Riot Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 9
Can you talk briefly about what changes are planned for Zyra? Thanks!
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 1
Any news on what’s being planned for Zyras plants instead of making them untargetable?
: They didn't. In testing the implementation we had made it so you couldn't block skillshots with plants anymore - then the designer working on it was out for a bit sick. It's unfortunate since on paper the change seems pretty easy, but hasn't proven as simple when looking at implementation. Personal opinion is that champs should be able to target them for moveblocks, that's part of the counterplay - you place a plant, I can use it to get to you, but feel less strongly about them being able to oneshot them at the same time
Can't you make them invulnerable for a short time? That way enemies can still dash to them, but they won't instantly die.
Meddler (NA)
: We wanted to increase her ability to lock targets down, whether that's for her own damage (plants especially) or to catch enemies for her team to followup. Duration's buffed at max level, not just earlier levels, so that some power's added over the course of the game, not just early.
Please consider increasing the missile speed (perhaps instead of the current buff). It's a very unreliable spell, and she is still too reliant on her team in order to be useful. I don't want to have buffs that will make her overbearing in support compared to mid. She really needs better AP scalings for her to be a decent scaling mage in the mid lane.
Novalas (NA)
: PBE Chat with the Playtest Team - 8.11
What kinds of changes are planned for Zyra? Meddler said they could be in patch 8.11.
: what makes people think pyke is a support champion....
i agree he doesnt seem like a supp but riot said thats his intended role
Shaian (EUW)
: @RiotRepertoir: A modernization of Zyra as a Mage and Champion in 2018 with her current abilities
I agree with many of these points. Her plants definitely need to be tankier. I also would like it if Riot could make her combos feel smoother to play. It might be helpful for them to look at her cast times/animations because she has to stand still a great amount at mid range while also being extremely immobile and having no defensive capabilities.
Dezyre (EUW)
: Plants actually do pop banshee
No they don’t, it must be something else. It does pop banshee with Ludens. I’m not sure what else works, perhaps scorch.
: You're right that these changes aren't likely to fix Lux. I don't disagree. They're pretty much a stopgap until we solve underlying issues with how the best way to influence mid lane is to wave clear well. If we wanted to pull the trigger on just making her E waveclear like the meta drivers, we could, and I have been considering it. The reason we haven't is that her E is still pretty fundamentally unfair if it's also cheap or does more damage, and that adding a bunch of minion damage to it is a slippery slope that could lead to the same treatment being applied to a bunch of champions, and I'm trying to avoid that kind of approach to this. I do think there could be some merit to changing her Q speed or something, but I think that too is subject to being a buff in the "wrong place." I understand that is probably a more unfortunate or unsatisfying response than you'd like, but I think it's pretty accurate for now.
What do you think of a new W that roughly works something like a bouncing effect where if it hits an enemy it bounces to other enemies and deals damage, but on an ally bounces to nearby allies and shields? It fits with her light theme well. Damage on other abilities would have to be adjusted, but I think it could give her a slightly more reliable waveclear, while still having to use multiple spells on the wave to do it. I think it has the potential to create more interesting combos and play styles for Lux. (Also please try to help Zyra (mid especially), I know you replied in a thread about her a few weeks ago but I hope you looked at the suggestions that followed.) thanks for your hard work!
: Hello. I feel bad for asking this, but can I get a tl;dr of what you think the main issues are and what your suggestions are so I can think about the core stuff? I respect and value that you spent the time writing this up, but I've got a day packed with meetings and what-not and can't give it the time it deserves atm.
As a Master Zyra mid OTP, I just really don't like how much she relies on her team to do anything. Other mages feel like they are able to do so much more on their own with added safety and little effort. None of her other spells can really function that well if the enemies aren't already CC'd. It's too dangerous and hard to land poke with Q on enemies mid-late game without them being already CC'd, and plants simply die too easily when they're not ulted. It's hard for her to CC enemies on her own since E is too easy to dodge without it following up on someone else. Come mid to late game she's really only an ult bot, and not getting a good ult means you basically won't have any reliable DPS with plants dying instantly. I really wish you could help Zyra, especially for mid (comparing her to other mages). I think her support is in a reasonable spot at the moment. What I most want is a buff to her E missile speed, and definitely some way (through changing her w/passive/ult) to fulfill her fantasy as a plant mage. It may help to also increase her AP scalings, as her access to flat magic penetration has been reduced over time, which would make her Q and E more impactful for DPS. Her plants simply aren't as strong as they need to be come mid and _especially_ late game. Also, please stop letting MF autos/Corki autos 1 shot plants. Thanks for listening to us!
