: > [{quoted}](name=Jesus Steve,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cWXjaEFq,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T15:22:26.344+0000) > > I see and understand that, but does it realistically warrant a permanent ban in this case? or should it have taken at least two-three more cases like this? Once you get off your 14-day suspension, your account is only **extremely **thin ice, meaning that even the smallest misconduct can warrant a permanent suspension.
> [{quoted}](name=KDA Umbra,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cWXjaEFq,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T15:26:08.690+0000) > > Once you get off your 14-day suspension, your account is only **extremely **thin ice, meaning that even the smallest misconduct can warrant a permanent suspension. I see, thank you for explaining that to me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jesus Steve,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cWXjaEFq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T15:16:39.299+0000) > > I see, I did figure that it was just some frustration to be honest, I only asked for ult every time it was applicable within game. At what point does it turn from frustration to harassment in your opinion within the chat log. Not trying to be a jerk just want to honestly know. You were consistently targeting Shen and other members, pointing out their mistakes, bad CS and such. This is unnecessary, beacuse that won't make them play better. If anything, it will just frustrate your teammates even more. That's why it falls under the negative attitude category.
> [{quoted}](name=KDA Umbra,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cWXjaEFq,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T15:21:30.509+0000) > > You were consistently targeting Shen and other members, pointing out their mistakes, CS and such. This is unnecessary, beacuse that won't make them play better. If anything, it will just frustrate your teammates even more. That's why it falls under the negative attitude category. I see and understand that, but does it realistically warrant a permanent ban in this case? or should it have taken at least two-three more cases like this?
Jo0o (NA)
: On January fifth, you appear to have received a two-week ban, which would have explicitly stated that it was your final warning before a perma ban. That ban ended on January 19th. Today, January 20th, you spent a full chat log insulting your teammate's performance. Some frustration would have probably been passable, but you insulted him enough times to reasonably call it harassment, and even if you don't agree with that interpretation, it's incredible to me that you'd engage in this behavior so soon after your final warning was given. So yes, justified ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cWXjaEFq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-20T15:08:40.375+0000) > > On January fifth, you appear to have received a two-week ban, which would have explicitly stated that it was your final warning before a perma ban. That ban ended on January 19th. Today, January 20th, you spent a full chat log insulting your teammate's performance. Some frustration would have probably been passable, but you insulted him enough times to reasonably call it harassment, and even if you don't agree with that interpretation, it's incredible to me that you'd engage in this behavior so soon after your final warning was given. > > So yes, justified ban. I see, I did figure that it was just some frustration to be honest, I only asked for ult every time it was applicable within game. At what point does it turn from frustration to harassment in your opinion within the chat log. Not trying to be a jerk just want to honestly know.
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