: > [{quoted}](name=WoollyWitch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-11-07T11:42:47.491+0000) > > I play many, many other games besides league, and never in any of those games have I seen the amount of bugs, crashing and/or breaking of a game as much as I see on league. Every time they fix something they break something else. They are a billion dollar company. I don't see any reason they couldn't simply hire more competent people. I love this game, but they need to stop breaking it. You can't play a broken game. Have you played any major multiplayer game on launch ever? I can't think of a single one that went smoothly. Red dead. GTA. Red Dead 2. For honor. Fortnite. Apex Legends. Battlefield. Titanfall. Titanfall 2. hearthstone. These days I play league virtually whenever I want. Its more playable now than it has ever been. It used to go down for days at a time.
This game is 10 years old and has more bugs than most games do at launch CURRENTLY.
: the game is in a great place rn wdym
Compared to when it was worse maybe but saying a dirty diaper smells less bad in winter than summer doesn't make the diaper smell good.
: @RIot Games on Increasing importance & affects of honor in-game
This games punishment and honor system is a joke. One bad game or hell just talking too much can get you punished. You flat out can get permad for calling someone dumb. Riot cares more about weather or not your kindergarten level insult offended someone than if someone just flat out leaves a game. When getting mad in 1-3 games can get you permad but getting honrored and being nice in hundreds gets you like 1 point towards recovery the game is a joke and so it riot and the community of 2 year olds.
: I love when I press a button hoping to use an ability and it just...doesn't go off. Plus all the AFKs.
: I agree the game needs major tuning everywhere from maps, runes, client, matchmaking, client etc. Lets go with a new schedule of preseason 1st patch (2 weeks) 1st boring esports thing with missions to inflate esports viewership (2 weeks after 1st patch) 2nd patch (2 weeks) Msi- 2nd boring esports thing with missions to inflate esports viewership(2 weeks after 2nd patch) 3rd patch (2 weeks) Worlds- 3rd boring esports thing with missions to inflate esports viewership (2 week after 3rd patch) Preseason Season should be like football (american not that crazy european kind) not a baseball season on steroids, speed , cocaine, quad espresso, 8000 pots of coffee and a warehouse of soda all together. That will give dev team enough time to fix the problems with league, create modes and RGM to 100% or at least 80% uptime, give everyone enough time to climb (for those rare people that actually play SR) and still have time to put out another 100 champs and 40 lux skins.
I think you ar emis representing the skins, theres 25 lux skins 17 teemo skins and a minimum of 12 annie skins.
: > [{quoted}](name=Charmy Bird,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=000d0002,timestamp=2019-11-07T13:05:46.763+0000) > > OH the classic "u need to be an expert in something to criticize it" not an expert, just an degree of competence at all. These complaints are as old and time and even more ignorant.
If they are that old even without expertise then they are known yet not fixed. The real incompetence is that.
: > [{quoted}](name=DemiMax,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=000d0001,timestamp=2019-11-07T12:36:45.963+0000) > > Gotta love the "Oh yeah? Well I wanna see you do better!" argument. > > You don't need to know how to code to identify a bug and say that it needs fixing. > People know that bugs happen, the larger the project the higher are the chances that bugs will slip through the cracks in the process of making said project. > > You don't need to have coded a game to know that something isn't right when Morgana's Q goes through an enemy, neither does it take away your right to voice your concerns. > > Seriously... > > {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Just because you see a bug doesn't mean you know why it happens. And the biggest problem with fixing bugs is figuring out WHY it happens. Because it's not a simple change of a value (it can be) but hell the more simple the broken part is, the harder it is to find it because we are humans. We are smarter than computers, computers just run instructions. If we as humans assume something should work when we code and it doesn't, then it could take days or weeks to figure out what we did wrong. And nothing can speed that process up. Experience sure, but League is constantly evolving adding new things adds new logic. Maybe it all works as intended and the Morg Q didn't hit because of the isometric perspective, maybe it's a latency exception, maybe you're just mad you missed? Plenty of my bronze friends say there's a glitch when really I just saw them miss. There's many times I use Lux laser and it hits nothing because of the perspective. Honestly league is consistent enough to give its ranked system some credibility. But I dunno maybe kids these days haven't played the older games with REAL glitches and bugs in them. Back when the standard of polish wasn't "it needs to be perfect."
