: why are league players so toxic?
Hey I've also played only two ranked games! I noticed it helps if you let people know right from the champ select that you're new to ranked. Both games people have been... not awful. Not great, for sure, but not flaming me or flipping out. I play support, and my ADC the first game was pretty annoyed at my misplays, but it never got much worse than spam pinging and telling me what to do. Second game we lost, but it was everyone doing poorly and so nobody got upset with me.
: And what should we do when a 5 man-er invaders a cc less team lv 1? Fight? In essence according to your statement, one should always die with their team or it's their fault? Also, you do realize that after Udyr saw Jax see him, he kept going deeper into the jg right?
I think what he's getting at is that Udyr made a legit mistake. Does that mean he's a shit player? Idk, I'm new, not sure what mistakes are indicative of being a shit player and what are understandable misplays. Here's the thing though, regardless of if that makes him a shit player or not, or if it was a risky call or not, you then proceeded to throw the entire rest of the game. That's the problem, and I know you understand that, but if you're wondering why you got banned and he / they didn't, it's because only one of you decided to throw the entire game on purpose because of a bad play that happened in the first minute. Maybe you're like a challenger player and you know for 100% certain that you can't come back from that (idk though, I've seen far crazier comebacks), or maybe you just got tilted and threw the game. Either way, doesn't really matter, the answer to the question is that Riot doesn't ban people for misplays, it bans people for inting.
H00KIE (NA)
: ***
Lol I love when people frame their in-game tantrums as some kind of crusade for justice. "YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME!!!! GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!!" Bruh the reason they don't allow this is that most people, regular people, find this more annoying than someone that sucks at the game.
: Why is toxicity even bannable?
Because it's not fun to play the game with people that throw tantrums when the game isn't going their way.
Manning (NA)
: Banned?
damn dude, I'd say I hope you learn from this but honestly I doubt you will. Life is going to be really tough for you in flyover country if you can't even keep your league account.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Have you had any previous punishments? _ "IZONE Sakura 69: enjoy 14 days ban"_ this is pretty damn funny ngl
I seriously love when the chatlogs show them threatening other people with punishments. It's like schadenfreude squared.
: Is there a way to appeal this 14 days ban?
Lmao did you threaten the other person with a 14 day ban and now you're crying about yours? Bruh, you may not have said any of the forbidden words, but you were still a jerk. This is absolutely deserved.
: > [{quoted}](name=MeesterMo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vPnejAp3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-16T17:38:31.063+0000) > > Lol imagine being proud of being honor 0 checkpoint 3. Wow, you almost worked your way out of "unbelievable monster" levels! I think you misread my post, I state that I was honor lvl 3 at the last check point before honor level four at the time of this ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=WesKhalifa42,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BE0PUVhM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-16T04:13:25.527+0000) > WesKhalifa42: watch chat ban happen (: Plot twist!
This is literally my favorite genre of post: the Uno Reverse
: typical league why do i expect more
LMAOO enjoy the ban, use it to get some therapy and find some perspective!
: Really
The one thing I don't get is how does melting down this hard over being randomly matched with people who aren't as good as you at this video game not make you the snowflake?
konkopt (EUNE)
: My advice to save others and yourself some pain. Play ONE ranked game and see if you can do good. If you can keep playing, if you cant play mormals for a while longer, its competitive in ranked and people who use this ridiculous argument "its just a video game" have no right to play ranked games
Lol and people that think it's anything other than just a game should really see a doctor or something...
: >My entire team reports him, i just want to point out that 4 reports have the same value as 1 report. the extra 3 don't do anything. they don't influence the process in any way. the system sees the report, checks the game and if there is something to punish, it does. if not, nothing happens.
