mitchard (NA)
: This can't be true. I'm having the same issue and it didn't start until patch 9.19. So unless suddenly, on the day of 9.19, my computer just so happened to have the issues that made this just start happening, wow. But the likelihood of that being the case is basically zero. So I think it's safe to say that this isn't JUST an issue on my end.
Same, I am having this issue, but worse. Every game is delay a bit that the first draft is already complete, I was never able to get what I wanted. And about 1/3 games the game is crashed in the loading screen, I can hear the BGM but nothing change and I was forced to close the game and had a nightmare start on my game.
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: Your choice to remake. Also I can give a rats asss about patches cause why cry about something that really isn't a issue
one afk every game, 10% dc rate isnt an issue?
: No one said you had to remake . Remaking is a personal choice
Think about what I complain? I complain about the garbage 9.14 patch, garbage server, garbage balance, and garbage bugs. And a remake is an obvious choice when someone afk? I ain't got no sht time to play a 4v5 when I am the support and my ADC afk. u be like "my dog poops on my bed and I think cleaning it up is not the obvious choice, maybe I should just sleep with the poop tonight".
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I FK AFK (NA)
: I would take that, I hate afk so much, more than anything in this game, I rather deal with toxic players and noobs, but not afks.
> [{quoted}](name=Fck Kayle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gOIBz8zx,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-01T21:51:29.033+0000) > > I would take that, I hate afk so much, more than anything in this game, I rather deal with toxic players and noobs, but not afks. and sry didnt answer properly, I would be fine not taking LP if the game was pretty close, like within 5k gold difference. But if my team was up like 10k gold and ppl in the other team afk, then no i deserve gaining LP.
: So are you ok to not gain LP when you win due to a enemy going afk?
I would take that, I hate afk so much, more than anything in this game, I rather deal with toxic players and noobs, but not afks.
: Couple of questions... Do you use op.gg before games? Do you dodge?
for opgg, depends, sometimes i do sometimes i dont. dodge only in arurf/aram and sometimes normal if someone go hard troll pick like adc rammus, and never dodge in ranks.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Classic Virgo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-24T03:51:00.549+0000) > > thanks for the comment bronze 3, get gud btw. And thats your epic comeback? That really tells Us lots about.And if u look at my match history I have not been on in almost 2 month. Guess your mad because everyone is disagreeing with you.
> [{quoted}](name=speedameen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-24T04:14:32.575+0000) > > And thats your epic comeback? That really tells > Us lots about.And if u look at my match history I have not been on in almost 2 month. > Guess your mad because everyone is disagreeing with you. thanks for the comment bronze 3, get gud btw.
: Awww I’m gonna quit the game and refund all my skins Because they nerfed my horny Ornny and buffed good boi nasus Dude do u know how dumb you sound.
> [{quoted}](name=speedameen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-22T03:10:23.166+0000) > > Awww I’m gonna quit the game and refund all my skins > Because they nerfed my horny Ornny and buffed good boi nasus > Dude do u know how dumb you sound. thanks for the comment bronze 3, get gud btw.
: > I was an aggressive ornn kept going W and trade, 95% of the time I will win the trade, That was THE huge problem of what Ornn has: He almost never loses lane & short trades due to how overloaded his W was. Other than that, he was absolutely dominant in teamfights with his ult having such a wide area of AoE knockups & slows. The changes he has right now is definitely needed. Could be underpowered, but a tweak or two should balance him up.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-21T04:46:32.925+0000) > > That was THE huge problem of what Ornn has: He almost never loses lane & short trades due to how overloaded his W was. Other than that, he was absolutely dominant in teamfights with his ult having such a wide area of AoE knockups & slows. The changes he has right now is definitely needed. Could be underpowered, but a tweak or two should balance him up. That sounds very reasonable and correct, I got S+ in my first game on ornn and I thought I am good, maybe this champion was too easy and now riot need it to be at a balance position, now everything makes much more senses, but still I want them to buff his early game a bit more, at least making him survivable in lane.
