: Because. Bruiser mains have managed to cry themselves into a situation where they are the only class that auto wins 90% of fights. They were strong and somehow the hashinshins convinced the majority of the game that they were weak. So riot buffed them. And then they saw the pattern. All they needed to do was be the loudest voices crying “bruisers suck because mages” all while shitting on every other class from every angle possible. And eventually riot would buff them even more. And here we are.
The alternative was Riot lose all Toplane melee players which let's be honest was happening from season 6-8.
Dormammu (NA)
: So is Morde a shadow isles champ or noxus?
Mordekaiser was Noxus before noxus was noxus. His remains were locked in the blessed isle, while he built his own empire with blackjack and hookers. Now he is back ruling over the undead. Morde is fundamentally the founder that Galvanized Noxus and the big Spoopy boi from the shadow isles.
: Why would you ever suspect Riot of lying?
I have been around since season 1, I have seen this shit every year.
: Players; Hey Riot, for Season 10 you should lower damage.
Like I'm sure they will lie about it. Say that they reduce damage or if they do changes it lasts a patch.
: Way too many AFKs.
I don't really blame em. Games are determined by minute 3. Some just in champ select.
Tailypo (NA)
: We'll have to wait and see what the new elixirs and potions do, but I have a feeling this will hurt Ez. He needs all the early gold he can get to become relevant.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: Would you rather be sad or angry?
Sadness & Anger encapsulate a similar emotion caused by percieved injustice. The only difference is the presence or lack of Passion.
powerbro (EUW)
: Nerf Mordekaiser
Awwww shucks, Morde isn't even good.
: How Lucian can go to the Shadow Isles
How can Lucian go to the shadow isle's? The same way he will leave. A dead man walking.
: Playing front line champions no longer feels fun
Your fun is not important, only micro play champ and ranged stat checks are allowed to have fun.
: It seems that Riot keeps nerfing ranged while buffing melee?
{{item:3053}} is a Juggernaught item. At no point should a ranged champion be buying this item and gaining more of a benefit from it than the INTENDED user's. No offense too ranged champions, but they are just delayed stat checks. 2 years of Riot catering to their every whim was enough.
Kanzler (NA)
: {{champion:8}} Gentleman
> [{quoted}](name=Kanzler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=th7AwXB5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-30T14:38:50.078+0000) > > {{champion:8}} Gentleman A Gentleman donates blood.
MrAdamQ (EUNE)
: Vayne top
Low playrate cancer, but 100% hyper cancer.
: Counterplay.exe has stopped responding
File not found. Would you like to restore to a previous edition of the game? Y/N
: Quitting the game on the 26th when Code Vein comes out, would encourage all to do the same
> [{quoted}](name=AlterMordred,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cjKAeJHO,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-23T15:11:31.520+0000) > > Quitting the game on the 26th when Code Vein comes out, would encourage all to do the same That game looks insane, hype hype
: > [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bBFyIElO,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-09-22T16:20:04.289+0000) > > Excellent post, gathered data is very useful. > > I'd add my thought on the rework here, for anyone interested. I think we all agree Mordekaiser rework is a general succes: it may have flaws and leave some discontented, but we are very, very far from the catastrophe of Aatrox rewok. So we can all be in a good mood and discuss calmly and constructively. > > --- > > **The reasons for malcontent.** > > I feel like the biggest controversy for his old mains, is the absence of a permashield, which was iconic, but undeniably what ate all pre-rework Morde's power budget forcing him to be a meme pick. The reason for reworks is also often to purify the kit from some toxic elements that plague it. As a champion main, seeing past the bias can be hard, and I know from experience, as I strongly opposed the introduction of a warning on Rengar ultimate, many years ago. Now i see that it was necessary, and for the best of both the parts involved, Rengar players and their opponents; but at the time, scarejumping enemies was the core Rengar experience for me, and I couldn't renounce it. > > So, about the W, I cant think of anything but tweaking the numbers in order to make it a satisfying spell to use. That said, it's hard to imagine Morde's main (and already strong) defensive tool buffed while keeping his offense unaltered.... and this brings us to my next point. > > --- > > **Delayed damage pattern.** > > I know that what I'm proposing wouldn't work well in today's burst and mobility damage league... but I wish Mordekaiser had more DPS, in exchange for survivability. Right now, hitting E-Q chunks like crazy, and I think that's not optimal considered the champion's fantasy. "Mordekaiser runs you down, you try to hit him, but for naught. He doesnt care, doesnt flinch, doesnt stop and beats you up" - that's what I want to feel when i play him. So I would like to propose some changes: > - his Q is now a 3 part ability. More DPS, less burst. Hitting is multiple times increases Morde's skill floor, and that's not a bad thing. Last but not least, makes him fairer to play against in the Death Realm. > - his passive doesn't damage only, but steals life from those caught in it. More survivability in longer fights, and in though situation in the middle of multiple enemies. > > --- > > **The ultimate.** > > Not a prime example of counterplay, is it? But I don't think that's going away. Also, getting out of it with a QSS makes it a only a nuisance for competent players. That said, _I really miss unslaving the souls of my enemies._ I really do. Getting a reward for killing somebody in the Death Realm is intended, as you steal their stats. Why not remove something as bland as that, while re-introducing the good old pet ghost? That's more nostalgia than anything. > > --- > > **Not only in the toplane.** > > The first Morde rework, did many wrongs, but it did something very interesting too: it introduced that vague idea that a Juggernaut could work in the botlane. Having Mordekaiser have some botlane synergies would be nice, in my opinion. I have a couple of proposals: > - make W2 consume any shield Mordekaiser has on, not only his own. That way, he could get more sustain from enchanters. > - reintroduce drake ghost. I loved it to death. That's personal, obviously. > > Thank you for reading! Agreed pet ghost is cooler, but never coming back because bugs and the constant upkeep it required on every new champ release
DrDubb (NA)
: Anyone else feels like there is TOO MUCH CDR in the game?
