: What do you guys miss most from league?
I miss looking forward to new champion releases. I remember when Shyvana came out (I loved dragons a a teenager) and I was so hyped. Now every new champ is some overloaded, poorly designed mess, with no definite weaknesses that has to introduce some new mechanic. They are absurdly strong or gutted into obvlivon due to pro play. {{champion:555}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:266}}. Every new champ feels like just another ban to add to a long list of unhealthy or annoying champs.
: Senna's kit is revealed. Doesn't power creep worry you too?
Its concerning to me that the newest 3 (hybrid) champions {{champion:145}} {{champion:555}} and Senna seem to be given everything with no glaring weaknesses. Im not opposed to champs getting abilities that you normally wouldn't see on others in their class, but they need to give up something to get it. Pyke was pitched as an "assassin support". So why does he have several forms of hard cc? An aoe stun and hook are abilities you would want to see on a tanky support or tank. He is also given high sustain which is something other healthier mobile assassins lets say, Talon, are not. {{champion:145}} has an invisible ms buff. This isnt a problem on its own but when you give her a giant dash with a scaling shield that scales with her dmg it becomes problematic imo. A shielded dash is something that belongs on a bruiser or tank and really takes away the weakness of being fragile and in need of protection (as ADCS should) Senna appears to have high damage, range, sustain, a sheild, an aoe stealth mechanic and a root. I realize that this is only on paper, but doesn't that seem like way too many differing strengths to have on the same champion? If we view her as an enchanter adc and compare her to others in those those classes, its clear she has many of their best traits and looks overloaded in comparison. {{champion:16}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:37}} sacrifice having damage and elusiveness for their healing ability. {{champion:22}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:222}} have high dmg and range, while being fragile, generally immobile and without healing. The root, self-heal and stealth serve to minimize two of the biggest weaknesses of the adc and enchanter classes, being their squishyness and general lack of mobility. Also I get that a characters' weapons/powers being cohesive with their actual gameplay style and abilities isn't a big deal, but does anyone else find it strange that a character using a GIANT RAILGUN, is healing, shielding, rooting, and stealthing people?
: Worst patch ever?
Riot on the Veigar cage buff: "Despite Veigar's scaling nature, his contributions to teamfights struggle to keep pace with what's necessary in the late game, so we're buffing the ability that helps out the most in those situations." I guess losing 75-100% hp to his QW as a tank with a completed full tank build (including at least 2 MR items) isn't contributing enough. Its like they're not even playing the same game as us and we're not supposed to notice.
: Anyone else feel like the anniversary is going to make or break league for the next ten years?
The year is 2030. SKT has just won their 9th world championship. The highlight was SKT's full tank top laner's massive engage. "He was able to tank an entire 3 auto attacks! We have never seen someone in professional play live this long in the last 10 years." the casters exclaim. This bought SKT the 0.15 seconds needed to oneshot the enemy team. They didn't even have to use any ultimates or summoners. Games now last around 10 minutes. Every champion has multiple dashes, penetration, true dmg, a 3 hit passive, sustain, and % max hp dmg. Minions die instantly from any dmg source. Towers have a maximum of 10 shots, which do 50% max hp true dmg. Tower plates have been increased to 15, and each attack on a tower removes one. Riven has still not been nerfed. Kaisa has received her 3rd skin this month, for a total of 56. The gray screen has become so common that riot has released chromas for it, including the Star Guardian Prestige Edition Death Screen for $100. Eternals now shows the accumulated number of missed skillshots, chat restrictions, 14-day suspensions, and times "plz ff" was typed in chat. Little legends eggs have a % chance to become "scrambled", resulting in no Little Legend, but instead a consumable breakfast item that heals 5% max hp on Summoners Rift (Not usable on Azir, Anivia, Swain and Quinn)
Comentários de Rioters
Cräfty (EUW)
: Riot's narcissism is so cringy... urgh!
Just another example of them insisting "You think you want it, but you don't" even when the customer base screams otherwise.
