Ahris (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eLBGKN3c,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2019-09-03T11:13:46.697+0000) > > First, No he did not oneshoot you under tower, go check what oneshoot means. > > Secondly, I didnt think i'd have to explain to a master player what grievious wounds items are for. If Vlad relied heavily on sustain to actually stay alive in order to constantly proc his Q in a teamfight, i woulda agreed, but if his burst can 100-0 any squishy while being tanky, really fast, then that is a problem.
Vladimirs burst is not 100-0ing anybody unless extremely fed. At most in lane you can 50-0 someone at level 6. Good luck doing that in mid where mages outrange you. Good luck doing that in top when getting close to your insanely powerful juggernaut friends means you are going to be run down. Vladimir could possibly be the most jg dependent champ in the game.
: Save Twisted Treeline
Still hard to believe that a game that isn't even league is replacing it. I loved 3s because you could actually play the game without blowing up in 1 second. I honestly bet some guy with influence at riot got stomped by a poppy and was like "YEP WE ARE REMOVING IT". haha. I did see an influx of rioters playing it right before they announced it's end.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:15:52.928+0000) > > That actually makes no sense what you are saying. > > If a new account plays ranked for the first time it will be in a high silver low gold game, this is not rocket science this is a a fact. > > It would take losing 10+ games to get into bronze, and by that time you can automatically assume that it is not a smurf, it is a bad player. > > Also nobody is intentionally going to put themselves through terrible games getting constantly flamed all game long just to feed their ego in a low bronze game once they finally get there after losing 10+. It does not happen. so they start a new account to get into high elo again? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} they smurf to stay in bronze and silver to actually play the game, and getting into bronze isn't hard, with all the inters, especially in promos, riot just needs to fix high elo, and stop keeping players as much as possible in bronze and silver, riot is using inters to keep you playing as much as possible, they know high elo is a mess atm, they don't want more challengers either, if everyone becomes an challenger it will lose its edge, it no longer would be special.
?????? I have had tons of smurfs, I have never been below gold. Your delusion of players purposefully running it down mid to get to bronze is a fantasy.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=00000002000100010000,timestamp=2019-08-24T23:10:32.912+0000) > > https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xxx+stc > > First 2 ranked games ever played. Gold 4. > > You show me proof of an account starting in bronze, I will be waiting a long time lol. are u a smurf fanboy or something i dont get it lol its been an on going problem for a long time in not just league but a lot of multiplayer games.high elo try hard trolling low elo.why would they go to plat where them being a smurf doesnt really mean much?
Smurfs are an ongoing problem. However they are not in bronze and iron keeping you from climbing, sorry bro.
: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=bronzeadclife here you go i can show you my chicks acct as well i got placed with her same placements we were put in b3 or 4 our first game then after that we pretty much lost everything kept putting us vs golds even though we were placed in bronze.
"Kept putting us vs golds" Hmm....interesting...
: umm that is not true i just made a new acct not too long ago it starts at bronze4 or 3 if i am not mistaken to fall under bronze is the problem i have like a 10% wr atm in bronze and i cant fall below bronze 2 lol lose 7 lp per lossgain 30 for a win.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xxx+stc First 2 ranked games ever played. Gold 4. You show me proof of an account starting in bronze, I will be waiting a long time lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:03:18.130+0000) > > You can say it all day long but proof is another thing. certian challenger streamer that mains kayne.hmm wonder who it could be? no reason to make things up about it.but believe that smurfs are all in plat if u wish i cant stop ya.but yea everytime i watch this dudes stream thats all he ever does is smurf in low elo cause he gets destroyed in challenger
Dude, find the video, link me and tell me where I can find a name. Until then high elo streamers do not use accounts in silver, the gameplay is not interesting to watch.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:25:30.557+0000) > > The high elo smurfs the streamers use are literally all in plat+. > > You can not find me one streamer that is actually using a bronze or iron account. oh really? just watched a challenger streamer last night playing on a silver smurf
You can say it all day long but proof is another thing.
