: Does CE-5 Work? I want to try it but im scared. What if i get possessed if spirits exist. Edit: 2 mins into this i was really feeling it and heard a whisper. This is scary im done.
> [{quoted}](name=Plymix007,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-12-26T04:15:52.240+0000) > > Does CE-5 Work? I want to try it but im scared. What if i get possessed if spirits exist. > > Edit: 2 mins into this i was really feeling it and heard a whisper. This is scary im done. This is the second part of my reply: Personally because I was raised as a Christian, I believe in God, but not necessarily the religiosity of the bible, but more so the emphasis of benevolence, reaping what you sow, compassion, and charity, concepts similar to that, which is truly what's important with faith in general, not just Christianity, but I'd identify myself as a mix of that and being agnostic with strong beliefs residing in Christianity, but people would probably just want to label me as Christian anyway even though I'm a bit more complicated than that. Now because I believe in God, every time I do a CE-5 I say a few silent prayers to myself right before I do it, it's not part of the CE-5 protocols, but it's something I do personally. In one of the few prayers I ask is I ask God, "Please let no harm come to me through doing this, and if do end up experiencing some type of suffering, that I will do my best to accept it and try to learn and grow from it and continue to persevere." And after prayer, it's essential to believe and expect with all your heart that what you pray for has been heard and will come true, and after that prayer I let go of the fears I have, and go into doing this with a sense of peace and acceptance of what may happen as a result, and that God is with me throughout, even if what may happen might cause me to suffer. Also I want to point out that the closest I've come to suffering through doing a CE-5 is being in the cold too long and not dressing warm enough but deciding to stay longer because I wanted to stay and see more amazing ways they would manifest for me...it's important to dress warm in the cold...especially when you are sitting still for a few hours haha, and that because of how they choose to manifest for me is really fascinating and it's just inspirational to see in general. Also Somewhat related to that particular prayer that I do, is there is a quote that I learned that is from the Dalai Lama. "If you have fear of some pain or suffering, you should examine whether there is anything you can do about it. If you can, there is no need to worry about it; if you cannot do anything, then there is also no need to worry." A way to interpret that quote is fear is natural and useful, but at the same time after you have acknowledged that fear and have done what is necessary with regard to that, to let go of the fear and worry after that because it is only going to do you harm and be a distraction at that point, ESPECIALLY when the nature of doing a particular thing is to be in a calm and meditative state. I need to emphasize that The E.T. beings that come to visit have communication systems that pick up on thought and intent, they are able to understand how you feel and the thoughts you are projecting towards them. On that note I want to say that if you attempt to do this again, remember to specifically in your mind to project the thought of what YOU are ready for and what you are ready to experience. At the very least if you've followed the protocols properly and are not coming from a place of fear and are in a peaceful and benevolent state of mind and have the right mentality towards them, they will manifest for you, and comparing to my experiences most likely you will often clearly see a fast moving light streak across the night sky and vanish out of nowhere, it's comparable to a comet but has distinct difference such as not having a tail that a comet has, and sometimes abruptly change direction mid flight, and will seemingly vanish after appearing, they are usually brief and for about 1-3 second durations they will do this, but sometimes it will be longer, and will appear at various angles such as streaking directly above you or going upward into the night sky. So again I don't know exactly what you experienced, I don't know what whispers you heard, but depending on where you were doing this, I would definitely leave too if I was hearing whispers and it's smart and rational of you to do that, so don't feel bad about that, it was the right thing to do considering the circumstances especially if you were somewhere in which there would not be other people, and there might be someone there being nosy or simply trying to bother or harm you in some way. Also don't feel compelled to do this again if you truly don't want to. You use your own judgement where this is concerned, this isn't something you should do if you don't truly want to learn how to do this, and aren't passionate about it, but keep in mind that the experiences I have had in a CE-5 are amazing and inspiring, and have helped me in life in general to try to improve myself more through various aspects, and it's also especially inspiring with what I have learned about in regard to meditation, and the studies of the nature of consciousness. That's partly why I hardly play League anymore, especially recently, because I've been busy with more important things and am inspired and more determined and find it more fulfilling in improving myself in various aspects, especially with regards to my health. I hope to hear back from you, because I'd really like to get in detail your thoughts on this. Also please I encourage you if you truly did learn how to do a CE-5, don't talk about the specifics of how to do it on here. Understandably people might be curious, but there is a prerequisite and order to certain things and a CE-5 is one of them. People who don't understand certain concepts or haven't even watched the "Unacknowledged" documentary will most likely be put off by it, with a few exceptions of some finding it interesting and it making sense, but I believe it's best if you want to talk about CE-5 specifics to add me on League and we can talk about it there. If other people reading this want to learn how to do it it's generally best they get the source material to do so. Also one more thing just in case, if by any chance you are below the age of 18, please discuss this with you parents before doing it again, and see their thoughts on it after they've learned about the documentary and how to do a CE-5. If your parents don't like it then, considering your still not an adult yet perhaps put something like this on hold, and personally I'd recommend learning meditation and the benefits of it instead for now, and start meditating regularly. I'd personally recommend mindfulness meditation to start, even if it's just 10 minutes a day that you do it every morning, it can be very helpful. Meditation is like a muscle the more you do it the more beneficial it becomes, but it's also important that whatever meditation technique that you decide to practice that you are doing it properly and have a good relaxed focus in general. It's unfortunate that happening in your first attempt but try not to let it bother you too much, and try to think rationally as to what might have made that whisper. Even if you don't want to do a CE-5 again I'd like to better understand your experience, and how well you understand how to do a CE-5 as well as what you thought about the documentary. I look forward to hear a reply back from you soon. I'm very willing to help you with this, especially considering your the first person who's attempted to try this that has posted on the discussion I made, yet you had an unfortunate first time doing it, and is also why I put so much effort into this response and wrote so much. It's understandably discouraging and I want to give my insights and shed some light on a few things that you might not have learned yet about it, if you are still willing to get a better understanding of this. Please feel free to add me on League if you have any questions about this and want to talk about it. If not I understand. I want to end letting you and anyone else know that the signs of the government disclosing E.T. beings and certain advanced technologies are fairly prevalent now, and the year of 2019 should be really interesting, and many people are likely in for a big surprise, both good and bad, but I think it will be mostly good. I have much hope for the near future. Revolutionary changes and "discoveries" might soon be taking place. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
: Does CE-5 Work? I want to try it but im scared. What if i get possessed if spirits exist. Edit: 2 mins into this i was really feeling it and heard a whisper. This is scary im done.
> [{quoted}](name=Plymix007,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-12-26T04:15:52.240+0000) > > Does CE-5 Work? I want to try it but im scared. What if i get possessed if spirits exist. > > Edit: 2 mins into this i was really feeling it and heard a whisper. This is scary im done. I have a two part response to you because I want to discuss this in depth in a fairly complete way, and sadly it won't let me fit the entire amount I have written into one reply. Please note both parts of the reply are important. Yes a CE-5 does work, and is remarkably effective. First of all I want to thank you for the courage you've shown trying to do this, and having a fairly unbiased way of thinking towards this. Not many people are like this and you should have a sense of pride for attempting to do a CE-5; however after reading your post, I also feel a sense of sad irony from what I can interpret with what you wrote. This is going to sound like I'm lecturing you and sorry if I sound arrogant and trying to presume a lot, but this is me trying to give my honest thoughts on this, as well as get an idea of the circumstances surrounding your experience. BUT I want to point out that what you did was right, if you heard some whispering then just leave, because again I don't know the particular details, and circumstances of this, but perhaps that was someone else in the area being nosey nearby trying to observe what you're doing. That's one of the questions I want to ask you below. There should not be anything trying to make you feel afraid or threaterned while doing this, and the first thing that comes to my mind is another person was there just trying to be a nuisance. First I have three questions for you, because I don't want to assume certain things. Then after the questions I need to clarify what I suspect you might have done wrong in your first valiant attempt to do a CE-5, and again much respect for trying despite you being afraid, but the irony that I mentioned above, being afraid is the problem, I'll explain in my last paragraph. First question I have to considering what you wrote, did you learn how to do a CE-5 through the application on Dr. Greer's website or through another one of the products he was offering, and did you really read it thoroughly and truly learn it? The CE-5 app is the most reasonable one considering it's the lowest cost being 7$ and relatively cheap yet also effective and is what I have used in all of the CE-5's I've done. If you didn't learn how to do a CE-5 properly, and tried to do it based on what I have said on this thread, please understand there is so much more to a CE-5 than what I have written here, and I really hope that you didn't try to do your own interpreted version of it based just on what is on this thread. But if you truly bought the app or another training program from his site to learn this thoroughly then disregard this question Second question is WHERE did you do this? Often times I have done a CE-5, and the place I do it is in an a huge open field that is at least a quater of a mile away from residences and is fairly private. An ideal place is one where there are very few distractions nearby. Even where I do it isn't perfect because often times I'll hear branches rustling in the trees nearby and leaves rustling because of the animals scurrying around and sometimes it's a fairly loud, but I got used to it and I have to train myself to ignore that and fortunately it's not that frequent. It's Winter right now so I hardly hear anything like that the last few times I've done it since it was getting colder out and less animals tend to be out making noise. Depending on the environment of where you are doing this it's smart to be somewhat familiar of what typically goes on there, such as animals, or even people may even go there sometimes even if it is a relatively private location. Also why it needs to be somewhere private is if people see you doing this and are ignorant of this they will likely presume certain things if they saw you and naturally start talking about it, which is what I suspect is the whisper you might have heard, especially if it was at night which is when you should be doing this and the CE-5 protocals state this. Last question is you said you heard whispers, so because I don't know the particular circumstances of where you were doing it and what the environment was, what exactly did the whispers sound like? Do you think it's plausible it was a person nearby that you were unable to see because it was dark or they were hiding? Keep in mind I understand if you don't want to try this again because of your first experience and it's really unfortunate, but I want to give you a thorough explanation of what I strongly suspect you did wrong in the CE-5 considering what you've wrote on here. Now first thing I suspect, and again I have to presume because I wasn't there with you and there's very little I can ascertain from your response with the amount you wrote, and so I want to ask did you do this in a private area in which people would not be able to notice what you were doing, or at least it would be very unlikely? This could very well have been someone or a gruop of people being nosey or curious and they were whispering about you, but again I don't know the specific circumstances and details of where you were. Finding a good location for this is important, and it explains that in the app. But again if you heard someone whispering it's understandable and reasonable for you to leave, and it's important not to be bothered while doing it and you don't want people who don't understand what you're doing to be there distracting you. I've never heard whispers doing this, never, and that's likely do to me extensively learning how to do this properly and reading the entire training app, and that I was able to find a good location away from distractions that is private, and because I DON'T go into a CE-5 being afraid, I go into them hoping for something great to happen, with a sense of excitement and determined focus. Now, you wrote,"Does CE-5 Work? I want to try it but im scared. What if i get possessed if spirits exist." It's fine to have some doubt in it if you haven't done it before, that's completely understandable, but again the part when you mention worrying abuot being possesed if spirits exist, leading to the superstition, preconceptions, and irrational fears that people may associate with this. I can't emphasize this enough, but this is a huge red flag, and I really want to explain this so you understand. It's absolutely CRUCIAL that you are NOT afraid when you are doing a CE-5, the app emphasizes this when learning how to do a CE-5. When you are afraid, first of all you are not in a deep meditative state, and you aren't even in a state of having a mild calm which is at the very least where you should be mentally and emotionally. It's absolutely essential that you are in a relaxed calm state and not coming from a place of fear while doing this, even though you made a courageous attempt to do this from what you've said in your responses, to have courage means pushing through the fear you have, meaning you are scared and that's a problem, but understand you don't need to be absolutely fearless, personally I was nervous and a bit afraid the first two times I did mine, and it's understandable to be somewhat scared when doing this at first, but you have to do your best to let go of that fear, remain calm, and do your best to let go of what's troubling you and go into a relaxed meditative state. You have to try to let go of irrational fears that might be pulling at you through any preconceptions you have or your mind naturally will sway towards fearing something you don't understand or doing something your not used to doing and nervous about. I'm sure you've probably heard the cliche saying, "people fear what they don't understand." Feeling this is reasonable and understandable, but that's part of what you will be overcoming when you do this. The E.T.'s that come to visit don't want to scare you, that's why during a certain part of the protocals you specifically project the thought and intent in which you ask them to manifest, if it is safe to do so, and to let them know what you are ready in terms of how they will manifest. Also it is encouraged in a CE-5 to do it with other people and not alone, and especially people you love and have a good connection with. even though it can be done alone it's more effective in a group. I can elaborate on that more if you want to chat about it later. The first time I did it was with one other person but most of the times I've done it is by myself. Also having someone else with you that you trust and on good terms with should help alleviate some of the fear you might have of this, and especially if you are unlucky enough to run into someone who might be harrassing because of what your doing. Even though it's more effective in groups, you can do it alone and still have many great things happen. Not going to elaborate on why that is though, if people are curious they can learn about it on their own through the links I give and how to do a CE-5, as well as add me on League to chat.
