Tentaku (EUNE)
: I don't mind Trynda when he is a rare sight, but when his playrate raises he needs to be dealt with
Tryn needs to be gutted and left to rot until he gets reworked. But since balance team doesnt care about game health we have to deal with him and wait until mid season for Riot to deal with him. Meanwhile if Amumu is "OP" he is nerfed next patch
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T21:26:11.320+0000) > > Might wanna actually quote stats from sites that display data from every server instead of Korea like U.gg. What site do you prefer then? Why is korea data somehow irrelevent? Youve done nothing but put down what I quote while providing nothing
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T21:32:50.406+0000) > > What site do you prefer then? Why is korea data somehow irrelevent? Youve done nothing but put down what I quote while providing nothing Did you even read? I said U.gg
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T20:47:51.943+0000) > > Where are you even looking at the stats? > > Also Akali is overpowered in high elo and that is where she gets nerfed. These are plat plus stats from op gg. Where do you get your stats? Oh thats right you're not quoting any. Akali isn't broken at high elo. Actual strong picks that get spammed in pro play like xayah or kaisa, of which kai sa is VERY strong considering her pickrate. Don't get touched. There has always been adc bias, this is nothing new. When you have an entire role dedicated to one class type and when it's the only role in the game like that for 10 years that really says it all.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T20:55:26.469+0000) > > These are plat plus stats from op gg. Where do you get your stats? Oh thats right you're not quoting any. > > Akali isn't broken at high elo. Actual strong picks that get spammed in pro play like xayah or kaisa, of which kai sa is VERY strong considering her pickrate. Don't get touched. > > There has always been adc bias, this is nothing new. When you have an entire role dedicated to one class type and when it's the only role in the game like that for 10 years that really says it all. Might wanna actually quote stats from sites that display data from every server instead of Korea like U.gg.
: For sure. If we are gonna talk about crit users overperforming, Cait's one of the huge outliers right now. She still has the headshot buffs she got from when crit items got changed the first time.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T19:25:54.806+0000) > > For sure. If we are gonna talk about crit users overperforming, Cait's one of the huge outliers right now. She still has the headshot buffs she got from when crit items got changed the first time. Cait is disgusting, as she tends to be whenever Riot buffs her.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-09T20:37:05.587+0000) > > Lucian is on a 48% win rate? > > And every lane has champiosn with ridiculous win rates and pick rates not just marksmen lol. Do me a favor and sort by pick rate. Look how many of the picks are marksmen. Lucian has a THIRTY PERCENT. 30 PERCENT. Pick rate with a 48 percent winrate. Kai sa, another supposed high skill adc, 35 percent pickrate. Akali has 20 percent pickrate and a 47 percent winrate and GETS NERFED AGAIN. think about that for a second if you honestly dont think riot is biased toward adcs.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T20:42:53.268+0000) > > Do me a favor and sort by pick rate. Look how many of the picks are marksmen. Lucian has a THIRTY PERCENT. 30 PERCENT. Pick rate with a 48 percent winrate. Kai sa, another supposed high skill adc, 35 percent pickrate. > > Akali has 20 percent pickrate and a 47 percent winrate and GETS NERFED AGAIN. > > think about that for a second if you honestly dont think riot is biased toward adcs. Where are you even looking at the stats? Also Akali is overpowered in high elo and that is where she gets nerfed.
: Considering lucians winrate and supposed difficulty after they just nerfed ryze and akali, he should be nerfed. But he wont be. look at miss fortune and ashes winrate and pick percents, and no nerfs for then. Riot has made it clear marksmen are allowed to be busted.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEkEN7x3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-09T20:35:23.304+0000) > > Considering lucians winrate and supposed difficulty after they just nerfed ryze and akali, he should be nerfed. But he wont be. > > look at miss fortune and ashes winrate and pick percents, and no nerfs for then. Riot has made it clear marksmen are allowed to be busted. Lucian is on a 48% win rate? And every lane has champiosn with ridiculous win rates and pick rates not just marksmen lol.
: What do you all think about Crit Lucian this season? Do you think that it/he will get nerfed?
: Can Heimerdinger be looked at?
Back when the balance team cared about game health Heimer would've been gutted but i'm pretty sure some of the balance team members abuse him and that's why he hasn"t seen a nerf in over a year of being an autowin in bot lane.