: > [{quoted}](name=Classic Virgo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-20T21:39:09.915+0000) > > 1 in opgg showed that hes actually the 2nd worst in win rate of all champions, 2 and 3 yes they are just my opinions. Yes his passive is actually op now but this only applies when it is late game, with ornn's W shield now gone, and the W cooldown is higher, he cannot survive the early game at all if the opponent plays aggressively. He also receives some base stats buff, but like phreak said(randomly found the video on the board) that base stats are mostly completely useless, probably when we build the first items(not the starting item). I mean he still a tank 3 of the bottom winrate tanks are there because they are tanks doesnt mean hes not one of the better ones if you look theres a pattern pretty much all tanks how low winrates simply because they are all pretty shit. Ornn doesnt need a buff only thing they can do for him at this point is buff his stats which he doesnt really need his damage is good his tankyness for a tank in season 8/9 is good ornn is shit because tanks are shit. He can shit on most bruisers toplane you need to aim for quick trades if the fight goes on you will 9/10 lose when you do this bruisers early on arnt really THAT tanky so if you hurt them pretty good and back off they will most likely think twice about doing it again. Wave control is very important on all champions but for tanks like ornn you need to allow your jungler to be able to gank ur lane since you got good engage ganking for someone like ornn is super easy but it works the same way if youre pushed up ornn is super easy to gank since hes a fat ass tank getting away is sort of difficult. Ornn is specific doesnt need help tanks in general need help buffing him will only lead him to being OP when he doesnt need it. A lot of people think that if their champion is shit the champion itself needs a buff and for Ornn this isnt the case since 90% of tanks have the same issues Ornn does.
> [{quoted}](name=BrightWîngs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-01-21T10:38:32.216+0000) > > I mean he still a tank 3 of the bottom winrate tanks are there because they are tanks doesnt mean hes not one of the better ones if you look theres a pattern pretty much all tanks how low winrates simply because they are all pretty shit. Ornn doesnt need a buff only thing they can do for him at this point is buff his stats which he doesnt really need his damage is good his tankyness for a tank in season 8/9 is good ornn is shit because tanks are shit. > > He can shit on most bruisers toplane you need to aim for quick trades if the fight goes on you will 9/10 lose when you do this bruisers early on arnt really THAT tanky so if you hurt them pretty good and back off they will most likely think twice about doing it again. Wave control is very important on all champions but for tanks like ornn you need to allow your jungler to be able to gank ur lane since you got good engage ganking for someone like ornn is super easy but it works the same way if youre pushed up ornn is super easy to gank since hes a fat ass tank getting away is sort of difficult. > > > Ornn is specific doesnt need help tanks in general need help buffing him will only lead him to being OP when he doesnt need it. A lot of people think that if their champion is shit the champion itself needs a buff and for Ornn this isnt the case since 90% of tanks have the same issues Ornn does. Sorry I disagree about ur opinions, my main and best tanks in order are shen, ornn, sion, maokai... I could easily crushed any champions if it is not hard countered match up and enemy jg doesnt hard camp, I do not see any "tank champs are bad now" issues happens to my shen sion and maokai. Next I do not think ornn is as tanky as he was with W shield, shen has his passive shield every few seconds, sion has his W can tank for ages, maokai passive heals, ornn has none of these defensive abilities. Yes maybe I have am bad and finding a good trade time, because ornn never loses trading with his old W, now not anymore. And I kinda look at each every bruisers and tanks, almost all of them has some types of shielding or healing: vlad Q, aatrox R, urgot W, sion W etc, the only champs that have no shields or healing are pantheon, fiora, kled(kinda..), singed, wukong, gnar, and ornn.
: > [{quoted}](name=Classic Virgo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-20T21:39:09.915+0000) > > with ornn's W shield now gone, and the W cooldown is higher, he cannot survive the early game at all if the opponent plays aggressively. unfortunately.... read an article the other day with claimed 9.2 patch notes. and according to that their adding 2 seconds to the cooldown... making this worse... (if true) seems strange to me. to nerf a champ that was just reworked, and has the lowest win rates in game.