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FbKY00Gs,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T06:38:03.922+0000) > > Even so, that's still not very much damage. > > Like if she's not landing a single Q she's not going to do much damage. W is trivial, and R2 does execute scaling. If her only damage before R is W and an auto, it's going to do jack shit. Riven mains arguing that a 53% winrate champ, 55% masters+ with over 10% pickrate is balanced, is the richest shit you guys will ever find in the league community. Oh yeah and then they argue that their champ is hard to play xd
> [{quoted}](name=GodlyBane,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FbKY00Gs,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-03T22:17:50.729+0000) > > Riven mains arguing that a 53% winrate champ, 55% masters+ with over 10% pickrate is balanced, is the richest shit you guys will ever find in the league community. Oh yeah and then they argue that their champ is hard to play xd Biased Riven mains be like: "Riven isn't op, the entire LoL community, including master and challenger players just haven't known how to fight her for the last couple years. In fact, If you miss all 3 of your Qs, Darius can win trades lvl 1. Also, I lost lane once when I was lagging and got camped so she can be beaten, you just have to be good enough." How are you supposed to have an intelligent discussion with that level of bias?
ZER0 2 (NA)
: Riot has lowered the standards for Legendary Skins.
Maybe they would have more of a budget if they didn't pay their employees to play LoL and competitors' games for fun.
enshine (NA)
: any league quotes you unironically use in life?
{{champion:78}} *On a daily basis* "I could really go for a nap." *When I'm driving and have to wait for pedestrians walking as slow as humanly possible* "Could you maybe get out of the way? Y'know, so I don't have to flatten you."
: "We won't make video about rework champion " What you mean is we YOU are too lazy to actually work.
Here is the video detailing the behaviors and coach that the OP references. The part where its explained that Riot employees get paid to play competitors' games (not for research, for FUN) just floored me. This company is a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMI1gSTvzgE&t=142s
Rockman (NA)
: I wonder if they'd charge us for a working client
Just wait until they charge us for looking at our profile, match history, mastery points, and changing summoner icons.
: We made Eternals system instead of...
Balancing the game, fixing matchmaking, and looking at ranked progression MMR are pretty crucial to enjoying the game. Sadly, these things don't make Riot any money; they would be investing additional time and people into these projects without any way to "sell" the end result. Its the same reason they haven't fixed the garbage client for years. As long as people aren't leaving in massive droves or refusing to buy RP in a way that hits them hard financially, they couldn't care less, which is extremely frustrating.
: "Eternals" a new dirty way to win money.
The game is turning into lEAgue of Legends very quickly.
: Yay Riven Q cooldown buff revert....
The sad thing is, once you factor in that she rushes 40%/ 45% cdr every game and do the math, this nerf is even less impactful than it looks on paper. > Broken Wings (Q) cooldown changed from 12/11.5/11/10.5/10 to 12 at all ranks. 10s with 40% cdr = 6 second cd 12s with 40% cdr = 7.2 second cd 10s with 45% cdr = 5.5 second cd 12s with 45% cdr = 6.6 second cd What this means is that at max rank (the nerf's most impactful state) she loses basically ONE SECOND of Q uptime. This change is a joke.
: Kaisa hasn't gotten a sking in 38 days why are you ignoring her?
Meanwhile, Kindred, who is probably one of the best characters in terms of quotes, personality, and gameplay that fits her theme, has received 1 skin since her release in 2015.
: Twisted Treeline is a story of neglect
I have been playing since season 1. I have over 3000 games on TT and played it almost exclusively during season 8. I haven't played TT in the last 6 months or so, as I have been with a larger friend group, but am devastated to see the mode go. I have loved the game over the years and watched it grow worse and worse despite its incredible potential and passionately loyal fanbase who love the game and try to stick with it despite all their frustration. Riot has stated the following as their rationale for removing TT: > Outside of the player population, Twisted Treeline’s art, map design, and even game pacing don’t meet today’s current quality bar and player needs. We debated on whether an ARAM-esque level of support would bring it up to standard, but the lack of growth from the previous efforts we mentioned led us to the conclusion that it just wouldn’t be enough to make Treeline a healthy long-term mode. So at the end of this season, we will be retiring Twisted Treeline. Like Dominion before it, we’re sad to see a longtime part of the game disappear. But we feel this is the best decision for League, as it lets us keep our focus on our larger game modes. Since Riot clearly knows best, even when their fanbase screams otherwise, I have decided to apply their words to my own experiences. "Outside of the skins, LoL's dmg, favoritism, overloaded champions, and general game direction don't meet my current quality bar and player needs. I debated on whether outrage over seasons of patches would bring it up to standard, but the lack of growth from the previous efforts I mentioned led me to the conclusion that it just wouldn’t be enough to make LoL a healthy long-term game. So at the end of this season, I will be retiring League of Legends. Like Runescape before it, I'm sad to see a longtime part of my life and game disappear. But I feel this is the best decision for me, as it lets me keep my focus on better game developers."
