: chromas have always worked like that tho
Doesn't say that anywhere though, and normally to even get a chance of getting chroma you need to buy the skin, but in this case they're giving you chroma's without having to buy it, and not telling you you need to buy it too lol.. Seems stingy af...
Sukishoo (NA)
: Do you own the True Damage skin ?
No, i thought this was a varient of it.. Nowhere does it say I have to buy the base skin too.... /facepalm Why wouldn't Riot tell you that to use a skin you have to buy another variant of it? So that's 600 points wasted.. on 2 skins I can't even use..
: This keystone is more random and useless than Kleptomancy. Granted, it has its advantages, but do they really outweigh the cost of taking the rune? Why would you take Omnistone if you could just take a more consistent, guaranteed synergy rune? The randomization of the rune itself is its downfall. There is no reason as to why you would take this over any other rune that has better consistent synergy with your champion. Kleptomancy was toxic because it allowed users to advance their lead faster than their opponent, and was often used in cheese strats to gain huge gold advantages over the enemy (see the Spellthief/Kleptomancy meta). The inherent RNG and gold advantage made it difficult to balance because it was either too strong by giving to much, or too weak by giving nothing. Those were the two options. Omnistone will suffer a worse fate. The randomness of the rune choices leave very little options for intelligent play. How are you going to be able to predict how a fight will turn out if you don't even know what your keystone will be when it starts? You have time to see your rune, but you can't always play around it so quickly during the game. Omnistone needs to be changed before they push it out. I think Kleptomancy has its problems and needs to be removed, but this is not a better solution.
> [{quoted}](name=FelixFurry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3npn3e6E,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-11-13T10:07:23.176+0000) > > This keystone is more random and useless than Kleptomancy. Granted, it has its advantages, but do they really outweigh the cost of taking the rune? Why would you take Omnistone if you could just take a more consistent, guaranteed synergy rune? The randomization of the rune itself is its downfall. There is no reason as to why you would take this over any other rune that has better consistent synergy with your champion. > > Kleptomancy was toxic because it allowed users to advance their lead faster than their opponent, and was often used in cheese strats to gain huge gold advantages over the enemy (see the Spellthief/Kleptomancy meta). The inherent RNG and gold advantage made it difficult to balance because it was either too strong by giving to much, or too weak by giving nothing. Those were the two options. > > Omnistone will suffer a worse fate. The randomness of the rune choices leave very little options for intelligent play. How are you going to be able to predict how a fight will turn out if you don't even know what your keystone will be when it starts? You have time to see your rune, but you can't always play around it so quickly during the game. > > Omnistone needs to be changed before they push it out. I think Kleptomancy has its problems and needs to be removed, but this is not a better solution. I think it works in 1v1 brawlers, and top lane. Your opponent can't always keep tabs of which rune you currently have, say you get electrocute, and poke, then it switches to hail of blades, now suddenly you're in their face and they aren't expecting the burst damage. The thing about 1v1 and top lane is you gotta play around your opponents strengths and weaknesses, and their play style, which is often times broadcasted by their rune choice in 1v1/top lane match ups. Now imagine going up against an opponent that could have any random rune and constantly changing up their play style? That becomes very difficult to track and fight against.
Lost R (NA)
: I'm seeing something consistent in all the games that are lost.
I agree, but its not as easy as you make it sound.. When a team steam rolls their lanes, those "objectives" become nearly impossible to take, because that collective enemy team can 1 shot half your team even when half of them are in side lanes. The damage creep and damage output in the game is excessively high. The only way, ONLY way a winning team loses is if they throw in a big way.. for over a year now, not seen a single game where the winning started losing and lost because the enemy team did everything right.. They only lost because they threw in a big way.
Kivolan (NA)
: Toning Down Ekko's Safety & Reliability
Everything you said is spot on, but you made one error in your analysis. You forgot to factor in Riot.. They don't care about balance.. They only care about keeping things "different" and the pro scene. Balance is the last thing they think about or care about.
: Blaming the jungler.
I would like to play the devils advocate here... Just got out of a game where I fed 2 kills to my top lane, (I was akali against aatrox.. horrible match up for me) only to have the jungler then come feed 2 more kills right after when I wasn't in lane (he somehow failed to kill the low hp aatrox twice).. and STILL blame me for "not playing safe" and "forcing engangement" even though after those 4 kills he was literally tower diving me and forcing me off, and I got no help from the team for the rest of the game... ------------------- As a jungler you need to take account of YOUR mistakes as well.. This is something I see even heavy jungler mains NOT DO ever.. Hell I've never heard anyone even mention it before.. If you feed even a single kill into a lane as a jungler you should be ganking that lane until you make up for that death. If you fuck up a lane, a gank, or feed kills into that lane, its your responsibility to make up for that mistake... not like "oh well that sucks" then move onto a different lane expecting everything to be fine...
: Laners just forget to use the map and expect ganks. When i am jg main and when i play top i use my vision whenever i can, i track the enemy jungler and i expect a gank to happen often. It's not difficult ro avoid ganks but the idiots who main lanes play too aggressive and forget junglers exist. Don't listen to those dogs who can't use the map. Just focus on what you're doing.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ppcIwRoz,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-06T10:04:54.743+0000) > > Laners just forget to use the map and expect ganks. When i am jg main and when i play top i use my vision whenever i can, i track the enemy jungler and i expect a gank to happen often. It's not difficult ro avoid ganks but the idiots who main lanes play too aggressive and forget junglers exist. Don't listen to those dogs who can't use the map. Just focus on what you're doing. The hilarity of it, as a jungle main myself, is that when you finally gank, 9/10 times your lane mates are like *surprised pikachu face* and watch you go 1v2, before finally (and usually too late) trying to do something.. Even after you aggressively pinged before hand...
