The Aatrox video is a bad example because it's literally just "reee old aatrox was better and had zero flaws" for the entire run time. Pretty dumb if you ask me.

how are you going to riot? are you going to make some angry posts on reddit?

bruh i have like 300+ bot game wins with less than 10 losses and I consistently got bots even before the TT removal.

i logged in just to upvote and leave this comment. full agree.

Did they say something like "100 million accounts that play a game every month" or something?

I am not defending riot at all or saying that this is good, but it is possible that riot intended this outcome. One of ryze's problem mechanics in the past was his instant EW 2 second snare, so they may have removed it completely.

this isn't up to NA to decide. This is a chinese market driven choice.

sadly, it's the same way on the forums, but in a different direction. someone leaving their adc to 1v2 and refusing to communicate all game long? not trolling. someone getting >1 death per minute? not trolling, just a bad game. kind annoys the shit out of me tbh.

> [{quoted}](name=musixxal,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e0fQb1pu,comment-id=000200030000,timestamp=2019-08-29T02:25:11.722+0000) > > call someone dumb though, you get a 2 week vacation. i once got a temp ban for telling someone "please read my post before commenting" when they clearly hadn't

> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e0fQb1pu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-28T17:23:32.032+0000) > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} > > They moderated me for saying "git gud" then on another occasion I just posted a sticker and got moderated for that too lol meanwhile people routinely call me r%%%%%ed and get 0 punishment for it

this is exactly the problem. Lanes, especially bot lane, get out of hand so fucking fast that you're already massively behind after one death. A thresh can hook/flay you into an udyr flash/stun and you die. Congrats, now you've lost lane and you'll be playing from behind for the rest of the game with little hope of comeback.

tbh i've played with actual diamonds like this

sounds about right. #gut sylas

no, clearly the best thing for the ADC to do after we have broken their turret is AFK splitpush bot until they're behind from dying repeatedly.

yeah i sacrificed like, 25 skins for 5

I'm the unhinged one, but here you are saying shit like >You saw i didnt agree with your opinion, and you "dont care what i say", you want people to jerk you off and tell you how right you are, thats why every comment here that disagreed with you, was straight away downvoted, you're the reason the boards are shit, people like you who are reactionary, dont take feedback THEMSELVES, and refuse to budge from their opinion no matter what and twist other people's response to fit into your strawman lul okay man. it definitely *was* a waste of my time to respond to you.

gotta love those forums semantics. I guess you guys have nothing better to do in your lives.

you're leading such a noble, honorable fight. I'm honestly super jealous of someone who goes around the internet going "haha, you guys are all so worthless, unlike ME who's COOL"

>That doesn't mean that there 100% definitely is something wrong and that doesn't mean that we're right about what is wrong yes, I agree. That's why I wrote it into my post. Please read it before commenting next time.