> [{quoted}](name=keccak256,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T02:10:36.128+0000) > > unfortunately.... read an article the other day with claimed 9.2 patch notes. and according to that their adding 2 seconds to the cooldown... making this worse... (if true) > > seems strange to me. to nerf a champ that was just reworked, and has the lowest win rates in game. probably because ornn was a popular choice since its release in pro plays, and riot does not want it? ornn was just always the best pick besides the broken must pick/ban champs in most of the season for pro plays.
: > [{quoted}](name=Classic Virgo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-21T01:48:46.466+0000) > > my main concern on him is early game. Before the changes I always win trades easily, but after the changes hes early game is so bad, I understand that his late game is gonna be beast but the problem is I never able to get to late game. Before the changes my KDA on him was like 3, but after the change is like 0.4. Maybe I couldnt accept the fact that all he need to do early is turtle undertower. idk guy his mana costs early are way down, just q poke and farm safely, do the old zed trick of csing a minion and hitting the enemy laner with q to make it extra useful and if he uses an ability start your combo. once you fire q its give ore take .3 seconds, idk before you have to e, ive played him nonstop since the rework so now i hit the q as it comes up and they dont expect it. then while they are in the air i w and auto, then reset. his w is also useful early as i said. when riven comes q ing at me lvl 2 i let her use one or 2 of them and and on her 3rd q i w the knock up so it doesnt hit me and then auto her with the empowered auto. q her as she runs away. last but not least itemzing is really important. ninja tabi first into trynd,kled, etc. abyssal mask into aps, sunfire into melee ad and frozen gauntlet first into champs that can run away. these will help you win friend
> [{quoted}](name=Seraphim117,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T02:04:14.954+0000) > > idk guy his mana costs early are way down, just q poke and farm safely, do the old zed trick of csing a minion and hitting the enemy laner with q to make it extra useful and if he uses an ability start your combo. once you fire q its give ore take .3 seconds, idk before you have to e, ive played him nonstop since the rework so now i hit the q as it comes up and they dont expect it. then while they are in the air i w and auto, then reset. his w is also useful early as i said. when riven comes q ing at me lvl 2 i let her use one or 2 of them and and on her 3rd q i w the knock up so it doesnt hit me and then auto her with the empowered auto. q her as she runs away. last but not least itemzing is really important. ninja tabi first into trynd,kled, etc. abyssal mask into aps, sunfire into melee ad and frozen gauntlet first into champs that can run away. these will help you win friend how do u consider ur laning style, aggressive or passive? I was an aggressive ornn kept going W and trade, 95% of the time I will win the trade, but now trading as ornn is complete trash. I watched a video that someone just sit under tower turtle farm and build first item redemption, for base mana regen and health, and he won the match up. But building redemption first item really tells how bad ornn early game is, best item to turtle and with great regens.
: Bro I got m6 since the buffs and am 1 s+ away from m7. all you do is chain brittle dmg for up to 20.5% MAX HEALTH and then at lvl 13 i have yet to find a champ that can beat with the same gold income cause this thug gets 2000k gold in stats just for lvling. He fantastic right now, the only way to beat him is to hard kite and even then he will EVENTUALLY get you. he doesnt even need to us autos to farm now cause his q is so low mana cost and his w unstoppable makes for serious plays, using it into camille e for example to totally negate the stun... etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Seraphim117,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-20T22:28:21.231+0000) > > Bro I got m6 since the buffs and am 1 s+ away from m7. all you do is chain brittle dmg for up to 20.5% MAX HEALTH and then at lvl 13 i have yet to find a champ that can beat with the same gold income cause this thug gets 2000k gold in stats just for lvling. He fantastic right now, the only way to beat him is to hard kite and even then he will EVENTUALLY get you. he doesnt even need to us autos to farm now cause his q is so low mana cost and his w unstoppable makes for serious plays, using it into camille e for example to totally negate the stun... etc. my main concern on him is early game. Before the changes I always win trades easily, but after the changes hes early game is so bad, I understand that his late game is gonna be beast but the problem is I never able to get to late game. Before the changes my KDA on him was like 3, but after the change is like 0.4. Maybe I couldnt accept the fact that all he need to do early is turtle undertower.