: if someone REALLY is that bad that he "needs" to know it, why not add the person after the game and maybe with some nicer words tell them that their positioning needs working? i would appreciate that if someone told me that in a decent human being way.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer17,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qQlKTBlR,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-11-12T12:34:47.899+0000) > > if someone REALLY is that bad that he "needs" to know it, why not add the person after the game and maybe with some nicer words tell them that their positioning needs working? > > i would appreciate that if someone told me that in a decent human being way. If only it were this easy... The problem with the league community is you have 3 excessive extremes ALL of them creating an insanely toxic environment, especially when they're put together.. - You have the excessively toxic tilters, who rage like in the OP. - You have the excessively "nice but two faced" people, who will instantly support the first person who is remotely not treated like a living god, regardless of how passive, or normal the person made the comment. (Like "dude seriously man stay in the damn fight", then the two faced "nice" person turns excessively toxic trying to defend him and wont stop being a toxic white knight (This isa ctually most people on league I've found)). - Then you have the straight up trolls who are out to screw with you. The only thing all 3 have in common? They think they are better than you in every way. Anyone in between is caught in the cross fire, and even the neutral people just trying to have a nice time can come under attack by any of these 3 by doing literally nothing, (see it happen everyday). ------------- So my point, nobody wants to listen to you 9/10, in or out of a game.
: they can if they want to it's their time and its a video game especially if it's not ranked
> [{quoted}](name=Chocolate Cake,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zPjux7G3,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-14T04:07:06.595+0000) > > they can if they want to it's their time and its a video game especially if it's not ranked This boys is the state of the entitlement in our day and age... It's so excessive...
Comentários de Rioters
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cLst2Fhd,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-23T23:13:34.377+0000) > > No champ should be able to miss everything and still kill... Zed, Akali, and other champs havet his same problem with the insane damage overloaded into this game now. > > Zed can whiff 90% of his stuff and still 100-0 you in .3 seconds, and that's before he gets fed, just a few half damage items. The fact that this was upvoted shows the state of the boards. **This. Shit. Is. Not. True.**
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cLst2Fhd,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-24T03:09:20.535+0000) > > The fact that this was upvoted shows the state of the boards. > > **This. Shit. Is. Not. True.** How is it not true? Not only do I do it myself, but I have it happen to me. Or are you trying to claim I'm so amazing I can do what most people can't? In that case, thank you for the compliment.
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=0004000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-24T01:46:41.160+0000) > > Boy it's not often i see someone write so much yet say nothing at all... Well it was fun troll, very interesting to see the usual tropes played out with your "I know you are but what am I" mentality, but I really do have to get going on with life. I did particularly like the hilarious logic that 2+2 doesn't = 4 because 3+1 = 4 therefore 2+2 can't = 4... If you're half as smart as you think you are you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, well my point exactly. > > have a nice day. I find it amusing you can't defend yourself or your posts at all. Take your ball and run along now, junior.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=00040002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-24T02:26:57.608+0000) > > I find it amusing you can't defend yourself or your posts at all. Take your ball and run along now, junior. Defend what? from a false accusation? I give you constant points that defend it, and all you can do is give me a blanket troll responses. Telling me my argument was a "circular fallacy" without even once explaining how it was, isn't a refute, nor does it make you intelligent, nor does it even make you sound intelligent. It makes you sound and look like a troll, because that's all it is at that point. Then claiming my next argument is a straw man, yada yada.. when it clearly wasn't just goes on to prove more. You say big words, and I think you think it makes you smart.. problem is you have to understand what those meanings, terms, and words mean. Which you clearly don't. I honestly have no reason to keep wasting my time on someone who is either trolling me, or to far up his own rear to even argue intelligently out of fear of losing. it's pathetic either way.
: > [{quoted}](name=FOWSHOWBROW,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2019-09-23T18:31:17.880+0000) > > So you find it more productive to gobble everything up as it is rather than criticizing serious flaws that need fixing? > If the world was made up of people like you, I doubt we'd even be in the middle ages at this point. How do you think things improve at all? They don't improve by regurgitating the same tired old points that have no basis of fact in them. It's all just generalities with these types of posts. Most of which are just complete nonsense but they get upvoted because people like to bitch and complain instead of finding something better to do with their time.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=000400020000,timestamp=2019-09-23T22:52:45.003+0000) > > They don't improve by regurgitating the same tired old points that have no basis of fact in them. It's all just generalities with these types of posts. Most of which are just complete nonsense but they get upvoted because people like to bitch and complain instead of finding something better to do with their time. Boy it's not often i see someone write so much yet say nothing at all... Well it was fun troll, very interesting to see the usual tropes played out with your "I know you are but what am I" mentality, but I really do have to get going on with life. I did particularly like the hilarious logic that 2+2 doesn't = 4 because 3+1 = 4 therefore 2+2 can't = 4... If you're half as smart as you think you are you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, well my point exactly. have a nice day.
