: > [{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOupgJGT,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2020-01-12T08:30:09.557+0000) > > 52% winrate is = 55%? He was never that broken, stop spreading misinformation. His winrate is also now down to 50% since the nerfs I mean, spoken like a true morde free win abuser. And there were literally only nerfs against ranged chanps, who were already his worse matchups. His passive damage just needs to come down to where he can't just whiff everything, walk up and auto and passive any one person to death in death realm
> [{quoted}](name=Minimac2000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOupgJGT,comment-id=0000000000020000,timestamp=2020-01-12T18:08:49.072+0000) > > I mean, spoken like a true morde free win abuser. And there were literally only nerfs against ranged chanps, who were already his worse matchups. His passive damage just needs to come down to where he can't just whiff everything, walk up and auto and passive any one person to death in death realm Morde abuser? I've played him since season 4, how is that a Morde abuser? I'm just using stats from websites, so do some research. Only when he's fed or in bronze is where he can just walk at people and miss everything to kill them.
: I think CertainlyT should have stuck to designing supports purely to aid the marksmen. This "colorful character" designing anything else has quite literally ran a muck in our roster of champion picks and in every sense of the way has ruined the majority of the same champions because they were made in mind of only being played- which is always an unhealthy perspective for league of legends because the perspective knowing what it is like to play against it is almost never considered. Just imagine having to go up against a champion that is quite literally every single champion ever made and then tell me that's not exactly what these champions felt like that. I mean seriously, just look at his work and then tell me that they aren't the exact epitome of problems plaguing league on a constant basis. {{champion:122}} Never a bad pick. {{champion:143}} Never a bad pick {{champion:412}} Made it into plenty of championships and is the only one that actually fits the role properly once appropriately nerfed. {{champion:157}} Too many unfair advantages {{champion:142}} Got gutted pretty hard many times and yet still pretty damn powerful but super boring to play if your all in 1 ability cast is ruined by a simple dodge. {{champion:523}} Too damn powerful to play against and yet too damn weak if nerfed by a smidge. {{champion:82}} No one ever wins a 1v1 against this brute and absolutely everything about him is to blame. {{champion:104}} Sucks way more now compared to when he actually had his cigar. {{champion:51}} Never a bad pick. {{champion:19}} Too many nerfs, yet still dominates in only the jungle. {{champion:84}} Later ended up getting too many alterations/nerfs. Do you know what they all have in common? They typically take away or are given a core element within the game and that is just unhealthy for absolutely everyone except for those who actually get to do this.
CertainlyT didn't make Morde's rework, do some research. His juggernaut rework was CertainlyT, but not the new Morde
: > [{quoted}](name=Kroda13,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOupgJGT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-07T23:32:20.205+0000) > > He got the only nerf he needs He's 55% wr, undeniably the best toplaner in the game rn and also dead easy to play *doubt*
> [{quoted}](name=Minimac2000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOupgJGT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-07T23:40:41.007+0000) > > He's 55% wr, undeniably the best toplaner in the game rn and also dead easy to play > *doubt* 52% winrate is = 55%? He was never that broken, stop spreading misinformation. His winrate is also now down to 50% since the nerfs
: He was when the revive was on the kit with the heal amp. He was overloaded good, not overloaded bullshit, thats the difference.
He was also overloaded with his rework. Not only did he have the revive, but he also had grevious wounds and grevious wounds for shields on his passive on top of his current % max HP damage passive. His E also gave him AD. Then they slowly removed all those mechanics alongside his nerfs. Other ones would be Akali and Irelia after their reworks, some of the most overloaded champs at the time. Akali: Q healing removed, W shroud no longer gives obscurity, and R no longer stuns Irelia: Bonus damage to shields removed, W no longer reduces all damage, R no longer disarms
: A nerf won't do it, he needs a minirework
: Don't forget that 50ap turns into 70ap when the user gets a deathcap. The Ap should be reduced by half.
Ok, but not every champ gets Dcap. Don't forget that Infinity Edge or any crit increases the damage dealt through the 30 AD as well :) If the AP goes to 25, then the AD would have to go to about 15 to make it even in gold value.
mark6028 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UFRYK140,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-12-29T06:47:23.998+0000) > > The stats Conqueror gives isn't too high, it's just the healing, needs to be lowered to 12% or 10%. > > 30 AD / 50 AP is just the cherry on top, but if you nerf the AP, the AD needs to get nerfed too. Why would you have to nerf a measily 30 Ad lol? Fuck off with your braindead trash pick. Be glad you are able to build cheap broken items on him.