I know that everyone, including Riot, says this is the case, but the only time I am prompted with an Instant Feedback Report saying the player was punished is when everyone reports them. Not sure if this means that there actually is some benefit to multiple reports (i.e. maybe everyone checking different boxes on the report makes the bot check fof different kinds of misbehavior), or if the kind of things that get punished are the kinds of things that everyone can easily recognize, and thus, multiple reports.
rKRex (NA)
: This board is a perfect representation of cancel culture at its finest. Someone disagrees with you? Antagonize and downvote them so no one takes them seriously. Works every time.
Lol that's uh... not why people aren't taking you seriously, my dude.
: Haha ooooh, I see. Well good luck to you. I'm sure your mastery of facts and logic will serve you well when explaining to Riot support that actually, the really toxic people are the ones who are bad at a video game or do emotes you don't like, rather than the ones calling people inbred degenerates over said video game.
Alright, let's grant for a second that he was trolling. Let me ask you, if someone is trolling you at a video game, and you call them an "inbred degenerate" you wanna know which one 99.999% of the global population is going to tell you is worse? I'll give you two guesses. If someone gets their jollies by ruining a game by playing poorly on purpose, that's like a 4/10 on the immaturity scale. When someone 1) lashes out at said troll by calling them an inbred degenerate, 2) gets so mad they come make a forum post about how mad they are and brag about calling them inbred degenerates, and 3) insults literally everyone who is calmly pointing out to them that they are way out of line, that completely shatters the immaturity index. Need a new scale. lol. If that original person really was trolling, you just fed them an entire banquet of rage tears. Also, he wasn't trolling. He was bad, saw you spam pinging like a madman, thought it was funny you'd get so triggered over a game, so teased you with emotes.
rKRex (NA)
: its not an accusation, its a fact
Haha ooooh, I see. Well good luck to you. I'm sure your mastery of facts and logic will serve you well when explaining to Riot support that actually, the really toxic people are the ones who are bad at a video game or do emotes you don't like, rather than the ones calling people inbred degenerates over said video game.
konkopt (EUNE)
: i know thats why i said i slipped up. this cant happen to me just because i fell in their trap.i need to be able to learn from a mistake. i know i have gotten wardnings but i was beeing an asshole back then. this time i wasnt. i was just a reasonable man who slipped up and fell in a trap. and riot doesnt even care
No, they don't. And as you should be able to tell by now, neither does anyone else. The only person that distinction means anything to, is you. That's why I keep telling you that maybe this is good, and you should use this opportunity to try and get a little perspective - ideally away from the game for a bit.
konkopt (EUNE)
: i know, thats why i am mad. and i never flame someone for being bad. NEVER. nor do i ever go afk, nor have i EVER in my seven years of playing have i trolled. not even once. i have not even surrendered. i know i fell into their trap and thats why i said its torture. i lose my time, my promos, my game and i make the trolls happy, and i get perma banned and they probably dont get banned, AND its them who perma banned me, the digenerates that ruined my gamer and my day and probably my month because of this feking perma ban. after my first warning i even watch a video on youtube: how not to swear so much..... im sure that the swear words i said out of context were confused by the system and taken into account so they thought i was being toxic when i was clearly joking around, and at the ned i was making a ritorical question, i wasnt typing kys or being threatening at all, although i was out loud flaming at the screen to blow off steam. appearently the troll and toxic players have the power to make us all get banned. if you have ever seen the dark knight, its exactly like that guy who the joker made into a villain. the bad guys win. always. and the bad thing is i wont even get it back even if riot understands my points and sees context because thats how their '' rules'' are. this is so unfair. whatever, i wont bother anymore.... oh and onje more thing, riot said on the text i got: ''...everyone deserves respect on the rift..." are you kidding me.... this is just getting me madder and more tilted. thats just. not . fair. i cant strech this enough
No, they don't have that power. You give them that power when you give them the response they want. They don't have the power to do anything other than maybe ruin a match. You give them the power to ruin all these other things.
rKRex (NA)
: ***
Lol did you just tell me to go read up on what biases are, and also accuse everyone who is disagreeing with you of being a Riot employee in the same comment?
