: > No, the person who acts like a fuckshit because their precious Senna/Yasuo/Vayne/whatever got banned is dooming the team to fail by reacting poorly to the choices that someone else is entitled to. They're pitching a babyfit because they BOO HOO didn't get their way. > I never said that I troll my team once my pick is banned. I never said that I "pitch a babyfit" either. Those people also suck to have to play with. Yeah it sucks when my picks are banned but I play something else anyway, I don't know why you just keep assuming that I don't and that I don't still try my best to win the game. These are ranked games we're talking about; trolling and flaming doesn't help anyone win games. The whole reason this is an issue to me is because I'm still being trolled in that game by various other people on my team after the fact, even when I'm not playing the banned champ. The constant flaming that lasts from champion select throughout the entire game is what you're saying is totally allowed simply because someone is free (by the system that exists) to ban my champion. What I would have liked, was a response from someone from Riot with an explanation as to how they arrived at this being the best system to implement but instead, I'm getting trolled by someone on the boards that doesn't even work for them but acts like their opinion is absolute authority and you hammer down on anyone else that has any opinion that isn't yours. You haven't provided anything to further this conversation, only trying to shut others down with the only argument to your opinion being "That's how it is, if you don't like it don't play the game." You tell me to play other champs, I do. I play quite a few more champs in ranked games than you did. It seems like you were a one-trick Maokai in Season 9 so maybe I can break it down in terms you can understand. Someone bans your Maokai pick on your own team in 70% of your games. When you ask why they would do that, they respond "Fuck you I don't want that shit on my team". They are the ADC and you are the support. But in lane, they roam around and get killed by the enemy constantly, they don't last hit so they have minuscule farm and they talk shit about you from the time you start the game, till you mute them 5-10 minutes in because all they're doing is trying to make the game as miserable for you as possible without even mentioning that there are 3 other people on the team who are also being defeated by one person's ill behavior. After 10+ games of the same thing over and over again, it really starts to get to you and so you take to the boards to find out why this instance of player behavior isn't being dealt with. Seriously, the only reason I can think of that you would just blatantly defend how things are now is because you act this way yourself. If you think that it's a pleasant experience to be trolled in good majority of your games then that's on you, but it's not fun for me. Also, the "I'm right, you're stupid" approach really isn't working. If you don't have the decency to read what I've taken my time to write, save yourself the time and stop responding, you're helping no one.
> Seriously, the only reason I can think of that you would just blatantly defend how things are now is because you act this way yourself. No, I act within the confines of the rules of the game. In draft pick, bans come first. I don't ban someone's champ just to be a dick, I ban it **because I don't want to see it, which is my right in draft pick.** If someone bans mine, it's disappointing, but oh well.
roopul (EUNE)
: Reportable?
> roopul: and she hit one spell roopul: no r%%%%% roopul: USELESS JUNGLE You're toxic as hell.
Huzada (NA)
: Ridiculous.
Sounds like you need a single player game.
: ggez
It's a meme. Laugh at it. Start saying it when you lose a game for maximum humor. In other words - lighten up.
: Chat banned for no reason
Trust me, you want to be judged by an impartial system. Humans are biased and lazy. The vast majority of us who participated in the Tribunal came to only one conclusion when judging cases - guilty.
: Senna has to be removed from aram
ARAM is supposed to be a shitshow. Try to have fun. I'd rather be against Senna than Garen, Mundo, or Mordekaiser.
: Why I like and dislike the new support items:
Only done one game so far, and the only thing that was mildly irritating on the spellthief's line was the removal of the mana regen. That said, not having to pay almost another 1500 to upgrade the damn thing any more allowed me to get a better mana item earlier.
usul1202 (NA)
: I "accidently" bought last year's edition of the textbook, will that be a problem?
Yes. The author, who coincidentally happens to be your professor, fixed a misspelling in chapter 3 of the ethics book. The old edition is not acceptable any longer.