Ramaero (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:28:39.876+0000) > > Alright, let me ask you a question: Why you? Why would these people go out of their way to contact _you_ so many times with virtually no results? Surely they’re intelligent enough to know that their endeavors are wasted on a mere civilian. Ask yourself, “What do I have that they want?” Yes, you are being tricked. > > I’m going to try to explain this as best as I can without being too explicitly religious. Each of us has a part of us that exists outside the standard three dimensions (it’s still governed by time, though). For lack of a better term, we’ll call this extradimensional part of ourselves a “spirit.” One spirit plus one body equals one “soul.” Anything less than a complete soul does not truly live - emotions and senses are dulled greatly, and some are downright impossible. These beings who you are trying to communicate with exist only as spirits, and they are jealous of you because you have a body and thus can experience all life has to offer. They want to make you as miserable as them, or in their best-case scenario hijack your body. They know all the little tricks to fool you, illusions definitely being one of them. After all, they were taught by the Master of Lies himself, who is among their number. > > There is, however, one of these beings who is benevolent and will offer good advice, but you’ll only ever hear it as a soft voice and will never see it. Its presence is definitely detectable, though, but it requires a calm mind and surroundings. Sound familiar? > > The _real_ extraterrestrials exist as souls, just like us, and are thus capable of logic, sense, and emotion to approximately the same degree we are. They too are targeted by these jealous beings. > > So, if you are engaged in both physical and mental communication with the same entity at the same time, you are being tricked. > > Also, I refuse to watch that video guide - it’s the exact same thing as knowing how to work a Ouija board. Both accomplish the same thing, which is calling one or more of these fully-extradimensional beings to your location. I’ve run into more than my fair share of them naturally, and I don’t want to even know how to call one. That knowledge is much too harmful. > > This is a very real danger. Take it from someone who has received a gift from that benevolent being - the gift of being able to see its ill-intentioned brethren. Listen only for that one still, small voice and shut out all others. I’d offer more advice, but again it’s religious in nature and thus not allowed here. Even what’s being discussed in this post and these comments could be labeled as “superstitious” and thus “religious,” and potentially removed by moderation. > > Anyway, good luck, and take care. There is much all of us don't know. I am not claiming that what you are saying is false, from how you have explained it even before this reply I suspected this was where you were going with this, and I am not saying there isn't a risk of doing what I am doing in a CE-5. As far as religion goes I am an agnostic with lingering Christian believes, particularly with the morals of Christianity, so from a religious standpoint I somewhat grasp what you are saying. Now the only problem I have with what you are saying with which I have to disagree with you is talking in absolute. For example you saying," So, if you are engaged in both physical and mental communication with the same entity at the same time, you are being tricked." I have yet to have had mental communication with any being so far, assuming you mean something like telepathy which is something that Dr. Greer has said can occur. They can respond to my thoughts and intentions like I mentioned before, but so far I have never come across them saying," hey how's it going, nice to meet ya," or something like that, but with what I have learned with whats possible when making contact it can happen. Now back to saying if both physical and mental communication at the same time happens you are being tricked, I don't believe that would be the case for all occurrences, and I believe that depends on the level of discernment of the individual to see through that. Now I am specifically saying that is a belief, that is my speculation given the knowledge I have and what I suspect to be the case. My general rational with this entire subject is we simply do not know all there is to know with beings from another world or dimension, but we know enough to make certain what I would call safe inferences. I can infer that I have not been harmed once during the 7 times I have done a CE-5. I can infer from what Dr. Greer has discussed regarding this entire subject he rationalizes it very well. You asked me why these beings would contact a civilian and that their efforts are wasted on a civilian, Not necessarily. The goal of a CE-5 is to for people, normal civilians such as myself, to act as ambassadors to our world and invite them here to make peaceful contact, and to show to them that we are "ready". By ready I mean to show to them we have the awareness and understanding to acknowledge their existence in a peaceful way, and to show we are willing to coexist with them in a peaceful way. Now bearing that in mind, ask yourself this. Hypothetically let's say 50% of the people in the entire world were to do a CE-5 on the same day, while bearing in mind that in doing a CE-5 that part of the beings that do come are Extraterrestrial being's that are similar to us in the sense that they operate in 3rd/4th dimension(and by part I mean the large majority of them being E.T. beings given my understanding of who is visiting us), and want a peaceful and collaborative coexistence between our civilizations. They would take that as a means that humanity is ready for the truth and will no longer operate in such a subtle way, in addition to official disclosure of extraterrestrial beings who are collaborating with the part of the government that is NOT corrupt and working to make that very thing happen. They visit us to "wake us up" in a sense. Granted after my 1st successful CE-5 I was already awake honestly. But with my 2nd successful one and the 3rd, it inspired me with how often they would visit and how long they would do so. Which led to me even more wanting to share this more with others so they are aware of this, and so in turn they too can share it with others, and so on and so forth and continue to unveil something that is truly remarkable and will add so much more meaning and inspiration to many peoples lives. Once the number of people who are aware of this reaches a certain threshold, then the E.T. beings will deem it safe to do something more abrupt, and essentially stop revealing themselves only to the people who are acting as " peaceful civilian ambassadors" to other interstellar civilizations. The E.T. beings that respond to a CE-5, as far as I can infer based on my perspective, and how I rationalize the knowledge I have acquired regarding this entire subject, the E.T. beings responding to a CE-5 are benevolent and want to help our civilization to prosper and flourish, and to reduce suffering, which is largely caused by the significant amount of corruption in our government and corporations. And to people thinking I am talking about Trump and hate bandwagon going on in our country right now on that guy which really I speculate is a distraction, no I am talking about people that you hardly hear about in the news, the people who hardly get any publicity, being at the center of that corruption. The documentary goes into detail in this, but I wanted to at least say that much so you can better interpret and understand what I am trying to say without going too far into a political discussion; there is a great deal going on behind the scenes that we the people are not hearing on the news right now regarding trying to bring an end to this extremely profound and surreptitious corruption. I won't claim I know everything, and I am not saying there is not truth in what you are describing, but from my understanding of this with regard to what I have learned and how I logically see this, that your standpoint is not at the center of what is being done in a CE-5, and that you making claims about something that you have not tried to truly understand, and by not trying to disprove the documentary, and the evidence I have been providing, is a very biased way of thinking. That's why I asked people to first try to understand what is brought up in the documentary, then try to disprove, and not say things along the lines of, "Also, I refuse to watch that video guide - it’s the exact same thing as knowing how to work a Ouija board." I know it's difficult with the limited time we have to look into things like this and try to truly understand something before discrediting it, and it's even more so if we already have strong beliefs and those beliefs are in opposition with actually trying to truly discern if something is legitimate. That's largely part of the problem, there are too many beliefs and less facts. The documentary shares facts, gives legitimate evidence, and then the rest of Dr. Greer's work that extends from that and towards theory, speculation, and inference have sufficient evidence to help support it, such as with what a CE-5 entails and the results people have. #The cliche, " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink," but honestly if the water tastes bad just spit it out, at least test the water first before looking at it and deciding not to drink. And that's in essence what this thread was meant to be, for people to put aside their beliefs and preconceptions on this subject, and TO TRULY TEST the documentary, you don't even need to bother with a CE-5 if it still interferes with your beliefs, but there is truth in the documentary and in the evidence it provides. What is to fear in trying to understand a documentary? You seem like I nice person and have good intentions. But I'm so disappointed with the amount of assumptions people make without trying to truly understand a topic.