: "So we can focus on our larger game modes"
Their thought process is insane. Imagine applying it to your own life. Its like if I didn't clean my house for years, letting it become disgusting and uninhabitable, and then acting surprised when no one wanted to visit. And rather than clean my house, even though it wasn't the greatest, bulldoze it and buy an new one entirely.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qYcmzkom,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T22:37:14.131+0000) > > Looks at EA, Activision, Blizzard, Take Two, Ubisoft, Warner Brothers, and Bethesda. > > Ok. came here to say exactly this Riot is very far from the worst and least connected. Don't you have phones? :^)
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qYcmzkom,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-31T22:56:02.125+0000) > > came here to say exactly this > Riot is very far from the worst and least connected. > > Don't you have phones? :^) There are other companies that are far worse than Riot, but doesn't change the fact that Riots actions are infuriating and out of touch. Thats like saying that your negative actions are OK despite how many people you upset because you're not Hitler
Comentários de Rioters
: Why is "fun had" not part of balancing the game?
Stats are definitely important. Quantitative information is necessary for balancing a game, especially for one as complex as LoL. But Riot seems to forget that for the gamer, the primary objective is to have FUN. Aside from good friends and champions whose stories/personalites/abilities we enjoy, improving our skills and outplaying our opponents is how we have fun. In order for this to work, we have to feel like our decisions and skill matters. I think the reason champs like {{champion:142}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:67}} and pre shroud nerf {{champion:84}} are so universally hated is because they lack (or feel like they lack) counterplay. When LB pops you in 1 second then disappears, Yasuo dashes 6 times in 2 seconds and Vayne's % max hp true dmg is impossible to itemize against, it feels helpless. These mechanics feel infuriating even if you are highly skilled and comfortable on your own champion. Even if these champions were nerfed to 50% winrate, I doubt many players would consider these mechanics fun to play against. I've been playing alot of {{champion:20}} lately and I think he is an example of amazing champion design. Whenever I fight against him, I feel that everything he does is not overbearingly oppressive and has counterplay to it, despite him being considered an S-Tier pick right now. Q --> Healing cut/ range W --> Dodging/ Hard CC/ Creating or standing behind terrain E ---> Range/ requires skillshot with minimal damage to be landed first R ---> Interruptable by hard CC When I don't dodge and get hit by a massive snowball I feel like I deserve it. On the other hand, interrupting his ult to save your team feels great. Steering his giant snowball through tricky paths can have skill expression at times, without being an overloaded or complex ability I don't understand the growing trend of deluded game companies arguing with consumers, trying to tell the consumer what they really want. No, Riot should not cave to everything we say. The number of times Riot and other game companies continue to not only ignore avid fans, but to view obvious majority discontent as inconsequential. You would think that by maximizing "fun" Riot would retain loyal fans that continue to spend money on their game instead of competitors.
: Jhin is ACTUALLY Running Riot Games
Riot has 4 letters. Coincidence? I think not.
: When you see a 5-man gank coming, and you know you don't have time to recall
{{champion:429}} : "Pull the laner, Blitzcronk!" {{champion:53}} : * pulls {{champion:3}}* {{champion:429}} : "WRONG LANEEEERRRRRRR!"
: Who do you even play against Darius/Poppy ?