: wdy mean and? u cant be racist towards ur own race lol
Oh yes the fuck you can. But that's neither here nor there. You made a comment specifically and insultingly calling out someone's heritage in a situation that has nothing to do with it. It's racism no matter how you slice it.
: Bring back Unskilled Player report
Nobody ever got banned for being unskilled. It was a useless report option to make people feel better. The punishment for playing poorly is, and always has been, losing the game.
: Is saying 'cause youre a bad chinese player' perma bannable?
: So I've got a question how one our world champion act like this on stream and not get punished???
Pyrosan (NA)
: wat
He wants the system to tell him how much LP he's going to lose if he loses, that way he can dodge. Not gonna happen. lol
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OyrMEUHO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-20T12:21:00.417+0000) > > LOL, you ain't in cybersecurity, bud. I've been in network operations for 18 years. Want to know how to mitigate risks? Education. > > Users are always responsible for the security of their accounts at their level - that means no sharing of the goddamn accounts. There is no technical system that can be put in place to prevent someone from sharing their credentials with a colleague, friend, or spouse. And they can get fired for doing so. According to the OP, if they are to be believed, there was no account sharing. If youre going to make an argument, try to at least stay on topic.
People lie. He gave him the password.
: THERE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE A "GRACE" PERIOD TO GET HONOR UP FOR SEASON REWARDS!!!!!
The grace period was the entire season. There have been no secrets as to how ranked rewards were going to work this year.
: I just got demoted cause a yasuo fed then quit. At least give out a loss prevention to the players. It's only fair to give players whom actually try to win, even playing a 4v5 some kind of way to not get totally fk'd by toxic people. I'm tired of spending all season trying to climb only to have a feeder and quitter ruin a game.
If you dropped low enough to be demoted, it was from a pattern of losing, not just the single game that finally triggered it. You need to improve if you get into demotion situations.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Youd need to submit a ticket to rito support and file it under your account being compromised To the people saying account security is the individuals job; dont get a job in cyber security. If it wasnt "your friend", your ticket will just get denied.
LOL, you ain't in cybersecurity, bud. I've been in network operations for 18 years. Want to know how to mitigate risks? Education. Users are always responsible for the security of their accounts at their level - that means no sharing of the goddamn accounts. There is no technical system that can be put in place to prevent someone from sharing their credentials with a colleague, friend, or spouse. And they can get fired for doing so.
: 2 sided sword. some ppl will abuse this info to try and avoid the rules while others will be happy to know they are on the wrong ways
It's what's called a slippery slope. OK, so we give one warning before the first chat restriction. Now we have 5 tiers of "punishment." Is that the only warning? Nope, we probably need a warning before every punishment. Three before a perma!
: still would be helpful to have a message go "hey buddy lately your honor progress slowed down not enough to get you punished but we thought we warn you". just my opinion.
They want people to obey the rules, not learn how to skirt the system.
: Is it just me or is the League community getting super soft?
Is it just me, or is the community full of super insecure people who need to insult their teammates and spew negativity in a video game for 45 minutes?
: Could we get some kind of warning regarding toxicity?
The warning is the rules. The fact that you don't think before typing isn't Riot's problem, nor the problem of the people you **choose** to flame. Control yourself.
: Try ACTUALLY reading what I wrote, it's not that hard to understand.
You already replied to me 8 days ago. Why are you necroing this thread? Blind pick is blind pick. There are not roles.
: Ranked Rewards
You don't need to point out when people have bad scores. It's already visible to everyone. This is negative behavior and isn't going to help anyone.
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AlTQyWPF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-19T17:20:16.805+0000) > > Yes, if you reach Honor 2 by tomorrow, you'll get end of season rewards. That's not going to happen. Isnt it today? When i logt in today the client said the season was over.
Ah. You see, I was off from work yesterday so I forgot today was Tuesday, I thought it was Monday. Yup, season's over.
: What if we could have an optional program we could enable to regulate our chat
> This shouldn't be hard You know what else isn't hard? Self-control.
