play any other type of champion? > > > even if you defeat all the odds and manage to get the ball rolling and become an actual champion midgame, you still fall off late game? > > i could just play jax, camille and irelia and have a shitty early game thats at least rewarded with a decent midgame and really powerful lategame. > > juggernauts are carries. there is no reason they shouldnt scale. and garen is a special case even among juggernauts. you literally cherry picked the only champion in that class who doesnt have any feasable source of in combat sustain and gets all the defense frontloaded instead. on top of that, he doesnt even have a single ranged ability, and has even more power budget pushed into defense as a result. > > if he was able to get away from a 1v3, then he was either already fed and multiple levels ahead, and/or burned flash while he was already close to his team or turret. Hurr durrrr "Juggernauts are carries" That's where you're wrong friendo. Besides one or two exceptions, Juggernauts are not carries. Mundo, Darius, Trundle, Urgot, Illaoi, Shyvana and Volibear aren't designed to be, or really even effective at being carries. At best, juggernauts should be peelers or otherwise some form of frontline initiator. Garen, Morde and Nasus are the only exceptions to this rule and frankly you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're clearly not a top main and clearly have no understanding of the lane dynamics right now. Top lane bruisers have been pushed out of their lane by juggernauts who make them completely irrelevant from level 2 to end game. There's absolutely no reason for a juggernaut to have both insane stats for health and armor as well as insane stats for damage. Period.
: Just kill her already...
Who the fuck are you talking about?
: How to (unironically) fix league
>They are like this now. Not at lvl1, but come on, this is lvl1, you are not supposed to oneshot anything at lvl1 No it's not. ADCs running around with 2.5-3k HP at level 18 with enough sustain to face tank everything. >Because tryndamere definitely can't be unkillable by 3 man ganks Irrelevant example gets an irrelevant response. I main tryn, that's why it was my example. It applies to other champs too. >So we have whole class of glass cannon no-damage no-mobility no-utility champions? No, juggernauts should be midgame champs, not powerful at every stage of the game. Their early game should suck and they should fall off late game. >Stackable tenacity is cancer. Oh, but this comes from a tryndamere player, ok Why is it cancer? It's counterplay when you're playing against a team of 5 with 12 CC skills. Why the fuck does every single champ get some form of CC now? Literally everything has CC. >More like ...so that snowballed teams no longer have a comeback option. That makes zero sense.
: How to (unironically) fix league
Literally who the fuck would downvote my post other than an ADC main.
: pant is fine, reworking is not necessary
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeAxel123,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ObIF5mIr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T04:44:12.190+0000) > > pant is fine, reworking is not necessary Dunno why you got downvoted. Most champs are "fine" and none needed reworks. Riot just wants their ((((micro-transactions))))) and their dirty skin money. That's all.
KataOrPizza (EUNE)
: about the ranked and lb
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=I Like Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EJ2MkqHh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-02T03:00:52.505+0000) > > irrelevant comment So is this post tbf.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EJ2MkqHh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-02T04:18:17.938+0000) > > So is this post tbf. You're not clever. Don't subvert the premise with your passive aggression. His post is 100% correct. Find me one person who thinks the RNG little legends isn't a money grubbing cash grab. Find me ONE. Everything riot does including which champs are strong, is all about artificially inflating a pool of a select few champs then pumping out skins until people complain for a few months about how broken they are. Then they do it to another champion. Notice how Jihn is killing it and got a new skin? Notice how Lux and Cait and Akali are the ones with prestige skins? Yeah, I don't see Oriana getting new skins. You're irrelevant.
Nyamı (NA)
: LITTLE LEGENDS PLUSHES
Why the hell would I give this degenerate company money. Stop feeding the man who poisons you in your sleep.
: They killed all the fun in the role when they nerfed jungle xp.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EvAUAMQA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T05:51:46.239+0000) > > They killed all the fun in the role when they nerfed jungle xp. ^ This. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when support is more popular than jungle. But I'd be willing to reckon that top lane is creeping in as the most unwanted role.
Destaice (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Kt12rR7A,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-02T05:34:35.844+0000) > > I don't understand why people give a shit about toxicity in a game with so many balance issues. Why is so much effort put into dealing with "toxicity" and relatively zero effort is put into dealing with the balance issues. Because a game is first and foremost supposed to be an enjoyable experience and a toxic community completely destroys that experience.