Darius is definitely frustrating for obvious reasons and Poppy is strong but I wouldn't call her OP. She has a 48% win rate despite being a simple champion. Perhaps one of the reasons she seems so powerful is that damage is so high right now and she is one of the few champions that can tank a lot of damage (as tanks should). Courage of the colossus is another reason, and it is getting heavily nerfed shortly, which should make fighting Poppy easier and hopefully shift the toplane meta (yay!). I main Poppy (almost 200k mastery) and I have found the following matchups to be quite difficult. Melee counterpicks are strong 1v1 champs with sustain such as {{champion:122}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:48}} Ranged Champions who can kite her very easily include {{champion:10}} {{champion:133}} and perhaps {{champion:126}}. Although I have only seen it rarely, I'm sure Vayne top would also work fantastically. If you know what you are doing {{champion:114}} and {{champion:41}} are good options. Fiora can riposte her stun and if you hit many vitals, does not matter how tanky Poppy builds. Fiora becomes more of a threat the longer the game goes on so even if Poppy beats you in lane Fiora will eventually reach the point where she can 1v1 anyone. Poppy has practically no kill pressure on Gangplank. He can zone her with barrels and instantly remove her wall stun with oranges. This, combined with his passive movement speed means that she can basically never catch him out and he can continue to poke with barrels and Q. Even if she ults you away to save herself, Gangplank ult can finish her off. Hope this helps! Let me know what you think!
: Patch Chat with the Playtest Team - 7.1 Jungle Nerfs
Though I agree that Poppy was definitely in need of nerfs and the ultimate change was a great way to accomplish this do you have any concerns that the new shield duration is too short or should have been nerfed in an alternate way? I recognize that five seconds is likely one of the longer shields in the game but she cannot activate her shield at will like practically every other champion that has a shield. With the new duration, by the time Poppy picks it up and moves back into melee range the shield will have practically expired. Wouldn't it have been more reasonable to nerf her incredibly high damage for a tank such as her Q?
: 4 Is wrong. It should be Team Liquid
{{champion:202}} 4 is never wrong
: "You're gonna live...
"People die when they are killed"
: Election Day
Make Summoners' Rift Great Again!
: Favorite quote of your main
{{champion:78}} "I just had a thought...THREE pigtails!"
: A Tribute to Our Hero
{{champion:78}} I can't find him
: In honor of the debate yesterday...
President: {{champion:1}} Vice-President: Tibbers --- {{champion:268}} : "President Hastur is completely inexperienced and is one of the worst presidents we have ever seen." {{champion:1}} : "You can't come to Tibbers's filibuster!" ---- Aide: "Miss President, have you seen the latest report?" {{champion:1}} : "Have you seen my bear Tibbers?" --- *Is driven around for various functions* {{champion:1}} : "Are we there yet?"
awdaf (NA)
: Is Annie going to get toned down anytime soon?
> The only weakness she has is that she is immobile, Wrong. One of her biggest weaknesses is that she has short range. There are plenty of mid lane mages that (when played correctly) can poke her to death without Annie laying a finger on them. Play {{champion:134}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:25}}{{champion:7}} and make her life hell. Others have means of living through her burst and dealing good damage in return. {{champion:43}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:26}}. > but honestly, that's an advantage for her since she needs to be in range to deal damage. How is immobility an advantage? It makes her prone to ganks and easier to land skillshots on. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if she had some sort of built-in mobility? > she will out damage you and out CC you no matter what. Pure hyperbole. Syndra, Leblanc, Morgana, and Zilean are her biggest counters. Yes, she is a strong mid-laner. She has reliable cc and damage and is powerful in team fights. Tibbers can do a lot of work even on his own. But please stop acting as if she has no weaknesses and automatically beats any other midlane champ.
Statikk (NA)
: Assassins Pre-Season Class Update - Systems Tweaks and Smaller Scale Updates
If pink wards will no longer reveal invisibility, will Arcane sweeper on Twisted Treeline be going this same direction as well?
: Describe yourself in 3 champions
{{champion:1}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:18}}
Drugoth (NA)
: You're being toxic during a game of League, how would your main react?
{{champion:1}} I wouldn't get to go to Tibbers's tea party and might die a fiery death.
: Pls stop complaining about the Star Guardians skins
If the complaints are in regard to which champions received them, the Poppy skin was perfectly justified. Her current newest skin (Scarlet Hammer) was released on February 1, 2012. She has needed a new skin for a long time.
: Who's hotter :^)
{{champion:1}} and {{champion:63}} are definitely the hottest. I mean think of how warm they would have to be from all that fire.
Drugoth (NA)
: Your main is disappointed in you over something, what is it?
{{champion:78}} She is disappointed because I am not the hero.
: You Are Walking Your Main Home...
{{champion:1}} Have you sheen muh bear Tibbersh? You wanna drink too? It'll be fun! You can't come to Tibbersh bar party! Nyeh!