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=0004000300000000,timestamp=2019-09-23T23:04:57.763+0000) > > It's a circular reasoning that'sl ogical lol... > > You're on here complaining, about someone else complaining about the game.. You're claiming its pointless because Riot doesn't care, yet you seem to think anyone gives a crap about what you think about the thread.. Which they don't... > > It's really pathetic I had to point something so obvious out to you, just sayin. And that's a straw man. Nice work! {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=00040003000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-23T23:21:50.149+0000) > > And that's a straw man. Nice work! > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} ah yes, yet another "I'm going to troll so strawman!" argument. Good job. I made a point about the poster whining about whiners, and how its just as pointless to do that as his complaint the OP is whining. There is absolutely no straw man or fallacy in that... Do you think I'm stupid? Exactly why I think you're trolling at this point trying to pull me into an actual strawman argument as you keep attacking me over something that isn't happening. I fail to believe that you're that stupid, so you must be trolling me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Failmageddon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cLst2Fhd,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-23T03:50:15.274+0000) > > How did you get 100-0 if she missed all skill shots? Her Q and E are both skill shots. If she missed those and killed you, that's a reflection on you. there are some clips of pro players experiencing the same thing dodge everything then die anyway. i guess that reflection on them too. it happens sometimes, and everyone will call it bullshit.
No champ should be able to miss everything and still kill... Zed, Akali, and other champs havet his same problem with the insane damage overloaded into this game now. Zed can whiff 90% of his stuff and still 100-0 you in .3 seconds, and that's before he gets fed, just a few half damage items.
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=00040003,timestamp=2019-09-23T21:26:39.800+0000) > > Then what are you even here for? To cry about threads complaining about the game? If the thread is pointless, your response and your reasons being on the thread are even worse than pointless. Nice circular reasoning fallacy.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=000400030000,timestamp=2019-09-23T22:54:13.824+0000) > > Nice circular reasoning fallacy. It's a circular reasoning that'sl ogical lol... You're on here complaining, about someone else complaining about the game.. You're claiming its pointless because Riot doesn't care, yet you seem to think anyone gives a crap about what you think about the thread.. Which they don't... It's really pathetic I had to point something so obvious out to you, just sayin.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: Jesus Christ, i don't understand why people who think this come to the boards and complain rather than just quitting already. Riot literally doesn't care about the playerbase's opinions, so coming here to complain does NOTHING.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-23T14:33:28.903+0000) > > Jesus Christ, i don't understand why people who think this come to the boards and complain rather than just quitting already. Riot literally doesn't care about the playerbase's opinions, so coming here to complain does NOTHING. Then what are you even here for? To cry about threads complaining about the game? If the thread is pointless, your response and your reasons being on the thread are even worse than pointless.
: I'm Shocked that a Player like this Exists
play ranked.. This is laughably mild compared to what I see in bronze, silver, and low gold... and those are RANKED games.. yet people throw them on purpose for the tiniest issue.
: I general you should be aware that if you don't use chat with the intent of winning , but with the intent of HURTING someone you should NOT be allowed to talk , and when what you are saying is extreme and can GRAVELY affect someone psychologically weak Then you should be warned equally. Some people have actual real life struggle with suicidal ideas and should not be forced to hear such people. The system protect the weak , not the idiots. Don't want to get banned ? be civilized and understanding. if you think i'm not allowed to have fun, then you should be the one not having fun. Now face the karma and grow up
> [{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=d8HfVxpW,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-09-22T22:41:03.942+0000) > > I general you should be aware that if you don't use chat with the intent of winning , but with the intent of HURTING someone > you should NOT be allowed to talk , and when what you are saying is extreme and can GRAVELY affect someone psychologically weak > Then you should be warned equally. > > Some people have actual real life struggle with suicidal ideas and should not be forced to hear such people. > > The system protect the weak , not the idiots. > > Don't want to get banned ? be civilized and understanding. > if you think i'm not allowed to have fun, then you should be the one not having fun. > Now face the karma and grow up Problem is the karma is against legit players, and protects the trolls, and immature toxic players. At least how Riot has it setup. 6 year account with no prior bans gets perma banned after I told off the 6th person throwing a ranked game resulting in my demotion. Now youc an claim "but that' can't be possible" Believe me , it is with Riots new system they failed to tell anyone about. Worst thing I said to the guy was he was a mistake. Toxic? Don't think so. I believe people have every right to be upset and tell off the person actually being toxic.. It's not like I was trashing my teammates. I was legit upset that this A hole was throwing a ranked game on purpose screwing us all over. I said nothing racial, or sexist. 4 ranked throwers later in a span of 3 weeks I get perma banned. ----------- Hardly justice, seeing as how these twats are still to this day throwing ranked games on purpose, and creating actual toxic environment, yet the player who wanted to give his all and the best for his team is perma banned. Seems legit.
: I mean i even pointed out with questions what you shouldve explained that you did not explain. And of course because i asked you to support your claims you decided to do what every person on the boards does when they toss up illogical claims, insult the person asking me to support my claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Here you go buddy do some reading here to learn why what you just said doesnt prove anything besides that you're the one being illogical. Have a nice day :)
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q1EGvoZb,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-22T07:11:08.690+0000) > > I mean i even pointed out with questions what you shouldve explained that you did not explain. > > And of course because i asked you to support your claims you decided to do what every person on the boards does when they toss up illogical claims, insult the person asking me to support my claims. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem > Here you go buddy do some reading here to learn why what you just said doesnt prove anything besides that you're the one being illogical. > Have a nice day :) ah yes the age old ad hominem scapegoat. "I can't win my argument, so here's the ad hominem argument" lawls... whatever kid.