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Kt12rR7A,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-02T05:36:18.478+0000) > > Because a game is first and foremost supposed to be an enjoyable experience and a toxic community completely destroys that experience. Nah, you're in control of your feelings and the things you take personally. In the last month I think I've experienced a handful of actual intentional feeders. The real problem with this game is the unbalanced nightmare, the russian roulette ranked queues, especially if you're a top main, constantly asking yourself "is that their ADC? Or are they taking it top... do I need to play off meta for this? No... no... just play your main, it's definitely not their top.... oh... garen... I guess I'll get my shit pushed in for 15 minutes because his armor scales so hard I'm just slapping him with a pool noodle... great..." The unbalanced hellscape that is the rift creates a LOT of the toxicity you're complaining about. People are locked into a game with 9 other people that they can't leave no matter what without risking a ban. The whole game breeds "toxicity", what could have been an "enjoyable" 30 minutes turns into a fucking nightmare when velk off-meta adcs and completely deletes your adc, support and jungler at level 6 and the spiral begins. 100? 200? 500? 1000 games like that is enough to make anyone "toxic" Seriously. League is like being forced to chaperone a 10 year old kid's birthday party. There's 9 kids running around screaming their heads off, they're throwing cake everywhere, all over your house, they're breaking shit, they're completely trashing the place, but you can't hit them, you'd to to jail for hitting a minor. You can't leave, you'd go to jail for child neglect. You're stuck there... there is no escape.... so you bottle it up. Now imagine it's your job and you can't quit because the economy is so fucked if you quit you'll never find another job, you're stuck there looking after 10 year old little shits, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 365 days a year. One day they're going to read about that guy driving his car into an orphanage. That's league. A prison you can't escape without getting banned. A prison you can't vent in without getting banned or a 10-25 game chat restriction. GG bruh
: People demonize Lyte but honestly, at least he tried to deal with toxicity in this community
I don't understand why people give a shit about toxicity in a game with so many balance issues. Why is so much effort put into dealing with "toxicity" and relatively zero effort is put into dealing with the balance issues.
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: How to fix league
-jungle camps grant no exp and 50% less gold. Junglers are too strong right now. They should have to back after every camp and clear the jungle twice before getting any exp. -just remove all bruisers from the game -add even more mages with support kits
: It's called TACTICS, not STRATEGY. You guys are playing the wrong game...this isn't a strategy game, it's more akin to a deck-building game. Deck building games are one part building, and two parts luck of what you can get at any point of the game. Yes, it's "random based", but that "random base" is kind of like playing Ascension - you buy the cards out of the middle, and you get what you get. I hope that helps you re-envision your goals here. This isn't as simple as "I'm building Wild/Shapeshifter/Sorcerer!" It's "what can I do with what I have available? I can upgrade Morde, so maybe I should go for knights. I can also put a Rageblade and PD on this Kassadin, so maybe I can push for Void or Sorcerer. If I can get a Karthus..."
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Zvhx1YOx,comment-id=000300020000,timestamp=2019-07-01T12:56:05.982+0000) > > It's called TACTICS, not STRATEGY. > > You guys are playing the wrong game...this isn't a strategy game, it's more akin to a deck-building game. Deck building games are one part building, and two parts luck of what you can get at any point of the game. > > Yes, it's "random based", but that "random base" is kind of like playing Ascension - you buy the cards out of the middle, and you get what you get. > > I hope that helps you re-envision your goals here. This isn't as simple as "I'm building Wild/Shapeshifter/Sorcerer!" It's "what can I do with what I have available? I can upgrade Morde, so maybe I should go for knights. I can also put a Rageblade and PD on this Kassadin, so maybe I can push for Void or Sorcerer. If I can get a Karthus..." "Hurr durr, it's a tactics game not a strategy game" This is the flimsiest excuse I've ever heard. Literally every tactics game on the market. Every single one. Requires at least some level of strategy. They are basically turn based strategy games. "Hurr durr, you're all wrong because I can warp definitions of words" tac·tic /ˈtaktik/ Learn to pronounce noun plural noun: tactics an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. "the minority attempted to control the Council by a delaying tactic" synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, set of tactics, maneuver, course/line of action; More method, program, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack, path, road; device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, game, machination, contrivance, stunt; means, wiles, artifice, subterfuge; informalwangle, caper; archaicshift "tax-saving tactics" the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy. "basic infantry tactics were taught by guest instructors" synonyms: battle plans, plans, game plans;
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: https://na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/magma_chamber_article_banner.jpg?itok=0v75-XTq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrN7FtnYt-w Behold! The amazingly beautiful Magma Chamber map, designed for 1v1/2v2 matches, now sadly retired and forgotten, probably never to be seen again, unless we demand loud enough!
> [{quoted}](name=Total Violation,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mlVHyq0i,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-01T19:00:05.823+0000) > > https://na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/magma_chamber_article_banner.jpg?itok=0v75-XTq > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrN7FtnYt-w > > Behold! > The amazingly beautiful Magma Chamber map, designed for 1v1/2v2 matches, now sadly retired and forgotten, probably never to be seen again, unless we demand loud enough! There will never be a demand loud enough for riot to give a shit.
: "You Belong In Bronze"
I don't even give a shit about smurfs. I give a shit about destroying my lane like a god damn psychopath and having my mid, jungle, and bot lane, literally everyone else on my team feeds like they're trying to end world hunger. https://imgur.com/a/dpx9Nag
: Please can we just agree on something
I was going to meme and say "no" just to be an asshole but then I read your proposed nickname and I'm saying no because that's moronic.
: who should riot put more effort into getting rid of them?
There's only one legitimate answer. Troll, intentional feeders and afkers. I proposed a punishment pool, but people said that was "creating a prisoner's island" I guess I'm just of the opinion that no one should be permabanned from a free game, but I guess that makes me an asshole.
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