Why would you nerf the AP? Conq gives the same stats for AD and AP, so nerf one and you have to nerf the other
Raiyza (NA)
: I'd like to see his healing/shield numbers toned down.
He doesn't have any in-combat sustain, that's all Conqueror and Ravenous Hunter being busted. His sustain in his kit is practically 0 since his rework
: So when Riot would nerf Mordekaiser?
The stats Conqueror gives isn't too high, it's just the healing, needs to be lowered to 12% or 10%. 30 AD / 50 AP is just the cherry on top, but if you nerf the AP, the AD needs to get nerfed too.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EsJWbpdZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-25T18:46:04.906+0000) > > 52% winrate is broken now? There's a lot of champions that RIot needs to nerf now. > > Also, if you're complaining about current Morde, then you obviously didn't play against old Morde. Did everything this Morde does but way better, way more of a "raid boss" (haha...). It pisses me off that old Morde died for this cancerous POS. Old Morde required way more thought and was more fun than this keyboard slamming uninteractive discount Darius.
> [{quoted}](name=King Livid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EsJWbpdZ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-25T19:03:02.167+0000) > > It pisses me off that old Morde died for this cancerous POS. Old Morde required way more thought and was more fun than this keyboard slamming uninteractive discount Darius. 100% agree. If only we could get have old Morde's kit with this Morde's visuals and voice over
: How is Mordekeiser's design even remotely balanced and not cancer?
52% winrate is broken now? There's a lot of champions that RIot needs to nerf now. Also, if you're complaining about current Morde, then you obviously didn't play against old Morde. Did everything this Morde does but way better, way more of a "raid boss" (haha...).
: > [{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WP4YBoNh,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-12-18T06:14:10.005+0000) > > But everyone gets a ton of AP and AD from the rune, what different does it make on him or AP champs specifically? The only issue with Conqueror is the healing it gives to everyone It gives more AP than AD and Morde can stack it faster than other champions. Singed has an almost 54% winrate with Conqueror so it's not just good on Morde. Cassiopeia uses it well too but she is ranged so doesn't give the full effect of the healing. It's great on melee AD champions like Yi and Kled. It's not the best rune for every champion but for the ones it is good on, it's too good. I think the stats it gives should be slightly reduced along with reducing the healing it gives.
It doesn't give more AP than AD in gold value. The gold value at max stacks for both AD and AP are almost equal, with the 30 AD being equal to 1080 gold and the 50 AP being equal to 1086 gold. Riot made sure that Conq was equal on both types of champions.
Lovelle (NA)
: Trundle and Morde are nowhere near the same, don't even try to compare them. Morde has almost zero bad matchups, while Trundle is a situational top pick at best. Their kits/scaling/counterplay are so vastly different that it baffles me how you could even attempt to rationalize comparing them.
Zero bad matchups? Darius, Fiora, Aatrox, Akali, Olaf, GP, and Pantheon all beat him early or scale harder than him. If you think he has 0 bad matchups, you've hardly played him.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WP4YBoNh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-17T14:48:43.385+0000) > > Q + E are skillshots, dodge them > > R you can QSS - if you don't have QSS you can just walk around until it's over, additionally you could pick GP who can cleanse it with his W. > > W is a self-shield which since you're going against Morde you're taking grevious wounds anyway, can't convert as easily into sustain as he'd like > > Mord's only strong if you allow him to be, same with people who complain about illaoi being busted op, just walk away 4head YEA JUST DODGE Q AND E EVERY 8 seconds. how hard is it ? illaoi i completly diffrent with morde WTF ? u can kill her tentacles and u can gank her and u can out sustain her and she has mana and she has very lower base STATS then morde . also her R has a counter play not like morde . dude wtf are u comparing
Morde's Q is on a 9-4 second CD, E is a huge 24 second cooldown at rank 1. It's extremely easy to bait/dodge both of them out and then punish him. Hell, whenever someone first picks Morde away from me, I just play Akali into him and get a free win. You can bait out or simply dodge every single Q or E he throws out
: Conqueror is not a fair and balanced rune. Morde's strength comes from getting free healing and a ton of AP from this rune, which is insanely easy to stack.