: PBE Login wont work
Ask riot support. Thats how it fixed for me.
: There is nothing wrong with a support 1v1ing an ADC in the early game.
> [{quoted}](name=LightswornLance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PUKPZ7GV,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-07T23:58:38.722+0000) > > There is nothing wrong with a support 1v1ing an ADC in the early game. That is your opinion. IMO there's everything wrong with it because that is precisely the reason why All-in Supports are OP.
: How we went to "i lose,mb i did some mistakes" to "i lose, look at my mates 0/10 !"
{{champion:111}} Can pretty much solo your ADC during the laning phase, imagine what happens when he and his ADC are ahead? Literally impossible to survive him. The game has too much damage, everything can 100-0 you with 1 item when you fall behind that is why avoiding deaths is pretty much impossible unless you stay at base.
HideSide (EUNE)
: If Varus had the old lore written only in better version then the human would be Varus and darkin could have double A name. What a shame that he doesn't have double A name... I really wonder why I got downvoted for stating that darkins were more interesting as otherworldly creatures than fallen Egyptian sublevel gods. With them as aliens we get more diversity, we can expect more and greater things than from something that was made to fit the plot of runeterra. This way, as darkins are now, they got their lore potential gutted. We wont get otherworldly kingdom with its army, nor whats going on in otherworldly realm nor fraction specialized against otherworldly darkins nor anything else related to otherworldly realm... You may argue: "But we got ascended." But they could be there even without darkins.
> [{quoted}](name=HideSide,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=la7bOhUz,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-07T10:48:13.519+0000) > > If Varus had the old lore written only in better version then the human would be Varus and darkin could have double A name. What a shame that he doesn't have double A name... > > I really wonder why I got downvoted for stating that darkins were more interesting as otherworldly creatures than fallen Egyptian sublevel gods. With them as aliens we get more diversity, we can expect more and greater things than from something that was made to fit the plot of runeterra. This way, as darkins are now, they got their lore potential gutted. We wont get otherworldly kingdom with its army, nor whats going on in otherworldly realm nor fraction specialized against otherworldly darkins nor anything else related to otherworldly realm... > You may argue: "But we got ascended." But they could be there even without darkins. Darkin as aliens made way more sense.
: Hello Varus hello... is there anybody in there?
Varus is a second class citizen in this game, just like many other champions he simply doesn't matter. Only thing that matters for Riot is their band skins.
: With the other games I play getting like no skins, no events, no map changes, no cosmetics, nothing............I feel like League is the game I'm the MOST happy with. I know I've only been playing a year and don't know how events used to be, but at least with this game we've had new skinlines and/or events every month.......where other games I play go months with literally nothing and it's so boring on those games. I genuinely don't understand why people are so miserable with League with all the stuff we've gotten this year. Maybe it's because Idk how it used to be........anyways, here's to a wave of downvotes -_-
> [{quoted}](name=xox BaByDoLL xox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NgAXebd3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-07T01:45:31.875+0000) > > With the other games I play getting like no skins, no events, no map changes, no cosmetics, nothing............I feel like League is the game I'm the MOST happy with. > > I know I've only been playing a year and don't know how events used to be, but at least with this game we've had new skinlines and/or events every month.......where other games I play go months with literally nothing and it's so boring on those games. > > > I genuinely don't understand why people are so miserable with League with all the stuff we've gotten this year. Maybe it's because Idk how it used to be........anyways, here's to a wave of downvotes -_- Because my favorite champion is garbage due to Riot not wanting to balance the game. Its not that their events are bad, thats not the issue. Is that they take forever to address issues about game state.
: "Play X Champ" is not counterplay
A dumb argument used by dumb people.
: Riot is doing nothing for league.
I swear the only thing they work on is on skins for Lux, Ahri and Akali and random number buff-nerfs. We've been complaining about the same shit for like 3 seasons now and Riot still doesn't do anything.
: Imagine if riot didnt relise any of last 2 years champ and the reworks, What game would be like ?
: Just remind everyone That kaisa Still exist in game.