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Alright, fine, I'll play you're little game even though it will be a colossal waste of my time. I can tell you've already made up your mind, since you went on a post that essentially says "Stop telling us to stop giving feedback, we deserve to be listened to" and commented "no." I don't have any reason to respond to you. I'm not "proving your point" by refusing to entertain conversation with someone who shoves words into my mouth, refuses to read what I've said, and calls anything that isn't agreement "whining." But I will anyway, because I have nothing else going on in my life and technically I'll reach my daily writing quota of 500 words by arguing with you. --- >Feedback is fine, most feedback here isnt actualy "feedback" as much as rants and whining, people going full conspiracy theorists, or just here with reactionary unhelpfull rant threads. This is wrong on multiple levels. First of all... So? Should we dismiss every single post and comment on an entire forum just because some people go on rants? People who go on rants usually do it for a reason. Is someone ranting about Shaco being OP, when statistically he's not? Are they just some whiny child? Maybe. But maybe it could be that shaco is frustrating game design. Dismissing someone entirely just because it's a "rant" is wrong. It's at least worth considering, for half a second, why they're making the rant post. And, if lots of people are making rant posts about a particular thing, maybe they aren't all salty kids. Maybe something is wrong. In addition, just because it's a rant doesn't mean it's wrong (but that doesn't mean all rants are right). Let's say Riven is 100% OP, Like, 60% winrate, 20% playrate, and 80% banrate OP. If someone makes a rant post about her being OP, are they wrong because it's a rant post? Is Riven not OP just because someone is ranting about it? I mean, sure, a post like "omg riot you keep putting me with feeders" probably doesn't have much value, but that doesn't mean *all* posts should be dismissed. That doesn't mean that every single post on the forums should be blocked and ignored. And it's not just pure-rant posts that are getting these negative, non-helpful comments. Almost every single thread about eternals has at least one guy going "the boards are just a minority," "the boards are just salty whiners," "the boards don't mean anything," etc. Even "high quality" posts that outline specific reasons why people are unhappy with eternals and propose solutions are getting these worthless comments. It is also unreasonable to expect a community composed primarily of younger kids and teens to be able to provide only "well thought out feedback." Of course the forums for a free game populated by a younger demographic will be swimming in entirely helpful feedback. But again, dismissing all of it because of rant posts is WRONG. Now if you were to actually read my post instead of straw-manning me, you would understand this. >If people think that something is wrong, there's a good chance that something could be wrong. That doesn't mean that there 100% definitely is something wrong and that doesn't mean that we're right about what is wrong, though. We are here to provide feedback and, when riot completely ignores said feedback, it is not out of the realm of reason for us to be angry. --- >>In addition, just because the forums is small doesn't mean we should be ignored. The forums aren't a vacuum, we aren't a bunch of die-hard complainers who have no idea how the game works and have no relation to actual players of the game. >**Disagree, people are more inclined to come to the forums to complain,** when someone is enjoying the game they have no reason to come here and create a thread "wow! just had a fun balanced match, thanks for the matchmaking Riot!", no, it's always "Can we talk about how i lost to X last match?" with a thread full of pointless emotional words and the comment section is just shit slinging between OP and people who either agree or disagree with him. I don't even want to reply to this paragraph because it's just "boards sucks, there's nothing positive to gain here." There's no arguing with a line of thinking that is completely wrong, as it is founded outside of reason. I will respond to the bolded part though, because it actually provides something of substance. It takes a galaxy-sized brain to think "are people complaining because something is wrong? No, they're complaining just for the sake of complaining! There is nothing wrong!" No one is arguing that the forums are a perfect cross section of the playerbase. No one is arguing that. We are still average players and we are still playing the same game as everyone else. Just because "the only reason why people come here is to complain" doesn't mean what we say is wrong, shouldn't be listened to, and/or has zero value. --- >It's always amusing tho, threads like "Nice MM Riot, putting me with G3 on my plat promo" then you see the match history and the G3 has 70% WR while OP is at sub 50% WR struggeling to keep his MMR, but of course, the guy making that thread wont admit he's not good enough, he'll die defending how nothing is ever his fault. Okay? And? Those posts almost always die in the new section because people see through them and know that they are complete bullshit. Who is defending these rants? --- >Ahhh, thanks for making my point. Makes a thread to create discussions, first response that is not alligned with your opinion " i literally do not care what you say." then you scream and whine why Riot doesnt take your "feedback" seriously. "this is a place for feedback, if you are going to spend your time telling people to stop leaving feedback, you can leave." "no" "lul okay, i'm not going to argue with you" "THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT" that's essentially the exchange that just happened. >I did read your thread, you're the one who should actual read MY comment, if you didnt take the time to understand what my point is, if you dont care what anyone says, then why create a discussion? you want me to circlejerk with you? You're point is bad. Your point is "what I consider to be real, true feedback is the only feedback that should be listened to. Also, the boards are worthless because they're a minority." --- tHaNkS fOR pRoVInG My PoInT.