: > Cant i get a statement on what you think? I'm not even looking necessarily for "Riot thinks this"-statement. What do you guys personally think when you watch this? My thoughts: * It's fair that melees 1-shot plants in the early game. * It's pretty crappy that Zyra's E+W often results in enemies "accidentally" 1-shotting her plants because of how being rooted causes you to auto acquire nearby targets to basic attack (in this case, her plants). * It's possible her plants should again be tankier as the game goes on, so they grow out of being 1-shot by melees or something. * Empowered attacks like Rengar's Q 1-shotting ulted plants shouldn't happen, and we should fix that.
Thanks for replying to this post! We Zyra mains really appreciate it. I'm not sure if it's what you guys wanted or not but it also feels pretty dumb how ranged attacks with multiple damage sources can 1 shot plants (Corki autos, for example).
: AP Itemization on PBE (8.4)
Like many others have said, Rabadon's is still too difficult to build. I usually find myself building it 5th or 6th, but at that point it's really difficult to build with only one or two item slots open. Not sure how I feel about the rest of the item changes, I'll have to play with them. But there are desirable effects on too many items, meaning big sacrifices have to be made to build a certain item, especially if you are in a lane where you are forced to build Zhonya's before any other items. I understand that you want to create meaningful choices, but it doesn't seem like other roles have to sacrifice as much when making item decisions.
RowGo (NA)
: > "It is a team game in the sense you have a team, but not in the sense that the vast majority of players are playing with their friends in ranked" One I'd like to know where you got the idea that 'vast majority' of ranked players are playing in groups cause that's just not true. "Delving into the numbers, Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Plat solos, duos, and trios battle a five-player premade in about 1 game out of 1000 (slightly more often in Plat)." - Riot Two you can't say its a team game when everyone is going solo but not when they que up as a party, that just makes no sense. When you que up with people the team work, the communication, the coordination all the skills associated with team games goes up as in it gets more team focused as in becomes more of a team game. > "Very few people like the dynamic que change." Everyone I talk to likes the new que. like seriously where are you getting this? > "Ranked is a shadow of its old self." In what way? In the way that toxicity is down? In the way that i can preform at my best cause i got my role each game? In the way that if i use my ability to coordinate, communicate, and work with my team mates i'm now able to show that in my rank? I get it man your salty, it feels like riot is undermining your solo experience cause people can now que with friends, but making broad statements with no real feedback other then I don't like it is not gonna help anyone. Why don't you like it? What parts do you think need to be improved? Why did the old system work better for you? Your upset, so talk about why your upset not how it's the end of LOL as we know it cause that won't help anyone, and lets be real LOL isn't going anywhere.
He said that the vast majority of players are NOT in groups..
: Learn to play something else? Before Dynamic Que we also didn't have role selection in ranked people had to fill all the time. Stop being a baby and learn to play another role.
> [{quoted}](name=SpecterVonBaren,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:49:44.621+0000) > > Learn to play something else? Before Dynamic Que we also didn't have role selection in ranked people had to fill all the time. Stop being a baby and learn to play another role. It's simply not possible to be able to play all five roles at a level that is fair to my teammates in high elo.
NotSid (NA)
: Also, Lyte is gone, so I don't think Riot gives a fuck about toxicity anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:28:51.356+0000) > > Also, Lyte is gone, so I don't think Riot gives a fuck about toxicity anymore. I really hope that's not true :(
: might as well just bring the old system back or add a 3rd option to queue as. also when do u bring dft on zyra and when do u bring tlds
> [{quoted}](name=IAMS4T4N,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:26:53.741+0000) > > might as well just bring the old system back. > > also when do u bring dft on zyra and when do u bring tlds Assuming you mean mid Zyra, I prefer going burst so I take Thunderlords Decree but Deathfire Touch provides better zoning and overall late game damage. It's just based off your playstyle.
NotSid (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kaiceytron,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:24:22.843+0000) > > Yeah. Or at least they can say when you're in autofill mode so you can leave the queue if you want. I thought they did make it at least tell you?
