Costoz (EUNE)
: "Reconnect" the only option after leaving the game
Are you disconnecting before you actually lose? If you disconnect before the finishing blow actually hits you, you'll be stuck with reconnect.
: Nerf Garen, I can’t play the Game cuz I’m Silenced
he's already scheduled for nerfs next patch
: Is there someone who actually did it?
> [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6L23MYNR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-12T19:25:16.066+0000) > > Is there someone who actually did it? there are multiple accounts with every champion at m7, yeah.
: After FOUR years of playing this game, I finally own all the champions.
>Time to start another account I guess lol. You mean time to get them all to m7 {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Theorex (NA)
: Sorry its 4x 12 = 48. The keys are capped at 12 fragments per a 4 week interval. There are 12 months in a year. so 12 x 4 = 48. I used the wrong number up top and am going back to correct it. https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Hextech_Crafting
> [{quoted}](name=Theorex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vcfQzdtj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-09T18:53:15.537+0000) > > Sorry its 4x 12 = 48. > > The keys are capped at 12 fragments per a 4 week interval. > > There are 12 months in a year. so 12 x 4 = 48. I used the wrong number up top and am going back to correct it. > > https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Hextech_Crafting You can get additional key fragments from honor rewards or event tokens though.
Theorex (NA)
: League needs to increase the number of chest we can earn from S's.
I'm confused where you're getting that it's only possible to get 36 keys in a year?
rujitra (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WfENvpWN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-09T16:25:36.471+0000) > > Your account literally has 4 games yesterday, then over 50 in the past week. > > Why lie on the boards when it's public info? You're looking at NA. OP is EUW https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Shieda+Kayn is his account Not this https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Shieda+Kayn
Wombytes (EUW)
: Well what would you call them? They take immense amount of damage, you could say they are... tanking a lot of damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Wombytes,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mzJXlrqK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T16:06:36.203+0000) > > Well what would you call them? They take immense amount of damage, you could say they are... tanking a lot of damage. They're classified as juggernauts. Basically tanks with less CC and more damage. Tanks would be champs like leona, sej, braum, etc. who are hard to kill and have a ton of CC, but don't do much damage.
ßluę (NA)
: Noob Question: But is Clash still available?
EUW got clash last weekend. It is supposed to come back to NA sometime before the end of the year though.
: I'm baffled by how much 3 star units people manage to get.
hyperrolling You econ until 3-2 (10/12 xp to level 5) then roll down all of your gold while looking for 1 cost units for whatever comp you're going for. Most players seem to be in agreement that it's generally a very unhealthy strat for the game, but it's so strong that unless you're going for a comp that requires a lot of high cost units, it's the way to go. after 3-2, you econ again and generally cash in at either 4-1 and level at 4-3, or econ until 18/20 xp to 6 if a comp you're going _really_ needs 3* 1 or 2 cost units and you didn't get them before.
: While I agree with pretty much everything you said, I just want to note from experience that your post won't make it past the next 24 hour period. They'll claim it was in the wrong board ("go to RANT where no one reads anything lololol") and remove it. It's happened to me two or three times in the past month. Moderators are getting mighty strict about letting dissident conversation out of RANT, especially if it's got an aggressive tint to it.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E4LVmlZ7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T09:33:26.996+0000) > > While I agree with pretty much everything you said, I just want to note from experience that your post won't make it past the next 24 hour period. They'll claim it was in the wrong board ("go to RANT where no one reads anything lololol") and remove it. It's happened to me two or three times in the past month. Moderators are getting mighty strict about letting dissident conversation out of RANT, especially if it's got an aggressive tint to it. What he's saying is nothing but a rant though, why would it not belong there? He's angrily throwing around insults and ranting about a subject with no room for discourse. There's not really anything to be gained from this, it's just venting frustration.
Lost R (NA)
: It's almost like overspecializing never fucking works
: TFT matchmaking in Ranked is (unironically) busted.
do you have any screencaps of you getting matched with diamond players? I don't even get matched with diamonds and I'm in plat 3 with good mmr. looking at your lolchess.gg, I really, _really_ don't believe you're matched with players that high in ranked.