> [{quoted}](name=Hi Its Scirocco,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zt6RVdet,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-06T21:23:52.848+0000) > > for how long is kaisa gona remain like this ? Until Aphelios is released and Riot nerfs her allowing Aphelios to dominate bot lane and sell all his skins.
: Didn't get he a rework relatively recently? Kind of hard to call him old garbage.
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LgnYrIGT,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-05T21:40:02.692+0000) > > Didn't get he a rework relatively recently? Kind of hard to call him old garbage. He's gotten so many reworks (precisely because he is favored by riot) that his powerbudget is nonexistent, just like new champions.
: I mean some of the old champs dont have an existing powerbudget either, just ask Riven who has non-powerbudgeted animation cancels that makes her kit way too strong for what it should have been.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LgnYrIGT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T21:32:38.769+0000) > > I mean some of the old champs dont have an existing powerbudget either, just ask Riven who has non-powerbudgeted animation cancels that makes her kit way too strong for what it should have been. Yeah thats why i said "old garbage" riven is popular so they dont care about fixing an unintended feature on her.
Sirsir (NA)
: The Ryze Problem
Ryze's problem is that he doesn't have a powerbudget. If he has a playmaking ultimate then his kit shouldnt be compensated for not having a damaging ultimate. Nowdays powerbudget only exists for old garbage champions and that is why balance sucks.
: Can riot just do an obvious change to champions to make them viable instead of reworks?
Because that takes work OP. Balance team only knows how to shift numbers around and call it "balance"
Naalith (NA)
: Riot's justifications for several preseason changes don't make any sense
Change for the sake of change. That is the logic behind Riot's decisions.
: What are some nastiest matchups that can make people regret living?
{{champion:110}} Into {{champion:56}} Prepare to die before you even blink for even attempting to play the game.
: having glasses means you can no longer enjoy a bowl of hot noodles, or any soup for that matter.
: The Back and Fourth Karma Buffs/Nerfs Needs to Stop. Give Her a GU and Prioritize It.
If only Karma had a blue skin and was a male she'd get a rework every year.
Exdeus (NA)
: Unpopular Opinion: Ryze is not overpowered
Yeah i gotta play another mage against him. Counterpicking isn't counterplay.
csmsuper (NA)
: lol bro, you know that you can qss nocturne ult right? Or if you have banshee's veil up when he ults then you wont lose vision.
> [{quoted}](name=csmsuper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gwahBz9Q,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-03T16:11:39.229+0000) > > lol bro, you know that you can qss nocturne ult right? Or if you have banshee's veil up when he ults then you wont lose vision. So what? I sti get one shot before his model even touches me. But i forgot this 2019 LoL where its acceptable for everything to oneshot me with 0 counterplay because i like playing champions like Varus.
Laçez (EUW)
: Why is Jax the way his is?
He is a walking ball of stats that Riot keeps relevant for whatever reason.
Jacksin (OCE)
: Varus' story as a human wasn't even changed that much
His lore feels too half assed too me now. Old lore was generic but it had a certain appeal. It also had a league judgement which was kinda cool. But this new lore... first it got retconned making his comics pretty much irrelevant and his personality non-existent. Also his model and voice lines have yet to be updated which adds more to how half-assed his lore is.
: Yeah, they mean nothing, because they were never SUPPOSED to.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurst,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ExAFtxIv,comment-id=000c00000001,timestamp=2019-12-02T15:29:47.641+0000) > > Yeah, they mean nothing, because they were never SUPPOSED to. If they are not supposed to mean anything how do we even balance this game then? How do we create champion diversity if in the end there's not a design philosophy to aid developers? Qiyana having more utility and CC than most champions despite being an "assassin" who has no business initiating teamfights or locking up multiple targets. Kai'sa being an "marksman/Assassin" with abilities that scale harder than champions like Varus intended to be "Marksman/Artillery" Some champions only for of weakness and counterplay is supposed to be their high cooldowns. Yet nowdays most classes are allowed to reach 40% CDR without sacrificing any stats for it. Of course that if champions classes truly mean nothing then i guess its safe to say that the only guideline Riot uses to balance their game is their own personal bias and favoritism towards certain champions which is even more problematic. Of course i'm not claiming that champion classes should be followed blindly and in 100% of the cases, it is necessary to deviate from it from time to time otherwise every champion design becomes stale but to simply ignore it?