konkopt (EUNE)
: i get that, before i didnt just slip up, i was being toxic to players and think it wouldnt result in me getting punished because i was stupid. after my first 2 week account suspention though i gained some perspective and decided not to flame anymore. this was jsut a slip up and since its my first actual slip up , i didnt get a chance to not slip up again. just taken out as soon as it happened. this could have been prevented if they had dat least 2 chat logs from different games were i flamed, to make sure it wasnt target report or **just a slip up** you get 3 chat logs before banning chat for 1 week, but 1 before perma banning? this doesnt make sense. its like the biggest punishment you can get. at least make it FAIR
Riot is a private company. They have control over who is and who is not allowed to play their games. Tbh, you whined in game, and now you're whining on the forums. They could ban you just because nobody likes to play games with whiners. They have that right. You have no right to play their game. League of Legends is not a human right. I'm sorry man, but if you're looking for sympathy, I've got none. It is fair. You were toxic, then you got punished, then you couldn't even hold yourself to a higher standard for a month without "slipping up." That says way more about you than it does about Riot or its punishment system.
konkopt (EUNE)
: i get what u are saying, im not like that in games. i just slipped.up... i make it hard for people that ARE TROLLING AND FLAMING ME to enjoy their game?i have no right to defend myslef to the enenmy team who might as well have reproted me for no reason at all?
Hey dude, I'm brand new to the game, and I get people flipping out at me all the time. Probably at least half my games. Do you want to know how many times I've responded like this? Zero. Sometimes I mute them, sometimes I report them. I never do this. Most people that experience flaming and trolling (100% of players have experienced that) do not respond like this. Beyond putting your account at risk for punishment, it's also EXACTLY THE REACTION THAT TROLLS WANT. It's weird that people don't get that. If they are trolling you, they want you to flip out. When you flip out, you give them exactly the reaction they want. So you made the trolls happy, and also you got your account banned. That's a lose - lose decision.
konkopt (EUNE)
: no i didnt mean it like that. i didnt mean its ok to slip up if its once a month. i meant its been over a month since i have flamed and riot should be more considerate of this. before getting banned, after the game had ended, i knew i slipped up just a little bit and i was saying to myself: phhh its ok just let those idiots be dont bother again just mute from now on, u dont wanna get permabanned...
Right, but like, if - by your own admission - you can't even hold yourself to that standard for more than a few weeks at a time, how on earth can you 1) expect not to be punished, or 2) claim you're reformed and changed? Like sure, you say you've changed now, but what happens when your next promo game goes poorly? Would that be "just another slip up"? Obviously this isn't the first punishment you've had for this sort of behavior. I'm sure every time you think _okay, don't do that again, don't want to get in trouble._ It seems like you need to work on putting this game in perspective and learning some self-control before trying to return. You can't just break the rules, get punished, and then beg and plead about how you've changed. You have to actually change, and demonstrate that change. You can do that in the game by starting a new account, and then not doing this kind of stuff. Ever. Like most players do.
rKRex (NA)
: ***
Hey bud, when everyone on here is saying that you seem like a jerk, have you ever considered that perhaps the jerk... is you?
konkopt (EUNE)
: i also need a way to show i was reformed and i have learned a lesson, but didnt get the chance cause riot decided to ban me cuase i SLIPPED UP ONE TIME in a whole month. this just -**is.not.fair.**-
You know, slipping up once a month might sound reasonable to you, but to plenty of people, this never ever happens. It's like saying "Oh, I only shoplifted once this month, NOW I HAVE TO GO TO JAIL!?!" Like, okay maybe that's not much shoplifting for YOU, but uh... most people never shoplift.
konkopt (EUNE)
: i defended myself and malphite. i just slipped up and i know i shoudl have just muted the two toxic players who have been flamingme all game long. im sure u think im a toxic person and good for you, u are just as good as the 2 most toxic guys i ve ever seen in this community that apparently have the power to ban me. this is jsut torture. they made me boi and boil and i couldnt take it anymore, i slipped up, im human. and i got perma banned for it. at lewast get me banned because im flaming them for being bad players or smth, this is unacceptable after the effor that i ve put into this game, this is how they treat me back.
