Kuponya (NA)
: Forcing Wukong to take conqueror?
It's only on his ult though, it's not like the Garen interaction where he insta stacks conqueror on every trade.
: I hope this isnt what Riot thinks because addiction play without fun actually costs them more money. People buy skins when they have fun = money earned. People spamming games costs money because servers eat power for every game they run.
Maybe in the short term, but in the long term the addicted will buy more skins because they will play the game longer. The non addicted might quit the game and never buy skins anymore.
: Victorious Aatrox Ult Form Wing Updates
Wow, huge improvement there. Nice work.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Only? or do they also scale with AD?
Her Q heal also scales with 40% bonus AD. Her ult shield does not have an AD ratio, but scales with her souls collected (1.5 shield per soul).
: "Senna is just gonna be an ADC!" - Debunking the Myth
Although I do agree that she won't hit as hard as a normal ADC, her range buff is a serious factor. Even if she does less damage than others, being able to do it from 700-750 range late game is huge.
: Does her healing/shielding scale with AP? Does anyone know that yet? I know that would be a terrible decision but just wanted to know.
Yep. Her Q heal has a 25% AP ratio and her ult shield has 40%.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Whats stopping Ez from taking Comet? Or Harvest+Impact? Or even PtA
See the thing is that he will use those runes. It's just that Klepto is so powerful on him that he was nerfed multiple times due to his performance with it. Therefore he probably needs to be more powerful in a world where Klepto no longer exists.
: Ezreal is fucking dead. New klepto sounds like shit, maybe if you could choose but you can't. WHO WANTS THIS????? it's fucking random. If you're playing idk xayah and you take this you go from PTA to fucking gasp and then your damage is now shit. Most champions are only good with 1 maybe 2 runes. No champion makes use out of all them. This rune is horrible. Also why is jg xp getting fucking gutted? That doesn't fix anything that makes it worst. The rest is good. Edit: My main point is about klepto not ezreal, I really don't care if he is shit or op.
Ezreal will probably get buffed in response to this, considering he relies completely on it. Or at least I would hope.
: Buy a Kayle skin. Make it to late game.
: I missed you all
Sukishoo (NA)
: Unfortunately they probably don't have the unaltered audio
I mean at first aetherwing kayle had voice processing but they removed it due to popular demand. So I bet they do keep the original versions.
Savvyal (NA)
: So making riven's e cooldown shorter is a nerf? In what world?
They meant that it is a nerf in comparison to her pre 9.10 state. "We're trying again by **reverting back to her pre-9.10 state** and adding a simpler nerf to her E instead" Strange wording to be fair.
: Patch 9.17 notes
Ornn (OCE)
: I played {{champion:78}} and vs a {{champion:10}} i built against her {{item:3143}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3194}} and it did nothing because she built {{item:3124}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3153}} i was levels ahead and items ahead but because she had 0 ad attack speed items she melted me. if you cant build against it it shuld not be in the game
Rule #1 of Kayle: no matter how behind she gets, if the game goes on long enough she will shred you. If you choose to 1v1 her when she gets to that point then that's on you.
: Reduce klepto gold on ranged champions
How bout we remove it and compensate the champs that fall in winrate in its absence. Legit the rune is only ever used by champs who abuse it and then they subsequently become forced to use it because they are balanced with it in mind.
Valendin (NA)
: League Match History Bug
: How is Kayle OP?
She is OP right now. Here's a hint: rush either gunblade or botrk, not lichbane. The sustain is massive for surviving lane.
Emo Twink (OCE)
: Morgana vs Kayle Bias with Skin Effects
As far as Kayle is concerned, Judgment, Riot, Battleborn and Silver all looked really weird with yellow particles. For Morg, the only skins that use her basic particles are classic, Sinful Succulence and Blade Mistress. I think Blade Mistress looks good with the classic particles, but I'm actually surprised that Sinful Succulence didn't get custom effects, especially considering it is worth 975 RP. And unfortunately I don't think it's something that a simple recolor can fix.
: Is the biggest reason of kayle being melee range before lv 11, Top laners?
When a champion does hypercarry damage late game they can't also be a mega bully in the laning phase. Since Riot wanted to keep her as a hypercarry, they had to reduce her early game strength. However I do think that Kayle currently on the PBE has way too high mana costs to ever survive the laning phase, let alone win it.
: Don't forget {{champion:92}} in some situations. Yeah I really used to like the idea of Shojin{{item:3161}} for {{champion:240}} and the like, but now I guess I have to work with... this... thing :P From what I read they didn't believe Shojin{{item:3161}} was good because it was a Steraks{{item:3053}} that {{champion:202}} would be too good at using and maybe also {{champion:107}}
No, it was because the item's purpose was basically the same as {{item:3053}} , which means that {{item:3161}} would only be used if it had better numbers than {{item:3053}}.
: Roadmap hype?