BlueForce55 (EUNE)
: Chat restriction and end of season rewards
> Will i recieve my end of season rewards if i regain my honor level back ? Yes, if you reach Honor 2 by tomorrow, you'll get end of season rewards. That's not going to happen.
: Perma Ban Criteria
> Is mildly passive aggressive chat and the most derogatory insult being "idiot" grounds for perma ban? The system doesn't work by, "X action = Y punishment." The system works by a gradually increasing ladder of punishment. If you had already received a 2-week ban, the next step is a permanent ban.
: First ban and 14 days
So, you got punished for intentionally feeding. Ban's going to stay.
Herethicc (EUW)
: r3t4rd - talking about an enemy champ
: When you are giving me the chat log for restriction, write all of it so ther is context.
You need to think about it this way: The game is not just you and the person you're arguing with. There are up to 8 other people **who just want to play the gaoddamn game**. That's why the context doesn't matter, because when you argue back, you derail the game even more.
Mr Sa1nt (NA)
: When the police catch speeders, the speeders they catch are punished. Why is Tyler allowed to stream his toxic mannerisms to one of the largest Twitch followings? Riot has already caught him, he is not currently punished. I don't expect a perfect system, I expect a fair one.
If Tyler misbehaves **IN GAME** and gets reported enough, he'll be punished. He can't be punished for anything he says or does outside of the game in his stream.
Mr Sa1nt (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=50tgAhEh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-18T23:46:55.255+0000) > > Or, you could follow the rules and just play a video game without flaming the shit out of your teammates. > > Try that one. The title of the thread is "either punish all forms of flame or get rid of the entire sht system", I don't see how that's an argument about following the rules. It's an argument about Riot punishing all toxic parties, or not punishing any.
Just because ALL of something can't be punished doesn't mean NONE of it should be punished. When you go fishing, do you catch ALL the fish? When police catch speeders, do they catch ALL the speeders?
zPOOPz (NA)
: why not post the actual unedited chat log?
Because we need to be convinced that he's the victim.
: 1st game off my ban lets have some fun...or get permabanned...
> (TC) Help me kill this %%%%%% - talking to warwick This is either a 6-letter racial slur starting with N, or a 6-letter homophobic slur starting with F. Why are you surprised here?
: either punish all forms of flame or get rid of the entire sht system
Or, you could follow the rules and just play a video game without flaming the shit out of your teammates. Try that one.
: Riot works really hard to keep the game as toxic as possible.
No, the system is designed to protect those of us who aren't in **either** group. The trolls and the people who retaliate both need to shut the hell up so the rest of us can play a video game.
: Just so you know if someone says xd and lol in the same sentence it is very clearly a joke lol
Just so you know, nobody thinks you're cool or funny.
: Unfairly suspended
Stopped after your first sentence. Do you seriously have to question the fact that hate speech is bad? Be glad you got punished in a video game, and use this as an opportunity to adjust what you think is acceptable because using words like that can cause you to lose friends, relationships, and jobs IRL. Could even earn you a free jaw adjustment.
Zardo (NA)
: >No, the person who acts like a fuckshit because their precious Senna/Yasuo/Vayne/whatever got banned is dooming the team to fail by reacting poorly to the choices that someone else is entitled to. They're pitching a babyfit because they BOO HOO didn't get their way. Way to characterize this as only happening to groups that already have a negative stigma attached to them. It happens to everyone from time to time. >Anecdotes aren't proof of shit. They're not, but they can start discussions. >No, people ARE responding to the topic. You just want them to agree with you, which isn't happening. They aren't responding to the topic, they're restating the fact that people have the ability to ban a champion. Some people are providing valuable input- you are not one of them. It's actually hilarious- you categorize people who pick troll things(which is completely allowed by the system) as babies, but people who ban other people's champions out of spite aren't. People queue up for draft with a champion pick in mind generally(especially since people are told to stick to 2-3 champions to climb). If the enemy bans it out, it's no big deal to them. I've seen it happen and seen people play backups or explain they're a onetrick and to be patient with them. They CAN play other champions. A teammate banning out their champion and saying that they specifically did it to spite them is similar to a support taking all the ADC's cs from the beginning of the game because "lmao you're so shit" when the adc asks why. [REMOVED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO]
Ah, resorting to namecalling, lol. I hope I get to see you in draft champ select sometime.