> [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:26:12.173+0000) > > I thought they did make it at least tell you? Nope. It was a complete surprise to me and everyone in my champ select.
NotSid (NA)
: If anything, they should have made it an opt-in thing. Something like.. "hey your queue is looking like it's gonna take a long time. Enable fill mode? Yes? No?" And leave it up to the player to decide to bite the bullet and just go fill to get a match, or stick it out and deal with the long queue, hoping other players will give in.
> [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=VOxuprA5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-01T22:23:16.340+0000) > > If anything, they should have made it an opt-in thing. Something like.. "hey your queue is looking like it's gonna take a long time. Enable fill mode? Yes? No?" And leave it up to the player to decide to bite the bullet and just go fill to get a match, or stick it out and deal with the long queue, hoping other players will give in. Yeah. Or at least they can say when you're in autofill mode so you can leave the queue if you want.
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: First time since Season 3 I'm averaging less than 1 game per day.
What a pointless thread. You're going to complain about something no one cares about and not give any reasons why? Seriously?
Ladrac (EUNE)
: Is just me...or the games in season 6 are unfun?
: How DARE Taliyah have a face like that
i hate how the eyebrows are 1 inch tall thats just not realistic at all but the rest is good :)
PixTron (NA)
: Unless you're {{champion:37}} and manage to get {{item:3085}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3285}}. Then you can clear waves like a bitch. <3
Does Hurricane apply Sona's Passive and Lich Bane to all targets hit?
: > [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PKxg65oM,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2016-04-29T19:54:45.146+0000) > > Riot can&#x27;t trace the exchange of cash. Depends, they actually have some tools that would help them identify offenses of this nature. Those tools have been in place for years and are why we continuously see ban waves on a regular basis for players who purchase accounts or other types of services not allowed by the ToS. Can they directly follow the flow of that money from one hand to another? No, but the tools that have at their disposal have still proven to be quite capable of discerning offending players who purchase various services in a fashion that violates the ToS. Riot doesn't ever get a whole lot of credit from me, they fail and fall flat on their faces in regards to most issues, but they certainly deserve some credit for the systems currently in place that deter some of these types of activites. Are they doing the best job possible in regards to this type of thing? Nah, not even close. But they are doing the best job they CAN do, which should mean something at least.
Those are for when accounts have obviously had a change of possession. They don't know whether it was given for free or bought.
A Ocean (EUW)
: Since Dynamic Queue exists, I actually can't play with my friends anymore.
Same here. I'm diamond, while most of my friends are silver-gold. They play primarily ranked and while we would play ranked teams often when it was available, now that it's gone I can't play League of Legends with them without the use of a smurf.
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: URF CHALLENGE: Rioters VS Players. Friday 22/4 @6PM PST.
It would be cool if you guys could stream it, on the leaguecommunity stream perhaps.
: Ask a Zyra Main - Completed
Well now that it's out what do you think of Zyras new passive and Q?
: on toplane how do you handle illaoi ? played it like 10 times as an illaoi main and didnt saw any prob
How can you have done Illaoi vs Zyra top that many times if at all lol
: Ask a Zyra Main - Completed
OMG Melyn didn't know u were doing this how did you get this opportunity? And guys support his stream he is entertaining and great at Zyra :). He will be streaming reworked PBE Zyra soon.
: Yo Yousosmart! Star Guardian is absolutely a line that we want to explore further, skins team itself is comprised of a ton of Magical Girl super fans! We definitely want to make more SG skins in the future (TBD), so keep your eyes peeled for cuteness! :3 As far as our data goes players lovvvvveddddd her, like off the charts positive player response. lol **Question for the thread: **What other champions, aside from Lux, would make great Star Guardians?
AURELION. SOL. PLEASE. Although, if it's reserved for females I would like to see SG Karma! Or some sort of villain Karma. Really, Karma just needs a new skin...
Raelaem (NA)
: I would be willing to pay ludicrous amounts of money for this Icon
Hey Raelaem! I agree, I think the new Evelynn splash is amazing. I was wondering though, if I could join the Evelynn Mains club. I added you on my main and my smurf Chronior. Thanks!
TallyZrg (NA)
: Blade Queen is recolored lissandra with slight (hardly noticeable) particle changes and a sub-par backing animation.