> You seem like I nice person and have good intentions. But I'm so disappointed with the amount of assumptions people make without trying to truly understand a topic. Typo I meant to say a nice person not I, sigh need to proof read better when I'm rushing to type this out, what I meant to say was: You seem like a nice person and have good intentions. But I'm so disappointed with the amount of assumptions people make without trying to truly understand a topic. Also if you do decide to take the time to learn, I can't stress enough to watch the documentary first before you look any any of Dr. Greer's other work; additionally the focus of the documentary isn't even about CE-5 and how meditation is involved with making contact. It's centered on discussing Extraterrestrial beings and and how that is connected with revolutionary technology that will significantly improve the way that we live, and that is specifically on the suppression of free energy technology that will replace oil and gas and the significantly substantial economic structure surrounding that, and that technology is being suppressed by people who are corrupt in our government and corporations, and that there are those in the government who are fighting to end that corruption. There is a significant power struggle going on and the mainstream news does not sincerely discuss the scope and magnitude of the contention transpiring. The documentary does not explain how to do a CE-5, that is taught elsewhere. It discusses and provides strong evidence for what is going on politically that revolves around Extraterrestrials beings and UFO's, connected with revolutionary technology being suppressed, and corruption at the center of that.
Evangele (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ramaero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-12-05T07:42:51.642+0000) > >snip {{champion:267}} I watched it previously! I have a love/hate relationship with this kind of stuff as it scares the bajeezuz out of me but also Im super interested in it. I definitely haven't done as much research as you have on the whole thing but it's a weird fascination I have. I know there are a lot of people and documents that claim they are a benevolent viewer/helper situation but I always remember being terrified of them from books like Communion and movies based on them and etc. "True stories" that are obviously embellished but always scares me, to this day and I am a full adult human being lol. Doesnt help I guess that one of the first movies I watched "Fire in the Sky" was scary af and then our power shut off in the middle of a scary part. Whew. Either way, it's definitely interesting stuff, just scares me a lot as well. I don't believe Ive ever experienced anything personally. Just pop culture versions make me scared.
> [{quoted}](name=Evangele,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T07:50:34.680+0000) > > {{champion:267}} I watched it previously! I have a love/hate relationship with this kind of stuff as it scares the bajeezuz out of me but also Im super interested in it. I definitely haven't done as much research as you have on the whole thing but it's a weird fascination I have. > > I know there are a lot of people and documents that claim they are a benevolent viewer/helper situation but I always remember being terrified of them from books like Communion and movies based on them and etc. "True stories" that are obviously embellished but always scares me, to this day and I am a full adult human being lol. Doesnt help I guess that one of the first movies I watched "Fire in the Sky" was scary af and then our power shut off in the middle of a scary part. Whew. > > Either way, it's definitely interesting stuff, just scares me a lot as well. I don't believe Ive ever experienced anything personally. Just pop culture versions make me scared. He did not discuss this in the documentary but in another video, in which entertainment from movies aren't necessarily random, and a part of it is to condition us in a certain way. On that note there are movies with the good scary aliens, and the ones in which there is peace and collaboration like in Star Trek and Star Wars, or Mass Effect if you've played the game. Also highly recommend Mass Effect, best sci-fi game I've played honestly. Anyway With regard to the false flag that he discuses, he emphasizes about that more outside of that documentary in that it's to help to condition us so that when official disclosure of E.T. beings does happen, there will be the "good" aliens and the "bad" aliens, and the movies and the way we have been conditioned will help in that potential propaganda even if those "bad" aliens are actually good, and perhaps fuel prejudices among a certain type even though it is truly unjustified. Dr. Greer mentions that as being a scenario corrupt people in power will try to push for. Anyway I just waned to mention that since you were talking about the movies lol, I can definitely relate.
: fake news
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Brad Japan,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:09:08.345+0000) > > fake news It's interesting that you mention fake news, yet I am sure people who took the time to watch the documentary know that it is not fake, and know that the first EVER audit of the pentagon that was completed this year on 11/15/18 alludes to what is discussed in the "Unacknowledged" documentary, and the documentary brought up why that audit was being done in the first place, before the Audit even began last year in 2017. There is indeed fake news, and also news that is not fake to distract people from what is going on behind the scenes, which you can imagine is profoundly monumental, especially right now. If you find something fake in that documentary news related, I would love for you to tell me exactly what it is specifically, rather than just saying fake news.
Evangele (NA)
: {{champion:267}} Plz no, this is terrifying for me. Im for real spooked by the thought of aliens. This doc was scary and stayed with me for a while when I watched it, but interesting. Thread is interesting too. gg, free bump.
> [{quoted}](name=Evangele,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-12-05T07:18:08.985+0000) > > {{champion:267}} Plz no, this is terrifying for me. Im for real spooked by the thought of aliens. > > This doc was scary and stayed with me for a while when I watched it, but interesting. Thread is interesting too. gg, free bump. Wow thanks I appreciate it you giving it a shot. Honestly for me the scary part wasn't so much the aliens but the corruption. Dr. Greer emphasizes the E.T. beings are really trying to help us. He elaborate more about that on his youtube channel videos, and in the 1st documentary before that which is on his youtube channel also which is called "Sirius," and was made I think 2 years before "Unacknowledged" was. In Sirius he discusses E.T. beings a lot more. Being scared is understandable at first but it's kinda the normal initial response for many people. I'm more the kind that is fascinated by them. Anyway thanks so much for at least watching it and seeing what it's about, your the first person to actually say you've watched it and your a Herald. I'm genuinely super happy and surprised right now. I'm really glad you found it interesting. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:28:39.876+0000) > > --snip-- I think you're in the clear as far as moderation goes. It's always interesting on the boards when trying to explain doctrine in a way that the person understands it and doesn't violate the rules. I'm LDS too, btw.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-12-04T17:52:17.529+0000) > > I think you're in the clear as far as moderation goes. It's always interesting on the boards when trying to explain doctrine in a way that the person understands it and doesn't violate the rules. > > I'm LDS too, btw. Are you a moderator? If so thanks for letting him discuss this I appreciate it. Is there any chance you watched or plan to watch the documentary and see what it's about? Sadly it seems like at most only two people have seen it if I go off of who voted, and that is assuming the person who voted no didn't just do that purely as another means of downvoting. If you both are LDS I think it would be interesting to see if you both would respond in a different way even though you're of the same faith, and with what reason your impressions of the documentary would be different. I'd really appreciate if you out of many others who haven't tried watching it to at least try and see what it's about even though you might be skeptical. Considering your influence on the boards and likely people would have more respect towards what you think about it with regard to the amount of time and effort you've put on the boards.
Alzon (NA)
: Alright, let me ask you a question: Why you? Why would these people go out of their way to contact _you_ so many times with virtually no results? Surely they’re intelligent enough to know that their endeavors are wasted on a mere civilian. Ask yourself, “What do I have that they want?” Yes, you are being tricked. I’m going to try to explain this as best as I can without being too explicitly religious. Each of us has a part of us that exists outside the standard three dimensions (it’s still governed by time, though). For lack of a better term, we’ll call this extradimensional part of ourselves a “spirit.” One spirit plus one body equals one “soul.” Anything less than a complete soul does not truly live - emotions and senses are dulled greatly, and some are downright impossible. These beings who you are trying to communicate with exist only as spirits, and they are jealous of you because you have a body and thus can experience all life has to offer. They want to make you as miserable as them, or in their best-case scenario hijack your body. They know all the little tricks to fool you, illusions definitely being one of them. After all, they were taught by the Master of Lies himself, who is among their number. There is, however, one of these beings who is benevolent and will offer good advice, but you’ll only ever hear it as a soft voice and will never see it. Its presence is definitely detectable, though, but it requires a calm mind and surroundings. Sound familiar? The _real_ extraterrestrials exist as souls, just like us, and are thus capable of logic, sense, and emotion to approximately the same degree we are. They too are targeted by these jealous beings. So, if you are engaged in both physical and mental communication with the same entity at the same time, you are being tricked. Also, I refuse to watch that video guide - it’s the exact same thing as knowing how to work a Ouija board. Both accomplish the same thing, which is calling one or more of these fully-extradimensional beings to your location. I’ve run into more than my fair share of them naturally, and I don’t want to even know how to call one. That knowledge is much too harmful. This is a very real danger. Take it from someone who has received a gift from that benevolent being - the gift of being able to see its ill-intentioned brethren. Listen only for that one still, small voice and shut out all others. I’d offer more advice, but again it’s religious in nature and thus not allowed here. Even what’s being discussed in this post and these comments could be labeled as “superstitious” and thus “religious,” and potentially removed by moderation. Anyway, good luck, and take care.
