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Saezio (EUNE)
: TP doesn't have as much agency in soloq as it does in competitive. Anyone with more than 5 brain cells can understand this. TP doesn't affect soloq at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pAHZWKJQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-30T16:19:20.494+0000) > > TP doesn't have as much agency in soloq as it does in competitive. Anyone with more than 5 brain cells can understand this. TP doesn't affect soloq at all. I mean... when u compare them to all the other summoners' spells... these 2 got the most impact... maybe too much impact? ... what i mean
Antenora (EUW)
: Imagine good players being able to track timers being down to the agency of the ability.
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pAHZWKJQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-30T14:09:33.981+0000) > > Imagine good players being able to track timers being down to the agency of the ability. it's important enough ... deemed worthy enough for the tremendous amount of disruption to his game.
: I can already tell Senna is going to be a balance nightmare, why can't Riot realise the same?
The balance team sleeps with the Devil... What is a nightmare to them?
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: Announcing the Rise of the Elements Invitational
: Quitting Sion
Well, I am not judgmental of their plays... they shouldn't be so judgmental about my play. I always give a benefit of doubt to Unusual Playstyles... so much so I would watch the replay before forming an opinion. I would never judge someone in-game.
Zardo (NA)
: >Report! ... See a roaming Teemo?! Report! ... Except roaming teemo support wasn't "roaming". It was leaving their adc(a champion who cant function without help) to 1v2 all lane. Imagine playing someone like vayne against a naut draven and having to constantly deal with getting dove because your teammate wants to "play off meta".
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VYnO3x9o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-25T16:33:47.159+0000) > > Except roaming teemo support wasn't "roaming". It was leaving their adc(a champion who cant function without help) to 1v2 all lane. Imagine playing someone like vayne against a naut draven and having to constantly deal with getting dove because your teammate wants to "play off meta". I rest my case.
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Sukishoo (NA)
: No, Riven was getting changes because Worlds is when her skin is coming out. They obviously wanted her to be more present for Worlds.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=NwNtjHMy,comment-id=001a0000,timestamp=2019-09-23T19:12:03.291+0000) > > No, Riven was getting changes because Worlds is when her skin is coming out. They obviously wanted her to be more present for Worlds. This is a bad practice. Just saying. Riven was already pretty messed-up at top/mid lane. No reason for these random buffs.
: Balance team has access to so many stats but cant make sense of them
Just found out too that new Prestige skins releasing are apparently reasons particular champs needed buffs?! (Lee Sin and Riven) Wow, just wow, Riot... you mess with the already bad balance because a couple of champs are getting new skins? You're making a mistake. You're making a BIG mistake.
: Prestige Updates
So these prestige skins are the reason for the Lee Sin and Riven buffs? Oh... Riot you're making a mistake. You're making a big mistake.
: Why is malphite, a tank, better played as an AP assasin?
Because Riot failed to understand (or they understood and chose to embrace the idea) - Champs can be simply and easily divided into 2 camps in SoloQ. when u strip down the game into its most basic, ignoring complex champ synergies only pros can pull off = 1) Teamfighters good burst wombo-comboer or abilities that can change outcome of fights. 2) Good Splitpushers (Macro-disruptors) - They have good access to different points of the map. Disrupts the macro or pace of game. 3) Some champs are a combination of 1 and 2 Suddenly it becomes clear that Maphite falls into 1.