: Does anyone else feel like the game is less rewarding than it was?
>With Riot making the game more and more team-oriented and at this point pretty much killing the whole 1v5 if you're fed enough playstyle in the same post > you'll turn around to find a 0/2 Yasuo who farmed his cores suddenly 2v4'ing
Hotarµ (NA)
: >Hey Riot, could you make the next marksman have the capability to survive? "Oh man, ADCs can't survive, they're so bad right now haha!" Ashe [**51-53%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/ashe/bronze) winrate all elos. Jinx [**51-53%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/jinx/gold) winrate across all elos. Jhin [**51-52%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/jhin/silver) winrate across all elos. Xayah [**50%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/xayah/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of about 10-15%. Vayne [**50-51%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/vayne/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of about 10-12%. Caitlyn [**50-51%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/caitlyn/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of almost _18-20%_. Kai'sa [**48-49%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/kaisa/adc/master) winrate with anywhere from 20-40% playrate. **TL;DR: Statistically, ADCs are fine and they are some of the best champions in the game at the moment. **
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=OAo83vv9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-06T04:39:58.560+0000) > > "Oh man, ADCs can't survive, they're so bad right now haha!" > > Ashe [**51-53%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/ashe/bronze) winrate all elos. > > Jinx [**51-53%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/jinx/gold) winrate across all elos. > > Jhin [**51-52%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/jhin/silver) winrate across all elos. > > Xayah [**50%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/xayah/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of about 10-15%. > > Vayne [**50-51%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/vayne/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of about 10-12%. > > Caitlyn [**50-51%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/caitlyn/adc) winrate across all elos, high playrate of almost _18-20%_. > > Kai'sa [**48-49%**](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/kaisa/adc/master) winrate with anywhere from 20-40% playrate. > > **TL;DR: Statistically, ADCs are fine and they are some of the best champions in the game at the moment. ** These winrates mean literally nothing. ADC is fine atm, but I'm really not sure what point you were trying to make with this post. Even when adcs were undeniably in a _terrible_ spot, the average adc still had a 50% winrate, because aside from a few outliers, they're picked every game, only played in one lane, and against one another. No matter if they're strong or weak compared to any other role, they'll still maintain approximately a 50% wr so long as they're equally strong or equally weak compared to each other.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=LP9AomnA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-10T20:19:17.569+0000) > > It's been tested and proven multiple times that biscuits don't prevent remake. I think there is more to it. Debuggers should find what it is though. Cause that remake prevention thing happens, and when it happens the afk hv biscuit rune
> [{quoted}](name=KingVKB12,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=LP9AomnA,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-05T17:00:09.526+0000) > > I think there is more to it. Debuggers should find what it is though. Cause that remake prevention thing happens, and when it happens the afk hv biscuit rune it's entirely coincidental. So many people run biscuits that it's likely someone that never connects will be running them. iirc, a rioter said that one of the main reasons remake doesn't go through is because the player is in loading screen trying to reconnect.
: Garen is completely magic immune at all times? Is that a fucking joke?
MetaGeek (NA)
: Players Using Bots in TT Blind Pick
TT is and has been for a very long time primarily bots while your mmr is still terrible. It's not even just late at night, either.
: Can we please not get spatula items from Dragon/Shelly
There are times when a spatula item is extremely useful though. Even if you aren't going assassins, a bork when going wild/shapeshifters can be useful for getting to their backline. Ever seen an assassin swain? It's actually disgusting.
LAFFEN (EUW)
: haha mods, u must love abusing ur power.. My post literally got removed because im not from NA or KR
> if riot is going to literally mute me because im not from NA or KR, then its just proving how riot treat their playerbase. The bizarre reasoning people come up with for why they were punished is truly astonishing sometimes. They literally told you the reason your post was removed, yet you somehow try to make it out that they're actually just racist and removed your post for not being from NA.