> [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-12-04T16:28:39.876+0000) > > Alright, let me ask you a question: Why you? Why would these people go out of their way to contact _you_ so many times with virtually no results? Surely they’re intelligent enough to know that their endeavors are wasted on a mere civilian. Ask yourself, “What do I have that they want?” Yes, you are being tricked. > > I’m going to try to explain this as best as I can without being too explicitly religious. Each of us has a part of us that exists outside the standard three dimensions (it’s still governed by time, though). For lack of a better term, we’ll call this extradimensional part of ourselves a “spirit.” One spirit plus one body equals one “soul.” Anything less than a complete soul does not truly live - emotions and senses are dulled greatly, and some are downright impossible. These beings who you are trying to communicate with exist only as spirits, and they are jealous of you because you have a body and thus can experience all life has to offer. They want to make you as miserable as them, or in their best-case scenario hijack your body. They know all the little tricks to fool you, illusions definitely being one of them. After all, they were taught by the Master of Lies himself, who is among their number. > > There is, however, one of these beings who is benevolent and will offer good advice, but you’ll only ever hear it as a soft voice and will never see it. Its presence is definitely detectable, though, but it requires a calm mind and surroundings. Sound familiar? > > The _real_ extraterrestrials exist as souls, just like us, and are thus capable of logic, sense, and emotion to approximately the same degree we are. They too are targeted by these jealous beings. > > So, if you are engaged in both physical and mental communication with the same entity at the same time, you are being tricked. > > Also, I refuse to watch that video guide - it’s the exact same thing as knowing how to work a Ouija board. Both accomplish the same thing, which is calling one or more of these fully-extradimensional beings to your location. I’ve run into more than my fair share of them naturally, and I don’t want to even know how to call one. That knowledge is much too harmful. > > This is a very real danger. Take it from someone who has received a gift from that benevolent being - the gift of being able to see its ill-intentioned brethren. Listen only for that one still, small voice and shut out all others. I’d offer more advice, but again it’s religious in nature and thus not allowed here. Even what’s being discussed in this post and these comments could be labeled as “superstitious” and thus “religious,” and potentially removed by moderation. > > Anyway, good luck, and take care. There is much all of us don't know. I am not claiming that what you are saying is false, from how you have explained it even before this reply I suspected this was where you were going with this, and I am not saying there isn't a risk of doing what I am doing in a CE-5. As far as religion goes I am an agnostic with lingering Christian believes, particularly with the morals of Christianity, so from a religious standpoint I somewhat grasp what you are saying. Now the only problem I have with what you are saying with which I have to disagree with you is talking in absolute. For example you saying," So, if you are engaged in both physical and mental communication with the same entity at the same time, you are being tricked." I have yet to have had mental communication with any being so far, assuming you mean something like telepathy which is something that Dr. Greer has said can occur. They can respond to my thoughts and intentions like I mentioned before, but so far I have never come across them saying," hey how's it going, nice to meet ya," or something like that, but with what I have learned with whats possible when making contact it can happen. Now back to saying if both physical and mental communication at the same time happens you are being tricked, I don't believe that would be the case for all occurrences, and I believe that depends on the level of discernment of the individual to see through that. Now I am specifically saying that is a belief, that is my speculation given the knowledge I have and what I suspect to be the case. My general rational with this entire subject is we simply do not know all there is to know with beings from another world or dimension, but we know enough to make certain what I would call safe inferences. I can infer that I have not been harmed once during the 7 times I have done a CE-5. I can infer from what Dr. Greer has discussed regarding this entire subject he rationalizes it very well. You asked me why these beings would contact a civilian and that their efforts are wasted on a civilian, Not necessarily. The goal of a CE-5 is to for people, normal civilians such as myself, to act as ambassadors to our world and invite them here to make peaceful contact, and to show to them that we are "ready". By ready I mean to show to them we have the awareness and understanding to acknowledge their existence in a peaceful way, and to show we are willing to coexist with them in a peaceful way. Now bearing that in mind, ask yourself this. Hypothetically let's say 50% of the people in the entire world were to do a CE-5 on the same day, while bearing in mind that in doing a CE-5 that part of the beings that do come are Extraterrestrial being's that are similar to us in the sense that they operate in 3rd/4th dimension(and by part I mean the large majority of them being E.T. beings given my understanding of who is visiting us), and want a peaceful and collaborative coexistence between our civilizations. They would take that as a means that humanity is ready for the truth and will no longer operate in such a subtle way, in addition to official disclosure of extraterrestrial beings who are collaborating with the part of the government that is NOT corrupt and working to make that very thing happen. They visit us to "wake us up" in a sense. Granted after my 1st successful CE-5 I was already awake honestly. But with my 2nd successful one and the 3rd, it inspired me with how often they would visit and how long they would do so. Which led to me even more wanting to share this more with others so they are aware of this, and so in turn they too can share it with others, and so on and so forth and continue to unveil something that is truly remarkable and will add so much more meaning and inspiration to many peoples lives. Once the number of people who are aware of this reaches a certain threshold, then the E.T. beings will deem it safe to do something more abrupt, and essentially stop revealing themselves only to the people who are acting as " peaceful civilian ambassadors" to other interstellar civilizations. The E.T. beings that respond to a CE-5, as far as I can infer based on my perspective, and how I rationalize the knowledge I have acquired regarding this entire subject, the E.T. beings responding to a CE-5 are benevolent and want to help our civilization to prosper and flourish, and to reduce suffering, which is largely caused by the significant amount of corruption in our government and corporations. And to people thinking I am talking about Trump and hate bandwagon going on in our country right now on that guy which really I speculate is a distraction, no I am talking about people that you hardly hear about in the news, the people who hardly get any publicity, being at the center of that corruption. The documentary goes into detail in this, but I wanted to at least say that much so you can better interpret and understand what I am trying to say without going too far into a political discussion; there is a great deal going on behind the scenes that we the people are not hearing on the news right now regarding trying to bring an end to this extremely profound and surreptitious corruption. I won't claim I know everything, and I am not saying there is not truth in what you are describing, but from my understanding of this with regard to what I have learned and how I logically see this, that your standpoint is not at the center of what is being done in a CE-5, and that you making claims about something that you have not tried to truly understand, and by not trying to disprove the documentary, and the evidence I have been providing, is a very biased way of thinking. That's why I asked people to first try to understand what is brought up in the documentary, then try to disprove, and not say things along the lines of, "Also, I refuse to watch that video guide - it’s the exact same thing as knowing how to work a Ouija board." I know it's difficult with the limited time we have to look into things like this and try to truly understand something before discrediting it, and it's even more so if we already have strong beliefs and those beliefs are in opposition with actually trying to truly discern if something is legitimate. That's largely part of the problem, there are too many beliefs and less facts. The documentary shares facts, gives legitimate evidence, and then the rest of Dr. Greer's work that extends from that and towards theory, speculation, and inference have sufficient evidence to help support it, such as with what a CE-5 entails and the results people have. #The cliche, " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink," but honestly if the water tastes bad just spit it out, at least test the water first before looking at it and deciding not to drink. And that's in essence what this thread was meant to be, for people to put aside their beliefs and preconceptions on this subject, and TO TRULY TEST the documentary, you don't even need to bother with a CE-5 if it still interferes with your beliefs, but there is truth in the documentary and in the evidence it provides. What is to fear in trying to understand a documentary? You seem like I nice person and have good intentions. But I'm so disappointed with the amount of assumptions people make without trying to truly understand a topic.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ramaero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-12-03T23:22:16.011+0000) > > That is a really well thought out and intellectual reply, I appreciate that. I short on time as today I've been extremely busy and I wanted to spend more than a minute or two to reply to this( I should be able to give this more time tomorrow) but just want to say thanks for the scientific and rational insight you just gave in which you elaborate on the scope of the universe in it's entirety, as well as it can be comprehended with the information we have and it was also very poetic; your response was really well thought and and I appreciate it. > > I want to point out I am not an expert on cosmology and astronomy but I know an okay amount so I can appreciate what you have said. Please I strongly urge you to give the Documentary a watch if you have not done so already, and let me know what you think. It might resonate well with you given your perspective and mentality and what you already have learned with regards to cosmology. > _______________ > > # Lastly for all who are viewing this thread and still have, only one person has upvoted this thread, while two people downvoted, there are over 700 people who have viewed this thread already. I urge you to please upvote this to help counteract the people who understandably will downvote this topic out of a whim or without giving it much thought or trying to really understand something before dismissing it or thinking it's something not worth others seeing. Please upvote this and tell other's who you believe might want to learn about this, it's very important more know and you can help by sharing this with others. Thanks for the response. If you like the subject, try reading, "A Short History of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson. I read it when I was 9, and found it fascinating.
> [{quoted}](name=Theorchero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T00:08:20.299+0000) > > Thanks for the response. > > If you like the subject, try reading, "A Short History of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson. I read it when I was 9, and found it fascinating. You're welcome, glad to hear your thoughts. Also sure I'll add that to a list of books I'd like to read and give it a shot. side note I deleted a reply I gave you which was meant to be my 2nd reply to Alzon. Kinda rushing to respond to whats on here and I'm sleepy, so my mistake there, can't believe I hit reply on the wrong person.
Alzon (NA)
: My thoughts on extraterrestrial life are a bit more on the religious side. Not gonna discuss it because that’s against the rules, but it boils down to the words of Carl Sagan: “It would be an awful waste of space.” I really don’t like the part about meditating to contact “extraterrestrial beings”. I have seen these beings - and they’re not extraterrestrials, in the sense of the word. Be very, very careful, and listen to nothing they say. Ever. They will do whatever they can to make you as miserable as they are.
> [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-03T23:40:51.749+0000) > > My thoughts on extraterrestrial life are a bit more on the religious side. Not gonna discuss it because that’s against the rules, but it boils down to the words of Carl Sagan: “It would be an awful waste of space.” > > I really don’t like the part about meditating to contact “extraterrestrial beings”. I have seen these beings - and they’re not extraterrestrials, in the sense of the word. Be very, very careful, and listen to nothing they say. Ever. They will do whatever they can to make you as miserable as they are. Video I gave to Causescience as well, and in it Dr. Greers explains more about this. But like I suggested with him, please watch the Documentary first. Seeing and testing what's brought up in the documentary should be done before looking into this video otherwise you're less likely to believe or understand whats discussed in this video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-Ukucii20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-Ukucii20)
: My one contention with the hypothesis of visitation/retrieval is that the entity that gets the tech would instantly shitstomp the others-- even with the crudest reverse engineering. It would be the greatest scientific find of all human history. Our society and species doesn't gradually evolve, it's punctuated with intense upheavals where new tech sweeps the world drastically-- those that have sweep away those that do not. I can't even imagine a watershed where that's happening across virtually every hard science at once. I want to be an astrobiologist, but I'm the boring, conservative kind. Single cells living in vents at the bottom of lunar oceans. I won't dismiss intelligent life, but the universe is big place, and a lot of boxes have to get checked and unchecked even to reach our level intelligence.