: He'll get buffs next patch, more work in the following one. People have success on him in the jungle though, since he doesn't have a laner that could shit on him there.
base stats buff are mostly useless, I do think that base stats are only useful before building the very first item(not starting item).
: The real question is what champion does ornn actually beat toplane?
Almost any melee champions that does not have healing abilities.
: 1 no hes actually one of the better tanks toplane 2 just because you "believe" tanks win late game doesnt mean you should win every game 3 no Alistar cant 1v1 Ornn he will lose EVERY time thats just a dumb claim....
> [{quoted}](name=BrightWîngs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-20T21:26:02.791+0000) > > 1 no hes actually one of the better tanks toplane 2 just because you "believe" tanks win late game doesnt mean you should win every game 3 no Alistar cant 1v1 Ornn he will lose EVERY time thats just a dumb claim.... 1 in opgg showed that hes actually the 2nd worst in win rate of all champions, 2 and 3 yes they are just my opinions. Yes his passive is actually op now but this only applies when it is late game, with ornn's W shield now gone, and the W cooldown is higher, he cannot survive the early game at all if the opponent plays aggressively. He also receives some base stats buff, but like phreak said(randomly found the video on the board) that base stats are mostly completely useless, probably when we build the first items(not the starting item).
: Why not play someone else if you don't like ornn? The Meta changes, and a late game adc should beat an ornn (like Kai, and vayne)
> [{quoted}](name=Highvoltage999,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEddOwT2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-20T21:17:32.535+0000) > > Why not play someone else if you don't like ornn? The Meta changes, and a late game adc should beat an ornn (like Kai, and vayne) I should stated mainly about early game. ornn was known as pretty op laning and one trick R with his passive late game, but now he cannot survive early game, late game never comes. Yes I do play other tanks, maybe just like my name being a virgo, if things cannot be perfectly done then I would not do it. I play picks and bans, so I dont want to have the type of feelings that "oh he picked XX, my ornn can beat him, wait I dont have ornn because hes too bad now." For me, having all of my own champions playable and pickable consider perfect, maybe.
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: Zac, Ornn, Camille or kled?
ornn is trash, absolutely trash since the 9.1 mini rework, do not even think about playing him.
: yep. while many players love it, others hate it, or only really play leauge when urf is live.
ye, playing urf is like dealing with drugs
: Death of a Marksman? -- "Marksmen are feeling the brunt of "adapt or die" that every other lane has always faced over the years. It's just happening all at once now."
At first, I wanna say I like playing late game. I like the thoughts about having more playstyle in the bottom lane like Top has tank/fighter, Mid has mage/assassin. But I do not think marksman is changeable, tanks and fighters work similar late game, mages and assassins as well, but marksman late game is a MUST to me. So yea I quit this game and only participate when there are great events like the VS Events recently to get free stuff (farming in AI games, urf or Aram). I will not be back until opgg shows that the top 10 of the highest pick rate champions in the bottom lane are all marksman. And I also quit watching pro games, I used to watch about 10 hours per week at NA+EU+LPL. But now, not a single second, I only watched the highlight of Rift Rivals between LCK and LPL, but the game itself wasn't very enjoyable when I was watching, I just like seeing LCK is finally seem much weaker now. EU/NA? I only looked at their champ selects and like, ugh I am not gonna watch today.
: Probably from the April Champion Roadmap post that teased a new support with a darker thematic who not only saves allies from drowning but also forces enemies to drown.... https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/04/champion-roadmap-april-2018/
> [{quoted}](name=ManBearPyg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XhJrFdnJ,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-05-30T18:18:46.867+0000) > > Probably from the April Champion Roadmap post that teased a new support with a darker thematic who not only saves allies from drowning but also forces enemies to drown.... > https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/04/champion-roadmap-april-2018/ I don't see anything such "saving allies from drowning"
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: NA LCS Stats Breakdown: Quarterfinals
oh god, when ADC has the most deaths u know they f*ck up
: NA LCS Stats Breakdown Week 8
CLG telling Team POE(Optic): hey man, not only u need to lose to us, but also please take down TL so we can get in...Assume that C9 beat TL I assume TSM already made it, against GGS is like a freebie. but when ppl expecting this, then GGS turns into FW in world 2017 likely. and the CLG vs TSM will be so much meaningful.