: "just F off with the overpowered BS in damage, inject steroids into defense, buff the towers across the board, and normalize the damage." This is not a solution. what does f off with op bs in dmg mean. What do they change? Whats wrong with tank items? Buff towers how? Their dmg? Their tankiness? Both? Their attackspeed? Normalize the damage is a fairly broad statement explain what you mean by this I'm not a mind reader. "games decided in 10 minutes is insanely boring..." Games arent decided by 10 mins now. Id argue this is due to player mentality and skill level that games are decided this early. "From there F off with the release of new broken champs that do nothing but make a bad situation worse." You havent said how theyre broken or how they make the situation worse. " normalize a base ground of floor and ceiling power they (each class) should have across the board, and start implementing those changes through nerfs and buffs to all champions." This is probably the closest you got to explaining your point and even here you didnt say how you take into account late game champs, early game champs, champion kits, champion cc. Are you saying Lissandra and xerath should do the same amount of dmg? Both under the mage class. "Balancing League isn't as hard as people like to think it is, not if you use your brain and take it in logical steps. It'll take time sure, but that's absolutely no excuse not to do it." My issue comes in tthat you havent said anything logical besides that one statement everything else has been your opinion. Which not everyone agrees with.
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q1EGvoZb,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-21T19:11:31.189+0000) > > "just F off with the overpowered BS in damage, inject steroids into defense, buff the towers across the board, and normalize the damage." > This is not a solution. what does f off with op bs in dmg mean. What do they change? Whats wrong with tank items? Buff towers how? Their dmg? Their tankiness? Both? Their attackspeed? Normalize the damage is a fairly broad statement explain what you mean by this I'm not a mind reader. > > "games decided in 10 minutes is insanely boring..." > Games arent decided by 10 mins now. Id argue this is due to player mentality and skill level that games are decided this early. > > "From there F off with the release of new broken champs that do nothing but make a bad situation worse." > You havent said how theyre broken or how they make the situation worse. > > " normalize a base ground of floor and ceiling power they (each class) should have across the board, and start implementing those changes through nerfs and buffs to all champions." > This is probably the closest you got to explaining your point and even here you didnt say how you take into account late game champs, early game champs, champion kits, champion cc. > Are you saying Lissandra and xerath should do the same amount of dmg? Both under the mage class. > > "Balancing League isn't as hard as people like to think it is, not if you use your brain and take it in logical steps. It'll take time sure, but that's absolutely no excuse not to do it." > My issue comes in tthat you havent said anything logical besides that one statement everything else has been your opinion. Which not everyone agrees with. lol...... that's all I'm going to respond with, because it made me lol... If you can't read what I wrote and understand it, than you're either trolling me, or don't have the logic required for an intelligent conversation. Have a nice day.
: THIS is what a team fight should look like....
Now that's the most interesting fight I've seen since 2016...
: Well assuming you're saying theres a middle ground can you explain how that middle ground could be reached? Because so far you've just tossed up idealistic comments with no way of actually creating this middle ground.
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q1EGvoZb,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-20T20:51:23.853+0000) > > Well assuming you're saying theres a middle ground can you explain how that middle ground could be reached? > > Because so far you've just tossed up idealistic comments with no way of actually creating this middle ground. What? lol... I mean this isn't rocket science my dude its pretty basic. 45 minute to 1 hour games are too long... games decided in 10 minutes is insanely boring... 25-30 minutes that allow for either team to come back wouldn't be bad at all. How do they do it? Short term: Well they are already there mostly... just F off with the overpowered BS in damage, inject steroids into defense, buff the towers across the board, and normalize the damage. THat would be a good start at least. They had this in the game, and threw it away so they can do it again.. Long Term: From there F off with the release of new broken champs that do nothing but make a bad situation worse. From there focus on the goals and reasons champs even exist to begin with. Find out where the placement of them needs to be, and normalize a base ground of floor and ceiling power they (each class) should have across the board, and start implementing those changes through nerfs and buffs to all champions. ----------------------- Balancing League isn't as hard as people like to think it is, not if you use your brain and take it in logical steps. It'll take time sure, but that's absolutely no excuse not to do it. Riot wasn't afraid to kill their game, I don't know why they are afraid of fixing it.
: People complained about slower games in the past now when they made it fast, people are complaining about faster games and want it slowed down.
Both extremes are wrong. You also can't please everyone, but you can have a good middle ground. Whats with people always only thinking in extremes...
Comentários de Rioters
Lythe (NA)
: I think people here are forgetting that we already have a PRACTICE tool in the game... you know, where you can go to practice csing... champion mechanics... Also, if you want to practice against other people, that is what normal and blind draft are meant to be, blind especially as many times most of the people playing blind are new players, so if you're starting out on a new champion you'll be with people just learning the game. Also, as far as the O.P. and their suggestion... Those are all mechanics you're meant to learn over time while playing the game and are things that quite frankly you aren't going to simply learn by going into a training mode. Every champion functions differently, some can take more poke some can take less, some are easy to cs on and some are not. I doubt they'd take the time to actually code a scenario for each specified champion to grade you, not to mention the time it would take to make each scenario.
