Comentários de Rioters
KueˆT (NA)
: I need more support players on my friends list!
I'll add you. been trying to brush off my support gameplay a little bit since I'm done with ranked for the season.
: "Time to carry"
It's a mission. not a tutorial/life lesson.
: Praying Meta
I climbed pretty easy to plat playing almost exclusively toplane. I ended up hard carrying a lot of lost games too.
Reksee (NA)
: Friendly Reminder that Yuumi is still an abomination
Yuumi isn't healing anywhere near soraka's amount. Her poke is also pretty mediocre. How insecure do you have to be to make ranting posts about the worst champion in the game with like a 42% winrate? A support no less.
: new garen might be a tab bit strong
he is, but it's got little to do with you winning two games.
Strouky (NA)
: Qiyana
I see your point. Most of her voicelines are about how she's using magic.
: "He isnt overtuned"
Lol. Masters+ is such a massive skill difference compared to anyone below diamond that it's useless information to the other 97.5% of the player base
: Why Are Karma Players Upset about the Phoenix Video?
I'll set myself up for being proven long since this was a giant melodramatic post that I only skimmed over because I couldn't be bothered to read through it all but Maybe karma fans just want a champ with higher than 46-47% winrate?
: Riot please comment Teemo Problems
At worst he has a 51% winrate in diamond and it only improves the lower elo you get. In fact hes in the top 5 best performing toplaners in lower elo. Im starting to play him more and he also feels fun. The character isn't bad, it's just you
Wombytes (EUW)
: Tanks seem to just be blatantly unabalanced
If it's 2 tanks toplane their damage numbers are usually bloated since they have more sustain and less damage than other lanes. This leads to them slapping each other consistently the entire laning phase without either one having to back instantly like a mid or advice might have to. Also I'm laughing at all the people in this thread calling champs like garen and Mundo and Zac "not a tank"
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: All of these champions he stated have worse stast than morde, and not just on this patch.
And I don't main any of them. What's your point?
Kiryu (NA)
: Question about marksmen in bot lane
4 out of your last 5 games all had traditional ADCs. The offmeta picks probably just stand out more.
: Explain to me, why are you playing teemo when Quinn and Heimerdinger exist?
Maybe because his shrooms provide a playstyle that is 100% unique in the game.
: Any tips for Diamond?
Using public forums probably won't do you any good for the most part.Advice from people worse than you are will most likely do more harm than good. Have you tried making an account on mobalytics?
: thats not the case i play like 4 champs seriously toplane, still nothing doesnt matter how hard i smash when i got a duo botlane, duo names too just hard inting am i missing something? do i need to play kennen or something to actually be able to 1v5?
Sometimes you just get unwinnable games. I got from silver 4 to plat 4 in a couple months by one-tricking mordekaiser. Strong 1v1, tanky enough with enough damage to 1v5. Decent early, great late.
: hardstuck in gold
Don't know what that screenshot is supposed to be of but I can offer some advice. Try to lower your champ pool and stick to champs you have good winrates on. Maybe try and pick up a champ that fits your playstyle better
NoPaxt (NA)
: Can a simple item balanceranged champs vs mele to start the game?
This is a terrible idea for reasons that have already been brought up by other people
Hi im 12 (EUNE)
: ask any high elo player how they feel about lucian top / mid :)
Good job avoiding every point I've made while you try to move the goalpost just to make some sort of impertinent, unimportant argument for no reason - again. I should have known any point of discussion you raise isn't worth my time
mark6028 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2MbqdMOV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-08T03:52:55.994+0000) > > The website you linked me is saying that out of the top 10 champs, 3 of them are ranged. > > None of the S+ tier champs are ranged. > > None of the top 10 highest pickrate champs are ranged. > > > For someone with such a good ranking in this game I might have expected better of you. You're reaching pretty desperately if you wanted to try to say "ranged champs are dominating toplane because Lucian who is picked in 1% of games has the highest winrate" i know it's a very hard concept to grasp for people like you but melees are just more fun for toplane player. Like you know league after all is a videogame. If you wanna have fun pick melee, if you want elo pick ranged. Like it get so tiring repeating the same shit year after year. First it was tanks everyone pretended not to be broken as fuck because "muh but their winrate and pickrate" yeah guess what no one enjoys playing a boring shitclass that can't win the game.
lmfao I was defending melees in the first place. At least take a second to comprehend what you're reading before going on your tangent.