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: I don't see the point in defending dl. making a difference or not, he had no reason to keep both sums when seeing a shockwave coming--biofrost flashed just fine. but na has never been to a week 4 before, so will see how that goes c9. every non lck region has a weakness in toplane, and c9 is arguably much better at it with impact, but sneaky vs mystic will also be interesting to look at. i mean, khan can beat soaz with doge, counter or not. cuvee can dodge everything with twisted advance. huni can ramp up 50+ cs advantage @20. what soaz, alphari, 957, and letme has to offer is still a question. all said, i think c9 should be playing with an underdog mentality. even if they win we, they facecheck lz or ssg, so the sooner they abandon their disrespect the better. i don't appreciate sneaky's attitude after their lose to edg. he said 'there's a galio and a j4 on my face and a caitlyn free shooting, what can i do?' this is not a proactive attitude. they know what siege comp can do, and they should address that later against we if they want to win.
I dont believe Sneaky can even match against mystic well in lane, but certainly if there is upset in quarters its very likely C9, but I think WE 3-2 or 3-1 win.
: You NA people are SO unfair against LPL team. Did you even watch LCK summer split? LZ and SSG were equally good! SSG IS NOT A WEAK TEAM!!! It won't be a MAJOR upset for SSG to beat KT and LZ, so if RNG is capable of beating SSG, it WON'T be a MAJOR upset for RNG to beat LZ. However, I grant you the fact that SSG has a weak bot lane which is sad because of the current meta.
I think the way LZ and RNG can beat SSG not because LZ and RNG are "super good"(they are good actually), but its because SSG play so horribleto me, Crown and Ambition do not step up, Ruler is horrible at positioning, CoreJJ is decent but there is only so much a support can do specially it is ardent meta. The only one been playing well so far is Cuvee, but also, this is Maokai Chogath patch that he can only do limited of works...Ruler and Crown gotta do something, specially Ruler, this is supposed to be AD is carrying, but he been been dying.
Gwynder (OCE)
: I think, just like G2 at MSI, Misfits have a good chance of taking a least one game. Skt's early game has been atrocious, and the EU boys can take advantage of that.
Is this the first time POE vs Faker? It is interesting to see those two up against each other for me, but anyway, Misfits is already accomplished so much that I think everyone in the world is satisfied, they made to world, out of groups, in quarters, this is super impressive. I think the next goal just to get one win from SKT, even if this is not accomplish it is all fine.
: What an interesting (and disappointing for many fans) Week 2! Predictions: **LZ 3** - 0 SSG **RNG 3** - 0 FNC **SKT 3** - 0 MSF **WE 3** - 2 C9 While I think there will be a lot of 3-0ing this Quarterfinals, I don't necessarily think they'll be blowouts per se. Like with LZ over SSG, while both are really good teams, I think that their strengths and weaknesses are largely the same, just LZ is generally a bit better, so I don't see how SSG can overcome that. FNC and MSF could chip off games from RNG and SKT but it all depends on which team shows up, because neither are very consistent teams (quite obviously so with FNC). I think WE vs. C9 will be the one to watch. I think C9 could pull the upset if they are consistently able to snowball an early game lead to an early victory. The quicker C9 can finish out their games, the better shot they have vs. WE; the longer they draw the games out, the more the scales tip in favor of WE IMO. What do you guys think?
I have exactly the same prediction with u except I think SSG can get 1 win...and looking at the LPL is pretty impressive, I still remember Mark and the ESPN ppl are so proud to analyze that LPL is way too overrated and NA(or TSM) has good chances, LMFAO, they gotta know whos the real overrated one there.