Umm more like Bloodstone is recolored Lissandra. Blade Queen has great SFX and metal particles.
: It takes 10x more skill to play AGAINST Fiora than it takes to play AS Fiora
What? I don't disagree but this thread is completely biased.
: guess I got those 35K mastery from nowhere. And that is only AFTER the mastery system went on, I used to play her a lot more but these days I don't really feel like playing support unless I'm with a friend or I want to play a specific champion that looks fun to play support for me atm, so i play less of Zyra. I never said I was a Zyra main 1 trick pony always playin Zyra 39810938109k mastery with Zyra playin since her release. I don't play her as much as {{champion:99}} {{champion:61}} but i did play her a fair amount of time. You must have a lot of time to lose to go through posts and look for the match history of everyone to see if they really play Zyra XD
No, it only took about a minute, but thanks for your concern. If you don't feel like playing her support, why not play her mid? And I never said you had to be an OTP, but I think feedback from players that don't play Zyra as much means less than those that do.
: What you looked at my ranked stats and 10 last games on lol king? That is so relevant of what i play considering I almost played only normals for a year and then played like 1 ranked every 4 games.
You've played her 3 times in the last month.
LankPants (OCE)
: I barely play Zyra too, do you want to know why that is? I'm not a support player. I hate bot lane as a whole. But do you know what? Zyra is one of my favourite champions. I don't play her as much as I'd like to because I know that in picking her mid I basically contribute nothing to my team. I have played Zyra since her release though and I think that my opinion is relevant even if I don't always play her.
I'm not a support player either. I hate bot lane too. But I'm sorry you haven't made an effort to get any good at her so you can go mid. Telling Riot that Zyra mid currently contributes nothing to her team is just false information.
: The ONLYexpectation I had with this rework was that they would take Zyra back to mid since all the mages they chose for the rework are mostly seen in solo lanes and as AP carries, and then they come up with this ''bot lane mage'' thing and I couldn't be more frustrated and dissapointed. Litteraly almost no one wants her support, the only reason she is there is because the nerf she received forced her there and they want to push her deeper in there. I really hope they change their mind, if they don't I'll just say bye bye to Zyra forever (and I REALLY don't want that but I'm tired of having to go bot lane to play one of my favorite champion just because mid is too dangerous for her).
Oh please. You barely play her.
: No.... it was gimmicky and absolutely stupid to play against should he survive long enough for items. It's a good thing for the overall health of the game that it's gone.
the overall health of the game? how often were you seeing ap gp?
: lol nautilus gets damage nerfs before fiora
Bârd (NA)
: Tried it. NEVER building sunfire on Eve again, but otherwise it was good.
Lol just curious, does being near minions with sunfire reveal you?
Bârd (NA)
: Any champion, eh? Fine, trying it on toplane {{champion:28}}.
Sure, Top lane Eve deals a surprising amount of DPS with fervor of battle as she can stack it very quickly with q and e
: Alright I hit diamond again.
What's the point of this thread?
: To the Try Hards in blind pick
I play my main because they're fun. I'm not going to trash talk, but I'll play who I want.
: It used to be possible 1 year ago, it's probably still possible. I dunno whether you have to go the AP build and shield most of the damage or the AD/lifesteal build. If I had to guess I'd say that both is possible.
you can't solo baron with ap champions (besides fid) so ad
: > [{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lGvgEbAE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-16T05:03:28.345+0000) > > That is not a reason to refuse to leash. > > That is not a reason to steal their first camp. > > That is not a reason to spam the &quot;?&quot; ping on them when they are just trying to farm. > > Doing these things does nothing but fuck up your teams early game and piss off your jungler. > > Assisting the enemy is reportable, Zyra jungle is not. If you go zyra jungle in 6.3 you are 100% trolling the game, intentionally or not. If you don't pick a meta champ currently you put your team at such a disadvantage you will probably lose the game just based off of that. Season 4 and prior this was probably true, but a lot more champs were viable back then. If this was ranked I'd say you deserve a report, normals is a different story
There is a mid diamond last season peaked at masters zyra jungle main named melyn...
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: I don't know how Zyra can be a good pick now a days with the likes of Zed {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
not too hard if you take exhaust and get zhon if you need it
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