: Ok... so let me ask you this how would you for example balance the {{champion:122}} vs {{champion:86}} matchup in a way that won't affect every single other matchup of those champions? There are an incredibly small amount of changes that can be done in a vacuum. Every single change you make CAN AND WILL have consequences on so many other things. Some could be good, some could be bad, some could be disastrous. You just cannot just say "{{champion:48}} is too weak against ranged so let's just make this random change to make him better against it" without looking at how would that affect his other matchups.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tfKQGJVE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-22T22:27:41.191+0000) > > Ok... so let me ask you this how would you for example balance the {{champion:122}} vs {{champion:86}} matchup in a way that won't affect every single other matchup of those champions? There are an incredibly small amount of changes that can be done in a vacuum. Every single change you make CAN AND WILL have consequences on so many other things. Some could be good, some could be bad, some could be disastrous. You just cannot just say "{{champion:48}} is too weak against ranged so let's just make this random change to make him better against it" without looking at how would that affect his other matchups. In your example, I tried very very hard to play Garen in soloQ... for a long time. I gave up. I tend to group soloQ champs into very simple 2 camps - 1) Good Global Splitpushers (that provide great disruption to the macro game) and 2) Awesome Teamfighters (that pack wombo combo abilities or abilities that change the outcome of teamfights). Some champs are a good combination of both. I have to emphasize it is SoloQ and it does not take into account complex synergies of champs pros can pull off. We keep it simple. As such, the way I look at Garen. Some points- 1) below average kit (for the 2 soloQ camps' functions i mentioned above) 2) many bad laning matchups 3) Garyummi synergy can work well - makes him a decent botlaner 4) After laning phase, he strangely transformed into a very average Splitpusher/Macro-disruptor. honestly I would not put him into teamfights except for the cleaning up. Changes I would make to Garen - 1) Abilities might need to be reworked. To be a wombo-combo-er = he needs better teamfight burst aoe abilities other than W and spinning. To be a better splitpusher, he might need some vision abilities say a very short activated vision on the old Villian mechanics or just a slight escape ability tweak. 2) gauge the impact of new abilites on laning matchups, tweak his core stats if laning matchups are still worse than average. Core stats affect mainly SoloQ more; abilities tweaks tend to affect a wider spectrum from SoloQ to Pro-play. all i have time for. Darius is more ok compared to Garen in terms of playability. The troll has some major issues too. oh well.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fraggleroc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tfKQGJVE,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-09-22T22:41:29.307+0000) > > they made random changes to Lee Sin and Riven just so they might show up in Worlds. And something affecting the pros is affecting lower level plays - i'm having to see many bad mechanics Lee Sins and Rivens in my games. Ok... that literally doesn't answer my question. If your excuse is "they made random changes already" then I can reply to "you get no changes done to anything you ask" and it'll be just as valid. You want to have an actual discussion or just want to QQ that riot isn't doing the changes you want and then hiding behind nonesense?
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tfKQGJVE,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-09-23T00:41:16.339+0000) > > Ok... that literally doesn't answer my question. If your excuse is "they made random changes already" then I can reply to "you get no changes done to anything you ask" and it'll be just as valid. You want to have an actual discussion or just want to QQ that riot isn't doing the changes you want and then hiding behind nonesense? you are right. I am trying to raise awareness of the issue. Like 99% of what this forum does. It is not hiding behind nonsense. Actual discussion? -All of us have jobs and families. It is senseless to expect thread-starters to have the time to put into detailed format a post that might or MIGHT NOT have a chance to gain enough traction to be viewed by a Rioter. Most of the threads here are mere voices in a crowd. When u get enough of them in unison, it can paint a picture of issues. We are not paid and don't hold jobs at Riot. Just some concerned, pissed-off customers who have played the game for 10yrs and seeing few progress being made.
: Ok... so let me ask you this how would you for example balance the {{champion:122}} vs {{champion:86}} matchup in a way that won't affect every single other matchup of those champions? There are an incredibly small amount of changes that can be done in a vacuum. Every single change you make CAN AND WILL have consequences on so many other things. Some could be good, some could be bad, some could be disastrous. You just cannot just say "{{champion:48}} is too weak against ranged so let's just make this random change to make him better against it" without looking at how would that affect his other matchups.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tfKQGJVE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-22T22:27:41.191+0000) > > Ok... so let me ask you this how would you for example balance the {{champion:122}} vs {{champion:86}} matchup in a way that won't affect every single other matchup of those champions? There are an incredibly small amount of changes that can be done in a vacuum. Every single change you make CAN AND WILL have consequences on so many other things. Some could be good, some could be bad, some could be disastrous. You just cannot just say "{{champion:48}} is too weak against ranged so let's just make this random change to make him better against it" without looking at how would that affect his other matchups. they made random changes to Lee Sin and Riven just so they might show up in Worlds. And something affecting the pros is affecting lower level plays - i'm having to see many bad mechanics Lee Sins and Rivens in my games.
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mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fraggleroc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yPlyKtJR,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T10:54:42.924+0000) > > I get it when most of the pro players will gravitate towards certain builds, but when almost all of them does the same thing... Item builds become meaningless. > > And they are the ones who are supposed to innovate and bring out new interesting stuff... having spent the most time on the game. Be it Starcraft overwatch rainbow 6 seige or magic the gathering or any competitive scene that has huge cash prizes players will always go for the safe route rather than risk something new. If one game of league had a million dollars on the line would you really risk a new build ?