: Petition for the word art to be changed to aart
{{champion:119}} Its not art its aaaaaaaaaaaaaart.
WarWork (NA)
: Lol @ probably and compensate, I the riot favoritism too strong. When poppy was strong they gutted her. Similarly for the bear
I wouldn't call it favoritism for certain, though it could be. I think the issue facing Ekko is different than the one facing Poppy and Voli, which is more easily resolved. Poppy's power was a result of overtuned numbers (E and Passive range, Q damage) whereas Ekko's main issue is the tank build that results from the way his kit functions.
: Why does he need compensation, though?
Riot's goal is to reduce the power of Tank Ekko (who is insane) without gutting AP Ekko, who they have stated is healthier by comparison.
: So My Friend Was In A Bible Study And It Was About A Fish Who Ate Jonah
: We need a Harambe skin for Nunu
That skin would be great...until Caitlyn ults him
: When did being friendly and positive become a bad thing?
When some encounter nice people it makes them angry because it shows how horrible they are by comparison (what they are lacking), though they would never admit it. I have seen people do this in real life numerous times. Thank you for being a positive member of the community.
: {{champion:78}} This 1 will be fun <3 Hope it's not dented in my ass. Got it in my ass. Comin' down in my ass. Not so fast in my ass. Move it in my ass. Hold it right there in my ass. Don't move in my ass. Look at him go in my ass. Up goes the guy in my ass. Huh. Didn't know I could do that in my ass. Whoa. You went far in my ass. Goes great with a hammer in my ass. Yay, more stuff in my ass. You smash people with it in my ass, right? It's a little big in my ass, but I'll grow into it. Just in case they come creeping in my ass. Not today in my ass. One thing about me: I'm not good at staying down in my ass. Let's try that again in my ass. Keep fighting in my ass. One time I thought I found the hero... but he died in my ass. Hmm... if I were a hero, where would I hide...in my ass? I'm no hero - just a Yordle with a hammer in my ass. You should probably take cover in my ass. Keep swinging til' you hit something in my ass. Wow. That's a lot to hammer in my ass. Wow. That's a lot to hammer in my ass. What do you mean my hammer's too big in my ass? If you're waiting for me to give up, you might be here a while in my ass. Some things in my ass are too important to give up on. Who knew there were so many heroes in my ass? The hammer does most of the work, I just swing it in my ass. I hope the hero likes me in my ass. Know what I could use? A cart in my ass. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, uh... hammer in my ass! Garen, I think you might be the one in my ass. Lastly, I ignored the rules a bit for this one: "A Demacian, a Noxian and a Freljordian walk into my ass." seems like {{champion:78}} 's trunk is loose af.
As a Poppy main I found this hilarious
: Pick any quotes and then add "in my ass"
{{champion:131}} They called me a heretic, now they are in my ass. {{champion:58}} Light meat, dark meat its all the same in my ass. {{champion:245}} Time to start some trouble in my ass. {{champion:1}} You wanna play too, it'll be fun in my ass. (I'm sorry).
: Honestly I forget that I am not playing a Yeti named Nunu.
I forget that the child even exists.
: I'm Red Side Shopkeeper...
{{champion:245}} : I'm looking to sell my boots and get a Ludens. How much can I get for them? Shopkeeper: I don't know much about boots but I have a buddy who is an expert on boots. Let me give him a call. *Blue side shopkeeper begins walking toward them*
: Remove 1 letter from a champions ability. What does it do now?
{{champion:254}} Last Shield - Vi gains the last shield. Period. {{champion:62}} Stone Sin - Wukong summons a stone idol and begins worshipping. Nearby enemies become enraged and are taunted into attacking him. {{champion:15}} On the Hut - Sivir climbs atop the nearest Pizza Hut, granting her team increased vision. {{champion:5}} Crescent Weep - Xin cries in a circle around him, reducing the defenses of nearby enemies. {{champion:12}} Trumphant Roar - Alistar roars at the losers and stupid feeders on both teams, taunting enemies and fearing allies. This ability is going to be HUGE. Its a great ability, folks. Its very great. Many people are saying its great. Believe me.
: I think Annie has been around Garen to much lately.
{{champion:1}} Have you seen my gwoup Demacia? You can't come to Demacia's tea party! JUSTICE! DEMACIWA!
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