So excited! I need more info on my angel asap. Hopefully they announce morde in there because he is clearly overdue for a rework.
: Were all remade champs worse than their original?
It depends, most of the reworks that were failures were the class update ones, like {{champion:96}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:82}} Imo the only VGUs that sucked were the ones that strayed too far from the original like {{champion:266}} {{champion:3}}
: Give Garen spin a slow!
: Kayle rework ?
Agreed. I dont want another Aatrox where they delete the old one and its playstyle.
: Why is Nexus Blitz still a limited event? I thought it's meant to be a permanent feature in the future.
The mode is still experimental. They want to gauge interest in the mode to see if it should be permanent or not.
: garen needs to be nerfed
: Shaco and magic pen.
I think the reason for the change was that, at the time, shaco was building a tank/bruiser build because his e allowed him to have a high degree of mixed damage which was difficult to itemize against. In order to get rid of bruiser shaco, they changed his E to physical damage so it would scale with lethality items. Unfortunately this has the side effect of making AP shaco have a difficult time itemizing penetration, which is a pretty big nerf.
: After numerous amounts of reworks to Guinsoo's Rageblade, what do you think of this new iteration?
As a {{champion:10}} main, I feel that this is a pretty big nerf. Mainly because she likes the large amount of AP the current Rageblade grants, and doesn't benefit that much from the pen the new one gives because she already has % pen on her passive.
: Champions who deserve the Ezreal treatment
{{champion:103}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:45}}
: With the recent change to Guinsoo,it's going to have 4 PASSIVES
Nah it only has 3 passives: granting 15 on hit magic damage, granting level scaling armor and magic pen, and granting the AS stacking passive. Unless you are counting phantom hit as the 4th passive then sure.
: looks cool I hope Sona gets something similar in the future
Sona's effects are up to date though.
: Are we supposed to know what the future Worlds missions we will be attempting?
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/special-event/learn-more-worlds-season-2018-event Click "What are the missions?" under FAQ.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YTwOVAyt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-04T01:27:30.371+0000) > > What buffs are you referring to? Meddler made a post earlier this week talking about Zed buff because of his winrate in high elo.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=38E5AMu9,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-29T15:08:49.678+0000) > * Mid lane - While it would be cool to see Zed we don't have the room to buff him in regular play.
Kaßloom (EUNE)
: After a while,will you make a VU/VGU for every champion?
Well by the time all of the champs that are currently outdated got updated, other champs that are currently not viewed as outdated would take their places.
Moody P (NA)
: Faithful reworks are the best reworks
Sometimes it feels like a coinflip which champion gets to maintain their old playstyle. As much as I loved old Aatrox, I admit that he had to go. However the rework was handled quite poorly. I find it hard to believe that it was impossible for him to keep his old AA heavy playstyle. Especially considering they managed to preserve it in Irelia, who used to be considered one of the most stat-checky champs of all time.
: No. Riot should not do shit like that period. Crimson akali was one of my favorite skins and now it doesn't even exist. If your gonna remake the skin, fine.It doesn't need to be deleted.
Unmasked Kayle is pretty pointless tho, considering she doesn't wear a helmet in most of her other skins. They could totally change it into something else and I wouldn't mind.
: There's Kayle and Morgana after Ez https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule#h2 Then, other than Jax, Blitz and Kennen, here are a few champions getting old, in order IMO: {{champion:35}} #1 to me. His kit is retarded, really need a rework. {{champion:32}} #2 passive, W and E are a bit boring. Q and R are nice and core identity of the champion {{champion:75}} #3 {{champion:45}} #4
This post is talking about champs who need mostly visual changes with minor gameplay changes. Nasus needs a gameplay update, as he already got a visual update. Shaco and Amumu need VGUs. Think Veigar could get a visual update with minor gameplay changes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot jinxylord,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dyYHts0y,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-08-18T02:51:50.622+0000) > > Gonna be a ton of work for sure, especially with the changes we have planned for Kayle :3 > > Our art/production team is amazing though, so I'm pretty confident they'll be able to do all the skins justice, it's just going to take a while (which is why Kayle and Morg are still a long way off). Can you tell us anything about Kayles kit? It was mentioned in roadmap that yall wanted to keep her mix of melee/ranged gameplay. Is that going to be expanded upon with a new ult? One like Nidalee, elise, and karma, that starts at 1 rank at level 1? For switching between ranged and melee? With her spells having different effects in both modes?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jihad Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8J2dEqJp,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-07-24T03:59:07.540+0000) > > Yeah it's a shame that the boards has its fair share of immature members that like to personally attack rioters that attempt to communicate. > > I'm honestly not all that shocked that rioters rarely show up here considering Maple instantly got attacked by multiple different people the other day. thats a dogshit excuse to not communicate, just because some strangers are hurting your feelings? i dont undertand, u realize the rioters are probably 25+ years old, not communicating completely just because you got ur feelings hurt is just childish.