To answer your question, just for meta champs
: Why is malphite, a tank, better played as an AP assasin?
JAMASAK (EUW)
: What Champion is this?? (big brain only)
ßoro (NA)
: mordekaiser is busted
> [{quoted}](name=ßoro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LIsvktUr,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-22T23:45:01.984+0000) > > a big beefy semitank with huge aoe damage and a massive shield OR a heal, with hard cc and a 1v1 arena that also saps stats AND keeps stats ( which is mostly just wasted power) FTFY > fair right guys? Yeah i mean there is far more cancerous shit in this game, dodge the E, buy QSS.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yHk8amT,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-22T12:37:38.142+0000) > > Mathematically speaking with how penetration items work now a " Tank" Meta cannot exist as it did before. But if you are afraid of irrational things, could i interest you in some volcano insurance. You must not have played when tank fizz was a thing
> [{quoted}](name=Lockheed U2S,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yHk8amT,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-22T13:02:54.251+0000) > > You must not have played when tank fizz was a thing I did and i often remark how the problem of tank assassins are responsible for the shitty state of the game we currently have.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yHk8amT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-22T12:25:26.067+0000) > > Well he can't tank in the conventional sense so he has resorted to his only Viable build path. But please keep ignoring how defensive options are garbage. Yeah lets go back to tank meta where trash players can excel
> [{quoted}](name=Lockheed U2S,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yHk8amT,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-22T12:30:11.329+0000) > > Yeah lets go back to tank meta where trash players can excel Mathematically speaking with how penetration items work now a " Tank" Meta cannot exist as it did before. But if you are afraid of irrational things, could i interest you in some volcano insurance.
: Conqueror is going to get changed
Makes me wonder if Morde will be on the compensation buff list.
: AP MALPHITE IS PERFECTLY BALANCED
Well he can't tank in the conventional sense so he has resorted to his only Viable build path. But please keep ignoring how defensive options are garbage.
: HA no bottom lane morde looking balanced ever? yeah no
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=a8GRwJiE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-22T11:58:04.082+0000) > > HA > no > bottom lane morde looking balanced ever? > yeah no They hard nerfed him outta the game after that garbage worlds patch. Hilarious people still complain about that of all things.
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: Let's Discuss Morde
Remind me how much damage Mordes ult does.
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: New Riven skin splash looks like Azula from Avatar
When the skins look mediocre, i guess they really need to ramp up those unnecessary buffs.
: So..What exactly is Vayne and Caitlyn's roles now?
1 answer for both, stat check from range.
: Can we give Mordekaiser some love?
I hate how he is just as squishy as before but with a shittier shield.
: Reminder that Dragon Knight Morde's VFX are still split between purple and base colors
Riot doesn't care. Maybe on Mordes next skin in 2 years or so they might, might give a product equal to their standards.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Damage scales faster and harder than defense.
Riot doesn't give a fuck, they don't see the negative impacts it has on their playerbase.
GigglesO (NA)
: I think others Underestimate why I complain about damage.
The games too far gone. Let the damage addicts have it. Im looking for the door, since there us nothing here worth salvaging.
: Looked up his stats and he has higher pickrate and winrate in top lane, at least the data I found says that. Hovering around 52% winrate in top lane in plat+, with 6.75% pickrate. That's far from "being removed from high tier play", don't you think?