: no there really isn't, he laid it out for you as simple as possible > your job in teamfights is often to just 1 shot the most important person you can in the enemy team and then either get out or die dishing out as many aoes as you can in the next 3 secs more or less it works on champs who mainly use a lot of autos in their skirmishes like nocturne, riven, jax, etc. Renek (i don't play him) if i remember his W is 2 quick autos? which if he were to ult, then blow everything and end combo with W is all he is getting for autos, then q, then dash out, and hopefully not die in the process. yes spear would improve the fight, but he would opt for more survivability than dmg/cd reduction so he can stay in the fight, or at least dip out of it. not really flawed logic, you just didn't put much thought into it tbh. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Let's list off the different key points of 'flawed logic' > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nnRdjJEt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:08:05.627+0000) > > Because your job in teamfights is often to just 1 shot the most important person you can Renekton's kit and his standard build isn't meant for "oneshotting" anyone. Black cleaver? Sterak's? He's a skirmisher and trying to play him as an assassin isn't going to work unless you're already completely fed out of control. > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nnRdjJEt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:08:05.627+0000) > > die dishing out as many aoes as you can in the next 3 secs which isn't enough time for Spear of Shojin to do anything. Spirit of Shojin decreases the amount of time it takes for your skills to come off of cooldown. If you don't have enough time for spirit of shojin to do anything, you definitely don't have enough time to get black cleaver stacks like he implied. > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nnRdjJEt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:08:05.627+0000) >I would rather have Black Cleaver or Guardian Angel in at least 50% of the scenarios. This one's wrong because Renekton gets black cleaver/guardian angel IN ADDITION to shojin anyways. If you don't play renekton you don't have to jump into a debate you know nothing about just to blindly defend someone.
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=swRqEuAA,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T23:23:32.731+0000) > > Kennen is ranked at 20/46 and Vayne isn't appropriately listed as a toplaner, but her winrate toplane is 49.6% which would put her between 32 and 33/46. > > and if you want to talk about POPULARITY Vladimir is the only ranged champ in the top 10. > > Also, Urgot and Teemo definitely don't need reworks but that's a discussion for another time what are you trying to say? ranged picks are counterpicks, they're picked to win the lane for free, stopping the class with the highest gold items in the game from getting those items, whilst buying cheaper items, whilst farming the melee for money with klepto in some cases, whilst scaling harder than half the melee top roster. it doesn't win the game for free, because top lane is complete jungle difference if there's a range vs melee matchup, and usually also boils down to winning bot lane wins game anyway. not that the melee can't win at all pick rates and winrates are fucking irrelevant. nobody cares about top lane anyway not riot, not reddit, and not the boards apparently. you try so hard to act like it's not a big deal, not even realizing that melee's dont get to actually play the game at all when it matters the most against ranged. they spend 15-20 minutes in absolute torture until they maybe get to have fun if they didn't feed earlier. oh i forgot we're not allowed to have fun and above all this is an issue for high elo players. in low elo it doesn't accomplish as much
> [{quoted}](name=Lazy Grandpa,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=swRqEuAA,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-08T16:43:51.272+0000) > > pick rates and winrates are fucking irrelevant. And just with that I knew to stop reading since everything you say is apparently based on how frustrated something makes you feel instead of things like actual stats or evidence, or anything that actually matters really.
Hi im 12 (EUNE)
: "its not picked a lot so its completely fine for it to be the most broken shit in the game" alright then buddy
Lucian is played in 1% of games in Masters+ elo. At that point the pool is so low it's likely only one or two individuals playing him in very specific situations. So yea, if a single person is able to get 53.69% on Lucian, it's not broken. Especially since second place is only 0.1% worse.