> [{quoted}](name=Incognonymous,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-03T23:59:00.214+0000) > > My one contention with the hypothesis of visitation/retrieval is that the entity that gets the tech would instantly shitstomp the others-- even with the crudest reverse engineering. It would be the greatest scientific find of all human history. Our society and species doesn't gradually evolve, it's punctuated with intense upheavals where new tech sweeps the world drastically-- those that have sweep away those that do not. I can't even imagine a watershed where that's happening across virtually every hard science at once. > > I want to be an astrobiologist, but I'm the boring, conservative kind. Single cells living in vents at the bottom of lunar oceans. I won't dismiss intelligent life, but the universe is big place, and a lot of boxes have to get checked and unchecked even to reach our level intelligence. That's really cool you want to be an Astrobiologist. You reminded of a few years ago before I even knew about Dr. Greer's work I wrote a paper in college discusing "big ideas" and one of the topics we could choose from was Extraterrestrials. If I remember correctly from what I researched that the moons of Jupiter and/or Saturn(forget which exactly, have to look it up) have water beneath the ice and, again with what water signifies with life that is pretty much overstated haha. But ya with what you mentioned with who has the tech essentially dominates, the documentary goes into detail with that. I would especially like your thoughts on the documentary considering what you are studying. With what you said, "I want to be an astrobiologist, but I'm the boring, conservative kind." I really hope what I am bringing up does not add to that boredom, because if anything I think should be more inspired with the career you are pursuing with regard to the subjects the documentary discusses. I wish you much success in your studies.
Alzon (NA)
: My thoughts on extraterrestrial life are a bit more on the religious side. Not gonna discuss it because that’s against the rules, but it boils down to the words of Carl Sagan: “It would be an awful waste of space.” I really don’t like the part about meditating to contact “extraterrestrial beings”. I have seen these beings - and they’re not extraterrestrials, in the sense of the word. Be very, very careful, and listen to nothing they say. Ever. They will do whatever they can to make you as miserable as they are.
> [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-03T23:40:51.749+0000) > > My thoughts on extraterrestrial life are a bit more on the religious side. Not gonna discuss it because that’s against the rules, but it boils down to the words of Carl Sagan: “It would be an awful waste of space.” > > I really don’t like the part about meditating to contact “extraterrestrial beings”. I have seen these beings - and they’re not extraterrestrials, in the sense of the word. Be very, very careful, and listen to nothing they say. Ever. They will do whatever they can to make you as miserable as they are. I can understand why people might not like the part about meditating to contact E.T. beings, and I think I get what you're implying about by telling me to be careful, I appreciate the concern; also regarding these beings are not E.T., in the sense of the word, well your half right. And I am compelled to explain this in detail considering this warrants some amount of further explanation for those curious or concerned about it, which can lead to misconceptions about what a CE-5 is, and the E.T. beings that will respond. There are Extraterrestrial beings, E.T. for short, that you can think of as being like us operating in 3rd/4th dimension, and that have advanced to the point capable of interstellar travel, which is travel between star systems. On the other hand there are MANY other beings that are not this, and many other beings not of the dimension that we operate in, we are 3rd/4th dimensional beings;furthermore some of these beings are not of the dimension we exist in, can phase into this dimension depending on certain circumstances and conditions, and will often appear as some body of light. Dr. Greer discusses this,and I believe that is the area in which you are going, in which there are beings that are benevolent and beings that are not. When learning about CE-5 he does explain this, and the protocols followed during that are done in such a way that will result in beings that are peaceful, benevolent, and compassionate. I want to recommend a video I made to Causescience to you as well, in which he goes into detail about this and articulates it very well to help people understand the concepts and the beings that are out there. I want to clarify that a CE-5 is short for Close Encounters of the 5th kind, it goes from 1 to 5, and 5 is human initiated contact. The meditation aspect of it is first to essentially become in a relaxed state and to center the mind and particularly in the sense of while being in that centered relaxed mindful state, to simply become aware of your own awareness, that wakefulness that sentient beings have and is also a link that we share, and by that I mean becoming mindful of the fact that you are awake and are aware of your own awakeness,and to center yourself on that concept while in that state. There is much more to it that is done in a CE-5 after that with regard to meditation and your consciousness, but I will not go into what the rest of a CE-5 entails because people that decide to read this before first trying to understand what is said in the documentary, will likely be put off by it, while people who generally are curious of this and want to know if this is something legimate or not, will make the effort to seek that information where it is available rather than shallowly, irresponsibly and ignorantly dismissing it based on preconceptions and beliefs, not fact, that they already have of this. If you want to educate yourself on this, it's there, try to learn and test the content in the documentary and beyond and see for yourself before dismissing it. Funny and frustrating thing is I literally typed just about the amount I put into this reply that was only explaining in depth what a CE-5 is. I decided against posting that though sadly, because even though that is related to this discussion, it is something I don't want to explain in depth to people who have not watched the documentary "Unacnkowledged", and will not able to truly comprehend, accept, an altogether believe that this is something that works. I've had amazing contact experiences as a result with UFO's. The closest I have come to actually communicating with them, aside from the many times I have seen them do amazing things with their crafts in the sky as a way of manifesting and showing me that they visited me after the efforts I made in a CE-5, the most they have tried to communicate with me, specifically with which they clearly manifested and let me be aware that they are here,which is also important to note them choosing to manifest for you(just because you don't see them when doing a CE-5, does not mean they are not there in your vicinity observing you, it's very important to be aware of that), is them picking up on what I am saying/thinking as they are above me in the sky, and responding via doing something such as moving a distance across the sky or lighting up in the sky as an immediate response, key word is immediate response. The circumstance of them doing something specifically as a way of communicating is fascinating, and I want to emphasize they are able to read what I am thinking, and feeling, so I ask them if they would do something in my mind without talking( I am generally completely silent during the times I do a CE-5, talking is not necessary), and sometimes they will do that or respond to something in a particular way. I'll give an example. I'm sitting outside at a park at night just about 32 degree out and I am freezing after sitting still in this cold for about 3-4hrs, (almost winter now *deep sigh*), but wanting to stay out that long because of the many UFO's coming in that particular night and thus I stayed out quite a long time, but literally it was so cold that if I stayed out any longer it would definitely be bad considering I how long I was bearing that cold outside while wishing I had some warmer clothes. The very instant I asked them in my mind essentially, "please don't leave just yet I'll be back in 30 minutes, I need to get warm in my car," the second I ended that statement in my mind a UFO above me lit up and shimmered brightly in response, suggesting they understand why what I was requesting and why I am going away for a while. I accidentally fell asleep in my car and ended up staying in there for over an hour, fortunately I didn't sleep that long, it could have been for hours with how tired I was. I walked a distance back to the spot I was sitting that I had left to warm up in my car, and as soon as I sat down and the very instant I looked up the UFO was still in the EXACT same spot AND lit up again, and I'd interpret that as a means of saying something along the lines of,"welcome back :D." Now I need to emphasize also those two instances was the only time that particular UFO that was hovering above me for hours had AT ALL lit up for the entire 5-6hrs I was out there. People can argue, that was a coincidence, well significantly more UFO phenomena happened that night aside from that instance in which they were specifically communicating with me through using a signal, in addition to another signaling me exactly at the specific time I stated I was going to end the CE-5 for that night and was telling them goodbye and thanks for visiting me and this planet. Explaining the significance of how that night ended would need context in which I would have to type out a long post and this post is long enough. I'll maybe discuss it later if someone is really curious about it, but I've said what's necessary to get my point across. There are those who have had contact experience in which they have actually come down on the ground, but it is very rare that they will do that and communicate with us to that extent. I've yet to experience that, but it is very likely they have been on the ground and were very close to me, but did not manifest and make themselves visible to me for me tell if that truly was the case, but there are other things that occur in which you can infer that they are near you on the ground such as certain sounds they will make. Not going to bother explaining that, because that would be a lot of typing to explain that properly. I've done a CE-5, 7 times now in total, 3 of which I can say with certainty I made contact with E.T. beings and have had fascinating UFO phenomena occur, 4 of which I have not did not have that, but that does not necessarily mean they did not visit me.The times in which I saw nothing is very likely they simply did not manifest so that they could been seen,as well as I was unable to pick up on their manifestations. Also regarding the 4 times I have not made contact, I did them under certain circumstances in which I was already aware before I started that I might not have a contact experience this time as well as I also wasn't out for a long period of time during those attempts, in other words I knew that likelihood for trying to do that, before I even did it, would make much less likely I would successfully make contact AND be aware that they visited me. In other words those times I was unable to truly tell if they had visited where I was, and I believe, but I can't say that I know with certainty, but I believe that they did considering how I understand the concepts of a CE-5. They simply chose to not manifest in a way in which I would be able to see them in this dimension, remember they travel here trans-dimensionally and often choose not to appear for a number of reasons, which warrants yet another explanation but I've explained enough. If you are curious the information is there if you want to learn. I suggest watching the documentary first, then go to Dr. Greer's website siriusdisclosere.com and cross checking some of the evidence as well as looking at other credible sources to test what is in the documentary to truly understand its legitimacy, then visiting the youtube channel Sirius Disclosure that has several videos explaining this, and then back to Dr. Greer's official website in which you can learn how to do a CE-5, something that everyone is capable of doing regardless of any prior training or experience.
: yikes that's a huge ass thread And as someone else mentioned before me, it's actually so incredibly unlikely that we are the sole form of intelligent life in our universe that it borders on the hysterically impossible. Mathematically speaking even if there were a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of life being on any given planet, then there'd be thousands of civilizations in our galaxy alone. Now granted, whether or not multiple races of intelligent life exist at any one time is debatable, since in the grand scheme of things, we are on one small planet, in an infinitesimal solar system, at the edge of an infant galaxy. And the entire span of earth's civilization, going back over ten thousand years, isn't even a blink of an eye in intergalactic standards of time. Chances are, entire cultures of intelligent life have lived, breathed, fucked, invented, and wiped themselves or died out a thousand times before our planet even arose from the superheated plasma of the universe. That's not even accounting that, chances are, our universe is not the first time existence has happened. Eventually, black holes, singularities of infinite gravity will eventually gather all matter, light will die, entropy will take over. Everything in the entire universe that is, was, and will be, will be compressed into the size of a soccer ball. Matter and anti matter will duel once more, and if we are lucky, if this time around, like the last time that allowed regular matter to exist, there is a positive amount of matter, it will explode, expelling massive amounts of heat, gas, energy and elements in mere microseconds. More energy than a billion civilizations could produce in a trillion lifetimes. More energy than all the stars in the milky way will ever produce in their entire lives, combined. More energy than can be possibly described or comprehend by any human mind. Time will once again flow, as it may be measured. Time is not equal, of course. Circumstances of one's birth in the universe never are, it's possible the level of background radiation will be much higher than the previous time. Or much lower. It takes very specific and fortunate circumstances for the universe to be able to actually form galaxies, too little or too much gravity results in ultimate failure. Of course, we never knew about the failed circumstances, no one would. Reality can't exist if it fails, so if the odds are above zero, it will always happen, eventually. An infinite amount of times in an infinite amount of space, for there is never really an end to our universe. Merely our wholly insignificant part in it.