> this is jsut [sic] torture Okay, maybe it would be a good thing to take a break from games for a bit bud. Not only do you have no idea or understanding on why people don't like playing video games with people like you, but it really seems like your perspective overall is... pretty skewed. This is not torture. It's Riot removing a player who 1) broke the rules, and 2) makes it hard for people to enjoy playing their game. Try volunteering somewhere for a bit with your new free time. That might actually help you in-game as well, since you'd be gaining some much needed perspective.
Bloodloss (EUW)
: You're entirely correct on that, but I'd love to try and understand why this person thinks that doing what he's doing is in any way or capacity NOT worse than what I did in game, I like understanding why people think what they think.
Want a real answer? Here's how it breaks down: people that complain and moan during the game make it unfun. I don't actually care about "toxicity" so much, because I'm not particularly sensitive. I also don't have any illusions about how I can be mean. I am aware that my sense of humor can hurt people's feelings, and thus, I try to keep it to the appropriate forums (which, until I was told otherwise, I figured this was). What I do mind: people that make the game unfun. I play LoL to have fun. It's ridiculously hard for me (and lots of people) to have a good time in a game when someone is doing this kind of thing in the chat. What many people call "toxic," I call, "having a giant tantrum." I don't get my feelings hurt by that tantrum, but I do get extremely irritated by the tantrum. Think of it as trying to play a game while there is a shrieking toddler in the room: you wouldn't be insulted by the toddler, but you would be annoyed as hell. What's worse, there's nothing you can really do other than mute and report them, all the while your teammates are continuing to put up with, and respond to, said tantrum. You are, presumably, not a toddler. So while I could never mock and tease a toddler, since it doesn't know any better, I can mock someone who is obviously old enough to be playing league and make posts on forums. It's cathartic to get my ten free punches in when people post on here, since there isn't any in-game recourse I really have at all (though again, now that I've been told not to do that, I'm going to keep it to a minimum). Maybe you think of that as toxic, and maybe you think that makes me a worse person than you. That's fine, maybe I am a worse person than you, I have no idea, nor do I care. But what I don't do is ruin other people's fun at a game. And that's what Riot cares about, not who is the "better person," but who is ruining the fun of their game. So if you're wondering how I can justify laughing at you for getting banned from the game, when you consider that to be toxic, now you know. Now, they're telling me to stop egging you on, and since you seem like the kind of person who would reply until the heat death of the universe, this is the only real reply you get, no matter how long the wall of text is you reply with.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > Heh, alright, I'll leave it be. Thank you, I appreciate it. > Sort of a side note, but I notice you've been pretty calmly explaining why the behavior was problematic and I'm curious, how often would you say that gets through to people? See, I've been thinking that these people will never understand why what they're doing is unacceptable, but do you have success with that on here sometimes? I'm not going to lie, a majority of the posts on PB are just throwaways. Someone gets mad about a chat restriction and/or ban, they make a post calling Riot "snowflakes" or some other insult, then they move on with their lives and nothing comes of it. The reason I make posts and stay active here is because sometimes what you say _does_ strike a chord with people and it helps them through what they're dealing with. Sometimes it will be as simple as getting them to stop flaming, other times it will be some oddly-deep behavioral breakthrough where they realize what they're doing is wrong and that there's another person on the other side of that screen. Whatever the result is, someone needs to be there to calmly and objectively explain things even if others might disagree with it. And of course I'm not trying to act perfect, I've made my fair share of condescending/passive-aggressive comments.