> [{quoted}](name=Lythe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLfQs5Rn,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-09-18T12:57:20.539+0000) > > I think people here are forgetting that we already have a PRACTICE tool in the game... you know, where you can go to practice csing... champion mechanics... Also, if you want to practice against other people, that is what normal and blind draft are meant to be, blind especially as many times most of the people playing blind are new players, so if you're starting out on a new champion you'll be with people just learning the game. > > Also, as far as the O.P. and their suggestion... Those are all mechanics you're meant to learn over time while playing the game and are things that quite frankly you aren't going to simply learn by going into a training mode. Every champion functions differently, some can take more poke some can take less, some are easy to cs on and some are not. I doubt they'd take the time to actually code a scenario for each specified champion to grade you, not to mention the time it would take to make each scenario. Where did I say they needed to code something for every specific champ? And why is a proper training tool something you think is pointless? There's a reason why people in sports do things over and over, it helps get better extremely faster than just training the skills during games.. It's why basketball players shoot baskets at different points on the court over and over in the same spot again and again. It helps repetition, muscle memory, etc. Just doing it during the games sure you'll get better, but you won't get better nearly as fast. This is the same thing. Not to mention having tools telling you how well you're doing which is a huge benefit.
: This is a cool idea, but would end up just making lower elos feel bad getting d's on cs score every time while trying hard to improve which is discouraging. (Fixed by having options which optimize by ranked averages). The other problem is twofold of 1. People play less actual league and 2. If they do practice more, everyone improves = no one improves Both of which are sad, but are kinda why it is so difficult to get new players into league rn anyway
That's not discouraging, that's life. People, especially kids and this generation need to learn the joys of becoming better, not staying crap while getting rewarded, or people saying "good job". That being said.. you wont ever get better with that mentality. Let them know how good or bad they are, show where they need to improve.
: It's actually fucking astonishing
Since season 4 I've been 100% positive that they intentionally pair you with a "troll". it's mathematically impossible the ratio's of games vs promo's with trolls. It's damn near 100%. It shouldn't be that way if it was truly random.
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: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1PE67TJA,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T13:42:35.050+0000) > > I'm still waiting for 1 intelligent thing from you.. Just 1.. you remember me, but i don't remember you, you see how this works?
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1PE67TJA,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T13:56:47.438+0000) > > you remember me, but i don't remember you, you see how this works? yea you still fail the most basic logic lol You don't "remember" me because I don't say stupid things and I never responded to you before. I have however, remembered you because of how idiotic your posts are. Usually people get remembered for intelligent things they said, or laughably stupid things.. Unfortunately your posts are consistantly stupid on a massive level, so I remember you. I mean, the fact I had to point that out to you just proves my point.
: We've been wrong all this time.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1zX6lbK,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-15T10:16:59.614+0000) > In short... As it turns out, it's not the community that's toxic. It's the game. My theory is that the game spurs toxicity, leading the a volatile community. The game is toxic, and that is not a good sign. Been saying that for 6 years.
: > [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1PE67TJA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-17T02:02:27.887+0000) > > Is your gimmick around here to just be a contrarian? only if you follow me selectively, which would make you a biased observer, so best you stay in your own lane.
I'm still waiting for 1 intelligent thing from you.. Just 1..
: Zed is really hard to master, but his baseline difficulty was never that great (i.e. really high skillcap, not that high skill floor). I mean, his typical combo is pointing the enemy with mouse and tapping each button once, in metas when he is strong enough to kill with that he is picked by literally every midlaner. He used to be difficult when you needed to poke your enemy for quite a while before going for all-in, or outplay CC to ensure you land enough autos for a kill, but that was not a case since like season 5.
There's a problem there buddy... You don't need to "master" zed to completely dominate with him across the board.. You don't need to do faker outplays to go 20/3 with him in a majority of your games... He has so much insane damage burst straight out of the gate now, that after even 1 or 2 kills he's now popping off and 1 shotting everyone, 3-4 kills, he can miss half his kit, and still 1 shot squishies. To make matters worse, since he has the LB problem of having so many large distance gap closers on his kit which he can use for extreme safety if need be while still securing fast easy kills.. Got behind in lane as zed? No problem, farm safely with Q, and use your shadow and farm safely with ease. He is an assassin with literally everything overloaded into his kit... Massive INSTANT burst damage on his ult, up to 3 long range "dashes", Easy safe farming if you get behind, 2 different ways to get to the bakc line, AND get out safely with little threat to yourself (unless you're super super high elo where everyone is instantly turning on you in seconds, which lets be real, only happens in masters)... What else could you possibly want on such an overloaded assassin? If he had to actually hit his skill shots to do major damage, and stagger his damage between skills with 1-2 second wait time in between (like akali), then he'd be balanced, but he can instant burst, face roll and get out free.
floo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=jotarowo,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07nk0f7Q,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-09-14T14:46:05.274+0000) > > You're missing the point No, this is upvote farming. People get banned for trolling, but it's not instantly after the game they int. That's because there is no clear difference between playing bad and soft inting. While it might seem obvious ingame, Riot doesn't have the manpower to individually look into every single game that's being reported, considering people report each other for dying twice in lane. How do you even know that they don't get punished? Do you seriously believe any of the people writing these posts look a second time at the profile of these trolls ever again? Does that mean Riot shouldn't improve the system? Hell no, do whatever you can to make it better. Bring back the tribunal for player based reviews to make it easier for Riot to dish out correct punishments. It works perfectly fine in CS:GO and they've proven able to copy their design (looking at their stattrack excuse for eternals). But these kind of posts have no substance whatsoever and are the same kind of "I got inted why don't I get instant-feedback reee" while also questioning how they got permabanned from chatting. Ffs it takes 4 steps to get perma'd from chatting, you can't be that delusional. Nobody likes afk's and trolls on their team, but by just whining about it and not bringing any sustance to the discussion it's just useless spam.