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yPlyKtJR,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T10:56:59.444+0000) > > Be it Starcraft overwatch rainbow 6 seige or magic the gathering or any competitive scene that has huge cash prizes players will always go for the safe route rather than risk something new. > > If one game of league had a million dollars on the line would you really risk a new build ? even when they're playing soloQ ? pretty sure probuilds is based on soloQ histories
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fraggleroc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yPlyKtJR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-14T09:54:25.368+0000) > > https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Mordekaiser > > Every one of them the same... > > EVERY SINGLE ONE ... honestly I hate games with shit like that ... In the pro scene of any game a optimal build will always exist that they all will use.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yPlyKtJR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-14T10:33:33.254+0000) > > In the pro scene of any game a optimal build will always exist that they all will use. I get it when most of the pro players will gravitate towards certain builds, but when almost all of them does the same thing... Item builds become meaningless. And they are the ones who are supposed to innovate and bring out new interesting stuff... having spent the most time on the game.
: A turn-off when I looked at pro-builds
Sample #2 = https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Vladimir
: A turn-off when I looked at pro-builds
I prefer a game that I can improvise and experiment with a lot of builds ...
: gosh look at how underpowered teleport is. where's that guy who was telling me it's "soooooooo weak bro." also morde is the new design philosophy, champions have 1 build that can work in many roles/lanes.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yPlyKtJR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-14T09:57:48.771+0000) > > gosh look at how underpowered teleport is. > where's that guy who was telling me it's "soooooooo weak bro." > also morde is the new design philosophy, champions have 1 build that can work in many roles/lanes. Lousy philosophy I must say. And boring philosophy...
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: A turn-off when I looked at pro-builds
https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Mordekaiser Every one of them the same... EVERY SINGLE ONE ... honestly I hate games with shit like that ...
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: game is doomed, lol reddits new rule
He says you're wearing "a dress".
: anybody still need the 10,000 minions mission? i have the perfect strat
the fact that these missions are boring and meaningless... similarly, i was wasting time spamming intro bots to complete them, when i could be playing the game proper.
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: Do u guys really think TFT will be balanced to an extent like Underlords LMAO
It's why ... Kripp won many games in a row and at least for now is pretty decidedly back to Underlords (where he didnt win a ton of games in a row)
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: Forgotten Project, The King of Fiora
One of those cancer top laners have to face. Riot needs to get off their horse - the whole flashy play = takes skills = balanced approach. Play Garen and have 90% bad matchups = that takes skills.
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: so i wonder if everyone is gonna keep on chiming in with their defense of a troll when it comes out later that he had over 100 reports on his account but they were at reduced value because they're coming from the same people over and over again due to the nature of high elo matchmaking. hahaha when that one drops, you heard it here first.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnQJwRdF,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-19T12:23:41.206+0000) > > so i wonder if everyone is gonna keep on chiming in with their defense of a troll when it comes out later that he had over 100 reports on his account but they were at reduced value because they're coming from the same people over and over again due to the nature of high elo matchmaking. > hahaha > when that one drops, you heard it here first. Our definition of a troll might be different. Only your side refuses to acknowledge that. I main Noct and Karthus top ... I've been accused of being a troll on multiple occasions too. It is your opinion.
DomBaham (NA)
: The Nightblue3 Problem
NB3 should just quit the game since he's said he was so tired and sick of the game and Riot as a company. That would appease all of us.
Leon4167 (NA)
: They'll just end up waiting in the queue for eternity as people will just insta dodge that shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Leon4167,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5xLbeH6d,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-19T01:53:20.188+0000) > > They'll just end up waiting in the queue for eternity as people will just insta dodge that shit. thats what u think. all creative strat started out as unconventional or unusual.
: > [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sK6pmGF3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T06:41:48.677+0000) > > but the main question is though why do higher up pros like said faker able to get away with things like AP yasuo? but the same regular player who plays yasuo (and does well just not faker level good) gets punished. thats the main question here. and yes AP yasuo is definitely the best example i can get since i know theres a game on that with faker playing yasuo with only ap. Ap Yasuo stayes in his lane, I couldn't care less about him, maximaly blame him at the end of the game. If you are staying in my lane, sitting there for whatever reason, bcs of whatever op strat you are doing without my consent, that's different story. If something is so far from normal standarts and affect whole team from start, you need consent period. Stop mixing things, who got banned for offmeta builds while stayng in assignited role? Hell, look at Alicopter, that's what roaming strategy means.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sK6pmGF3,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T06:46:54.281+0000) > > Ap Yasuo stayes in his lane, I couldn't care less about him, maximaly blame him at the end of the game. > > If you are staying in my lane, sitting there for whatever reason, bcs of whatever op strat you are doing without my consent, that's different story. > > If something is so far from normal standarts and affect whole team from start, you need consent period. > > Stop mixing things, who got banned for offmeta builds while stayng in assignited role? Hell, look at Alicopter, that's what roaming strategy means. that's like saying u own a public road and saying it's your Grandfather's road.