Yeah, I feel. I'm kinda the reverse on here (brand new to the game and it's toxicity, so you would not believe the jollies I get from seeing the people end up here). Like 90% of the time I'm trying to just get some yucks and maybe 10% trying to get through to someone, lol. Good luck with your crusade. Hope you're the one that's right.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > Aww. I thought this was exactly that place. Any idea where that place is? > That isn't allowed anywhere on the boards. > The punishment is good and deserved. It's bonkers to me that people don't understand that no matter how lame your team is playing, it's always worse to say rude or crappy things to them. Congratulations, doesn't give you the right to go out of your way to provoke and harass someone. Again, just move on please. If morals and good behavior are so important to you, offer constructive advice to this person in particular or be the bigger person and walk away.
Heh, alright, I'll leave it be. Sort of a side note, but I notice you've been pretty calmly explaining why the behavior was problematic and I'm curious, how often would you say that gets through to people? See, I've been thinking that these people will never understand why what they're doing is unacceptable, but do you have success with that on here sometimes?
Hotarµ (NA)
: This isn't the place to egg people on and harass them. Say what you need to say regarding the punishment if it's constructive, otherwise, move on.
Aww. I thought this was exactly that place. Any idea where that place is? The punishment is good and deserved. It's bonkers to me that people don't understand that no matter how lame your team is playing, it's always worse to say rude or crappy things to them.
: Update the Tribunal System or Give Leniency
Setting aside the rest of the stuff in your post, no, we don't all do this. Plenty of us never flame in chat, and go by the rule that if we don't have anything nice to say, we don't say anything at all (yes, that includes when people are flipping out at us - I'm new, I get flipped out at all the time). In fact, even though some games it may not seem like it, I think it actually is the minority of players that do this at all. Lol it's expensive to be a jerk to strangers, huh?
Bloodloss (EUW)
: Excuse me?
Hahaha you told him to report your and then you got banned. Omg that person must be so satisfied I'm legit jealous. Side note: it's amazing to me how people really trying to go RIGHT UP to the edge of what they consider to be punishable toxicity. Like, you were being a jerk here, no matter how crappy your team is. You figured that because you avoided the big no-no words you'd be fine, and free to be a jerk. After all, there's always people more toxic than you, so why would you get punished? Turns out that wasn't the case, huh bud? XD
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MeesterMo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tjEGQUOa,comment-id=0003000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-02T21:58:32.753+0000) > > I hear ya, and I agree that more could be done, but what I'm saying is that the specific thing you have an issue with (gg ez) is going to be like, #81,237 on the "super toxic things that we should probably handle" list. If it's exacerbating your mental health troubles, the game is 100% not worth it. > > I mean, obviously that doesn't excuse people being shitty in the game, and yes, I'd love to see more aggressive punishment for toxicity. But trust, you can get your dopamine rush from games that don't trigger you like that. Honestly, this isn't "you're being a baby, leave." It's just that I really think there are plenty of things that are just as fun that might be healthier for you for a bit. Good luck tho. tbh this game is one of the only things im decent at now a days, quitting would actually be worse for my health
Oh man, I'd really speak with your doctor about that. It can't possibly be healthy to invest so much into such a truly toxic game, lol. Honestly man, good luck. For real. If it helps at all, I've only ever done "gg ez" completely ironically. I think I've said it like three times (I'm extremely new, lol), and each time it was after a miraculous comeback. I'm sure there are people that are doing it just to rub it in, but maybe if you think of it more as a joke you'll have an easier time with it.
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MeesterMo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tjEGQUOa,comment-id=00030000000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-02T16:20:24.043+0000) > > I'm not saying that mental health issues can necessarily be cured, but obviously there are things that can exacerbate / trigger them in people, and it certainly seems like this game is one of them. I'm not a doctor, but again, if something that 99.999% of people are just fine with makes you this upset, than obviously this game isn't good for you or your mental health. The behavior of the entire rest of the world isn't going to change, so you need to think about whether this is something worth continuing when there are many many other games out there. this is why im bringing this up, personally i would like to see riot do something about it, since toxicity has been running rampant and unchecked for a while now and riot has been doing next to nothing about it
I hear ya, and I agree that more could be done, but what I'm saying is that the specific thing you have an issue with (gg ez) is going to be like, #81,237 on the "super toxic things that we should probably handle" list. If it's exacerbating your mental health troubles, the game is 100% not worth it. I mean, obviously that doesn't excuse people being shitty in the game, and yes, I'd love to see more aggressive punishment for toxicity. But trust, you can get your dopamine rush from games that don't trigger you like that. Honestly, this isn't "you're being a baby, leave." It's just that I really think there are plenty of things that are just as fun that might be healthier for you for a bit. Good luck tho.