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07nk0f7Q,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T15:26:59.019+0000) > > No, this is upvote farming. > > People get banned for trolling, but it's not instantly after the game they int. That's because there is no clear difference between playing bad and soft inting. While it might seem obvious ingame, Riot doesn't have the manpower to individually look into every single game that's being reported, considering people report each other for dying twice in lane. > > How do you even know that they don't get punished? Do you seriously believe any of the people writing these posts look a second time at the profile of these trolls ever again? > > Does that mean Riot shouldn't improve the system? Hell no, do whatever you can to make it better. Bring back the tribunal for player based reviews to make it easier for Riot to dish out correct punishments. It works perfectly fine in CS:GO and they've proven able to copy their design (looking at their stattrack excuse for eternals). > > But these kind of posts have no substance whatsoever and are the same kind of "I got inted why don't I get instant-feedback reee" while also questioning how they got permabanned from chatting. Ffs it takes 4 steps to get perma'd from chatting, you can't be that delusional. > > Nobody likes afk's and trolls on their team, but by just whining about it and not bringing any sustance to the discussion it's just useless spam. 1) I am not up vote farming. I'm trying to create a ruckus and get the fuel burning to make riot change their garbage practices of how they deal with problems in games.. 2) If Riot gave 2 craps about the situation, there are PLENTY of ways they could institute a fair way to catch the trolls, and purposeful inters, and afkers. I gave no less than 5 different ways they could do it in the past. 3) 4 of the trolls I reported who I know afk on purpose, don't care, and purposefully feed almost immediately in games are still playing to this day after over 3 months. One of them over a year, and I STILL see streaks of games where they go like 3/40 and insane crap like that and the game ends quickly. 4) The Tribunal was an absolute joke. You don't let trolls, jaded players, and upset kids vote. You can't trust that voting system to be fair, and proper, and a vast majority of the player base are too far up their own behinds, and too twisted on what the "rules" of League mean to even agree with each other, let alone a game where you can't even see what's happening, and can only see one person getting upset. (which could be for a very legit reason) 5) Yes it takes 4 steps to get perma banned. (Or at least used too), and you can get into those 4 steps for some very flaky, weak reasons.. Just because its a 4 step process, doesn't mean its magically fair, or works.. 6) So if my post has no "substance". Than what is your post? If not spam? Because you certainly brought nothing but whining to this thread.. Whining about the thread claiming its doing nothing but whining with no substance while yours brings nothing either is... hilarious ironic.
floo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MkLBR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07nk0f7Q,comment-id=0003000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T20:26:18.869+0000) > > maybe if riot fixed their shit they wouldn't have to apply strict chat filters lol What does one thing have to do with the other? People being assholes is punishable regardless of context, except for the very unusual case where someone types a quote or something. And it's not like other people are the reason you can't behave properly. I don't know why people have such a problem understanding this. Just because some guy afk's or ints doesn't mean you get to break the rules yourself. It's always been part of the TOS that you can't harass other people or in chat in general. There is no being "strict". If you cannot behave like a decent human person then don't be surprised if you get punished.
Has everything to do with it. No other online game I Play has such a problem with toxicity. Not even Dota 2. (Anymore anyway once they cleaned up their community). I'm not saying it doesn't still happen, but I can play 10-15 games of Dota 2 and see only very light frustration in chat, that usually dies away quickly and everyone is back on track. In League though? lol...... We all know what happens... A vast majority of perma bans are what I'd consider illegitimate. People getting frustrated, and pissed off at someone being toxic.. To me, that's not the real offender, the real offender is someone doing toxic actions and actually creating the toxic environment. Dota, and every other major game developer understands this.. They'll perma ban the toxic actions, and slap the wrist of the person who got upset, if even that.. Not the other way around.. Normally they'll just let it go because they know there's nothing wrong getting upset that someone is legit throwing a ranked game. Not the other way around... This is why only League of Legends has such a notoriously crappy community and toxicity levels unheard of in any other game... Riot ignores the real problem, and keeps slamming extreme bans on players who only want a clean game.
: Please tell me the nerfs to defense, like a better defense crit item was added, towers last longer, tank items have been getting nerfed, conqueror get nerfed. It sounds like you are just mad at losing to a fed zed and instead of blaming yourself or your team you for some reason think it's unfair that a fed zed should kill a tank fast or a champion fast like no if a champion is fed they will do lot of damage.
literally everyone is saying there is way too much damage, multiple high up vote discussions how defense is pointless, and yet when I make the argument I get downvoted lol.. gotta love the boards..
Nasakeki (NA)
: Then why pour so much money and time into it? Whoever told you it operates at a loss is lying to you.