: Indeed, the account in question shows up as a derelict lv4 on the NA boards. so feel free to tell me where to get more accurate information.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rR3Zl1ul,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-02T20:00:36.876+0000) > > Indeed, the account in question shows up as a derelict lv4 on the NA boards. so feel free to tell me where to get more accurate information. The boards are absolutely terrible at updating levels. I have several inactive accounts that still show up as like level 7 last I checked. why don't you just check the client to see that he's still level 28? You can search for a summoner name in the profile tag. I still really don't understand why you find this so hard to believe that a master tier player leveling an alt account would play against players at around his skill level in norms. You think just because he's sub-30 he should be playing with legitimately new players? https://imgur.com/a/Xh3fB33 here's a screencap of his account and shiba lnu (who's challenger now, but was grandmaster)
Hamerfal (EUNE)
: Haven't seen neeko's help since the new patch.
I've literally gotten 3 in one round after the patch, and on average see 1 ever other game. You've just gotten unlucky.
: op.gg is garbage, takes forever to update and often shows wildly incorrect data anyway. That game would not have unfolded that way with players of those actual ranks.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rR3Zl1ul,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-02T00:38:09.478+0000) > > op.gg is garbage, takes forever to update and often shows wildly incorrect data anyway. That game would not have unfolded that way with players of those actual ranks. LOL Alright. You can literally check any of the players there, but if you want to be delusional when proof is presented to you, that'a okay too.
: It would be, which must be why no proof is appearing.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rR3Zl1ul,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-01T23:00:05.312+0000) > > It would be, which must be why no proof is appearing. ? Is a screencap of his game where he's level 28 playing against a grand master player somehow not proof? Lmao https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Soup+draven You can scroll down and look yourself if you think I shopped that or something.
: > grand master your friend is full of shit.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rR3Zl1ul,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-10-01T04:51:27.641+0000) > > your friend is full of shit. https://imgur.com/a/z6oduGL that would be a really weird thing to lie about
: Matchmaking works by MMR, not ranked. That "iron 2 kid" will probably be gold next week. > I've been qued with lv 23 players NOT EVEN LV 30 they were literally FRESH out of bot games had 13 mastery. op.gg takes ages to update, you cant even get sub-30s in your games unless you yourself are completely new. The system separates out new players. Also, bronze V does not exist anymore. Big doubt.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rR3Zl1ul,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-01T04:43:56.413+0000) > > Matchmaking works by MMR, not ranked. That "iron 2 kid" will probably be gold next week. > > op.gg takes ages to update, you cant even get sub-30s in your games unless you yourself are completely new. The system separates out new players. yes you can. As far as I'm aware, level has very little if any effect on your MMR. I have a friend leveling an alt account that's currently level 28 and playing against anything from other low level smurfs to plat-grand master players in norms.
: Matchmaking Is A Myth
looking on op.gg, there was no iron 2 player. You had a bronze 4 player queued with the diamond 2 player, a level 191, a silver 2, and another bronze 4 (you) What are you confused about exactly? That the diamond player is allowed to play with his low elo friend in a normal game?
Bultz (NA)
: I would never play Tft ranked, this game is so unbalanced it's a joke
Sounds like you're just frustrated because you don't know how to build a comp or possibly position. Getting 5 3 stars with incorrectly placed items or useless synergies or poor positioning should never mean an instant win against a well thought out team of 2 star units. Just sounds like the 8/0/2 player that severely misplays in league and dies to someone that's 1/7 then complains about that champion being broken instead of admitting you made a mistake.
Kat XD (NA)
: Well whenever I see a high elo streamer climb quickly back to their usual rank, they duo with someone else who is the same rank. So I guess that's the secret. I rarely see anyone solo climb from bronze to diamond.
> [{quoted}](name=Kat XD,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=skEZuJER,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-30T23:57:12.836+0000) > > Well whenever I see a high elo streamer climb quickly back to their usual rank, they duo with someone else who is the same rank. So I guess that's the secret. > > I rarely see anyone solo climb from bronze to diamond. someone just played solo to challenger with a 46 game win streak, and a 90something% winrate overall. you don't have to duoqueue to climb. It certainly helps though to have another player of your skill level to queue with.