> [{quoted}](name=Theorchero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-03T05:16:59.273+0000) > > yikes that's a huge ass thread > > > And as someone else mentioned before me, it's actually so incredibly unlikely that we are the sole form of intelligent life in our universe that it borders on the hysterically impossible. > > Mathematically speaking even if there were a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of life being on any given planet, then there'd be thousands of civilizations in our galaxy alone. Now granted, whether or not multiple races of intelligent life exist at any one time is debatable, since in the grand scheme of things, we are on one small planet, in an infinitesimal solar system, at the edge of an infant galaxy. And the entire span of earth's civilization, going back over ten thousand years, isn't even a blink of an eye in intergalactic standards of time. > > Chances are, entire cultures of intelligent life have lived, breathed, fucked, invented, and wiped themselves or died out a thousand times before our planet even arose from the superheated plasma of the universe. That's not even accounting that, chances are, our universe is not the first time existence has happened. Eventually, black holes, singularities of infinite gravity will eventually gather all matter, light will die, entropy will take over. Everything in the entire universe that is, was, and will be, will be compressed into the size of a soccer ball. Matter and anti matter will duel once more, and if we are lucky, if this time around, like the last time that allowed regular matter to exist, there is a positive amount of matter, it will explode, expelling massive amounts of heat, gas, energy and elements in mere microseconds. More energy than a billion civilizations could produce in a trillion lifetimes. More energy than all the stars in the milky way will ever produce in their entire lives, combined. More energy than can be possibly described or comprehend by any human mind. Time will once again flow, as it may be measured. Time is not equal, of course. Circumstances of one's birth in the universe never are, it's possible the level of background radiation will be much higher than the previous time. Or much lower. It takes very specific and fortunate circumstances for the universe to be able to actually form galaxies, too little or too much gravity results in ultimate failure. Of course, we never knew about the failed circumstances, no one would. Reality can't exist if it fails, so if the odds are above zero, it will always happen, eventually. An infinite amount of times in an infinite amount of space, for there is never really an end to our universe. Merely our wholly insignificant part in it. That is a really well thought out and intellectual reply, I appreciate that. I short on time as today I've been extremely busy and I wanted to spend more than a minute or two to reply to this( I should be able to give this more time tomorrow) but just want to say thanks for the scientific and rational insight you just gave in which you elaborate on the scope of the universe in it's entirety, as well as it can be comprehended with the information we have and it was also very poetic; your response was really well thought and and I appreciate it. I want to point out I am not an expert on cosmology and astronomy but I know an okay amount so I can appreciate what you have said. Please I strongly urge you to give the Documentary a watch if you have not done so already, and let me know what you think. It might resonate well with you given your perspective and mentality and what you already have learned with regards to cosmology. _______________ # Lastly for all who are viewing this thread and still have, only one person has upvoted this thread, while two people downvoted, there are over 700 people who have viewed this thread already. I urge you to please upvote this to help counteract the people who understandably will downvote this topic out of a whim or without giving it much thought or trying to really understand something before dismissing it or thinking it's something not worth others seeing. Please upvote this and tell other's who you believe might want to learn about this, it's very important more know and you can help by sharing this with others.
: Through simple probability, there is almost certainly extra-terrestrial life somewhere out there, but I don't approve of this "water is the base of all life" or "there cannot be life on _x_ planet because of _y_ reason." The conditions of our own existence, in my opinion, are circumstantial. For example, just because the only known life in the Universe (us), has _z_ material/substance, doesn't mean that for life to exist that substance has to be somehow involved. The Goldilocks Zone is only the "perfect" temperature by our standard. It really depends on what we consider life to be. We think of life as "like us" but "life" could exist at, e.g. absolute zero, we have no way of knowing really.
> [{quoted}](name=CauseSCIENCE,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QyZlRsW5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-03T02:21:52.761+0000) > > Through simple probability, there is almost certainly extra-terrestrial life somewhere out there, but I don't approve of this "water is the base of all life" or "there cannot be life on _x_ planet because of _y_ reason." The conditions of our own existence, in my opinion, are circumstantial. For example, just because the only known life in the Universe (us), has _z_ material/substance, doesn't mean that for life to exist that substance has to be somehow involved. The Goldilocks Zone is only the "perfect" temperature by our standard. It really depends on what we consider life to be. We think of life as "like us" but "life" could exist at, e.g. absolute zero, we have no way of knowing really. Nicely put and very good point, and it's good that you have that disapprove of that. Dr. Greer has discussed this as well, and you are absolutely right. Even though what I say is difficult to give hard evidence for and is based a lot on empirical evidence. When making contact, which is called CE-5, which is a level of E.T. contact that can be done by anyone, he describes that these beings travel and operate "inter-dimensionally," and that there are some "Astral" beings or beings of light that can appear that are E.T. beings, but not primarly of this dimension, but temporarily will phase into this dimension and will come across to us as a body of light. He has said his next documentary that should be coming out sometime in the Summer of next year, and will focus on the CE-5 human initiated contact, and all that encompasses that. I don't want to go to far into discussing CE-5 because that invites skepticism and goes over the head of many people. But as you said, "The Goldilocks Zone is only the "perfect" temperature by our standard. It really depends on what we consider life to be," and there is a great deal and complexity to other life out there. There are some similar to us that are humanoid and who are very similar to us, and other's higher dimensional E.T. beings that are not. This video goes into much more detail than I have. But please I recommend watching the documentary before touching this video, because this is largely on empirical evidence, speculation, and beliefs that support that. The documentary is on topics that are more falsifiable that can be proven and there is significant evidence supporting it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-Ukucii20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-Ukucii20)
Ramaero (NA)
: "Unacknowledged" Documentary: Suppressed revolutionary E.T./alien technology, legitimate evidence
I want to emphasis this again in first comment. This thread is a discussion of the "Unacknowledged" documentary and what you liked or disliked about it, but please DO NOT go in depth into certain things regarding politics, even though the documentary discusses corruption and that encompasses is, but it's not what I want the core focus of the thread to be. Also don't go into debate or an excess elaboration concerning politics or the corruption the documentary discusses here please, and please be mindful of trolls that may be baiting you into conversations revolved around this. This is not what I want the focus of this thread to be on. The core of the purpose of this thread and what I want to discuss is what you think about the existence of extraterrestrial beings, your impressions of the documentary and the evidence it provides for that, and whether you liked it and agreed with it or not, or have heard of it before coming across this thread if you haven't watched it yet. I really would like peoples thoughts on this in the League community. Please stay on topic of the thread, provide constructive criticism if critical of the subject, and be respectful of others that you are in disagreement with.
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Ramaero (NA)
: Interesting rework and gameplay change for Talon to help in balance issues, particularly in Diamond+
Going to leave thread as it is here, this was one of my last threads on the boards and not spending any more time on here. Thanks NM1010 for the feedback on this, and I gave upvotes. I appreciate it.
Ramaero (NA)
: Riot please reply,"Similarities" to reworked Akali theme and my Feng champion concept 2 months ago
I made the final edit at the top of the thread, and I gave everyone upvotes. Thanks for all the constructive feedback received, and taking the time to read this.
: You know for someone who claims not to frequent the boards that often you typed a hell of a lot. Now from what I understand, your character seems like to much of a generic ninja with little purpose to add to the gameplay or lore of the game (this is further nailed in by you using pics from naruto and ninja gaiden to describe it). He's also really poorly designed, like parts of his kit give him way too much benefit and utility while the other half is actually useless. Also none of our concepts or ideas posted here are protected by any form of copyright since we're making suggestions to the company's creative property, so they aren't under any obligation to inform you if any similarities to their published work were inspired by a board post. Last thing, I actually couldn't bear to get through your initial concept post or even this one. Learn to focus your points of interest and summarize what you want to say because if anything is stopping a rioter from replying, its your rambling. Also why is he a ninja but not affiliated with ionia?
Yes I am aware they aren't under any obligation to do this, even before posting this, but I still wanted to make an attempt, even though I admit it was a bad attempt for sure. Yes when I look back on it my first concept which was a Talon rework was definitely very bad. I should have thought it through better and constructed it better as a thread, and I don't blame you for not getting through that one, I agree with you. Feng though I thought was a distinct improvement despite it still be lengthy I constructed it a bit better. Thanks for at least trying to see what it was about. He is a ninja not affiliated with Ionia because I wanted to make him separate from the Ionian ninjas, and be an entirely different organized group regarding his sect, for the sake of having him stand out more from other talked about factions by making something entirely new. Someone from Riot also mentioned this recently in a post that not all of Runeterra has been discovered yet, and if I remember correctly the scope of what is made aware of the world would be comparable to just North America and South America. Forgot who said it from Riot, pretty sure it was sometime in the last two weeks. Anyway reading what that rioter said made me glad I did that with his lore, because even though his sect resided in Demacia for several years in secret, before that they likely would have been a part of one of those unknown areas of Runeterra yet to be added to the story.
nm1010 (NA)
: > 0 items with just starter items ~ 60% current Talons damage > 1 item ~ 75% current Talons damage > 2 items ~ 90% current Talons damage > 3 items ~ 105% current Talons damage > 4 items ~ 120%+ current Talons damage Just a long sword @ lvl 6 full rotation = ~60% as you claimed At a full item 400 bAD build with lvl 18 we get ~99% of the current damage. Basically all of these changes significantly nerf a full combo Talon without getting resets. If we start talking about fast combos he might have actually gotten buffed, but I don't feel like doing another 15 minutes of math to compare (and I'm pretty sure it'll be close or worse). This goes without even mentioning all of the game pacing issues that these changes would bring. Most notably the fact that he would get absolutely dumpstered in lane without his w waveclear (which is worse until 171 bonus ad). Without kill pressure at level 6 (He does a laughable 372 damage before resistances) he would just be a constant liability until mid-late game and the pay off just wouldn't be worth it.