But everyone gets a ton of AP and AD from the rune, what different does it make on him or AP champs specifically? The only issue with Conqueror is the healing it gives to everyone
Crashyy (EUW)
: Mordekaiser is not a fair and balanced champion
Low cd abilities? Are you playing League of Legends, because all of his abilities have high cooldowns except his Q at max rank, especially compared to other champs because he can't build CDR effectively. He also has no in-combat healing, so how is he out healing your damage? Unless you mean Conqueror, then yeah, that's the rune being busted after going from 8% healing -> 15%
: You're looking at it the wrong way. All those things should get pulled with morde. HE's OP enough as is. his ult is basically just an auto win get fed mechanic as is.. Not only that, but you don't even need to see akali to wreck her in your ult... pop your AOE, now you get a permenant ping on her to see where she is, and start slamming your skillshots down ontop of her and laugh as there's nothing she can do to stop you...
Funny enough, Akali is one of Morde's hardest matchups. Whenever someone first picks him away from me, I just go Akali into him because he can't even hit her. Morde shouldn't be able to pop his passive on you in the Death Realm because he can't auto you and has to get lucky with his Q or E, which shouldn't hit anyways because you're invis and have 4 dashes.
: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
Morde R bug: What's supposed to happen: Target loses 10% of their atk spd, you gain that amount. What's happening instead: Target is losing 10% of YOUR atk spd, Morde is gaining 10% of their atk spd. You can easily reproduce it by taking Lethal Tempo and activating it, then ult someone. They lose a massive amount of atk spd this way.
: Patch 9.20 notes
So when is Morde's R gonna get fixed so it's actually taking the target's attack speed? Please fix this already
: > [{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FbEkfvzd,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-07T20:20:59.082+0000) > > Broken as in his code is broken? Yeah. > > As a character, like power-level in-game, not even close. 49% winrate now It's cause everyone plays morde, 9.4% popularity. If that's the case we could say Yasou is broken while he is strong.
> [{quoted}](name=Magnesium14,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FbEkfvzd,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-07T20:23:41.778+0000) > > It's cause everyone plays morde, 9.4% popularity. If that's the case we could say Yasou is broken while he is strong. Everyone plays Riven and she has a high winrate. Doesn't really work that way with this kind of logic. Morde just got over nerfed, and I don't even see him picked/banned in my elo anymore, sucks.
: Morde is broken anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Magnesium14,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FbEkfvzd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-07T02:09:01.511+0000) > > Morde is broken anyway. Broken as in his code is broken? Yeah. As a character, like power-level in-game, not even close. 49% winrate now
Comentários de Rioters
: Riot: Kha'Zix and Lee Sin deserve buffs in 9.15 and Shaco does not.
: Banning him is not an answer, no champion should be so broken that when unbanned its utterly unfair to play. We as a community (player base) shouldnt be force to ban someone because the fucking dev are morons
> [{quoted}](name=Average Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5xprAWE8,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-23T22:46:59.389+0000) > > Banning him is not an answer, no champion should be so broken that when unbanned its utterly unfair to play. We as a community (player base) shouldnt be force to ban someone because the fucking dev are morons You're complaining about a champion with a 50% winrate, while you play a champ who has historically had a high winrate (Ahri). Why even complain? You're also Plat... that doesn't give you much room to talk about what's broken. He's at the most balanced state since the rework launched
: You know new morde is broken when even tahm kench loses to him.
: He gets 25% magic pen for free, doesnt need any numbers, hes broken already
> [{quoted}](name=MiniJurista,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=50rZT13n,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-29T07:36:26.890+0000) > > He gets 25% magic pen for free, doesnt need any numbers, hes broken already He gets up to 25% magic pen, it scales with rank of that spell, starts at 5%. Darius gets 35% free armor pen on his pull, so is he broken too?
: PSA:Mordekaiser Rework
If you said people only use Lord Mordekaiser, then I would believe you. It's the only good skin
Kazekiba (NA)
: Here's to hoping Riot delayed the rework to put effort into the skins after the Morgana debacle, and that Dark Crusader graces us at long last. Here's to pretending there's a chance of a Traditional Mordekaiser. Really wish Riot would do this again. A brand new skin to sell for $15 with minimal changes, just rigging the new animations on it? Easy money to pay for work theyve already done. I understand Galio and Aatrox, but no reason we couldn't have gotten Traditional Irelia or Nunu.