: Got banned for this, it's golden comedy time
Is the comedy the lack of self-awareness, or the fact that you probably spent money on the game and now you can't get it back? You're right, both are pretty funny.
Ludicrum (EUW)
: Badluck prematching with toxic peoples.. how do you guys go around it?
Honestly coming here is very cathartic. Between matches with toxic people I refresh the board and laugh and laugh and laugh at the people getting permabanned, then I'm cool playing a little more because I know that toxic people are playing a risky game. I have a dream that one day I'll report someone and they'll end up here, going full sicko mode on the boards. Other, longer-term players will have better in-game tips, but don't forget to get some yucks at the toxic bozos expense here.
zPOOPz (NA)
: Ah damn, I don't have bingo. I'm missing the "bring back tribunal" square. Anyone got bingo on this?
I had "because of nothing" "didn't even swear" "FREE SQUARE" "Stupid bots" and was just waiting on "wall of text that is completely unhinged chatlog" maybe they'll edit it and I'll win.
Kendren1 (NA)
: Literally said nothing about getting upset to any level. I just said I rather assume players are trolling/inting than to face that they might in reality be that dumb of humans. U come off abit upset about what people are saying to u over the internet tho.
I mean, I get that you were mostly joshin' in your first reply, but it's insane to me to think that there are really people out there who think that being bad or new at LoL = being dumb. Like, imagine your mom played LoL. She would suck donkey nuts at it, I promise. Does that mean that she is dumb? Obviously not. But when you have that kind of mentality, that's what leads people to act like fucking lunatics in the chat, because they think that being bad at the game = lesser. Being lesser = being worthy of abuse. Again, I'm not saying that's how you really think, because I can see that your original comment was meant half in jest, but that is exactly the unconscious thought path that leads people to act like psychos.
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MeesterMo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tjEGQUOa,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2019-11-02T05:31:17.983+0000) > > it's time to log off, friend. take a break. If you're already having a mental health episode, and everyone in the world is telling you that you are wrong about this, you should recognize that it's not the phrase that's upsetting you, it's your already present mental health woes. You shouldn't be playing such a high stress game if you're having these issues anyhow. Go to a doctor, and find something else to occupy your mind for a bit. i go to a doctor guy, there is nothing to be done, i suffer from several severe mental health disorders that no amount of medicine/surgery can fix without turning me into a vegetable, and yes it is very much the phrase that pisses me off, i can be completely calm about losing, even so far as to type gg after losing, but as soon as some piece of shit types ggez after winning i lose it, i hate this phrase with a passion as its un-needed toxicity, the only point of saying it after winning is to belittle and bully the enemy team, you already fucking won the game you don't need to shit talk further, i find this comment extremely toxic unsportsmanlike and disrespectful, i get it your some sweaty loser over the internet that cant do anything besides play league but fuck, show some sportsmanship TL;DR it is the disrespect that pisses me off
I'm not saying that mental health issues can necessarily be cured, but obviously there are things that can exacerbate / trigger them in people, and it certainly seems like this game is one of them. I'm not a doctor, but again, if something that 99.999% of people are just fine with makes you this upset, than obviously this game isn't good for you or your mental health. The behavior of the entire rest of the world isn't going to change, so you need to think about whether this is something worth continuing when there are many many other games out there.