neither of you read my post, did you? i literally do not care what you say. the forums are here for feedback, we are giving feedback. I am not sure how that is impossible for you to understand. >It's always amusing tho, threads like "Nice MM Riot, putting me with G3 on my plat promo" then you see the match history and the G3 has 70% WR while OP is at sub 50% WR struggeling to keep his MMR, but of course, the guy making that thread wont admit he's not good enough, he'll die defending how nothing is ever his fault. when posts like "riot, why are you not listening to us about eternals" are getting spammed with "the boards don't know anything, the boards are just a minority" it's a problem. No one is trying to defend idiots who should be using the rant sub-board. Don't comment "but not everything here is feedback" when I've already said that the boards shouldn't be listened to 100% of the time.

> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9yXAPqNz,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T14:42:23.639+0000) > > Cause you have too much thought into it like it's a conspiracy. you act like gaming companies aren't constantly trying to pull the wool over their player base's eyes. It's not outlandish to think "they intentionally inflated the price of Eternals and made them impossible to buy with BE, just so they could make it seem as though they were compromising by giving only a tiny bit of what the player's wanted." Especially since that's a common tactic in bargaining. You go higher/lower than what's reasonable so that, when you move your pricepoint down/up, it seems like you're compromising.

i have an on-running joke that i lose every game of cosmic lulu that I play.

this shouldn't be a point of contention on the forums but for some reason it is. People don't seem to understand that, no matter how many """misplays""" you make, someone shouldn't be able to 100-0 you without towers involved. EDIT: when it's that early in the game.

If people want a hyper-competitive, pro-play focused game, they need to go to DOTA2. Leave LoL for the rest of us simpletons who just want to have fun.

IDK how to tell you this but I can't have a friends list full of people I played with once and I'm never going to play with again :/ When I was actually good at the game and spamming Lulu to gold, I got a friend request probably every other game (not counting the ones I was duo in). It was a fun time.

>git gud, there's nothing wrong with the state of the game and you aren't allowed to complain that's what you said.

I don't play draft or blind to prepare for ranked. I play draft or blind to have fun. Someone afking completely destroys that fun, especially in the current meta, because it makes the game incredibly one-sided. Whoever their opponent was on the map will now be able to steamroll the game, apply pressure all over the map, and CS without contest. You can say "just get over it" all you want but that doesn't take away from the fact that my limited time is being wasted by a pos.

i want to die how i lived lmao

> [{quoted}](name=Rαy,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UtkRdw1A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T01:11:39.569+0000) > > Whoever downvoted this can eat cat poop. it's probably because people don't like the idea of someone begging for money on the internet. I'm indifferent to it, but i can understand where they are coming from .

hard disagree. the only reason why i don't always check the death recap is because I know it's a total waste of time. I am extremely glad they are fixing it, even though it's only because of the money.

Is it not enough that we're all ready 3 levels down on the solo laners?

ngl this sound exactly like the dumb shit i'd do when I finally go

Are people not allowed to ask for skins that are not solely based around profit? Should riot only make skins for the most popular champions, if that's what gets them money? Can people show their support for less-popular champions in hopes that it will result in a skin for them?

It's also there to prevent double gold gen lanes from appearing. e.g. double spellthiefs bot or top

Exactly. Certain game concepts are not worth modernizing. There is no way to modernize old Poppy ult, no way to modernize old Galio ult, modernize yorick's minion spam, etc. "attack speed scaling, sustain based champion" is not only extremely uninteresting, but also very challenging to balance as it lives or dies off the presence of GW.

The old Aatrox was a bland character that people ran with and made more interesting in their own minds. The new Aatrox is hilarious, interesting, and extremely cool.

> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JEgEPZuX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-18T23:37:53.667+0000) > > What? > I don't know of any screen-shaking abilities lol > > I know Urgot's puts chains on your screen but what abilities are you talking about this is **general discussion** as in discussion about anything, no real purpose for the sub-board is intended. I am talking about video games in general, not LoL in particular. Hence why I didn't mention LoL once in my post. I would *strongly* advise reading a post before replying to it.