: They aren't winning more they're just playing more games. The top player can be dethroned by multiple other challenger players if they decided to put as much time in to the game. There needs to be more skill involved and less RNG starting with something like if the person got 1st place in their last game they have last pick at the carousel in their next game 2nd in last game, 7th pick and so on.
> [{quoted}](name=Summoned By Who,realm=EUW,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=lGGKEYEo,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-01T00:14:54.787+0000) > > They aren't winning more they're just playing more games. The top player can be dethroned by multiple other challenger players if they decided to put as much time in to the game. There needs to be more skill involved and less RNG starting with something like if the person got 1st place in their last game they have last pick at the carousel in their next game 2nd in last game, 7th pick and so on. so you want someone to be penalized for winning, but you also want it to be somehow faster to rank up than it already is? I'm curious, how do you think that would work for matchmaking? What if 3 1st place finishers are in the same game? And you want it to be faster to rank up, but you also want to make games take substantially longer with as many as _32 players_ in a single game? do you know how much that would increase game length?
: But if you're ranking up you are winning consistently... I'm just saying long game hours shouldn't be encouraged by any game company. A good balance would be encouraging players to play 3-4 days a week max at 2-4 hours tops a day.
> [{quoted}](name=Summoned By Who,realm=EUW,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=lGGKEYEo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-30T23:41:33.249+0000) > > But if you're ranking up you are winning consistently... I'm just saying long game hours shouldn't be encouraged by any game company. A good balance would be encouraging players to play 3-4 days a week max at 2-4 hours tops a day. If you're playing 2 hours a day, that's enough for 3-4 games. With how huge lp gains are early, that should be more than enough to rank up quickly. If you want to rank up faster, play more.
: TFT Player Pool Size Increase
It only takes long to rank up if you aren't winning consistently. If you aren't winning consistently, you don't deserve to rank up quickly. I went from silver 4 0lp to plat 4 8lp in 1 day over 15 games with a promotion every 1-2 games. If that's not quick enough, I don't know what is.
: Does smurfing ruin low elo game
Smurfing can ruin rank integrity, sure But the number of smurfs you'll encounter is so stasticially insignificant that it's incredibly unlikely they'll actually have a big enough impact to impede your climb if you are more skilled than your current rank. Smurfing is probably more likely to have a bigger effect on higher elo games than it is low elo actually, as smurfs don't stay in low elo for long.
: Perma banned after month break (hacked)
A friend of mine had an inactive account get hacked/sold and got a 14 day ban put on her account. Riot support was incredibly helpful though, she just had to answer a about 20 or so questions only she'd know the answer to to confirm she was the original account creator, and riot was able to reverse everything the person did on her account. If you aren't the one who played with 3rd party programs, riot should have logs that show log in IPs and the like, and they should be able to reverse it for you.
: My largest concern with "Offense" Champions as a Support Player
>When an Assassin does a tank's job better than a Tank can because flashing around the map untouched mitigates the most damage, and because damage spikes and Armor Pen make Health and Armor a joke, then there's an issue. Always a good sign when the start of a wall of text is this wrong. Surely the rest of it will be well thought out and accurate. But I guess you're not wrong, when that happens, there is an issue. Fortunately, that hasn't happened, nor will it ever happen in league.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-19T06:29:10.793+0000) > > A rioter (I don't remember which one) tweeted that a majority of their focus for this preseason is going to be about improving the quality of matchmaking. yeah that is why that season was the worst one to even consider playing.
> [{quoted}](name=Garen is adopted,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=00020003,timestamp=2019-09-19T20:19:42.514+0000) > > yeah that is why that season was the worst one to even consider playing. The season that we haven't seen yet was the worst one? interesting
: Meanwhile, over in DOTA land:
A rioter (I don't remember which one) tweeted that a majority of their focus for this preseason is going to be about improving the quality of matchmaking.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T23:34:26.473+0000) > > The problem with your argument is you're acting like people in soloq don't hate her as well. Despite having such a low winrate, she's maintained a high ban rate across every elo for her entire time on the rift. She feels horrible to play against, and horrible to play with. Her kit is just toxic by design for everyone but the yuumi player. > Making any champion untargettable for 90% of the game while giving them a near impossible to miss AOE root, near impossible to miss poke with a potent slow, healing, a speed up, and a shield, was just destined to be nerfed into oblivion. Her being untargettable doesnt really matter when she is a low impact champion. Furthermore you kill the host and she is basically a free kill most of the time. Third she is completely useless outside of someone(almost minion tier). Her Heals get outclassed by every heal support. Her poke gets outclassed by any support, and every shield support has better CC heals, and overall a better kit. Theres a reaosn her WR has been a persistent 43%. You arguments have been said before about most champions(even Janna) but none have been gutted even further while at a 43% WR.