: I used all chat to let the enemy team know that this player was inting as she wasnt on the map. also please let me know what is toxic here
I would point it out to you, but I honestly don't think you'd understand. I think you're too emotionally stunted, largely by this game, to wrap your head around why these things are not okay to say / do. Sorry bud. This will be good for ya!
Kendren1 (NA)
: Rofl totally, because you know all. Ur big brain but the people you play with can't tell if ur trolling or serious because they're "baby's". And only big boys go on forums to whine about people on the internet accusing them of trolling.
I mean, I'm not sure what else you'd call someone that gets this level of upset over a video game. What term would you use? Very Stable And Mature Adult?
: Just a Tip for everyone out there
haha owned. I have a question for folks like you: when you get the 2-week suspension, and they you hop back into the game, why do you chat at all? Like, obviously you don't understand what is wrong with what you are doing, I get that, but even if you don't understand the specifics of why normal people don't like this, how come you don't have the sense to say, "Gee, even though I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, the way I chat will players in this game is getting me in trouble, so I better not use the chat if I want to keep my account."
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tele II,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tjEGQUOa,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-02T04:19:56.653+0000) > > Damn, so sensitive over a video game. Its not a big deal dude. Youre giving it more power than it deserves. Riot panders to the majority, as to maximize playerbase and profit. So dont expect them to cater to you just because you happen to find this one phrase so hurtful. Sorry man. Stop letting it bother you so much. Youre poisoning yourself. > > Like you said "this community finds it okay", so conform to the community. The community doesn't conform to you. Sensitive? no....you can tell me to kill myself i wont care (even though I'm a suicidal wreck in rl) call me a bitch, i wont care, call me anything i wont care, its literally just this fucking phrase, i hate it, i fucking hate it, it pushes me away from this game so quickly and honestly is just outright toxic
it's time to log off, friend. take a break. If you're already having a mental health episode, and everyone in the world is telling you that you are wrong about this, you should recognize that it's not the phrase that's upsetting you, it's your already present mental health woes. You shouldn't be playing such a high stress game if you're having these issues anyhow. Go to a doctor, and find something else to occupy your mind for a bit.
MetaGeek (NA)
: Chat Restictions
lol good, you seem like a real joy to play video games with.
: Yes you wrote an entire wall of text because you were "mildly irritated". Let's keep pretending that. =)
Haha see where you're coming from, but honestly I wrote a wall of text because my new favorite part of league is this board. Permabanned tears give me L I F E
: Here's my chat log, threatening a permaban.
Okay, really awful is a relative term. While yes, I have seen worse in League, the standard you should be using is "if I said this to a person in real life, would that be considered acceptable?" not "is this the worst thing I've ever seen in LoL chat?" edit: oh my god, please keep us posted on your "legal action" dude, lol.
: There's some truth to what people told you about people being banned, but you will see that it gets 1000x worse in ranked, for the most part. One big reason, and Riot doesn't do a good job of educating new players about this, is that not a single player is ready to play ranked when they open it up (which I think is just hitting level 30 and having X number of champs). If you switch to ranked as soon as you can, you WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY be the worst player in the game, will cause your team to lose, and you will get raged at. This isn't necessarily your fault; like I said, Riot doesn't do a good job of letting people know that they shouldn't jump into ranked as soon as they unlock it. I would estimate that the average player needs between 300 and 500 games before they are ready to actually contribute to a ranked match. If you started playing ranked right away, you will almost definitely drop down to the lower tier of skills quickly (as the system recognizes that you are not very skilled), but that is a whole different cesspool of toxicity. And the ranked system, by and large, is a crapshoot anyway. For example, this season I started in Bronze 1/Silver 4 after placements in both Duo and Flex queue ranked. It took me almost 300 games to get to Gold in Duo, but less than 50 games to do it in Flex.
Good to know that I shouldn't hop right into ranked when I unlock it, thanks. Curious, would you say that some of the toxicity in ranked could be characterized as extremely angry, but generally correct criticism? I wouldn't have as much of an issue with someone shitting their pants over my screwing up if they did so in a way that helped me learn how to play better.
