Tanerian (NA)
: If enough people report you for something, you can get banned/restricted.
Mr Sa1nt (NA)
: 2 and 3 are pretty funny. 2. They want you to rage at your screen and accomplish nothing, instead of telling other people to stop being toxic. 3. Don't play solo queue? What about the rest of the game, and the toxic players outside of ranked? Telling people not to play, that hardly seems like constructive criticism on their part. It doesn't really seem logical as a way to keep players playing, either.
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Sa1nt,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7lbug5jG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-19T02:05:11.867+0000) > > 2 and 3 are pretty funny. > > 2. They want you to rage at your screen and accomplish nothing, instead of telling other people to stop being toxic. when has telling a toxic person to stop ever worked?
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7hkdALov,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-19T01:47:35.942+0000) > > There are many reasons why a "prisoner's island" like you suggest is not a good idea. You may like it in whatever game you're talking about, but that does not mean it works well, does not mean it makes the community better, and does not mean it should be implemented. You say that but you give 0 eveidence that’s the case. Also there have been multiple games that have implemented a prisoners island type punishment system and those games are less toxic by far. Try doing some research before you try to shoot down a good idea.
As someone who has played DOTA for years (a game that uses prisoners island) i can tell you that it accomplishes nothing toxic people there dont change their ways, there's no incentive to reform. All they do is flame, get sent to the island, play out their punishment, then are right back with the rest of us pulling the same old crap
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=8mGVzIMF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-18T15:51:52.731+0000) > > or just take half a second before you post and think about where it actually belongs? Easy to make anything look like it's in the wrong section.
: Ok fine keep pissing people off due to using the words "wrong section" till you die.. Instead of curbing the crap.. But lets all level our brains to a IQ of 0
or just take half a second before you post and think about where it actually belongs?
Akali 404 (EUW)
: You should read it, is pretty good! He wants players to reveal their IRL infos for a video game experience where he is sure he won't get inted
: I'm mildly amusingly toxic honor 5 AMA
lol 2 days and 1,200 views later *crickets*
Lost R (NA)
: No, this is a behavior problem in the community that needs to be punished and punished HARD. Riot's too motherfucking goddamn soft for this god-forsaken community and needs to purge it to within an inch of its life if it's going to be salvaged.
"RIOT should kick out a huge number of paying customers so they as a company can be saved" bass ackwards if you ask me and just out of curiosity, what exactly is your definition of a "purge of the community"???
Lost R (NA)
: The lane abandonment issue is getting worse
seems kinda like a 'rant' section post to me
: Good luck, but Riot Support is notorious for their "copy pasted" answers, and not actually giving 2 F's about anything. Riot thinks they are always right when it comes to perma bans, and they almost always refuse to look into the problem..
actually, if you took some time and read through the other threads like this, you would see that they are overturned pretty often IN CASES OF AN ACCOUNT BEING HACKED, if you can prove you are the original creator of the account
TaggTeam (NA)
: Open Letter to Riot about Community Behavior: Your Community is a Reflection of Your Standards
I'm not going to go through your whole post and address every point bc in my opinion the vast majority of it is not feasible and just whining, I will however address this one > [{quoted}](name=TaggTeam,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zBLPE6GM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-18T02:07:54.099+0000) > > 5 - **Take RADICAL Responsibility for Online Behavior: Become the GOLD STANDARD. **You guys are positioned well in the gaming community. You used to be widely respected. Now, I am not so sure. That CAN change though. Make Riot Games the ABSOLUTE GOLD STANDARD for good behavior in the online gaming community. During your Worlds and other live events, have someone talk about exemplary behavior. Have a training on how to be mentally strong in adverse situations. Use some time to recognize random people from the player base who have been phenomenal. YOU DECIDE what your legacy is, and right now . . . it's shit. you want RIOT to lead the way for change in the community? you might want to do even a basic google search on the subject before you start complaining about it, because 2 seconds of searching would have lead you to this, http://fairplayalliance.org/ a completely new, revolutionary concept that is being spearheaded by giants such as RIOT, EA, Blizzard, and Epic in order to "work together to develop and share best practices in encouraging healthy communities and awesome player interactions in online gaming." unless even this isn't enough for you in which case, idk what to tell ya
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2EAZHHjd,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-17T23:28:38.024+0000) > > The individual in question is not currently a specialist, nor are specialists moderators. Further, one individual downvoting something is *not* the same as "spamming downvotes on threads," which typically implies an organized effort to drive a post down. Also interesting I have 3 immediate downvotes on a thread posted 9 hours ago. Seems very suspicious of you.
another downvote here! the tinfoil hat is not a good look on anybody man would downvote twice if i could
: the player behavior section of the boards are a cesspit
please point out the people or threads that have a "legitimate reason to be unbanned"
: Riot employee please respond...
