SirEnds (NA)
: "it made me toxic that i **had** to say things back because its not fair losing insane amount elo" you never HAD to say anything back (btw work on your grammar and punctuation)
so are you flaming me?
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Exposed TnT,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bVrYNVOB,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-20T23:59:37.807+0000) > > yeahh but I still believe a perma ban was too harsh ban me for a week or two but a lifetime? you are right no one is exempt from flaming but i am getting banned because trolls teamed up to report me and be like yeahh and he said some mean stuff while they are the ones that flamed or trolled you get what i am trying to say its unfathomable First: You got a permaban because despite the warning you got for the 2-week ban that continued negative behavior may result in a permaban you still decided to behave poorly, hence the permaban. You're not gonna get infinite chances, and if a player has proven time and again that acting up and harassing others is more important than their account then Riot is within their right to permaban them, which I personally see no problems with. Second: It only takes one report to flag a game for review, which is thrown out if punishable behavior is not found in it. Multiple reports don't change that process. Third: Other people displaying poor behavior does not excuse your own, and everyone is responsible for their own behaviors. We get it, other people misbehaving is annoying, but stooping to their level (which is what they want most of the time) is not the solution. If you reported them and they have a history of poor behavior then they too will be punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bVrYNVOB,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T02:26:45.457+0000) > Third: Other people displaying poor behavior does not excuse your own, and everyone is responsible for their own behaviors. We get it, other people misbehaving is annoying, but stooping to their level (which is what they want most of the time) is not the solution. If you reported them and they have a history of poor behavior then they too will be punished. That's what I am trying to get at I don't flame innocent people because that would not make any sense but I had back to back games were i have trolls and they report me for flaming them I know it's not right but I just feel it's a unfair ban
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GWEhlJUV,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-20T23:26:28.212+0000) > > It doesn't. The MMR/LP system is such that it's literally impossible for some bad players - be they unskilled, trolls, inters, AFKs, etc - cannot negatively impact your rank. You will settle into the rank you deserve - period. It isn't impossible, it's just very unlikely. However you could get a streak of trolls on your team 2 out of 3 games and find it very difficult to climb. Worse yet, your LP gains will eventually become less and less so it actually takes more wins to climb out of the hole you're in. It could take you 100 games to climb into the elo you're supposed to be in instead of 50 or whatever. Either way, it is ruining the quality of competitive games to have players intentionally throwing games.
I recently got perma banned for flaming players that were intentionally throwing games, trolling, and flaming so they all team up to report me but these players get to see the light of day I agree with you this is ruining competitive games as inters and troll are taking over the game I don't like being toxic or making fun of anyone i play to make friends and teammates
: Yes there are a lot of toxic people in this game, but the fact of the matter is that you flamed back. Hence the ban. No one is exempt from flaming, if you flame they will ban you, you got banned, they probably either got banned or got a punishment strike against them. There is no circumstance in this game where flaming is allowed.
yeahh but I still believe a perma ban was too harsh ban me for a week or two but a lifetime? you are right no one is exempt from flaming but i am getting banned because trolls teamed up to report me and be like yeahh and he said some mean stuff while they are the ones that flamed or trolled you get what i am trying to say its unfathomable
rujitra (NA)
: Do you have a crystal ball? You don't know that. I'm sure *some* are. But many likely aren't. **EVEN STILL** - them breaking the rules and making your experience worse doesn't mean you can add to that for others in the game.
but I am not adding that to others i am trying to stop stuff like that I don't like being toxic or making fun of anyone i am a nice guy i play to make friends and teammates and yeah I don't have a crystal ball you know when someone is inting,afking man I don't have to explain that if you have a bad game I got you don't worry it happens to the best of us but when you go to fight a 1v5 at barron pit you can't lie to yourself and be like yeah i am not inting and then afterwards run down middle going afk
: because they don't control what you do. Only you do.
I see what you are saying but its unfair they are ruining peoples game experience I know I should not be angry but i am not flaming normal people at all like I do not say anything unless you are int,afk,trolling because you are just wasting my time and others in the game. I had one game were a guy was boosting his friend on the other team
rujitra (NA)
: You are **choosing** to let yourself get angry at their actions.
ohh yes 100% but they are ruining the games for other like if you have a bad game I won't flame or anything ill give you tips and everything and ill even try to carry you but these guys are doing this on purpose inting,afking,trolling
rujitra (NA)
: They aren't tilting you. You are the only one with control over your emotions. If you do not have self-control it's not Riot's problem or fault.
what do you mean they are not tilting me??? we have a whole discussion page about people tilting each other and how to overcome it I feel like you guys didn't read the whole post
Zardo (NA)
: Here's the way I see it- Flaming someone who trolls does nothing but waste time and effort you could be spending playing the game. Do you think they're going to have a change of heart after reading your flame? No! They're going to use it as fuel to their trolling fire.
yes you are right 100% but I had 30 games plus like that, not just one or two and riot does not see that if it was just one or two I wouldn't flame or anything I would tell you it okay we got this together but if you are inting and afker on purpose and trying to to make others toxic for the kink of it is messed up and i am getting the heat for it like why am i getting ban I didn't try to ruin the game for others then trolls are reporting me for laughs?
: >hello riot, i have been permanently banned on my account exposedtnt I have said some toxic things This is all that matters. Your teammates did not force you to do anything.
so you telling me if you have someone on your team trolling, afking, flaming its okay???? That is completely ruining the game and banning the wrong person?????? while a bunch of trolls are doing this on purpose to tilt players and to get others mad is totally toxic the only thing my teammates force me to do was not have a good time. I tried to be nice but when you play a competitive game and you int,afk, and troll just to ruins someone day is not fun and you wouldn't like it either My whole point I didn't deserve a perma ban because I wasn't completely toxic like other at a day to day basis
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