> [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BigE980V,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-15T19:40:00.899+0000) > > Here's to hoping Riot delayed the rework to put effort into the skins after the Morgana debacle, and that Dark Crusader graces us at long last. > > Here's to pretending there's a chance of a Traditional Mordekaiser. Really wish Riot would do this again. A brand new skin to sell for $15 with minimal changes, just rigging the new animations on it? Easy money to pay for work theyve already done. I understand Galio and Aatrox, but no reason we couldn't have gotten Traditional Irelia or Nunu. Traditional Morde? He looks so bland normally though, just a spiky armored suit. I don't know if we wanna be reminded of his pizza feet
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: Duh. You can't put a rework 2 weeks after a new champion is out. See you in 4-6 weeks, Mordekaiser.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sWxHP0IA,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-05-12T09:55:08.525+0000) > > Duh. You can't put a rework 2 weeks after a new champion is out. > See you in 4-6 weeks, Mordekaiser. It happened with Kayn into Urgot
Naalith (NA)
: Pentakill Mordekaiser better still have the same helmet shape after they made those album covers, or there will be some high quality sodium thrown around. (We already know base skin Mordekaiser is missing the middle spike, which is fine, but Pentakill must remain the same as the figurehead for the AU band.)
It's already been confirmed that the updated Pentakill Mordekaiser will look like the one from the Mortal Reminder music video
Zac x Me (NA)
: Lol, look at the OP thinking that Rito will not butcher Mordekaiser and make him AD or AP only. AP Sion was also a thing once and then butchered. It's fine though as they are all cis male champions we can take away their priviledge of being able to freely choose what build to go for.
But Morde is already only AP, so it won't do much
: [GAMEPLAY] Tibbers does not hit inhibitors or Nexus, still hits turrets
If it's like Mordekaiser's ghosts, the only way to make the pet target an inhib or the Nexus is with alt + click, it's been like that forever.
: Add {{champion:51}} and {{champion:21}}
MF is fine, she got a model update, she just needs a new voice over right now to match her new personality
: What if the skin-line is based around champions serving Mordekaiser? If they keep an R similar in theme to his current R then I could see it being a thing.
: Is it just me or does our fabulous Morde kinda resemble the **Death Sworn** skin line? Like heavily.
Deathsworn skins are pretty much based off the Shadow Isles, so yeah, not too surprising.
: Where is malicious metal or a rioter? I’m either being really gullible and believing this or its legit.
https://dd.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/b32ibd/morde_vgu_ranked_split_emotes/eiwy1a8/?st=jtgft6i8&sh=6a248e7c Endlesspillows, he's the one working on Morde's VGU right now
: Dark enough to scare a guy who was inside the Immortal Bastion, eye-to-eyes with a demon.
Hmmm maybe something that used to be in the Immortal Bastion? Someone that actually built it? Someone who is stronger and looking to take it back? ;)
: What they should do is take out some power from the villain mechanic, like the 1% max health per auto/E tick, and give more power back into his base stats. He currently gets around 200 less hp and 20 less armor at 18 than other juggernauts, and he gets no scaling cooldowns (His W scaling is almost insignificant and on top of that it's maxed last, which is when Garen falls off). They also took 5 movespeed off swifties, 5 base movespeed, and 5% movespeed from his Q, which is pretty significant when you add them all together. The 1% max health from true damage just makes it unfair for people who are fighting against Garen, especially if they're a bruiser/tank. The villain mechanic was supposed to be a way for Garen to contribute to teamfights, since spells like exhaust would render him useless, and on top of that, Garen is supposed to be an anti-carry, meaning not a tank buster. Keeping the full true damage from the ult itself for villain, getting rid of the 1% extra damage, and giving some changes to his scaling base stats would be good for Garen. On top of this, I'd like to see more work with the W, the cooldown is just ridiculously long for no reason. I think it'd be a lot better to bring it down to something like 24/23/22/21/20 ---> 14/13/12/11/10, and then just reduce the duration of the damage reduction to last 2 seconds at all ranks, instead of scaling up to 6. That way Garen players have more chances to use the .75s damage reduction/tenacity instead of it being a one-time use in every teamfight. All of this is assuming that they aren't going to give him an actual rework, which I think he needs.