: New approach to how to deal with leavers.
> If player came back and they've pulled a clutch victory, why would you punish this one player? Because nobody truly knows the reason why they left in the first place. > the voting solution I've presented here completely fixes everything. LOL no. No. You never, ever EVER give players control over what happens to other players. Any time there are player-made decisions, especially when it's a vote, it becomes something that can be abused.
Hyukei (EUW)
: Is there a RP/Damage orb bundles purchase limit?
Riot wants as much of your money as possible. Go nuts!
Zardo (NA)
: It doesn't? In a team game where team cohesion wins games, creating a negative environment from champ select doesn't matter? People who have their champ banned do not react positively. They flip out and troll pick most of the time. So you're dooming your team to fail. Why is it that any time this sort of discussion gets brought up there are people like you who say, "You CAN ban your teammate's hover, that's just the way draft works, deal with it." Nobody is arguing that fact. Everyone here understands that fact. You're stating nonsense. The whole point of these threads is generally to provide anecdotes or reasoning as to why it shouldn't be allowed, and all of the time someone responds with "well it is allowed." That's not even an argument. If you don't want to address what's actually being said, don't comment. If you do want to address what's being said in the post, start by reading it. Particularly lines like this: >Why is this type of player behavior being allowed and why does the current system implemented even allow it to happen? Edit: To note I don't even disagree with the premise that people should be allowed to ban other's hovers. It sucks, but if it's not allowed it can lead to some rather unfortunate circumstances. I just want people to actually respond to the topic.
> In a team game where team cohesion wins games, creating a negative environment from champ select doesn't matter? And why are posts of this nature always from this one single side? Why is it not the person who JUST HAS TO GODDAMN PLAY A SINGLE CHAMP causing a negative experience for everyone else? That person is butting against the rules of how draft pick goes - you can put your pink intent and ask that you play it, but everyone is ENTITLED to their one ban of any champion. > People who have their champ banned do not react positively. They flip out and troll pick most of the time. So you're dooming your team to fail. No, the person who acts like a fuckshit because their precious Senna/Yasuo/Vayne/whatever got banned is dooming the team to fail by reacting poorly to the choices that someone else is entitled to. They're pitching a babyfit because they BOO HOO didn't get their way. > provide anecdotes or reasoning as to why it shouldn't be allowed Anecdotes aren't proof of shit. > I just want people to actually respond to the topic. No, people ARE responding to the topic. You just want them to agree with you, which isn't happening.
: How long do checkpoints take?
At honor 1, checkpoint 2 you still have 2 checkpoints to go before honor 2 (honor 1.3 and honor 2.0). You will unfortunately not get this by tomorrow, but keep playing and keep being honorable - your honor will NOT reset to 2 automatically, you have to earn it back.
Zardo (NA)
: Yes, you can ban a teammate's hover if you want. However, that doesnt mean that you are not an asshole for doing so. Just as I am technically allowed to start csing as support. It doesnt mean that it's something that is healthy and should be encouraged, especially given the context given in the OP.
> However, that doesnt mean that you are not an asshole for doing so. It doesn't matter who's an asshole or not. In draft pick, bans come first. Period.
: So, typical = ok?
Anyone, including yourself, can ban any champion they want for any reason in draft pick.