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: Remember this is most just my opinion but It's a mixture of all those things really. I think during S5 someone correct me if I'm wrong. Tenecent did not own Riot so the devs imo worked on the game as a labor of love rather that what was going to bring in more players. LCS was definitely prominent but it wasn't so prominent that devs weren't specifically balancing the game or creating champions to promote it more. Were there busted champs? Yeah but it was more a numbers thing than champion kits being overloaded. The biggest thing was that Runes Reforged had still not rolled through. You had a lot more diversity on how you would like to play a champion rather than the preset runes that heavily sync with specific champions making other champions inefficient even if they played similarly. Matchmaking was definitely better than it is now and there was a lot of jungle diversity. I've been playing since S2 so everyone else is going to have a vastly different opinion on this but I feel the biggest shift in the game came from Runes Reforged. It felt like to me before it was here is your champion play them any way you want. You want to jungle Kled sure it can work as long as you have to skill to pull it off. Now it's more like ... you can play jungle kled but it won't really work anymore. Press the attack or Conquerer Kled top is how we want you to play him. There's more I could go on about. Vision getting reduced. Specific items syncing so well with certain champions it feels like Riot has an agenda with who they want to see played. How Riot blatantly pushed solo lane champions into support roles by changing their kit numbers so they wouldn't thrive anywhere else. The rise of flashy hyper mobility champions which have again imo brought in new players who care more about getting kills and "outplaying their opponent with their 5 dashs, 3 blinks, etc " rather than using strategy to actually win the game. However, the biggest take away from my long as rant is this. Pre S5 you didn't have a collar around your neck in how you wanted to play this game. Now at least for me, I feel limited in my champion expression no matter what role I'm playing. Jungle my generally main role is a mess and with this new season, i think I may just switch to the new card game. People were definitely toxic pre 5 don't get me wrong but it never started in champion selection. People were also a lot more helpful and uplifting if you happened to feed because your lane was really ruff. I've played so many games were a teammate/teammates dced but because we had the right attitude we won late game 4v5's sometimes even 3v5s. Those days are gone now and I don't think they're ever coming back.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of competitive games go this way. It's a shame, because you're right, there's very little wiggle room for creative play. Some of it has to do with the player base - as they get better at a game, and learn its ins and outs, they'll realize the absolute optimal way to play it, which really stifles the ability for new things. But of course, developers can choose to develop into that, or away from it, and it sounds like they've opted to really lean in to that sort of thing.
: Your experience isn't likely to change. You'll grow use to it. Find friends to play with. Also: > PS maybe youre just too sensitive for league.
I'm not sure where people are getting this from my post, but I'm not like, crying about toxicity in-game. I posted this to ask people who do this kind of stuff why they do it, and to point out that from someone coming from other competitive games, even team-based ones, it seems very odd. I find this "you're just too sensitive for league" thing so odd. Like, obviously if I was actually bummed out about it, I wouldn't play the game. What's weird to me is that people unironically type this and don't see anything askew with their life priorities. Like okay, you love LoL. You're good at LoL. But if that turns you into a foaming at the mouth lunatic in the chat, don't you think it's, you know, probably bad for you? Don't you think that it kind of says something about you as a person?
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2ntGBtvE,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-01T20:32:58.979+0000) > > Doesn't matter. If you don't remove the names, your thread(s) will be removed. The boards rules prohibit naming and shaming. Period. Remove it then, the guy won't get punished anyway. I don't really care anyway, i'm posting it on every social media.
Love too have tantrums about video games in public.
: Question for rioters
I can wrap my head around this, but a question I have is why go out of the way to keep people who clearly have bad attitudes in the game? People with chronic chat problems clearly do not have the maturity to handle a team-based competitive game. I think it improves the overall experience for all players if they are kicked out of the game, and I don't really understand the incentive to try and keep them playing.
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