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2MbqdMOV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-08T03:01:49.866+0000) > > Statistically ranged champs don't actually outperform melee champs toplane when it comes to winrate. But I get you want to shitpost with uninformed opinions that don't have any factual basis in reality so don't let me stop you. This sort of shit could only come from someone who either mains {{champion:150}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}} top or has never even played melee vs ranged toplane
One-tricked Mordekaiser top lane. Been a couple weeks since I've played ranked at this point but I remember having a relatively easy time against most ranged champs compared to a few melee champs. But I'm not surprised to see you making baseless assumptions while you shout about things that you have no knowledge about but could easily look up. Must be standard for you by this point.
Tailypo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=swRqEuAA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:41:03.220+0000) > > In most elos the top 3 or 4 of the top 5 highest winrate toplaners are melee depending on what you count Kayle as. > > I'll list off some of the commonly picked ranged toplaners. > > {{champion:126}} 42/46 > {{champion:13}} 38/46 > {{champion:150}} 36/46 > {{champion:8}} 35/48 > > ~~~ > > {{champion:6}} 15/48 > {{champion:74}} 9/48 > {{champion:17}} 8/48 > {{champion:133}} 3/48 > > Whoa. Half of the ranged toplaners are in the worse half of the roster and half of them are in the better half. It's almost like they're actually balanced for the most part. LMAO that's not how balance works.
An even distribution of a certain type of champion with varying rates of success, with no single ranged champion being exceptionally good or exceptionally bad isn't balanced?
Saezio (EUNE)
: What the fuck list is that? What I see in U.GG for plat+ games is this [4/5 top picks are ranged](http://prntscr.com/pge9y6)
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/top/by-winrate Haven't cross-referenced this website to make sure it's accurate but I'm inclined to believe it when it says the data is based on 163k games in the last 2 days.
Keiaga (NA)
: ***
Top lane {{champion:23}} - King of splitpush. Fast wave clear, fast at taking down turrets, a spin and a couple autos is usually enough to kill a squishy. {{champion:114}} - Recently buffed to take down turrest faster. Can pop squishies and outduel most. {{champion:17}} - Lane bully, you can shroom every square inch of a section of the enemy jungle, and with a permanent passive movement speed boost, you're hard to catch. Once you get a lich bane you'll be able to burst down squishies before your blind wears off. jungle {{champion:77}} - By midgame you have nearly infinite movement speed boost with bear stance, tiger stance is perfect for objectives like towers and dragon, phoenix helps with big minion waves
: Oh wait, was this post about ranged top laners? No? Didn't think so. Clearly says Lucian. Thanks for the respect on my rank tho.
lmfao so it's not about ranged top laners in general. It's about a single champion that's picked in 1% of games. Alright then
: Are stimulants considered cheating?
you're overthinking things. You're not a professional so no one would care either way, and energy drinks aren't illegial to consume.
Zerenza (NA)
: I'm always reminded of how much i hate these champions.
Sylas is LITERALLY the absolute worse winrate champion in the entire game at 42%. Akali is 5th worst. How are you still complaining about them lmfao
: Yikes. Looks like someone is uninformed. https://u.gg/lol/tier-list?rank=master_plus&role=top It's not your fault, that's why I'm here. > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2MbqdMOV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-08T03:01:49.866+0000) > > But I get you want to shitpost with uninformed opinions that don't have any factual basis in reality so don't let me stop you. Hahahahaha
The website you linked me is saying that out of the top 10 champs, 3 of them are ranged. None of the S+ tier champs are ranged. None of the top 10 highest pickrate champs are ranged. For someone with such a good ranking in this game I might have expected better of you. You're reaching pretty desperately if you wanted to try to say "ranged champs are dominating toplane because Lucian who is picked in 1% of games has the highest winrate"
: Proof That Trolls Decide Games
Anything can happen in low elo. Every other game where there's a troll on the team t hat doesn't lose would also be "proof" that trolls don't decide the game. Just move on.
Quáx (NA)
: These new shaco changes look dangerously OP
it's better for sure but it's far off from being "op"
ZaionX (NA)
: Thanks and do you know if I'll have to play a game once I'm in gold for it to be certain I will get the skin or can I just stop playing ranked til the next season starts?