Shirkhan (NA)
: I've never really cared for the round-robin. Some of these teams are just better at a best of 3/5 setting (TSM,EDG) who are better teams than the teams that got in. Misfits and C9 stand little chance vs their opponents in a best of setting. I love, LOVE, that TSM got stomped out, but they're a better overall team than Misfits, same goes for C9 and EDG, though I like C9. I just think a play in is a perfect round-robin situation, but a legitimate 16 man best of 3, best of 5 semifinals and finals, is a better tournament. Use this year's worlds to establish placements (Korea, China, EU, NA, GPL, LMS, TCL) and make a ranking order, Korea's #1, China's #1, EU's #1... and put the #1 overall team with the #16, so on. You can still even have the four divisions if that works out better.A best of 3/5 from the start just sets the tone for the whole tournament. A best of one is just so meaningless in a highly competitive tournament. That's why no regional finals use them. You want the best teams weeding out the weak while giving equal opportunities for the upset. Regardless the best team at worlds will always win, I just feel that it's not as competitive as it should be. I also prefer finality, not hinged hopes of a solid week two. The constant stop of momentum in the best of ones is a killer for competition. Just look at Gigabyte Marines vs Lonzhu. They had an epic game and lost all their steam for the rest of the matches. I imagine if they had a day in between the loss they would've beat either Fnatic or Immortals or both, even in a best of 3. I could go on, but I think I've made my case.
BO1 is more entertainment, and BO3/5 probably gonna shut down all the wildcards. And one more thing, even #8 LCK > #1 from NA or EU, so there is no points of doing that.
: How far can NA go? Pass quarters then lose at semi-finals vs Long Zhu?
Nah. maybe 1 or 2 wins against WE but not beating them in BO5
: I disagree with why they think NA is strong, and more importantly what they said about TSM. TSM has the easiest group and they still are struggling, while C9 and IMT have the two hardest groups and are thriving. EDG and AHQ are not weak teams yet C9 was able to make them look like wild card teams. Likewise Fnatic is amazing yet IMT made a quick comeback after punishing a mistake by one person (much like a Korean team would do). As goes Korea, they could have two 1-2 teams and in my opinion they will have that next year if the current trends continue to happen. Korea is no longer a guarantee anymore, and if C9 and/or IMT cleaned up their play we could very well see an NA win over the "most dominant" region. This could just be NA bias, but NA is no longer a region that can just be ignored or counted out of finals. There is a very real possibility that an NA team makes it to finals, or even wins, this year. Feel free to disagree or agree, I'm interested in hearing responses.
not even close. When it is time to step up in clutch times, LPL does, EU does, LMS does(a bit too late), NA does not, LCK does not need to.
: TSM 6-0 one of the biggest joke i've ever heard
There is no Korean team, it is possible, but still WE is just little bit weaker compare to Korean teams, I don't think 6-0 is likely but it is possible.
: I. I don't think SSG will even make it out of Groups this year. II. IDK III. The problem about GAM is that at Worlds, teams play slower instead of faster. Every Worlds are getting longer and longer in game time, no shorter. Especially when GAM faces off against FNC who are constantly in these 40+ min games at Worlds, 2014,2015 FNC are 7 games out of 12 with 40+mins. IV. No team will go 6-0 V. IDK VI. Doubtful, 4th time is a charm for EDG tho so? Maybe VII. Let's not forget that Bang tends to get crazy high KDA stats and Rekkles tends to have crazy numbers also, even in losing games(KDA player), even so Perkz ( 22-17-34-2194) will be my prediction for Perkz during groups in a 4-3 2nd place G2. VIII. I do see C9 going 1-1 against SKT in the group stage but hopefully C9 doesn't forget about SKT's other players like G2 did at MSI. IX. SKT eliminated in the Semi-Finals X. IDK
SSG will sure 1st in group, even they look weaker than last year, but so as G2 and RNG, RNG lost their 2 key korean imports and G2 still sucks at BO1, remember G2 did get 2nd in MSI but their group performance is still bad with 4-6. I think there are 2 teams can go 6-0: SKT and LZ, both of them are in easier groups, specially LZ. Like I said...I still think G2 will be 3rd or 4th, but will not be too surprise if they get 2nd. If C9 can beat SKT, the fed one I would put "IMPACT THE TOP DIE" against huni again, impact bullied huni at the end of last year and sent huni back to korea, the top lane meta now is similar to last year during gauntlet. But overall its not likely. I think SKT will make to finals, but not winning the final, with huni poor performance and not peanut's meta.