: Ok, yes let's mince words and make sure we're using the appropriate terminology so you don't get confused as to what I'm talking about. That's why I explained what shadow-picking is so there would be no confusion. Shadow-picking is a leftover term from my Heroes of Newerth days and we also used it in DOTA. Please excuse me using other terminology. I'm fully aware that there is no guarantee that I'll play any champion. I know that the other team can ban them and that's absolutely fine, I even said it's fine and that I accept that. The problem is when it happens consistently to the point that it affects my enjoyment of the game. If someone bans your picks every 2 or 3 games, you're not going to enjoy that either. What it feels like to me is that since it isn't a problem for you, it isn't a problem for anyone. Since you "can" doesn't mean you "should". I know how to play many other champions and I do so with decent success. For you to imply that I don't, just proves that you're trying to sound like you're the authority here and that I should give you some credence when you don't even read my whole post. What you're doing to my post is flaming within the confines of what's acceptable under the ToS. You have a condescending way of talking to people and if you want people to really wanted people to understand or believe you, you wouldn't be so openly hostile with the content of your replies to other people's posts. People that are trying to help others don't speak like you do. Whose authority do you operate under that allows you to tell me I shouldn't play this game? I don't see how you don't consider it a Player Behavior issue when the flood of flaming and trolling and griefing, etc that comes AFTER the ban of my pick is so apparent. If there were no words talking down to me for wanting to play a certain champion OR if there were no actions from my supports or other players on my team for my picks, you would be right; that would not be a Player Behavior issue. But it's LITERALLY how these _players_ are _behaving_ during these games after the ban that is the issue here.
Not reading another 4 paragraphs of drama. Don't play draft pick.
: Incredibly hard to increase honor level once it has been dropped.
It took me until last month to get Honor 5 over the course of the entire season, starting from Honor 2 in what, January? February? That's nearly 10 months. Honor climbing is supposed to be slow and take the entire season to get to H5. I've had to climb from locked honor in a previous season, I forget which. It takes time.
: Are you trying to say that in blind pick I will always get to play the champion I want and that no one else can pick them first? The whole purpose of shadow-picking to begin with is to declare your intent to play that champion so that your teammates won't ban them and that you will get to play them. There's over 100 champions in the game so it feels pretty pointed when someone bans the exact champion that you have selected to play. I would not be here with this post if it happened very seldom, but the problem is that it happens every single day, multiple times a day. It's not that I'm not getting to play because the other team bans her, that's acceptable. The problem is that anyone can ban anything they want as a response to shut down their own teammates. It's all about attitudes towards how they feel about the champion as opposed to how that champion actually functions. The problems here are two-fold. Riot has created a champion that the community is clearly divided over. That division is interfering with my ability to play the game in a way that everyone else is free to, yet I am not allowed because my pick(s) are being banned by my own teammates. I say picks because sometimes this happens when I play Swain support also, yet statistically, Swain is my highest win-rate support with over 50%. in fact, I have an 83% win-rate with Swain support, yet still sometimes my own teammates will ban him when I shadow-pick him as support. The other problem is that trolling and griefing are as normalized in this game as chocolate in Sweden. No one thinks twice about their behavior in so many of the games that I play in that I end up having at the very least one person who is constantly flaming one or more players on their team when they make terrible mistakes, bad calls, 1v5s, etc. and don't think that that doesn't affect the whole team. At it's core, League of Legends is a team game and I understand that these types of behaviors exist in situations where anonymity is allowed. But I'm getting blocked and flamed at champ select simply for my intent to play a certain champion. Certainly you can see how this is a problem?
> The whole purpose of shadow-picking to begin with is to declare your intent to play that champion so that your teammates won't ban them and that you will get to play them. It's not called shadow-picking, it's called pick intent. It's what you would like to play barring other circumstances. Get to play them? No. There is no guarantee you will get to play them. The order in draft pick is Ban > Pick, not Pick > Ban > Pick. > There's over 100 champions in the game Exactly. Learn to play more of them. I'm not even reading your other 3 paragraphs because it's meaningless. This is not a player behavior problem. You need to work within the confines of the game mode you want to play or **don't play it**. You are guaranteed **nothing** and anyone can ban any champion for any reason.
: Not allowed to choose the champs I want to play, why?
Anyone, including yourself, can ban any champion for any reason. This is not a "behavior" that's being allowed. This is how draft pick works, this is how draft pick is always going to work or else it's not draft pick. 17 times a week we see threads about this. You are not always going to get the champion you want. Get used to it or play blind pick.
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