IainG10 (EUW)
: My favourite example of this completely braindead and just plain wrong classing system is that Mundo, the tankiest character is the game, is not a tank... I get that Riot want to be different, but the fact that both their classing system goes against EVERY other game AND the fact that they don't even obey their own class guidelines show that in this case they are just talking out of their asses....
> [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ExAFtxIv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-02T04:30:57.780+0000) > > My favourite example of this completely braindead and just plain wrong classing system is that Mundo, the tankiest character is the game, is not a tank... > > I get that Riot want to be different, but the fact that both their classing system goes against EVERY other game AND the fact that they don't even obey their own class guidelines show that in this case they are just talking out of their asses.... Well his itemization is full tank but his playstyle is a juggernaut (His job isn't to lock down targets or protect his team through CC but rather to run at the enemy team and be a nuisance while he tries to take someone down. Other juggernauts can't build full tank, usually they build 3-4 damage items and then tank. > [{quoted}](name=Sucction,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ExAFtxIv,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-12-02T13:11:02.124+0000) > > It's more what they're *meant* to be than what they currently are. > > Vlad isn't meant to be a burst mage, but because damage is so high, drain-tanking doesn't really work anymore, and so he's balanced around a full AP build, much like Viktor with his supposed DoT spells. > > I agree with the first one though, none of those champions have "high-end" burst damage. They have burst for sure, but it's nothing like a full annie or fizz combo, which is what I'd consider to be high-end. Then their priority should be keeping identity alive. Damage being so high its just a symptom IMO. Of course that by making everyone have the damage their class supposedly isn't meant to have you force them to abandon other parts of their play-style that are necessary in keeping diversity and the health of the game. About the burst thing; The fact that they don't burst as hard as Annie or Fizz is irrelevant IMO. As long as they have enough burst to kill squishy champions before they can react its enough. Riven can 100-0 most squishies with 2 items and she doesn't even build lethality. Even Yi's damage is so frontloaded that he only needs 1 item to be a threat.
: As a 600k Soraka main the very existence of Senna is just a slap in the face
Senna needs to be gutted. That champion is a slap to the face of everything
Comentários de Rioters
: At this point roles dont even feel relevant.
Because Riot just allows everything do damage and build a bunch of CDR Vlad runs around 100-0 everything in one rotation all while doing a lot of AOE damage and being a bitch to kill. Balance does not exists in this game, the balance team needs to be replaced entirely for people that actually understand how a MOBA should be balanced.
: The real problem with Senna ADC is her SUPPORTS.
She just has too much in her kit. She has the ability to sustain, can follow up with her root, Senna's root is pretty much a death sentence in lane, which gives her a lot of agency that honestly she shouldn't have. The only way to deal with senna is gutting her, her can't be balanced, as usual with Riot.
: Senna NEEDS to be given a HARSH choice. DAMAGE or UTILITY.
Meaningful gameplay choices are only for old champions.
TheGrot (NA)
: Riot Should Remove JG Autofill
Jungle needs to be changed honestly. It is the only role that a team can't carry if it plays badly. Your ADC, Top, Mid Supp can feed and the game is still winnable but your jungler feeds/plays badly/falls behind? GG he is just useless after that . This is why games feel like a coin flip.
Culinary (NA)
: Daily reminder that Xerath has not gotten a skin since April 2015.
We needed to give Lux a Visual Update, no time for Xerath skins.
datfatguy (OCE)
: If you're struggling in low elo, I highly recommend picking up Master Yi
Terozu (NA)
: Lux's Ability Effect Update video
Oh yes apart from getting every damn skin in the world she gets prioritized for updated visual effects (which will probably replaced when she receives her VU) under the guise of a passion project what a god damn coincidence the art team is so passionate about Lux, i couldn't really tell from the amount of lore, updated voice lines and skins she gets! Great job Riot!!
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: not only that but twitch can never be viable because when he is, he oneshot everyone out of stealth, and assassins can't do anything against him because he shoots first from miles away it's the same shit with jinx, you can't assassinate an adc with high range who kills you in 3 hits, especially not when they have an entire team as a shield
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcAFAYV7,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-28T20:40:34.400+0000) > > not only that but twitch can never be viable because when he is, he oneshot everyone out of stealth, and assassins can't do anything against him because he shoots first from miles away > > it's the same shit with jinx, you can't assassinate an adc with high range who kills you in 3 hits, especially not when they have an entire team as a shield People have forgotten what counterplay actually looks like not just Riot. Like thank god twitch is not allowed to be viable
: Nightbringer Lee ? Stick to muay thai/god fist...