> [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2019-09-14T08:50:35.598+0000) > > Her being untargettable doesnt really matter when she is a low impact champion. Furthermore you kill the host and she is basically a free kill most of the time. Third she is completely useless outside of someone(almost minion tier). Her Heals get outclassed by every heal support. Her poke gets outclassed by any support, and every shield support has better CC heals, and overall a better kit. Theres a reaosn her WR has been a persistent 43%. You arguments have been said before about most champions(even Janna) but none have been gutted even further while at a 43% WR. Sorry? Low impact? LOL Yes she's so low impact, that's why she's pick/ban in pro play and is one of the most banned champs in soloq, because she's just so bad and low impact. borderline unmissable poke and slow? equally hard to miss aoe stun? speed up, heal, and shield? Very very low impact, she might as well not even be there. And sure, she's a free kill if you somehow manage to kill who she's on (and she doesn't have 3 other people to jump on) but she makes whoever she's on _very_ difficult to kill.
: They will re-release star guardinan neeko at the end of the year right
she'll be available from now until they retire all of this years prestige point skins.
ikilluwat (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LheNRW5M,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-13T23:23:07.622+0000) > > should probably have posted this in rant, but > > ? > They're in silver because they're bad. They aren't even silver level(skill wise). That's what I mean.
> [{quoted}](name=ikilluwat,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LheNRW5M,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T23:23:58.046+0000) > > They aren't even silver level(skill wise). That's what I mean. Yes they are. Silver skill level is bad. Silver is statistically below average, with silver 3-4 being in the bottom 1/3 of players. You may pop off and have some good games, but not consistently. Same as the players on your team that you're judging on the one game you're playing with them.
ikilluwat (EUW)
: RIOT seriously needs to add paper league.
should probably have posted this in rant, but >how can someone be so bad yet be in silver? ? They're in silver because they're bad. You have problems with riot, other silver players, etc, but I see you taking literally zero responsibility for your own games. I'm not going to say this is the sole reason you're silver, but it's definitely not helping you out any. Your mentality is stopping you from growing and getting better at the game, because you think you're better than you are.
: {{sticker:sg-soraka}} (I know) if lane minions are this worthless why junglers always tax them then :thinking:
> [{quoted}](name=DoranShieldOp,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=46FAsmXA,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-09-13T20:06:25.110+0000) > > {{sticker:sg-soraka}} (I know) > > if lane minions are this worthless why junglers always tax them then :thinking: Their gold isn't reduced for junglers when taxing. It's only reduced if your gold from minions is more than half your gold from jungle camps.
: Karma hard nerfs???
>Dont you just love it. Karma just poked her head at mid lane and there you go...insta nerf. Tank karma top is what you can thank for these changes, not midlane karma. They're requiring you actually build ap to do damage now.
1 Wing (NA)
: Why is Yuumi cancer? I don't feel oppressed when laning against a Yuumi, like I might with Brand or something.
> [{quoted}](name=1 Wing,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-13T14:42:25.835+0000) > > Why is Yuumi cancer? > > I don't feel oppressed when laning against a Yuumi, like I might with Brand or something. Because she makes anyone she attaches to near unkillable while being immune to everything. Had an adc that fed their ass off? Doesn't matter, just attach to swain/darius/vlad/riven/illaoi/whoever that went even or won lane and let them basically 1v5. Unlike other enchanters where you can get a pick or nuke them during a fight then turn on the front line, you_have_ to kill basically everyone before you can even touch yuumi.