Yer telling me that in YEARS they cant fix some blatantly obvious bugs? If a skill is going through someone its obviously collision detection or something connected to it.
: "just fix the bugs" oh yeah it's probably that easy "just write a new song" "just make a new characer" "just go run a marathon" I have a question... How many bugs would be an acceptable amount of bugs? Because I've played this game since it came out and let me tell you this game is sooooooooooooooo stable now. Even compared to other games I play, I don't see a serious amount of issues. Sometimes bugs happen. they fix them 99% of the time. Some bugs come and go. Sometimes they fix it, and then something rebreaks the fix. Sometimes they fix it within the hour, sometimes it takes them a month. Have you ever coded anything? how many lines of code were in your project? how many people on your team? How many bugs did you experience? How quick was your turnaround? How complicated was your game?
If stable is what you call the current state i feel bad for the games you end up playing. No they don't fix them 99 percent of the time. The only bugs they fix are the ones that flat out make it impossible to even get in game and even then some of them are still there. On the off chance they accidently fix an actual bug they need to they break it again next patch cause they have no idea how to test anything.
: To be fair that one is at least intentional with the hitboxes. Most games that are PvP have some amount of hitbox extension in order to compensate for lag and its especially important for games like Fighters to make sure combos will land despite knockback variables. In League some champions are combo dependant, so a little bit of it makes sense. That said, the absurd amount of lollipop skillshots that will snag you even when you're more than a whole champion distance away is infuriating. I've genuinely not seen as many lying hitboxes in one game.
My fave is lux r when you are not even close to the skill and it kills you.
: > [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T09:10:12.536+0000) > > Kinda hard when the cannon literally cancels its aa animation and I prepare mine to not let the creep die to other minions. > There's different scenarios that fuck up farming, so why does it even change aggro to something that isnt a champ anyway? every 10 seconds minions reasses their primary target. There is a video on minion intellegence on youtube that explains why they change targets and how often.
: > [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-07T06:17:35.258+0000) > > This^ > It's so incredibly tilting when you want to cs and this piece of trash randomly says, I'ma just run to the backline and lasthit that 1 low hp minion there. always attack after the canon minion and you won't lose cs like that
: but league client _is_ littered with bugs...
: ***
But bronze takes like 20-30 games to get out of even if your mmr is shat
: Ummm. League is broken. Anyone else?
Yep, i think riot specifically targets ex bathesda employees. They want to compete and see who can make a buggier game.
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Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vp3AKjWe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-29T09:53:56.812+0000) > > i want the chat itself to be gone for good. This is the only way. Also can i make it so alt is disabled so i cant alt tab out and die. i have too many bad habits x.x So you want the chat to be gone completely for everyone just because some people can't behave in the chat? Yeahhhhh nope And how do you manage to tab out so that you die? It's not really that hard to not die while tabbed out
Uh using auto hot key only effects me. So i dunno where you are getting remove chat for everyone. That aside i have alt tabbed to change music or video and then come back to be dead. Happens too much. So can we restrict answers to answers of my question instead of questions of why should i? Everyone's different.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Just mute the ally chat
i want the chat itself to be gone for good. This is the only way. Also can i make it so alt is disabled so i cant alt tab out and die. i have too many bad habits x.x
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: > You need to stop releasing things without any consideration for the people who have to fight it. Perfect way to put it.
It's a habit with riot. Making something fun to play as and then not understanding why people quitting their game after having to fight it.
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: It's not necessarily easy to track because they don't always go AFK. Sometimes they just wander in base. If the game started busting everyone that went a whole game without any kills and little CS, we'd be getting into questionable territory.
Im sure it would be insanely easy to track where someone is in game too. If you are actively avoiding pushing grouping warding properly etc it would be time consuming but possible to track it all.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tP90EtcB,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-10T16:45:10.071+0000) > Minions sometimes just randomly target you instead of other minions just cause you hit one minion. This is a game mechanic not a bug??
No minions are supposed to target you over othe rminions only when you attack an enemy champ.
Zeromatsu (EUW)
: > Minions sometimes treat pure skills not skill shots just skills as auto attacks when you hit an enemy single target skills are counted as AA for minion aggro
Pretty sure thats just riot refusing to spend time fixing a bug.