Wow I'm sorry, I could have sworn it was not that bad, particular with 400 bAD. I'll take your word for it, I'll look more into the calculations later and maybe make an edit, but, to fix this I would simply have to adjust his % base damage and % bonus AD damage to the point in which it should just about equal current Talon mid game with same gold and items, and make his early game not as bad, particular with increasing his early game damage with W. I'm surprised it was that far off with 400 bAD though later on...I really want to do the math of that later; he shouldn't have to rely on resets on rake to exceed the damage he does compared to current Talon that late into the game. That being said though, were I to adjust the numbers properly so that he is doing about the same as current Talon with 2 items at the same level, and 3 items exceeding current Talon(assuming current Talon is always going to be ahead anyway because of stronger early game) then it should work out. But ya really sorry for wasting your time on that and you ended up finding out with calculating it thoroughly; I really thought I replicated the % scalings I originally came up with when I thought about this a few weeks ago, but I ended up making him too weak early and mid game with these numbers. That aside, I just need number tweaks to make up for that, the idea behind making him have a really strong mid late game but weaker(but not too weak which is what I did) early game is something I still think would be a good change for him, with obviously making his abilities stronger than they are now. Sorry you had to find out the hard way with calculating it.
: Excuse me, you led your entire post with this: > [{quoted}](name=Ramaero,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=HbojPGPp,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-18T04:40:37.921+0000) > > #**Edit:** > If over 4 hrs from now at 3PM eastern time, if a comment from someone at Riot is not made by then, then I will stop looking at this thread, nothing personal to riot or anything... I am just out of patience regarding this. Obviously it hasn't even been a day yet since I made this thread, and it is more reasonable to wait around about week instead which is what I generally did in the past, but I am not willing to continue hoping I get a reply from Riot considering the thread is not popular... And you're telling me you don't want the reader to think that you feel entitled to a response by Riot? Most people wouldn't have even gotten as far as the last word in that quote before they slam the downvote button and move on. Even if you acknowledge it later on that the post isn't entitled to a response.
You seem like a genuinely good contributor to the boards, sorry for wasting your time on a thread like this directed to getting feedback from Riot after I made that edit to the very start.
: Excuse me, you led your entire post with this: > [{quoted}](name=Ramaero,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=HbojPGPp,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-18T04:40:37.921+0000) > > #**Edit:** > If over 4 hrs from now at 3PM eastern time, if a comment from someone at Riot is not made by then, then I will stop looking at this thread, nothing personal to riot or anything... I am just out of patience regarding this. Obviously it hasn't even been a day yet since I made this thread, and it is more reasonable to wait around about week instead which is what I generally did in the past, but I am not willing to continue hoping I get a reply from Riot considering the thread is not popular... And you're telling me you don't want the reader to think that you feel entitled to a response by Riot? Most people wouldn't have even gotten as far as the last word in that quote before they slam the downvote button and move on. Even if you acknowledge it later on that the post isn't entitled to a response.
Good point, again I set myself up for that and overlooked it on others commenting. Again i can't hold that against you. When I made that edit I just wanted to suggest something time sensitive, to the point where after I making no effort with this anymore. But yes you are right that suggests entitlement being at the very start even though it isn't the entirety of the thread. I understand more why you wrote what you wrote, I overlooked that.
: I read a bit, then skimmed down, read a bit more, then skimmed down again and read a bit again. Also I looked at your concept post for Feng. Maybe there's some misunderstanding, but that's bound to happen if you don't give your thoughts concisely. People aren't going to read a wall of text like this post is. Even paragraphs can't help because of how long it is. If you truly feel misunderstood and you wish to be understood better, then please rewrite your post in a manner that doesn't test everyone's attention span.
I agree it's my fault I am not surprised something like this happened which is why I can't blame you too much for it, I set this up for myself unfortunately. It's not ideal to construct a post like this but I did this on a careless whim in the small chance I can get someone from Riot to reply in a short amount of time to hope it gets noticed. But I understand where you are coming from, that's why I didn't downvote you or anything for it. A problem I struggle with when I have a lot to say in writing I tend to elaborate way too much, and if I don't it feels "incomplete" yet it's actually hurting what I am trying to convey. Really didn't make much attempt to be concise which I should have, but i'm not going to take the time to do that now since I already wrote all of this and don't want to spend much more time on the boards regarding this.
: Reading your concept abilities your champion isn't remotely similar to the Akali rework. Both use a traditional Japanese weapon, both have an ability that throws that weapon, and both have dashes. That's extremely generic to argue any sort of borrowing happened, especially when Akali already had all of those aspects in her original kit.
That is a valid argument. My argument is the small and simple can be thought of as trivial; however I just want to point some things out to help you better understand my perspective. Akali is the first champion to use a kunai specifically as a weapon in League. 2 months ago before we became aware of this, when I made Feng I thought I included this for the sake of making him unique. Lastly Feng is a champion I made a focus on him being a type assassin shifting away from high burst and more about mobility, what was described in the Akali rework descriptions as "hit and run" and being similar to the gameplay I envisioned for Feng, that's all. Those two aspects are the only similarities of the two. Are they significant though? to me there are, because as an assassin Akali stands out significantly from the others, as would Feng if he was made. Yes there are significant differences between Akali and my champion, which is why I stated I will stick to my main because I know I will still prefer Talons gameplay over Akali even though Akali's gameplay is definitely an improvement and she is definitely my new second favorite assassin now which used to be Zed with Talon still holding first. To make it even more simplified akali and Feng are both kunai wielding, high mobile assassins, with less up front quick burst than the average assassin. Those are the similarities. Coincidence? It is very likely it could have been just that. I personally was surprised an assassin that used kunai was not made yet, and one that favored a lot more in mobility and intricate movement, which is why I wanted Feng to become a champion. This thread is me expressing that desire, with over elaboration to a fault unfortunately, and my disappointment that this style of gameplay went to Akali before a new assassin champion, similar and perhaps inspired from Feng, was made. As well as aside from what HalcyonDweller who was falsely claiming a few things, I never said I was entitled to a rioter response, or that they "stole my concept". I made the concept to ideally be used anyway, I just hoped it resulted in a champion I was more passionate about is all. I can't be too dissapointed over HalcyonDweller because how my thread was "set up" and it being so lengthy suggested probably the things he negatively assumed about me so he commented without even reading what I wrote and made false assertions about me. Anyway thanks for not making rash and presumptiuous comments like HalcyonDweller did. I understand how you say it is generic to argue borrowing happened, and that's true, it's still for me a disappointing coincidence though which is why I made this thread to perhaps if I am lucky someone from Riot would perhaps talk with me about it. If not then oh well, they either did not notice or had better things to do which I have no doubt they are doing; many many more people to consider than me or the players who might benefit from what I want implemented into the game, it's understandable and I can't blame them for anything. As i said already in my thread, Akali is a well designed champion, something I also stated in my post; furthermore and saying this in this comment to you that I would like to play Akali more often especially when Talon is picked or banned as my 2nd favorite assassin something. Again reemphasizing it just made me very disappointed my "ideal champion" did not have that style of gameplay first and it not resembling what Feng would be like more. This rework also also suggests if they do make a champion similar to Akali in the future like Feng, it will be a while. Riot tends to wait a very long time before making another champion that has the same class, with similar gameplay and theme.
: Not only that, but they act like they're entitled to a Rioter response. We all wait around for Rioter responses. OP should get in line. They aren't any more entitled to a response than any of the rest of us.
Which is why I said those very same things in my thread, this is a thread expressing my dissapointment yes, but I acknowledged a few times that I am not entitled to a response. Please if a threads length puts you off don't just assume a person is going about something the way toxic ragers tend to go off on people from Riot on the forums, I did not do this. My only fault here is over elaboration and wanting something badly that won't be acknowledged. But also expressing the coincidence correlated to Akali being reworked making me want it even more, because of the similarities. I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and again I understand why you are tempted not to read the length, but it is not right to make comments and things you aren't 100% sure was said in a thread. Your shaming someone unjustly based on somthing that was not even written. I even touched on this in my "Note, please read brief explanation of entire thread in 1st paragraph" paragraph. I am curious, if I give you the benefit of the doubt, what exactly were you reading that made you jump to these conclusions in my thread? This is one problem with long threads I guess.
: Even if Riot did steal concepts from you (which they didn't) it's not yours to keep or control. There is a clause in the Terms of Use, anything you post about the game on the company's services (boards included) is no longer yours. They do this to protect themselves from IP lawsuits. You aren't entitled to a Rioter response, we all vie for their attention here and they rarely respond anyways. Get in line. Referring to the way you talked about your Feng idea being postponed for several years. It's extremely presumptuous to assume that Riot will create your champion the way you envisioned it. Check yourself.
It's my fault for the length but I included exactly what you criticize in my very very lengthy post. You did not read my thread, can't blame you for that, you are putting words into my mouth in this response. I just wish you read what I wrote before you made certain strong assertions. One quick correction nothing was postponed for several years....did you read my thread at all x.x? Again sorry for the length but this is surprising what you assumed I wrote in my body of text. What you are claiming I wrote is simply false. Not going to say more other than you have a big misunderstanding.
nm1010 (NA)
: This is kind of a mess, did you actually do any of the math or factor in any of Talon's combos?
Flower combo from my distant memory a few weeks ago before making this thread: 0 items with just starter items ~ 60% current Talons damage 1 item ~ 75% current Talons damage 2 items ~ 90% current Talons damage 3 items ~ 105% current Talons damage 4 items ~ 120%+ current Talons damage etc. __________________ He will lack kill pressure and ability to quickly one shot early for sure. Can only really expect that 3 items in, but current Talon will have snowball advantage thus why would this Talon be better? Because of how he can use his rake and his new E passive and function as a mobile mage/skirmisher and not just be about being able to one shot someone. He'll be able to safely zone or poke enemies with his rake and have a higher damage in teamfights because of it's low cooldown and ability to reset and lower itself on takedowns and triggering bleed. A few weeks ago I worked out the math, then deleted the info because did not feel like posting this lengthy thread, and ended up changing my mind today, while not having the numbers. If I remember correctly from before the details in the flower combo percentages above, generally speaking and the trend of champion lvl to amount of items he has, his rake will start doing more damage before Talon gets his 2nd item though, which again is an ability that will be significantly more of a strength than it is currently, not to mention he will be able to use it at least twice as much in a fight not including resetting it via a takedown or lowering by 2 seconds it via a bleed proc, emphasis on his rake being max rank for this, and more affectively deal damage from range mid and late game. For example He can W, Q, ult, hold invisibility, and immediately W again from a distance when exit stealth because his stealth is duration is so close to his Rake cooldown at max rank and max CDR, and a squishy will likely die from the final rake after stealth. Sorry I can only give % approximates though, really don't want to go extensively regarding the math; especially because from experience in the game and playing Talon I am fairly confident I am not too far off with damage comparisons.