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/mordekaiser/top/diamond https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/mordekaiser/top/master That's a sharp drop off
: Master Yi is one of the best objective takers in the game, comparing him to morde doesn't really make sense, they fill very different roles. After his rework Morde was very very strong. Now he's about balanced, but really, he's still quite strong. His kit is pretty simple so he's not really a difficult champ to do well with either. He's a better top laner than a jungler or mid laner, though. In the jungle he's alright, but his ganks aren't really great and he's not the best objective taker.
Incorrect he is a better midlaner than toplaner. He is a niche counterpick champion only now. The continuous nerfs pretty much removed him from high tier play. He has no in combat sustain He has clear weaknesses, high cooldowns and offers meaningful counter play options ( dodge th E) Meanwhile He loses to aa reliant stat check champion like fiora, vayne, jax, yi, and Riven Also his 1 defensive steroid is Fucking garbage
: Eternals Feedback Thread: Set 1 Uniques
Ill be honest idgaf about eternals.
: Skin Release and Champion Buffs
They have gone on record saying they do buff for skins. It doesn't always happen. But more often than not. Afaik All we want is to see a sharp increase in skins for champions without many. That is not to much too ask
: ADC is near impossible to 1v9 on
If you make it to late game you get to stat check everyone from range.
GigglesO (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Azir ate my ASS,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AHprYcvz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-02T00:40:23.243+0000) > > is this not every team game League didn't used to feel this way when defense had a higher value and worth.
> [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AHprYcvz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T02:07:31.763+0000) > > League didn't used to feel this way when defense had a higher value and worth. Exactly
: > [{quoted}](name=8Belthazor8,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FbKY00Gs,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T07:59:19.695+0000) > > She is far the best toplaner that is why she almost never played in pro play right? > > Now this is a perfect example for hate fueled by stupidity. > > Riven's win rates: > > bronze: 44.31% > silver: 45.93% > gold (your elo on this account): 47.3% > > Such high numbers, now wonder you have trouble to deal with this broken champion. > > So? She is fun to play. Also it is more challenging to master her than most of the champions. > > This type of comment usually comes from someone who starts insulting his enemy laner because his ass was kicked by him then comes to board and complains about how toxic that player was. Also if she is so easy than why don't you play her at all? Wait, let me guess. You are not in the mood. It is odd how those who say Riven is a no-skill champion never played her while they only play actually braindead point and click champions and lanebullies. What a coincidence. I haven't played against on a Riven on this account this season. My problem is the fact they bend over backwards to appease her playerbase and constantly make sure she is strong (much like they do for ADC mains) while not giving a fuck about anything else.
> [{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FbKY00Gs,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T08:29:04.491+0000) > > I haven't played against on a Riven on this account this season. My problem is the fact they bend over backwards to appease her playerbase and constantly make sure she is strong (much like they do for ADC mains) while not giving a fuck about anything else. Why downvote he is right
: Yorick goons and Morde Ult
That's a cool interaction
: > [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JemBEakY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-01T04:11:37.255+0000) > > His early game is kinda shit I've noticed, but he can still be a late game monster. Even if he does fall behind he still has his ult which is REALLY powerful for teamfights. Doesn't really matter too much when the rest of your team winds up dead and you're stuck in a 1v4. Not to mention that's even if you get there.
Its a double edged sword of an ult. I have fallen on that sword plenty of times. Honestly the Ult needs tweaks and his W needs tweaks.
YaraUwU (NA)
: Cant wait for riven to be OP as shit and then riot not be able to nerf her cause "its worlds"
: Eve was actually overnerfed I hang out in an Eve main discord and almost everyone's given up on her ass at all ranks. The only reason her win rate is even close to holding is no one is dumb enough to pick up such a weak champion. So that win rate is based off of mostly one trick Eve's. The problém when you only look at win rate is it ignores factors like this.
I mean back in the day morde had less than 1% playrate and 46% winrate. Played mostly by one tricks, but good old Riot games only left him like that for 2 years. This is Favoritism BS. Vayne has been buffed Preworlds EVERY YEAR since her release. Fuk em
: “Power budget” is a lie.
I mean why downvotes? OP is right.
: I think irelia deserves a bit of love (buff)
I think Morde does aswell. But i doubt it will happen.
: His early game is kinda shit I've noticed, but he can still be a late game monster. Even if he does fall behind he still has his ult which is REALLY powerful for teamfights.
That depends if they bought QSS and i would say the majority of the roster could beat Morde in 1v1 late game. Riot games: " when a Champion ults somebody should die". I guess Mordes the only champ i can think of that would be on the dead side of that quote more often than not.
: his E is so terribly easy to dodge and it doesn't even slow if you land it {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Inb4, but he can buy rylais. Comment. Guess what so can everybody. Sadly Mordes sticking potential is so low he needs rylais too function. That's depressing
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