> [{quoted}](name=Master Griefer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zYIGFB5i,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-15T20:05:08.742+0000) > > Why do you punish people who point out feeding, trolling, negative gameplay? why do you need to tell anyone that someone else is feeding? everyone can see it for themselves if that's the case... and since 1 report is the same as 9 report, there's no reason to say any of what you described. Yes trolls are annoying, but bitching about it to everyone just makes 2 annoying people, it **LITERALLY** accomplishes nothing
: Are Flamers ruining Normal's and Aram's?
i play almost exclusively ARAM on this account (some TFT as well) I have experienced none of what you are describing. out of all the ARAM games i play, only about 10% have any chat AT ALL and of that 10%, maybe .5% of that is flame
: Summoners
i spank summoners on the regular with poison/pred, even with full light they can be beaten
: I left TFT for a Month and the game completely changed
so you want the game to stay exactly the same for it's entire lifespan?
: Wtf support team!?
be sure to post his reply
Kei143 (NA)
: Hide from what? To appear in "recent" view you need post counts, not upvotes. Sure having upvotes will get you onto the "hot" view, but there's nothing to be discussed here for it to be classified as hot. It still can be viewed in the "new" view regardless of how many downvotes it recieves. So it's technically not really hiding any posts (replies are a separate issue). Plus frequent contributors in PB don't read hot posts. Once you get into the hot territory, you start getting posts by people whom don't understand the system and the replies get muddy. Not like Riot will post in this regardless of whether this makes it to the "hot" page, so who cares about downvotes in this thread.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5uMoQVTH,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-11-13T22:18:44.851+0000) > > > Plus frequent contributors in PB don't read hot posts. Once you get into the hot territory, you start getting posts by people whom don't understand the system and the replies get muddy. > not to mention half the time the "hot" section is full of votebot manipulated posts
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5uMoQVTH,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-14T03:48:11.815+0000) > > Why are you on a discussion forum then if you aren't interested in discussion? You aren't entitled to only get the answers you want to hear. It's quite simple, you tried using a straw man argument and I pointed it out. Instead of phrasing your argument in a rational way, you chose to lie and put words in peoples' mouths instead. Then you started throwing direct insults. I'm sorry, but it's actually you that is being the ass. You aren't discussing, you're being an ass. And I know I'm not entitled to it, I literally just said that. Jesus christ. They gave me the answer regardless and I'm relatively satisfied with it. Can you like, try and calm down? This doesn't even have anything to do with you.
dude wtf? you came to a public forum with BS and now you're getting called out on it, plain and simple like it's his fault you're full of it lol
: Thoughts about toxicity and punishment in todays Leauge of Legends
IP bans are ineffective and outdated. they would cause WAYYY more problems than they solved
: > [{quoted}](name=KatCallMe,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XkYeEKnE,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T02:11:54.425+0000) > > Well still doesn't explain why i only have one game on there. But apparently I was told it may be a bug that's been around for a long time. That or I'm just a strange case based on my chat logs. Oh well. System is still garbage regardless lol If its a bug then they should revoke your punishment. Why leave it around? I'd definitely ask for a closing regarding the matter if I were you. OP, I think that mass reports probably do get priority over lesser ones. I could be wrong since I don't know how Riot's system works for sure but that would make sense to me.
> [{quoted}](name=Yin Yang Taoist,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XkYeEKnE,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T04:51:59.622+0000) > > > OP, I think that mass reports probably do get priority over lesser ones. I could be wrong since I don't know how Riot's system works for sure but that would make sense to me. this is 100% incorrect 1 report carries the same weight as 9 reports. I'm not going to bother digging up the post but RIOT Tantrum posted the snippet of code that proved it
: Fair ban or not?
yes, this is a fair ban
: bump idk if its a thing here but okay
Cräfty (EUW)
: Unusual hypercarry
shhhh!!! stop tellin people! XD
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VfawbmcQ,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T15:35:02.900+0000) > > no, preform your own nonsense experiments Whew. Just as I thought. Not even you think that you just said would work. Otherwise you would do it with clean heart.
so you make a baseless claim and now I'M supposed to do the work to prove YOUR point? goodbye
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VfawbmcQ,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T15:26:05.835+0000) > > this is misleading, swearing will not get you punished, swearing AT SOMEONE ELSE is where the punishments come from Well, could you make a video about writing kiss (with y and with one less s) and some racial slurs into all-chat ? You know, not saying at anyone, just writing it cuz it is funny. If you didn't get banned the next day, I will buy you a pizza of your choice.
no, preform your own nonsense experiments
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Krissi2197,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VfawbmcQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-11T14:22:50.955+0000) > > 100% serious post. I wasn't sure if me intentionally leaving lane was considered griefing my botlaner, and I know griefing is absolutely a bannable offense. Well, as I mentioned, bans happen for swearing in chat 99% of the time. Leaving a lane won't get you banned. Neither KS-ing the whole game will you get banned. I just use my _knowledge_ based on daily cryposts from banned people and I've never seen anyone being banned for gameplay related happenings but chat related.