You don't have to play a game once you hit gold. That's for certain
: Zac and fizz were within the last several years 'that haven't had any reworks in the past several years like"
I guess a minor rework to a couple skills still counts as a rework. either way my main point still stands.
: The group of people that hate me and downvote every post I make and bring up things I've said 9 years ago, let that hate go. God is good and it's a blessing to be alive.
I don't know what you're talking about but that sounds like some next level paranoia. Anyways, why would riot ever disallow people from playing with their friends, just because one friend happens to be D2 and the others happen to be gold? Play ranked if you want to avoid getting as many matches like that
: Zac, fizz, and janna got reworks
> [{quoted}](name=TheSingularity,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WNXM8PoA,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-10-08T00:13:25.613+0000) > > Zac, fizz, and janna got reworks > [{quoted}](name=Xphineas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WNXM8PoA,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-10-08T00:05:16.127+0000) > > Im like 99% sure Janna got a full rework, but it was a long time ago I did specify "in the last several years"
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WNXM8PoA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T00:01:36.017+0000) > > Tryndamere and Lux have pretty solid winrates though. > > In fact most of the very strong champions currently are ones that haven't had any reworks in the past several years like > > {{champion:222}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:105}} . > > And some champs that got very recent reworks and very recently came out are some of the WORST in the entire game. > > {{champion:223}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:39}} . > > So what the hell are you talking about? lol Um that cat is crazy op... wtf you smoking? akali got destroyed in her rework which falls under the UNDO THE SHIT YOU HAVE DONE Catigory... and same with Irelia. The other two champs are bad because they are so broken that they can't balance them so they nerfed them into oblivion... not really fair examples.
Yuumi is so OP she has a 42% winrate making her the second worst champion in the entire game in plat elo. So that's definitely saying something about any opinion you might have if you think she's "crazy OP" https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/by-winrate And whether you think riot is keeping them "intentionally" bad or not doesn't really matter when I'm giving you multiple different champions that prove you wrong.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Could work if given a 300sec CD. Hecarim and Cassio would need major nerfs, namely with his E/her Q+passive
Another thing about combining ghost and cleanse is that they're two completely separate things. Usually when you take{{summoner:14}} You're always going to want the extra damage AND the grievous wounds. If you take {{summoner:3}} you're always going to want the decrease in movement speed and the decrease in damage. There's a lot of times where you want the movement speed of {{summoner:6}} OR the {{summoner:1}} but not both.
: Champs that haven't seen a rework shouldn't be allowed in ranked.
Tryndamere and Lux have pretty solid winrates though. In fact most of the very strong champions currently are ones that haven't had any reworks in the past several years like {{champion:222}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:105}} . And some champs that got very recent reworks and very recently came out are some of the WORST in the entire game. {{champion:223}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:39}} . So what the hell are you talking about? lol
Trogmar (NA)
: My champion roster suggestions?
Didn't you post this exact topic and get a few answers to it just a few days ago?
: You literally wrote: > {{champion:13}} is worthless Why are you telling me: "I never even implied Ryze needs a nerf" You're clearly implying Ryze needs a buff, not a nerf. Are you even capable of making a coherent argument?
listing off champs and their rankings doesn't imply they need a buff or a nerf. Whether you want me to > [{quoted}](name=ChrisBrownze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLtuAiaT,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T23:18:00.673+0000) > Explain to me how a nerf could make Ryze better in lower elo? or not. In fact, besides my mention of how some UNNAMED mages MIGHT be able to use some UNNAMED tweaks, I didn't actually imply or talk about a buff or a nerf to any champion until you started demanding to understand > [{quoted}](name=ChrisBrownze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLtuAiaT,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:48:27.627+0000) > > So you think Riot should buff a champ so that theyre playable in low elo, and broken af in high elo? So not only are you unable to keep a straight line of thought and follow a simple conversation, you also dragged me down into a completely off-topic subject by putting words into my mouth that I did not say. Good job using those big 3-syllable words like coherent and capable though. It definitely stands out against your normal vocabulary but points for effort.
: Let's keep pretending I'm the one "embarassing myself". Explain to me how a nerf could make Ryze better in lower elo?