His HP and armor isn't that bad tbh. If you think it's bad, he still has** 80 - 200 (level 1 - 18)** more HP and **11 more armor at level 1 (2 less armor at 18)** than Mordekaiser, another juggernaut. He also gets a free **40 armor and magic resist** as the game goes on, just like how Morde gets "free" HP from his passive shield.
: Mordekaiser has the best lore and his rework should not change any of it, only enhance it.
It's already been confirmed that his lore is basically being enhanced, he's going to have a lot more character. Maybe we'll get more of his origins
: Why the skillshot? Why not just buff his passive's AP ratio or something considering its the core thing about him.
His Q just feels useless and it might make people start maxing it instead of W
: Sylas should have his heal looked at
I mean, Morde's heal is 100 / 170 / 240 / 310 / 380 (+ 60% AP), but I don't see anyone complaining. Maybe because he doesn't have 3 dashes and CC, but he still has a really strong heal. I think they should nerf Sylas's heal and buff his Q up tbh
Ahris (NA)
: Sylas is a very squishy melee apc who has no escapes unlike ekko. I feel the feel is totally justified, i feel it should be stronger as it is a very powerful comeback tool in a short duel.
Sylas E is a dash, and you can use the chains part to go over walls to minions/monsters. So he does have an escape, but not as good as Ekkos
: what champion loses early game to jax outside of pre 6 nasus and ranged tops?
{{champion:82}} counterstrike blocks your Q and reduces your W and E damage. You also can't chase him or run away if he decides to fight you
: {{champion:82}} any thoughts on my man. Or is no one playing him at all. I haven't had the option yet. But i can imagine it not being fun. Since everyone outranges him and the game mode actively fucks his sustain.
He's awful in URF, but they better buff things like Irelia who are already too strong in this mode. People are sleeping on AP Irelia
: I'M SO HAPPY, CAUSE Y'ALL MORDE MAINS WILL FINALLY SHUT UP ABOUT IT GEEZ, THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A RELIEF
Kind of hard not to complain all this time when he's literally been ignored for over 3 years. This is great
: Reav3 commented on the morde main subreddit
This is what we've been waiting for. Come forward, Mordekaiser, it's your turn!
DUDE BRO (NA)
: https://i.gyazo.com/ae9f8fd883981e535d7080fff6ced0bc.png You'll notice those champs have updates coming soon which could be visual upgrades. There's a good chance their updates have been in development (or planned) for years, and so they'll prob receive skins after their update. (Waste of time otherwise, making a skin and having to re-make it after the update) Reksai on the other hand, maybe they either have no good ideas, she's not popular, or her last skins didn't sell well enough. I personally have not seen her in uh.. years.
> [{quoted}](name=DUDE BRO,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EqdWA7Q5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-22T17:03:37.229+0000) > > https://i.gyazo.com/ae9f8fd883981e535d7080fff6ced0bc.png > > You'll notice those champs have updates coming soon which could be visual upgrades. There's a good chance their updates have been in development (or planned) for years, and so they'll prob receive skins after their update. (Waste of time otherwise, making a skin and having to re-make it after the update) > > Reksai on the other hand, maybe they either have no good ideas, she's not popular, or her last skins didn't sell well enough. I personally have not seen her in uh.. years. Then why did Mundo, Fiddlesticks, and Amumu get a skin recently? Just seems like a bad excuse
: Please. Ha
Hue hue, we're all waiting ~~IM~~PATIENTLY
Lyaso (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Xzq,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=J8tOzbOu,comment-id=000600000005,timestamp=2019-01-22T20:18:58.380+0000) > > This week we will see Dr.Mundo in the roadmap ?! *fingers crossed* I don't think Mundo won't even get his VGU this year. He got a skin recently and they said that they won't release skins for champions that will get a VGU in the near future. Same counts for Fiddlestick.
He also got all new VFX on his abilities and a new Q animation
: > [{quoted}](name=Seba7290,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=qdXNf7YE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-19T00:57:51.135+0000) > > How can you honestly say Mordekaiser doesn’t need a rework? Not the guy you're replying to, but... Because he already had one? lol Is Mord the new Ryze?
Morde had a class update, Ryze has had a few reworks and VGU. Mordekaiser has been in need of an actual VGU Imagine if Riot just went with a class update for old Poppy and Yorick instead of a VGU. That wouldn't have solved anything and they would still look and play like garbage.
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