> [{quoted}](name=FURRY V2,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VfawbmcQ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T14:28:19.928+0000) > > Well, as I mentioned, bans happen for swearing in chat 99% of the time. this is misleading, swearing will not get you punished, swearing AT SOMEONE ELSE is where the punishments come from
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aPhKoyRF,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T04:14:24.629+0000) > > So let me get this straight... > > RIOT makes a game on their own private platform and then **GENEROUSLY** allow literally anyone to play it **COMPLETELY FOR FREE** > > they then lay out very simple, basic rules for decency > > they then give players up to 3 separate warnings when their behavior is unacceptable > > if after all that, the player cannot (will not) change, then then remove them so that the rest of us dont have to deal with a toxic player > > this is not generous enough for you? This is all true and I don't mean to dilute it in any way, but Riot generously makes a billion dollars a year. Just... something to keep in mind.
oh I'm aware, changes nothing about my point lol just bc a company makes a shiet ton of money doesn't entitle customers to unlimited whateverbullshittheywant
: But I did not actually bot. It was that I didn't play well in one game and allies said that I was script. Maybe they reported me for it and the system believed. Even though for real botters, does the judge need to show the THIEVES evidence of stealing before giving the judgment? I think the answer is yes.
but RIOT is not a government, they are a private company and their discipline and discretion procedures are entirely up to them
klin537 (NA)
: ? >It doesn't make it better simply because they are only effecting other negative players at that point The alternative is them not being able to play at all. I think if you ask these people whether they'd rather play while surrounded by other toxic people or be banned, many (at least the ones who spent money) would want to play.
> [{quoted}](name=klin537,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aPhKoyRF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:46:36.519+0000) > > ? > > The alternative is them not being able to play at all. that's kind of the point XD if you are perma banned that is RIOT saying straight up that they do not want you as a customer.
klin537 (NA)
: Forgive me but I made the incorrect assumption that riot was capable of generosity.
So let me get this straight... RIOT makes a game on their own private platform and then **GENEROUSLY** allow literally anyone to play it **COMPLETELY FOR FREE** they then lay out very simple, basic rules for decency they then give players up to 3 separate warnings when their behavior is unacceptable if after all that, the player cannot (will not) change, then then remove them so that the rest of us dont have to deal with a toxic player this is not generous enough for you?
Tokishi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:23:07.157+0000) > > ....sooooo no actual proof? just spend time on the boards, really not that uncommon. Not about to shift through what is there.
i spend a lot of time on the boards...just click my name at this point i'm just going to call BS on your claim until you can supply actual evidence for it
Tokishi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:02:53.008+0000) > > i have seen no evidence of this, at all. Do you have any links? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/ There's been a lot of stories lately. I think Riot had recently upped the Blitz Bot's sensitivity. Wish they'd do the same with griefers tho
Tokishi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:53:53.253+0000) > > smells kinda fishy... > > can you post the complete, unedited chat logs that are provided when you try to log in? > > if this _actually_ was your first offense then you should probably make a support ticket Could happen, automated system is a relatively unreliable lately. I had a similar error where the support pretty much said if I really cared about not getting punished, I wouldn't have ever said anything back
> [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:56:47.321+0000) > > Could happen, automated system is a relatively unreliable lately. i have seen no evidence of this, at all. Do you have any links?
: got perma banned on my alt for going in a discussion with someone who told me to k*** myself
smells kinda fishy... can you post the complete, unedited chat logs that are provided when you try to log in? if this _actually_ was your first offense then you should probably make a support ticket
klin537 (NA)
: i have an idea to replace permbans
> [{quoted}](name=klin537,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aPhKoyRF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:16:50.717+0000) > > This would allow toxic people to keep playing but not bother any one else why should RIOT go out of their way to create a special place for people who can't follow the SIMPLE rules of a video game and show no effort to reform?