I'd be embarrassed if I was illiterate since you apparently aren't able to read the multiple times now that I said "I never even implied Ryze needs a nerf".
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=swRqEuAA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-07T22:41:03.220+0000) > > In most elos the top 3 or 4 of the top 5 highest winrate toplaners are melee depending on what you count Kayle as. > > I'll list off some of the commonly picked ranged toplaners. > > {{champion:126}} 42/46 > {{champion:13}} 38/46 > {{champion:150}} 36/46 > {{champion:8}} 35/48 > > ~~~ > > {{champion:6}} 15/48 > {{champion:74}} 9/48 > {{champion:17}} 8/48 > {{champion:133}} 3/48 > > Whoa. Half of the ranged toplaners are in the worse half of the roster and half of them are in the better half. It's almost like they're actually balanced for the most part. well you have to think about this logically: Quinn top just isn't good anymore Heimer, Urgot and Teemo need reworks What about kenen and Vayne? The thing is almost no one plays the bottom 4 but almost everyone plays the top 4 who have an advantage over melee
Kennen is ranked at 20/46 and Vayne isn't appropriately listed as a toplaner, but her winrate toplane is 49.6% which would put her between 32 and 33/46. and if you want to talk about POPULARITY Vladimir is the only ranged champ in the top 10. Also, Urgot and Teemo definitely don't need reworks but that's a discussion for another time
: What do you call "tweaks" that make a champion better? Do you call them "buffs"? {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
I never actually even made any implications that these champs should be better. A tweak could also be a nerf, or even just a change that could ultimately be seen as neutral. You're embarrassing yourself trying to find any point to argue about for no reason when you can't even follow along. lmao
Moody P (NA)
: Mordekaiser is just an AP variant of Darius and he alongside Garen both need reworked because they're worthless
Passives - Mordekaiser's is an AoE field of damage around him after 3 hits. Darius' adds a DoT to his target. Q - Morde's is a wide skillshot that does less damage if it hits multiple targets. Darius' does less damage if it's too close and heals him. W - Morde's is a shield. Darius' is an auto attack reset/slow. E - Morde's is a delayed pull that can be angled to push close targets away from him. Darius' pulls targets to a fixed distance in front of him. R - Morde's steals base stats and and forces people into a 1v1 zone for 7 seconds. Darius' is an execute. Doesn't seem all too similar. It's strange that you havea Darius icon but you can't even differentiate his skills from Mordekaiser. Now if you meant that both Darius and Mordekaiser fill the same general role of being the team's immobile juggernaut, then you wouldn't be wrong.
ZaionX (NA)
: Eligibility For Season Victorious/Gold Skins
Gotta be in gold at the end of the season. Which should be in mid-late november
: So you think Riot should buff a champ so that theyre playable in low elo, and broken af in high elo?
There's already been plenty of attempts, on Ryze specifically, where Riot tried to nerf his pro play capabilities and while keeping his "low" elo play intact. Not that I even used the word "buff" in the first place, since I intentionally used the word "tweaks" in my first post. So try again
: Ryze has already been picked 5 times at worlds, with a 100% winrate. Your opinions of champs do not apply to high elo.
Yea, whenever I speak, I'm not talking about the top 0.05% of players that make up Masters rank and above/proplay. I'm talking about the other 99.95% of the playerbase when I say that Ryze is worthless. And if you think that anything the pros do applies to you or are more pertinent to your games than the statistics of the other 99.95% of the player base then that's another dicussion entirely about your delusion. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution
: After worlds riot have no excuse to not look at melee top laners
In most elos the top 3 or 4 of the top 5 highest winrate toplaners are melee depending on what you count Kayle as. I'll list off some of the commonly picked ranged toplaners. {{champion:126}} 42/46 {{champion:13}} 38/46 {{champion:150}} 36/46 {{champion:8}} 35/48 ~~~ {{champion:6}} 15/48 {{champion:74}} 9/48 {{champion:17}} 8/48 {{champion:133}} 3/48 Whoa. Half of the ranged toplaners are in the worse half of the roster and half of them are in the better half. It's almost like they're actually balanced for the most part.
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