Yeah but it's not all that constructive. They will come here, say stuff that the boards don't want to hear, and thusly get attacked.
: There was this Rioter, Maple Nectar I think, that spoke to us recently. Hopefully, the rest of Riot will follow suit and we can actually have human conversations. That, or some shitlord on the boards will scare them away again.
Yeah it's a shame that the boards has its fair share of immature members that like to personally attack rioters that attempt to communicate. I'm honestly not all that shocked that rioters rarely show up here considering Maple instantly got attacked by multiple different people the other day.
Nishant (NA)
: Akali looks broken and all, but why the fuck is the [Press Shift] thing back?
: Imagine if your champ wasn't allowed to be fun until the game is pretty much already over
Jbels (NA)
: How is Banner of Command being removed from the game before Ohmwrecker?
Because Ohmwrecker's name is from refer a friend, therefore it can't be removed, they would just heavily rework it instead. Banner of Command isn't like this so they can remove it as they please.
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qLWAMflf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-30T18:44:44.722+0000) > > While Udyr doesn't have a dash, I'd hardly call him immobile, given that his passive means that *every* ability of his is "run fast". And Zilean is also hardly immobile, as well, given that he has a **99% speed boost** as a basic ability. Kayle also compensates for her low mobility by being a hypercarry while also a decent lanebully (Then again, that's only because she has a decent range against toplaners), and having a MS boost on her W that actually hits *really* good numbers late-game. > > And, yes, Cho'gath is *still* ridiculously easy to play, because he's still a braindead champion. Same for Mundo. Their immobility is honestly fairly irrelevant. > > And immobile champs tend to simply have better stats. Their *base* MS is usually far higher (Except for Ashe and Mordekaiser, but Ashe is an anti-mobility champion with her slow, and Morde's low base MS is one of his **only** weaknesses), and they usually also have higher defensive stats (or are more deadly when finally in range) than mobile ones. Kayle used to be a lane bully, imagine what would happen to her now if Irelia Q-ed on her. She is actually extremely bad in lane unless vs tanks with literally no damage. Hell her late game isn't even that good any more with AP items getting gutted left and right. She is truly a definition of a trash pick and I haven't seen her in 3 years or more in all my games, except for when I played her myself like 3 times.
Just wanted to say, while yes Kayle's laning is quite poor (unless vs an immobile melee), her late game is still as busted as ever. The rageblade changes make her a monster late.
I have this as well, it appears relogging grants you the XP, therefore it is likely just a visual bug.
: Until I can get some light shone on the hate of my people I cannot possible support this pandering icon. I will NOT be wasting my precious blue essence on rainbow pandering poros. Instead I'll simply boycott the silly little icon and gladly not have it clutter my avatar folder. Nice virtue signaling though. You earn +20 points for that.
It costs 1 BE, it's not really "wasting". However I agree on the sentiment.
: Jungle is Worse than Ever
As a laner, the less relevant the jungler is the more I enjoy playing the game.
: I actually miss the old Warwick sometimes lol
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xL6mEm9M,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-26T21:50:21.472+0000) > > The thing was: It was strong on about 3-4 champions. > > Now it's actually viable as an option on a lot of champions, without being *too* much stronger on the few that used it. Nothing wrong with having niche items in a game. I get that but it's still stronger and scales way better maybe not "too" much stronger if you get it as your first/ second item but full build where 24% could be over 100 extra ad compared to the 25 or so whatever it was is a pretty big difference. Same with the ap.
C'mon man, the item is actually viable now. As opposed to before where literally only {{champion:96}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:110}} and sometimes {{champion:11}} bought it. Not to mention you can buy it on melees and not be trolling
Ataraxas (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=yWEr6aRN,comment-id=007c000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-22T21:31:29.892+0000) > > Ok, gave that thread a look. Gotta be honest, it's enormous and so would take a huge amount of time to respond to appropriately. I'm certainly down to chat about Talon, but would help a lot if you could summarize say a couple of your key concerns and a couple of concise suggestions. I'll then share some thoughts on those (and/or tag someone else in who's more familiar with Talon details if needs be). @Meddler Welcome back mate! I wanted to ask you two things: What happened to the bounty gold changes scheduled for 8.8? Delayed? Canceled? Went through without being mentioned? Seeing as assassins have been reverted recently, *_can we please please get a Talon revert as well?_* I know some say Talon is one of the more "successful" assassin reworks, but it's not fair for us Talon mains to be stuck with the reworked Talon (while all the other assassins get their old kit back) only because the Talon rework was not as bad as the other ones. I used to play Talon all the time before his rework, but after the rework I had to drop him. I'd really appreciate it if I could have one of my mains back so I really hope you at least consider this. Thanks. :)
Hey about the bounty gold changes, Repertoir provided an answer in [this reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/8dussf/what_happened_to_the_bounty_gold_change/dxqjybb/?context=0).
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