BradBen (NA)
: Oh please she is just another champion that riot nerfed cuz she was played in the LCS i mean look at {{champion:246}} and {{champion:420}} unbalanced as hell but since nobody played them in the LCS they didn't care i donno wtf is going on with Riot but if they keep this up i don't see a bright future for this game or them
> [{quoted}](name=BradBen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-09-13T10:09:28.456+0000) > > Oh please > she is just another champion that riot nerfed cuz she was played in the LCS > i mean look at {{champion:246}} and {{champion:420}} unbalanced as hell but since nobody played them in the LCS they didn't care > i donno wtf is going on with Riot but if they keep this up i don't see a bright future for this game > or them Qiyana is pick/ban in pro play I don't understand why you'd mention illaoi though.
Ahri Baka (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XJZMti5T,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-13T12:27:38.937+0000) > > I'm just going to copy paste my response from your other thread, since I'm assuming you didn't intend to put it in memes and games. > > You're using smite as a crutch for you inability to cs properly. You're wasting a summoner spell that could otherwise be giving you kill pressure with ignite, map pressure with tp, survivability with cleanse/heal/barrier, etc etc. > The benefits of smite in lane are far outweighed by almost every other summoner spell. > You can't even buy a jungle item because of the massive reduction in gold you get from csing Wait didn't that get reverted ? I thought they allowed funneling once again
> [{quoted}](name=Ahri Baka,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XJZMti5T,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T12:32:52.774+0000) > > Wait didn't that get reverted ? I thought they allowed funneling once again They removed the monster hunter passive because they thought plating would be enough to stop funnelling. It wasn't, so they added a slightly different version of it back. You get 10 less gold per minion if your gold from minions is more than half of your gold from jungle camps.
: if u can survive the rocky laning phase i think it's kinda worth a shot if ap midlaner buy the ap jungle item with luden's passive your smite will be a lower cd ignite
> [{quoted}](name=DoranShieldOp,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=46FAsmXA,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-13T12:41:57.431+0000) > > if u can survive the rocky laning phase i think it's kinda worth a shot if ap midlaner buy the ap jungle item with luden's passive your smite will be a lower cd ignite You're putting yourself massively behind. It's not a rocky laning phase, it's a worthless laning phase. A 6 minion wave gives 105 gold (21 gold from melee minions, 14 from casters) With monster hunter passive, you get 45 gold. You would have to more than double the enemy laners CS until you finished your first item to not be behind.
: Gold reduction? humm i must be missing somthing .. So your say after purchase your 1st jungle item you get hi with a reduction ? Plz explane. thanks. And to touch on my so called inabillity , Ics just fine .I mention that i use it for a rang.
> [{quoted}](name=CouchBeast,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=46FAsmXA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T12:28:01.988+0000) > > Gold reduction? humm i must be missing somthing .. So your say after purchase your 1st jungle item you get hi with a reduction ? Plz explane. thanks. > > And to touch on my so called inabillity , Ics just fine .I mention that i use it for a rang. UNIQUE - Monster Hunter: Killing large or epic monsters grants +50 bonus experience, and gain +50 bonus experience for each level the monster is higher than you. The first large monster killed grants +120 bonus experience. _Minion gold earned is reduced by 10 per minion if their owner's gold from minions is greater than half their gold from monsters._
: I'd like to hear his thoughts and reasons on using or not using smite as a mid laner ?
I'm just going to copy paste my response from your other thread, since I'm assuming you didn't intend to put it in memes and games. You're using smite as a crutch for you inability to cs properly. You're wasting a summoner spell that could otherwise be giving you kill pressure with ignite, map pressure with tp, survivability with cleanse/heal/barrier, etc etc. The benefits of smite in lane are far outweighed by almost every other summoner spell. You can't even buy a jungle item because of the massive reduction in gold you get from csing
: Why not Smite mid lane?
You're using smite as a crutch for you inability to cs properly. You're wasting a summoner spell that could otherwise be giving you kill pressure with ignite, map pressure with tp, survivability with cleanse/heal/barrier, etc etc. The benefits of smite in lane are far outweighed by almost every other summoner spell. You can't even buy a jungle item because of the massive reduction in gold you get from csing
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