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: Why downvote there's no downside it just makes the 10+ minute syou have to wait including q time champ select loading screen and 3 minutes feel like less of a waste of time. It is not enough of a "reward" for anyone to actually do it.
got it trying to imply theres anything for riot to improve gets your down-voted don't suggest things to make the game better no instead let problems persist forever. GOd i hate this crap community please delete this post so i don't have the urge to try and participate in this shit again.
: if you have a leaver and you need to remake
Why downvote there's no downside it just makes the 10+ minute syou have to wait including q time champ select loading screen and 3 minutes feel like less of a waste of time. It is not enough of a "reward" for anyone to actually do it.
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: There is a day we must all fulfill our destiny! That day is TACO DAY!!!
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mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bjui8y3h,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-28T14:09:44.743+0000) > > You say that but you clearly have not made a new account. Do so. You'll come back with a changed attitude. As I said you have no reason to make a new account that is not your own fault.
But it is not relevant to the issue. There is nothing wrong with smurfing so long as you aren't a jerk to people who may legitimately be new. There is nothing wrong with just making accounts and that aside there is no reason not to. Everyone both new and returning would benefit from this.
: Don't play then
thats a terrible thing to say. The game has horrible problems but could easily be fixed if they put resources into fixing them.
: Do Drafted Champions come from Champion Pool totals?
What about neekos what ifd you get all of one of the 5 stars and 2 neekos then could you have a t3 and a t2 of that 5 star?
: Adding more champions frequently is a horrible idea unless they change the way champions are offered in game. Currently there are: * 13 Tier 1 with 39 of each champion * 13 Tier 2 with 26 of each champion * 13 Tier 3 with 18 of each champion * 10 Tier 4 witih 13 of each champion * 8 Tier 5 with 10 of each champion Ignoring the scaling odds per player level and other player pools, here's what you should expect. Assuming you are offered only T1 champions, the first one gives you a 7.69% (39/507) chance at getting a specific one. A second T1 champion gives you a 7.51% (38/506) chance at getting a duplicate. A 3rd T1 champion gives you a 7.33% (37/505) chance at getting another duplicate. Your odds for getting more duplicates shrink each time you get one. As you level, your chances for even getting the tier you want change in favor of higher tier champions. At level 6, you only have a 25% chance of getting a T1 at all. So hypothetically, if you are level 6 in a sandboxed environment with no opponents and have bought zero T1 champions, your odds of getting a specific T1 champion are 1.92% (39/507 x 0.25). **Adding one champion** If just one more champion is added to the Tier 1 pool for a total of 14, the odds are now shifted downwards for getting specific T1 champions. Odds of the first are 7.14% (39/546). Odds of the first duplicate are 6.97% (38/545). Odds of the second duplicate are 6.80% (37/544). For the hypothetical level 6 with a full T1 pool, that's 1.79%, 1.74%, and 1.70% chances of getting the duplicates for subsequent single slot offerings. If they keep adding more champions, the odds of getting the specific champions you want will continuously drop. If they want to continue adding champions, they need to start restricting available champions to keep the probabilities usable. They already know it's rough with the existing probabilities, which is why Neeko's Help was added to the game. Maybe have a max of 60 champions available at any time, with a rotating champion pool per patch cycle. This is still problematic because every champion contributes to multiple set buffs, so leaving any champions out of the game automatically makes reaching those synergy requirements harder.
I understand what you're saying. However if you have been forced into a category because you got specifically that early on so you commit fully to it, but 3 other people also did. Then you now have the issue of too many for too little. You will be fighting them to hopefully pull those first. I would rather not get the specific champ i want than not get the category i have to commit to. Everyone of course has their preferred champ, but the odds as you stated go down and go down further per added champ. I think it is healthier to focus on specific category than champ. This is auto chess not moba league so you basically have to focus on your team more than your favorite this or that anyways. When the roster is more full you will have more strategic options instead of "Oh three people went the same thing one of them got most of the ones in that thing and now the 2 others just lose because it is too late to commit to anything else and heres nothing left in that category." That is not losing because strategy that is losing because of arbitrary resource limits based on luck. That is not fun. Id rather have champs i personally hate in league but fit the role i need them to in tft than my favorite champs when i go something.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bjui8y3h,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-27T19:43:01.778+0000) > > Not true. You can have not played in years and not remember your login. the question they demand to get your account back are kinda absurd too. > > Also people sometimes just make smurfs. If you forgot your own password and do not have an email to recover it that is on you. In my opinion smurfing is not acceptable and the current level 30 system helps deter that.