Tayu (NA)
: Any suggestions?
i've had pretty good luck with poison/pred. the executes are super helpful and the poison buff is underrated. You can also round out your comp 100 different ways, i like to run it with Taric bc so often the buff hexes are on opposite sides of the board, if it's mountain lets say, you can put taric alone on one side of the board to stack HP and with the crystal buff (provided you have skarner as one of your preds) he takes some time to bring down (especially if you 2 star him), and that whole time my actual team is wrecking. Not to mention the 2 main 5costs with this build (Taric and Singed) are not very popular so you can usually find them and 2 star them easily dont expect a ton of 1st places but it can get you top 3 pretty easily
: Do people just not care anymore cause it's the end of the season?
"hey there's an issue that I see but can't fix...oh well, might as well make it worse!" come on man...{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
6KNI6HT6 (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=6KNI6HT6,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=NhlBT1bU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T22:15:57.368+0000) > >World's was rigged....Yes, people are too stupid to see the NWO. Control, control, control. NO you can't! Yes I can! > please do explain, i'd love to hear more
: > [{quoted}](name=MenacedKnight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xmI9rrME,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:37:12.063+0000) > > Doesn't matter. Don;t use the chat. Got chat restricted and lost all chance of end of season rewards because I stood up for myself when a plat IV was talking down to me for being Bronze I. Don't use the chat because if you say "darn" the wrong way and someone gets "offended" by it then you will lose Honor levels and possibly more. I know it's an automated system but I mean if you don't say anything flagged as offensive by it and are rarely reported will that really happen?? I mean the system can't be THAT broken, can it?
it's not like that at all just salty exaggeration
Socon (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=0TarYcAE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-09T12:29:04.779+0000) > > you really think there's no correlation there? > > thats pretty obtuse man So everyone who watches soccer plays soccer?
did i say that? nice strawman im saying that there is a correlation between massive viewership and game participation, no where did i even imply that it's 100% i think im done with you, goodbye
: whos broporo? and man tantram... i miss him. didnt see him in ages.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EuhGLMeB,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2019-10-15T17:59:07.687+0000) > > I'm not working in the PB space anymore. I moved on to being a more general architect for League. But, happy to answer questions I know answers to:). > > That's one of the reasons you haven't seen me around here as much. I've been busy! https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/EuhGLMeB-i-missed-you-all?comment=00130000
: Banned for literally nothing
South Park is a shining example of acceptable jokes and behavior! A perfect thing to emulate! {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: botters/botted accounts get banned in waves. so yes its punishable but it only happens like once every 2-3 months. meaning these accs can roam free for a long time and ruin several 100 games. but yes they will be banned.
its better than the alternative
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=0TarYcAE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-08T05:32:49.319+0000) > > i just dont get the whole "player base dwindling" thing > > it was highly reported that the SKT1 vs G2 semi final was the highest viewed esport event ever...doesn't sound like interest dwindling to me... viewed as in watched the game. never said they actually played the game lol
you really think there's no correlation there? thats pretty obtuse man
: Clearly not everyone knows exactly what is meant by "don't be a jerk". Would it really hurt for the game to say, "People are saying you're being a jerk and we're starting to take it seriously. Next time you'll get a chat restriction."
i dont think that is a necessary step and apparently neither does RIOT their rules are simple and spelled out plainly in MULTIPLE places, if a player can't be bothered to read the Summoners Code or the ToS that they willingly agree to, I dont see any reason why then deserve yet ANOTHER chance.
: Consequences for Flaming in Aram
trolls would wear that clown like a badge of honor
: Just because you can rationalize it, doesn't mean it isn't sudden to other people. I am suggesting a player should get a popup saying their behavior is getting flagged and they should think about correcting it themselves. That is how you treat someone like a mature adult. We do that with vehicles being driven improperly, why can't we do that here? You make it sound as if there ARE warnings given, however. My impression from looking up the rules myself is that there are no warnings before the chat restriction. I haven't been punished by the system outside of LeaverBuster, so I wouldn't know for sure.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightsky Pirate,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PyxFUTOh,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T05:32:52.676+0000) > > I am suggesting a player should get a popup saying their behavior is getting flagged and they should think about correcting it themselves. That is how you treat someone like a mature adult. We do that with vehicles being driven improperly, why can't we do that here? you mean besides the pop-up that comes with every major patch that outlines the rules that the players then click "I Agree" to? are those pop ups not enough? how much hand holding is required to make people get the point of **JUST DONT BE A JERK TO OTHER PEOPLE**? it's a classic 'if you give a mouse a cookie' thing. at some point you need to just draw a line in the sand.
Socon (OCE)
: The league of legends toxicity cycle.
i just dont get the whole "player base dwindling" thing it was highly reported that the SKT1 vs G2 semi final was the highest viewed esport event ever...doesn't sound like interest dwindling to me...
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