: So your agenda is that Teemo needs to be made a support. You are only here to push your agenda and turn a blind eye to everything else presented to you, 0 rationalism. I know for sure that Manco, Hikashikun(another Teemo player) and IPav tried Teemo support but gave up on it because guess what? - It doesn't work. There is no helping it then, I guess. Keep complaining without trying to find a solution. Most Teemo mains currently play their own way because they, instead of complaining like you are right now, shut up and try playstyles, and do what are working for them.
> [{quoted}](name=Almighty Teemo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q4iHaBWQ,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:27:53.446+0000) > > So your agenda is that Teemo needs to be made a support. You are only here to push your agenda and turn a blind eye to everything else presented to you, 0 rationalism. > > I know for sure that Manco, Hikashikun(another Teemo player) and IPav tried Teemo support but gave up on it because guess what? - It doesn't work. > > There is no helping it then, I guess. Keep complaining without trying to find a solution. Most Teemo mains currently play their own way because they, instead of complaining like you are right now, shut up and try playstyles, and do what are working for them. Yes ... His skillset is lacking for the purpose of carrying. Most importantly his R u can throw a mushroom at an enemy while engaging him but it's not a guaranteed hit given its range. Also I believe its lower dps than just AAing the opponent. there is alrdy a solution = They are reworking the champion.
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: Did we all watch the same thing Nubrac couldn't argue his side to save his life. Worse the guy said he knows it's not good. It's like watching people support the joker because he's an asshole.
> [{quoted}](name=Edge of Daybreak,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hV7hEA9h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:19:42.905+0000) > > Did we all watch the same thing Nubrac couldn't argue his side to save his life. Worse the guy said he knows it's not good. It's like watching people support the joker because he's an asshole. NB3 is more comfortable in front of the mic... being the more experienced streamer. Doesn't make him right . He didn't win that debate.
: Assuming you don't know the best Teemo players with quality content, so I'll list them: Teemo jungle can still be played, learn the Manco way. He sometimes plays top too. [Manco's twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/manco1) [Manco's youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu7PdAn3NJipub5wJIz983w) If you want Teemo games at toplane, you can watch Ivan Pavlov(aka IPav) or XBlotter(aka RealTeemo) [IPav's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/ipav999) [IPav's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoOUiBglwGIcnzjBcEQ1uIQ) [xBlotter's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/xblotter) [XBlotter's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6tH4vC7Tm9PT2-HzaB_wg) HangSim is considered by some to be the best Teemo player on KR server [HangSim's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/yang2101y) [HangSIm's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/user/yang2100y) I don't recommend watching TRM. I used to be a big fan of his, but his playstyle and build are troll-ish(not ideal for someone who wants good results) and I don't think he plays that often anymore after he got banned. His old videos are quality but they are from a meta where melee champions were actually melee and did not have overloaded kits.
> [{quoted}](name=Almighty Teemo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q4iHaBWQ,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T13:12:00.691+0000) > > Assuming you don't know the best Teemo players with quality content, so I'll list them: > > Teemo jungle can still be played, learn the Manco way. He sometimes plays top too. > [Manco's twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/manco1) > [Manco's youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu7PdAn3NJipub5wJIz983w) > > If you want Teemo games at toplane, you can watch Ivan Pavlov(aka IPav) or XBlotter(aka RealTeemo) > [IPav's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/ipav999) > [IPav's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoOUiBglwGIcnzjBcEQ1uIQ) > > [xBlotter's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/xblotter) > [XBlotter's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6tH4vC7Tm9PT2-HzaB_wg) > > HangSim is considered by some to be the best Teemo player on KR server > [HangSim's Twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/yang2101y) > [HangSIm's Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/user/yang2100y) > > I don't recommend watching TRM. I used to be a big fan of his, but his playstyle and build are troll-ish(not ideal for someone who wants good results) and I don't think he plays that often anymore after he got banned. His old videos are quality but they are from a meta where melee champions were actually melee and did not have overloaded kits. The examples u gave are streamers trying to make a name playing something different. I do not agree with anyone who says Teemo is something other than a Support. Jungler maybe? but that is debatable as well - I personally havent tried it. What are his clear time and gank potential? His whole ganking is to drop shrooms on a lane in preparation for the enemy to step on them for initiation? Surely he cant waltzed into a lane to gank? He will get jumped on! I feel that Teemo has a support-ish skill set ... with the stealth and shrooms. Yet u have no examples of a Support Teemo. I would believe because he is pretty bad in bot lane. C'mon, there are much better junglers, Top laners that does what Teemo does. Twitch in jungle has better stealth... Lucian Kennen are better ranged laners than Teemo could ever be... Tank Teemo = there are better tanks!
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