You say that but you clearly have not made a new account. Do so. You'll come back with a changed attitude.
: There should be no placements at the beginning of each season (except for the accounts first ranked season). Additionally, I think promos aren't actually needed. Maybe to get into the much higher teirs, but iron to say plat should be promo-less. Just my two cents worth.
Agreed promos are a blight on this game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bjui8y3h,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-27T19:14:08.648+0000) > > You can put restrictions on ranked like say you cant play ranked for like 3 weeks OR make it so only champions with a mastery level of 5 count towards ranked. This is something you should do anyways. > > Too many people buy a champ and then first time it in ranked. they also tend to use reworked champs. So while your at it reset mastery levels for champs you rework and refund any and all tokens and blue essence used on the. This is also something that should have been done long ago too. Yes it would take work to get back in ranked so do that at the start of a new season. > > It fixes a MASSIVE number of problems with ranked right there. It makes new players experience less full trolls and horrible people. It make it so you don't have people like well this is pre 30 so i don't care who then just afk. It also just lets you pick the champs you want instead of getting random stuff you may not care about. I would have gone the other way... I think that making lvl 30 shouldn't automatically qualify for ranked play, and that there should be promos just to assess if the player is ready for Ranked.
Ztoka (NA)
: You don't have to agree with me. I just know I go through too many games not seeing certain champs (even when others aren't building said champs). Regardless of what you want to build, you should still see all the champs available at some point during the game. I get some 4 or 5 tier would be hard to see depending on lvl. Each has their own opinion though. I personally feel the game keeps getting more rng heavy with each patch. <3 your name btw. Teemo is the best champ ever (have a couple accounts w/ teemo in the name)
I agree it feels like it gets more and more rng heavy as well. I think your issue however is a separate one from adding dramatically to the pool.
mack9112 (NA)
: If you are not toxic you only have to go through the level 30 grind once.
Not true. You can have not played in years and not remember your login. the question they demand to get your account back are kinda absurd too. Also people sometimes just make smurfs.
: And then everyones promos are ruined and iron to silver will be infested with noobs.
You can put restrictions on ranked like say you cant play ranked for like 3 weeks OR make it so only champions with a mastery level of 5 count towards ranked. This is something you should do anyways. Too many people buy a champ and then first time it in ranked. they also tend to use reworked champs. So while your at it reset mastery levels for champs you rework and refund any and all tokens and blue essence used on the. This is also something that should have been done long ago too. Yes it would take work to get back in ranked so do that at the start of a new season. It fixes a MASSIVE number of problems with ranked right there. It makes new players experience less full trolls and horrible people. It make it so you don't have people like well this is pre 30 so i don't care who then just afk. It also just lets you pick the champs you want instead of getting random stuff you may not care about.
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kwGifty (NA)
: Please keep this thread going and losing your shit, it's quite entertaining. You need to just realize that it's here to stay and won't be changed get over it or move to something else
I get you are a troll/sadist that thinks its clever but you are not. but I'm not asking for them to remove things I'm asking them to fix things.
mack9112 (NA)
: Riot can’t control the computer you use.
They can control the start of the match not loading in and screwing you. I have loaded in in 10 seconds yet was still loaded in late. Its a bug not a use side problem. Maybe don't just make assumptions?
: Whoever came up with "build a 3-star champion before level 3-1" should be launched into the sun
I managed this, did not enjoy it did not win. Can agree. Make it by 4-1.
: You can get a random legend for 400 tokens which is the total all the free missions will give you. But seriously this is a 2 month long pass so you have all the time in the world to grind whatever you want for only 1650 RP.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=elEEK6gQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-27T04:26:19.606+0000) > > You can get a random legend for 400 tokens which is the total all the free missions will give you. > > But seriously this is a 2 month long pass so you have all the time in the world to grind whatever you want for only 1650 RP. Except it can take 170 dollars to get a lv 3 of the little legend you want. I do not think you will get that with tokens.
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