> [{quoted}](name=Nasakeki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-13T01:29:50.218+0000) > > Then why pour so much money and time into it? Whoever told you it operates at a loss is lying to you. It can very easily operate at a loss when the investors, and stock market continue to go up.
Nasakeki (NA)
: So every ADC, Yi, Yasuo, and plenty of other champs. Yuumi is not broken, but she doesn't make big plays in LC$, and that's not okay.
> [{quoted}](name=Nasakeki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-09-13T01:28:37.620+0000) > > So every ADC, Yi, Yasuo, and plenty of other champs. > > Yuumi is not broken, but she doesn't make big plays in LC$, and that's not okay. There are alot of adc's with counterplay. That being said, no an adc cannot sit there, and be untergettable while slamming CC's, and damage in your face, with a massive aoe ult stun.
Bugog (NA)
: When riot decides that something is the identity of a champion they don't change it regardless of how toxic it is. This is why when they adjust certain champions they never address the thing that community thinks is OP. Sylas - self heal Yas - 100% crit off 2 items Pyke - at this point I'm not even sure anymore Vayne - % true damage etc etc Yuumi's Q has been nerfed multiple times. Her E is dogshit (err, catshit) that is only partially salvaged by athenes. Her ult is kinda strong, but not the largest part of her kit. Her passive has been nerfed into the ground. The only thing they haven't touched is the W, so you know what they think the core part of her kit is.
> [{quoted}](name=Bugog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2019-09-13T19:00:48.478+0000) > > When riot decides that something is the identity of a champion they don't change it regardless of how toxic it is. > > This is why when they adjust certain champions they never address the thing that community thinks is OP. > > Sylas - self heal > Yas - 100% crit off 2 items > Pyke - at this point I'm not even sure anymore > Vayne - % true damage > etc etc > > Yuumi's Q has been nerfed multiple times. Her E is dogshit (err, catshit) that is only partially salvaged by athenes. Her ult is kinda strong, but not the largest part of her kit. Her passive has been nerfed into the ground. > > The only thing they haven't touched is the W, so you know what they think the core part of her kit is. Exactly.. This is why Akali will always be a toxic OP champ to the community regardless of how nerfed she is. Her kit and her identity is the problem.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T00:03:37.838+0000) > > irritating doesn't make her good or necessitate "nerfing her into oblivion" irritating means something in her kit has to change, as if she's allowed to be strong, then she's overbearing cancer. She's just another azir/kalista/akali/irelia/ryze/etc. As long as she's kept in her current state with her overloaded kit, players will find her frustrating to play with and against, and she'll keep a high ban rate.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T00:08:17.492+0000) > > irritating means something in her kit has to change Well fuck we gotta re work the entire league roster then.. they ALL are irritating to play against..
: "event" "mission" "rewards"
> [{quoted}](name=Hot LeBlanc Yuri,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qz1jtEEO,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-12T20:28:02.387+0000) > > Has anyone noticed how mission rewards are getting worse and worse. Like.. a HEXTECH chest after you compleated 5 other missions, not even a mastercraft chest, or a shitty orb or the event capsule, just a hextech chest, that will probably contain a champ shard. > And the missions leading up to that hextech chest are even worse- BE? most people already have more than enough, and once you have all the champs BE is pretty much useless. > Previous events would give you orbs, chests, emotes, icons ON your way to the final mission. > Compare this Star Guardian event to odyssey, we even got a exclusive skin at the very end. > This + giving up on any future PVE + eternal$ is just a sad future for this game, if it even has one. Whats your point? I remember when events, missions, etc. didn't exist, and you had to grind 900 games to get a champion... This is still better.
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: ah okay, i see. Though IMO people are over blowing this buff. The R change doesn't really matter due to the Ratio adjustment. Doing the math, her ult damage only goes up by 6.4%. that's almost nothing, considering its an execute. the buff ends up being half of your bonus ad. Before: AT 100 bAD Rank 1- 100 + 60 = 160 + 200% = 480 Rank 2- 150 + 60 = 210 + 200% = 630 Rank 3- 200 + 60 = 260 + 200% = 780 After buff: AT 100 bAD Rank 1- 175 + 90 = 265 + 100% = 530 Rank 2- 250 + 90 = 340 + 100% = 680 Rank 3- 325 + 90 = 415 + 100% = 830 So in reality the buff is literally (1/2 bAD + original max damage.) So while yes her ult might end up doing like around 150-200 more dmg late game, it still just her execute and those damage numbers are when you are at her max threshold anyway. So essentially it doesn't matter. The E buff is minimal, considering that the ability is maxed last in most cases. So while yes, its an overall buff. it's honestly not that major. the only real changes will be felt late game. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> [{quoted}](name=TheRunicBlade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QfkmG0M1,comment-id=001600000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T03:53:49.623+0000) > > the only real changes will be felt late game. > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Or when she inevitably gets fed from her OP kit, and she's now hitting late game when everyone else is still in early game. Making her able to snowball and face wreck the enemy team even easier... It's not as small as you make it out to be.
: This has to be a fucking joke right? That legitimately made me mad. Fire your ENTIRE fucking balance team if they think it's even remotely ok to buff Riven. Ah who are we kidding Riot is just EA/2K 2.0 at this point. Literally buffing champs to sell skins, they're not even hiding it anymore. Next thing we know you can only unlock the batshit op new champions through hextech chests. Fucking joke of a company.