Sukishoo (NA)
: I started a new account and was placed iron after one match. So you keep living in a fantasy
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xxx+stc First 2 ranked games EVER PLAYED. Gold 4. I showed you my proof, now you show me yours.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:46:00.606+0000) > > So are we just going to ignore the fact that you believe there are players tanking to smurf level status in every game? > > Seriously think about the delusion of players purposefully playing bad to lose for one second, it doesn't happen. It's about a relaxing game, having fun, farming JG or whatever, chilling. Stomping anyone that talks crap to you, then winning other games by just stomping while chilling. It's really freaking common my dude. Even gold players smurf in the depths.
Getting constantly flamed and pinged by teammates is not relaxing. AFKing jg creeps is not relaxing. Also you are really steering far from the point of their being smurfs rampant in every game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-24T18:51:09.237+0000) > > Smurfs don't exist in Bronze. > > It's mainly Gold and Platinum that's infested with Smurfs. They're in all ranks, they tank to wherever they want then artificially 50% win rate with stomp/trolling.
So are we just going to ignore the fact that you believe there are players tanking to smurf level status in every game? Seriously think about the delusion of players purposefully playing bad to lose for one second, it doesn't happen.
: Read the message dumbass, im supporting your argument headass
Sukishoo (NA)
: No, 100% fresh accounts are placed in Iron. Riot said that at the start of the season when introducing the new ranks.
Riot can say whatever they want lmfao. A new account starts silver 1 gold 4.
: i feel its really bad in silver and gold especially.all these hi elo players that stream....what do you think they are doing? they always on smurfs.go see for yourself nobody actually plays in the elo they are supposed to be in.they just churn out these smurf accounts for luls and views.
The high elo smurfs the streamers use are literally all in plat+. You can not find me one streamer that is actually using a bronze or iron account.
Antenora (EUW)
: Smurfs don't exist in Bronze. It's mainly Gold and Platinum that's infested with Smurfs.
Smurfs in bronze....lmfao. Smashing bronzies would get old after 3 games, there would be no point.
: ***
No. All accounts are placed into silver 1/gold 4 upon their very first ranked game. If you actually tested this you would know it is true.
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:27:46.401+0000) > > Sorry to break the news to you man but you are in bronze, where smurfs are basically non existent. > > A new smurf account would have to tank many many losses on his account to get to your level, it just does not happen. > > Good luck improving. So where are the smurfs? In Plat? Bro do you even know what a smurf is? Most smurfs troll to demote to Iron/Bronze and play there.
The smurfs are in gold+, because that is where you initially start when playing ranked. Your account gets to diamond, you realize how shitty the gameplay is, you make a new account and the process repeats. Nobody has fun tanking their rank down to bronze just to then decide to start playing serious, it does not happen.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ec5ttuvA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:27:46.401+0000) > > Sorry to break the news to you man but you are in bronze, where smurfs are basically non existent. > > A new smurf account would have to tank many many losses on his account to get to your level, it just does not happen. > > Good luck improving. not true, most smurfs get into bronze/silver because there are the most players, riot needs to fix higher elo, all they do is winswap, which is another reason why they go to bronze/silver, to actually play the game.
That actually makes no sense what you are saying. If a new account plays ranked for the first time it will be in a high silver low gold game, this is not rocket science this is a a fact. It would take losing 10+ games to get into bronze, and by that time you can automatically assume that it is not a smurf, it is a bad player. Also nobody is intentionally going to put themselves through terrible games getting constantly flamed all game long just to feed their ego in a low bronze game once they finally get there after losing 10+. It does not happen.
: League is still fun to play
So all you played is ARAM? For how that mode is designed you either love it or you hate it, and it will always be that way. ARAM is not league.
: Something needs to honestly be done about smurfs
Sorry to break the news to you man but you are in bronze, where smurfs are basically non existent. A new smurf account would have to tank many many losses on his account to get to your level, it just does not happen. Good luck improving.
: "We won't make video about rework champion " What you mean is we YOU are too lazy to actually work.
Riot has an LGBTQ+ department. Not hating on them or anything, just think that it is extremely pointless IMO and i'm sure they have other pointless ones aswell.
Defendi (NA)
: Aram is not random.....
It is weighted towards the free champ rotation. That's why you think it picks champs you never play/don't own, because in a way it does.
Dealth (NA)
: Playing more doesnt make you win more
Try telling that to LCS teams that practice 8+ hours per day like it's their full time job. If your goal is to to learn from mistakes you will do it, if you are playing on auto pilot of course you won't learn anything.