Lee's default model has needed an update for a long time now. Better make more skins for Kaisa/Lux/Riven tho.
: Riot: Yeah we'd really like to develop Vlad's theme, lots of potential, maybe one day. Other games:
But you should be unappreciative OP. Everything this company does is half assed. As if Vlad needed a new skin that is more of the same instead of a visual update. (Just like a bunch of other champions) This company deserves all the shit it gets for how they treat older champions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=afqItML8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T21:22:00.976+0000) > > You try to move out and die anyways because apart from shroud having no counterplay the rest of her kit isnt outplayable either. You wot ? lmao.... You know how to beat akali? stay close to her lol... She has to activate her passive by moving away from you then back at you. If you match her speed gg... she literally can't activate her passive where a majority of her damage comes from.. Even if she E's, wait for her to activate it again and get an easy as hell bind in as she comes tumbling straight at you, then wreck her day up... She is literally the easiest champion of all assassins and bursters to counter, and you odn't even need to spend gold to do it, unlike ekko, zed, leblanc, etc. all which require 1000's of gold to counter them..
> [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=afqItML8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-28T03:02:12.396+0000) > > You wot ? lmao.... > > You know how to beat akali? stay close to her lol... She has to activate her passive by moving away from you then back at you. If you match her speed gg... she literally can't activate her passive where a majority of her damage comes from.. > > Even if she E's, wait for her to activate it again and get an easy as hell bind in as she comes tumbling straight at you, then wreck her day up... > > She is literally the easiest champion of all assassins and bursters to counter, and you odn't even need to spend gold to do it, unlike ekko, zed, leblanc, etc. all which require 1000's of gold to counter them.. STAY CLOSE TO HER 4HEAD. Ignore her Q 50% slow 4HEAD Ignore her shroud 40% MS boost 4head You are too delusional lmao. HEY GUYS JUST STAY CLOSE AND WRECK HER! ITS TO EASY CHALLENGER PLAYERS CAN'T THINK OF IT 4HEAD
: It's called a brain. She uses it, you move out, she follows, has no defense, she doesn't, you get to pick on her when it ends, as she's made of wet tissue paper.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=afqItML8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T19:30:48.428+0000) > > It's called a brain. > > She uses it, you move out, she follows, has no defense, she doesn't, you get to pick on her when it ends, as she's made of wet tissue paper. You try to move out and die anyways because apart from shroud having no counterplay the rest of her kit isnt outplayable either.
: Riot **completely** understands that those of us who were around at the time absolutely fucking **HATED** 60 minute games that would never end because there were no mechanics to try and move the game along. Right now it's preseason and all of these changes are new, people are surrendering games too early, things like that. Some games are a little too short for my liking, but again, all of this is new. I sure as hell don't want to go back to games where neither team is interested in ending.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jfUG5kKv,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-27T15:48:00.910+0000) > > Riot **completely** understands that those of us who were around at the time absolutely fucking **HATED** 60 minute games that would never end because there were no mechanics to try and move the game along. Right now it's preseason and all of these changes are new, people are surrendering games too early, things like that. Some games are a little too short for my liking, but again, all of this is new. I sure as hell don't want to go back to games where neither team is interested in ending. People are surrendering because it isn't fun. Having items is fun, having time to comeback from the mistakes OTHER players made is fun. That is what Riot doesn't understand, just because my jungler played like ass doesn't mean 4 other players should have no chance at winning. It's why everybody hates champions like Vlad/Vayne/Kayle etc.
Tilt chan (OCE)
: I think League of legends' balance team is actually doing a good job
Because you don't play an unpopular shit champion that gets ignored patch after patch while they keep other champions strong for profit. I guess i'd say the same too.
datfatguy (OCE)
: Why is full build so rare now
Riot sucks and doesnt understand their own game.
: Can Kai'sa not be meta for 1 patch?
Balance favoritism at its finest,
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