EpicSoap (NA)
: I'd prefer CLG to IMT still... again I know more CLG fans than IMT
If they have dardoch/xmite instead of Omar, I prefer CLG over IMT...
Narwhals (NA)
: "never mis-posistion" goes and rewatches dig vs c9 playoffs and watches sneaky misposition XD <3 sneaky tho but you're right he really is more of a consistent presence.
well...I am just saying that he does not make mistakes very often, no one is perfect, even faker will flash into walls sometimes
: Cloud 9 are actually fucked. Even if they make it to groups, they are getting put into Group A or Group C. Both of which are the hardest groups.
I still believe that there is very little hopes for C9 if they are in Group A, but C...nah. But I just hope C9 can at least finish play in strong and give some real challenges to LPL teams
: WE is most likely making to groups. If they do then Group D is where they will end up. Look at the teams already in Group D. A LMS, NA, and EU team. FNC, is EU, C9 is NA, and HKA is LMS. The Chinese WE is the only team that can fit into Group D.
The only ways are WE got knocked out in play in(not likely to happen), or any teams upsets HKA, and if TSM is even luckier, WE drawn to B and whoever upsets HKA, the wildcard team drawn to D..AND if TSM successfully get 1st seed in group(kinda likely), and all the other LCK teams dominate their group and get 1st seed, TSM will play non LCK teams.. Semis actually LEGIT, but do require a lot of luck and themselves not to chock.
: Oh no doubt, it just feels like a better group for them. Either way they'll have a tough road and that's if they even get through play-ins. Not going to lie though, I just want to see some more Jensen v Faker after how well Jensen has played this year.
Faker v. Jensen is hype, I mean I know C9 probably will still lose the game, but I do think Jensen have a chance to clap with faker a bit, faker had a bit struggling year and Jensen is on a monster level year.
: Even then, good chance FNC get put in that group. I have hopes for IMT to do good at worlds, just thought they got put in a tough group.
TBH. I think IMT is in a less pressure and good group, they will get smashed by LZ for sure, every non korean team will... and if there isnt any upsets happening in play ins, WE will for sure go to group D, and the possible last spot will be FNC or HKA, FNC might be a harder team for IMT, but I do think they are still having the favor, and HKA should be much easier...
: If all the major region teams make it through then Group D is the ONLY group WE can go into. Group D already has a LMS, NA, and EU teams so CN is the only option.
You're right, if that happens, TSM and FW will probably have harder time on this group, but I do favor TSM over FW a little.
XHoxhaG (NA)
: Jatt said after the group draws that the TSM from 2016 looked stronger than this year. I completely disagree with that statement, I think TSM have prepared themselves diligently by sacrificing games to practice team comps that they knew they were scrapy with at best. With that being said, on paper TSM doesn't look as good as they did last year but in reality, they worked on diversity in terms of team comp and play style without relying on individual skill from their roster. IMO, TSM is gonna make to semi's. Note I could be terribly wrong in my predictions but its this gut feeling that I have.
TBH I agree with you, the stats showed that TSM might be worse, but the meta should fit them well, bio and hauntzer have some experience on big stages, hauntzer and sven on tank champs are much safer. If bjer and double play like they should, they are actually in good shape, the only concern I have is sven will get crush by Karsa or Condi(if WE gets in as pool 3 team in D).
Toukan (NA)
: when do the play-in games start?
it starts 23rd in China, so it should be 22nd late night or midnight in PDT. The actual schedule isnt up yet.
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