: MMR Makes no sense.
Nothing to do with winrate. It has everything to do with the AVG MMR of everyone on the team compared to your own personal MMR. The reason you are only gaining 17 is because you are Gold 3 MMR playing in a silver 1 avg MMR game.
: Bronze VS Silver - is there much skill difference?
When you are at your level the difference is huge. If you ever get to plat or higher you will see the difference in skill was actually barely anything.
: Please Riot, these Renek and Kled changes are terrible for toplane. What are u doing?
Kled is the epitome of cancer in top lane. If anything he needs nerfs.
: why does no one talk about how unhealthy vlad is rn
Vlad does good in mid lane because it's hard for mages to poke him out of lane through his sustain. Top lane completely different story. The cancerous bruisers jump on you and your dead, or you pool and they jump on you 10 seconds later and you are dead.
: My problem is I don't see why I should bother learning how to land multiple skillshots for optimal damage and effect when a blockhead like Garen, Darius and Nasus can just walk into a fight and press one button. It was the same problem as {{champion:106}}'s bite a few years ago, its just too easy to do and gives too much reward compared to a champion that requires skilful aiming. They don't take precision or awareness to really play and I just don't see why people need to be rewarded for that. Most tanks/bruisers have some kind of skillshot they need to aim. (Darius's does not count because of how wide it is)
100% agree man. However the circle jerk bruiser mains will forever claim you can and must kite them.
Manxxom (NA)
: Nasus however is VERY difficult to kite because of that slow
Atleast you can counter slows with phase rush. Speed boosts coming at you well thats another story. (looking at you {{champion:86}} )
: Why are the "Dumbass" level champions so rewarding in this game?
: I'd rather go against an S tier champ every game over yasuo once in a while
Let's try to keep in mind yas is being spammed in LCS for the first time that I can remember.
murchalvias (EUNE)
: Gold funneling should be removed from Twisted Treeline
Gold funneling was nerfed on TT alongside the nerf to gold funneling on SR. It was amazing for a couple months until they actually reverted the nerf for no reason at all.
: So I read RiotRepwhatever's explanation of how to determine if a champion is overpowered.
Vladimir is not one shotting unless he is fed. If you fed a vladimir you need to rethink how you fight him, maybe don't take empowered Q's to the face? Even all your ranting aside he still gets pounded by the majority of top laners.
: Is 51% winrate even nerf-worthy? If we rotate through nerfing all of the melee top laners, we'll be in a situation where melee champions have no lane to go to. In the short term, Riven, Jax, and Renekton would just be played more if Aatrox is nerfed. There is a pretty decent top lane meta right now so we should be careful not to destroy it. As an outside observer, I see a pretty diverse top lane roster right now with a good variety of viable champions. I don't think Aatrox is acting as a 'gatekeeper' preventing many other picks, so that's a good thing. Also Aatrox will always have a slightly inflated ban rate simply because he's alphabetically the first champion in the list and obvious to click when people choose a ban at the last second. I guess his ban rate is pretty high... How about a compromise where Aatrox just loses some ult healing to start with and one or two of the more obnoxious top lane influences are removed. For example, Neeko could be kicked out of top lane and shifted to become a healthier playstyle as an AP on-hit marksman bottom laner. Heimerdinger would also be healthier shifted out of top lane and buffed in healthier mid + bot roles. To encourage healthier AP representatives in top lane, Riot can release a melee-only AP brawler with the Mordekaiser rework, and that item could be used by AP melee top laners like Mordekaiser, Cho'gath, Rumble, and maybe top lane brawling tanks like Gragas, Galio, and Zac.
Top laners do have a place, it is called top lane, and it is why no other champions can go to this lane. You are sadly mistaken if you think you can take anybody top lane, because you can't. Super mobile ultra sustain insane tankiness one shot rotations is the only thing that thrives in top lane.
XLVI46 (EUW)
: Darius feels frustrating to play with
Darius job is to snowball the laning phase, which he can do in basically every single matchup, and then take that lead to win the game. Champions like darius are cancer because they breed zero interaction, you cannot beat him so you basically are not playing the game during laning.
Oozıe (NA)
: Nerf Aatrox or Yuumi or both. This shouldn't be in the game.