They don't care about balance, they even admitted it themselves multiple time in dev interviews .... "THe trick to making league fun and interesting, and viable year after year is to keep things interesting, and always make it fresh". They don't give a fuck about "balance" It's not a "balance team" its a team to throw in random ass numbers to keep things fresh and different.
: They litterally adjusted her and gave her a very very minor nerf saying she was a little op. Now turning around and giving GIANT BUFFS to her. wtf
Because its what I've been saying for the past FOUR years... Riots "balance" changes isn't that.. They're throwing out stupid crap just to make it look like they care. All they really care about (and they pretty much admitted to it at this point), is keeping the game "Fresh and interesting" by introducing constant changes.. They don't give 2 fucks about balance.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QfkmG0M1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-12T22:05:48.503+0000) > >About most of the year. More like most of the decade
Yea, she's been a broken mess since release... took me all of about 5 games to master her anim cancel too.. Not perfect mind you, but more than enough to carry games with.. and I'm not even that good of a player... She isn't nearly as difficult or "skill" as people love to claim she is.. Hell she's so overloaded that just face smashing the keyboard literally in a fight will generally create several anim cancels so long as you know about the right combination, and you'll pull out quad and penta kills without even knowing how you're doing it... its laughably hilarious..... My old account, I was stuck in bronze, carried myself to gold I with her and still had no idea how I was getting those kills, just face rolled her shit into the enemy and free quad kills.
: > [{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QfkmG0M1,comment-id=0001000000030000,timestamp=2019-09-13T16:38:13.363+0000) > > I mean, Im super bias against Tahm Kench. Especially in toplane. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Oof, well i can tell you he is definitively not good rn. Just pick illaoi, jax, darius, or any ranged top (vayne is a nightmare) and just poop on him. If you are really having trouble, just pretend he is teemo and don't fight him until 6 and then absolutely annihilate him bc he is basically a fat toad minion
Are you joking? what low elo do you play in? lol... A bruiser tahm kench that builds alot of damage and some defense can totally face wreck the vast majority of champions in the game. He slows, stuns, can eat you and regain his health back, and then gets a monster shield ontop of that.. YOu literally have to deal 3x more damage tohim than you'd need too against any other champion, while still recieving an absolute smashing yourself because his AD ratio's, scale so well with damage items.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vfYM1hWs,comment-id=000500000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-09-13T11:06:25.085+0000) > > Calling an inter who is intentionally throwing a game worthless is not wrong. > > Oh right, I forgot, Hitler wasn't a bad person. Just misunderstood, and you should treat him equally and with compassion right? > > > That's how far that logic of yours goes.. Which is why I can't agree with it, and no you cant suddenly back pedal and say "but that's not what I'm talking about" You can't pick and choose when to assert your logic, either you believe everything is toxic, and or you believe you should NEVER say anything "negative" no matter what it is. Because that's the extreme logic you're putting in here. > > I hope using the extreme case of hitler and putting your logic too it shows you the ridiculousness of your logic. > > ANd again, just because this is far less extreme, doesn't make it any less absurd. Using Hitler to make a false equivalence only proves how weak your argument is, to have to rely on such desperate tactics. NOBODY, specially not me, is saying that inters aren't all those things and more. But you accepted a user agreement, and the rules that you agreed to follow are that you wouldn't be toxic in chat. Period. People who can't follow agreements they previously make are just as bad as inters.
Its not a false equivalence. Good work using a large word to try to make yourself sound smart though. Just because you claim its weak, doesn't make it so. If it was such a weak argument, you'd actually tear it apart with intelligent points and facts, not blanket it as a "Weak argument" and walk away. The user agreement states that I am not supposed to interrupt, or assault other players in racial, sexist, or other forms of insults, as well as not to purposefully cause a negative environment. I was doing none of these, and if you can't seriously figure out the difference, that's really really pathetic. Again, it'd be like the police arresting you for hate speech and disturbing the peace because you told a thief to get the F out of your house, and pointed a gun at him. It's literally the same thing going on here. You're telling a person who is purposefully disrupting the game, and causing a toxic environment to knock it off. Regardless of whether what words you use (so long as they're not racial, sexist, etc.). You're not the one causing the problem, its him. It's really pathetic you can't tell the difference. ---------------------- And you are the biggest reason why League community can't get better. You literally defend these toxic actions. You say you don't, but on the other hand you have no qualms perma banning someone who is upset that someone else is throwing the game. Both Riot, and its community needs to learn the difference between a troll, inter, afker, and player going out of his way to throw the game vs a player who is legit upset, and calling them out. There is a HUGE difference, and no getting upset and telling a troll off is exactly what should be happening. Because its that logic and mentality that Riot should have. They should care that games are being ruined, and people getting upset by these disgusting actions, not targeting the person because their time is being stolen by a bunch of dim wit trolls, inters, etc. ---------------------------- If you want to win this argument little boy, you need to explain how calling a troll out is bad, and creating an unhealthy environment in an environment that has already been killed by the troll. Explain to me as well how telling off a feeder who is purposefully feeding and throwing the game is creating a negative environment that's worse than the feeder. Explain to me how someone getting upset seeing these disgusting actions in every other game is wrong. (Because that's what you're punishing severely) Also don't use the word "Toxic" it means nothing. It's a weak ass blanket descriptor word that people throw around for anything they don't like. It means less than troll does these days.
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