Aatrox needs to be reverted back before he was reworked. He is broken and the rework was a 100% failure in trying to turn a feast or famine overloaded healing bruiser into a decent champion. There is a reason his ban rate is yasuo/zed meme status atm.
: No what it says is one person can lose you a game, meanwhile one person can't solo carry. Two even ranked players play against each other. One loses hard, and tilts and begins to hard feed. Making it impossible for anyone else who is doing exceptionally well, to carry.
: It's insane to me that Diamond was so much easier to get than climbing out of silver.
Sorry bro but if you lost a silver game that is all on you. There is no way you could not outplay tunnel vision misclicking silvers if you are actually diamond.
Noax457 (NA)
: Aatrox tips and tricks
My tip for you is abuse him before he gets nerfed to the ground for being the most cancerous top laner to exist atm.
: Aatrox has a high Win Rate vs Vladimir and Ryze, but he has a higher Ban Rate than them.
Using lolalytics rankings Aatrox is ranked #1 in top lane. Vladimir is ranked #42 and Ryze is ranked #55. That is out of 64 champions in plat. Ryze is basically ranked one of the worst top laners in the game. The only champions that are ranked lower are tanks.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: I wish promos werent rigged
You can't prove your promos are rigged, but I can easily disprove the reasoning behind why you think they are. I have constant games where there are players on both sides on their promos, your theory is now disproved.
Kurorade (NA)
: I'm going to take a wild guess that you used all of your CC while he was mounted. Or you stayed under turret under 30% HP. Kled is a DIVER champion, he is meant to dive and kill.
I mean I highly doubt "diver champion" literally means tower dive and live while winning a 1v2.
: Sub 50% in every region's plat & below Only region where his WR accross all ranks is higher than 50 is KR btw "Muh no skill champion"
Are you talking about aatrox? If so I regret to inform you he sits at a 52% WR in plat and it only goes up from there with a 54% WR in master. That's with a 35% Ban rate in master aswell.
: everytime i play this game the bs that are bruisers
100% agree. People hating on "ranged top laners". Literally the bruisers are the problem. Their winrates are 2+% higher than their "ranged bullys". {{champion:266}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:86}} (WHO IS SUPPOSEDLY COUNTERED BY RANGE, HAS 2+% WINRATE OVER HIS RANGED MENACES){{champion:122}} {{champion:107}}(assassin bruiser right here) {{champion:75}} {{champion:23}} . These champions get on you, you either burn flash or die, or both. Disgusting.
: For 800 gold you can build Executioner's Calling against Vladimir!
Aatrox smashes vlad extremely hard without GW. I mean really the only thing vlad can do in this matchup is try not to die.(like 90% of his matchups)
: > [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AZFuE57,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-20T03:07:51.472+0000) > > Like, the only characters tanks can't beat **1v1** are bruisers lmfao. > > Hash is probably just mad that he can't 1v2 an enemy bot lane with a 1.2k gold lead, again. so according to you it would be totally fine if tanks can 1v1 everyone in the game? i was under the impressoin they were designed for team fights and be a tank for the team, not to be king of 1v1's.
Tanks have to win early game through their high base dmgs because they get massively outscaled later in the game. If they can't win the 1v1 in the laning phase then it's over, they will get smashed in lane and be way to far behind to tank anything for their team. This is why tanks hate fighting bruisers, they lose the 1v1 and then are worthless the rest of the game.
: Leave Vlad unbanned
Yeah man top taken over by ranged champions you right. {{champion:266}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:107}} (MELEE SO BALANCED){{champion:92}} {{champion:68}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:23}}
: Need to fix 3s match making.
It needs way more than a matchmaking overhaul, it needs it own separate balance or it will always feel bad to play.
Żelk (NA)
: Vlad TBH needs nerfs but if you ever want to counter him I'd suggest kled cause if you hit your Q it goes through his pool and you can rush hexadrinker to reduce his mid game damage. Also if you land your E on vlad you can follow him if he ever trys to run with phase rush. @Riot nerf vlad pls.
Yes let's of course give vlad the nerf hammer and completely ignore champions like kled that run through everyone.
Nairoval (NA)
: Phase Rush Vlad Balance?
Dude what? You have ONE game with a vlad in it that you went up against, you went even. You actually went against a vlad in one game and he got absolutely smashed by your team.
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