Ramaero (NA)
: Interesting rework and gameplay change for Talon to help in balance issues, particularly in Diamond+
I am putting this comment and an edit into this thread in another thread as well that I made essentially on the same day that discuss two different topics concerning gameplay additions, and I am not trying to spam, this edit is relevant to both threads. Edit is at the top of the thread. Also Riot I explain this in my edit, but don't bother replying unless it is for others on the boards who might read this after 3PM eastern time when I stop looking at these threads, because except for the dev corner occasionally to see what changes might be coming soon, I am done with the boards. Still I must say thanks to Meddler and Riot Stashu for discussing with me the rework I had first wanted for Talon(but was a badly constructed thread and overall I was asking too much for what the rework consisted of).
Ramaero (NA)
: Riot please reply,"Similarities" to reworked Akali theme and my Feng champion concept 2 months ago
I am putting this comment and an edit into this thread in another thread as well that I made essentially on the same day that discuss two different topics concerning gameplay additions, and I am not trying to spam, this edit is relevant to both threads. Edit is at the top of the thread. Also Riot I explain this in my edit, but don't bother replying unless it is for others on the boards who might read this after 3PM eastern time when I stop looking at these threads, because except for the dev corner occasionally to see what changes might be coming soon, I am done with the boards. Still I must say thanks to Meddler and Riot Stashu for discussing with me the rework I had first wanted for Talon(but was a badly constructed thread and overall I was asking too much for what the rework consisted of).
MAICKY11 (EUW)
: Akali rework release date?
Probably next patch 2 weeks from unless something goes terribly wrong and they delay it(not sure I have experienced a delay happening before though). Riot generally releases the videos, showing off the champion and building hype, do some more tests to balance, then release it in following patch, so Wednesday 8/1/18.
Yamikaze (NA)
: The PBE Talon Nerfs Are The Wrong Way to Nerf Talon - By a Challenger Talon OTP
Looks like they went through with the changes unfortunately, and I agree with the Q nerf and reverting the MR buff you mentioned. I just made a thread on some bigger changes to Talon I thought of via a multitude of tweaks to his abilities, the biggest one being his W, and giving his E a passive. I am curious what you think about it, and if you are willing to give any feedback on it considering even though I am a Talon main like you are and am currently low plat, you're much more experienced and successful with him than I have been.
Ramaero (NA)
: Interesting rework and gameplay change for Talon to help in balance issues, particularly in Diamond+
Made a few edits and fixed a few typos and grammar mistakes a few minutes after posting the thread. Sorry, shouldn't have posted in such a rush.
Comentários de Rioters
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: it's supposed to be here because she left the kinkou after she disagreed with them Dragon tattoo is a reference to Yakuzas who used tattoos in the edo era to show their rebellion
Oh wow I did not know that, so it wasn't something random, Malicious Metal says something similar too. Thanks for the info, I honestly thought it was just something random, at least I know now that it wasn't.
MrHaZeYo (NA)
: I feel like the people who you are talking to have no idea what they're talking about lol. I work in the night life industry (Bartending) and have seen all sorts of different Tats and most of them have no regrets and thoroughly love them. I'd say 85% of them don't seem to have low self-esteem or don't love themselves. Most Tats represent something to the people getting them. I personally don't have any and Idk if I'll ever get one but I know that the people getting them generally get them for a reason. My mom has Tats and each one means something different and meaningful to her.
Fair enough, I know there is another perspective and I admit I am biased to my own, probably more so than it should be. I just gravitate towards the fact that for some people(what % of people that is I can't say with confidence) getting it can end up over time backfiring, and they regret ever getting it. It is that type of thinking that I guess kept me away from them, aside from me just not a fan of the art. But you make a good point, when I posted this I admit I was definitely not in the best of moods...for sure, and if I look at it more objectively I think I am letting my bias get the better of me. But there definitely are problems correlated to tattoos for some people, maybe not "most", I went too far saying most rather than some. Also not trying to offend anyone or make anyone feel bad by any means; hope I did not come across as that. I just feel sorry for people who legitimately end up regretting getting a tattoo, and especially if they were pressured or to do so by others, or to fit in with others and be more well liked or "cool" considering the popularity it is at right now. It's really sad for those who go through that especially if you know them personally. Thanks for your constructive reply though, I liked reading your comment. I'll upvote.
Whale Oil (EUW)
: Why is football Ekko in this splash? what do you guys think?
I think it would be cool, particularly his stun with his W, he kicks the ball in that area and stuns everyone, and his Q being a ball too that he kicks out.
Ramaero (NA)
: From what I have I have come to believe from what I have read and people I know who have gotten them, but no I have not read that from sources that come across discussing that specifically e.g. problem with loving yourself, aka huge problems self esteem, would not be surprised to come across it if I read more on it though.
also keep in mind I use "most" and am not speaking in absolute, I believe there are exceptions.
: what "I believe most people who get a tattoo are people who have a problem loving themselves, and aren't proud of who they already are as a person, and are trying too hard in the wrong way to compensate for that lack of love towards the self, and then they just end up hurting themselves. It's something self-destructive in a subtle way." wh_At_
From what I have I have come to believe from what I have read and people I know who have gotten them, but no I have not read that from sources that come across discussing that specifically e.g. problem with loving yourself, aka huge problems self esteem, would not be surprised to come across it if I read more on it though.
WøOxer (EUW)
: U missed to add third option: "Doesn't matter for me", because I don't mind both options.
good point, ill add it. edit: can't edit polls o_o...sigh, sorry, any chance can pick a side? Are you that indifferent?
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Ramaero (NA)
: Riot please reply,"Similarities" to reworked Akali theme and my Feng champion concept 2 months ago
Link to Feng thread added. Sorry for forgetting to include the link when I made the thread.
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Bazerka (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WindLord7070,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I42GMEiP,comment-id=0000000400000000000000010002000000000002,timestamp=2018-06-12T00:56:17.366+0000) > > I'd just like to say on the point of good feed back and it getting buried. While that may be the case when it comes to broad topics or in places like GD the same is not true for places like the champion mains sub reddits that exist. Over at the nidalee mains reddit we had a lot of discussion on ways to fix nidalee so she could lane again without making her op in the jungle but we never got any feedback over there. It also wouldn't be hard for a rioter to just start a post. At least speaking for nidalee players I know if one did they would get a alot of good reasonable feedback. We even have players who have made detailed videos talking about this stuff but it just doesn't get looked at even when it's a very important aspect of specific champion discussion For sure! And those are some of the most helpful forums for feedback (for example we asked Ireliacarriesu to give us feedback on her rework). However, at the risk of sounding repetitive, I imagine we have to prioritize features and reworks since we only have so many hours in the day to get things done :S. In an ideal world we would have infinite resources to solve all these problems, but many times we just don't unless we severely destroy a person's time commitments which we really don't want to do (most of us came from a world like that, and trust me 100 hr weeks **suck**).
> [{quoted}](name=Bazerka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I42GMEiP,comment-id=00000004000000000000000100020000000000020000,timestamp=2018-06-12T01:31:14.871+0000) > > For sure! And those are some of the most helpful forums for feedback (for example we asked Ireliacarriesu to give us feedback on her rework). However, at the risk of sounding repetitive, I imagine we have to prioritize features and reworks since we only have so many hours in the day to get things done :S. In an ideal world we would have infinite resources to solve all these problems, but many times we just don't unless we severely destroy a person's time commitments which we really don't want to do (most of us came from a world like that, and trust me 100 hr weeks **suck**). Hi Bazerka, I am really surprised someone from Riot that have not seen before started putting a lot of effort discussing topics on the boards, and thanks for taking the time to do this for the community. Hopefully with the many things you have wrote on here recently will help to reduce the disturbing amount of criticism thrown at you guys in general. I made a thread several days ago in an attempt to help people be less hostile, and full of doubt over how Riot works on the boards relating to something Riot Ghostcrawler had replied to, and I have a good opinion of the work Riot does in general. I try to mostly observe rather than comment, and only recently started commenting/making threads when it was concerning my favorite champion Talon, but wanted to say something here; thanks for your hard work and input on the boards and trying to communicate with us, in addition to the others who do so like Meddler who regularly does it. I really wanted to discuss something else but I think you are short on time, and perhaps this may be your last post for the day, you've been doing this for I think almost 10 hours today in addition to yesterday which is really something. What I wanted to discuss has to do with a thread I made in the concepts and creations section several weeks ago on an idea for a champion I have, and the concepts and creations section in general and how Riot looks into that part of the boards. I would normally just write out what I want, but I wanted to ask for permission first considering you've replied to so much already, and what I wrote here already is rather long, and don't want you to feel pressured considering all the other comments. Even if you don't reply to this, although I really hope you do, just know there are lots of players who do think well of Riot as a company, such as myself, despite the popular stigma people just seem to automatically think badly of the work being done. League of Legends is a great game, and many others like myself believe in the work you guys are doing to keep it great. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
: Cassiopeia doesn't use Nimbus Cloak. She didn't even use Ultimate Hat that much because she consumes mana like a drunk man in a bar after a nasty divorce who lost custody of his children. She needs Manaflow Band to even remotely have manageable mana in lane, so there's no reason whatsoever for her to want Nimbus Cloak. Furthermore, when she ults, she's not supposed to run away. She's supposed to shred people to death with E while they're stunned and poisoned. She doesn't need the MS boost from Nimbus Cloak because it's counterproductive to her kit. That, and she already has a potent speed boost built into Q.
You make a good point and I agree it is probably unnecessary, but having more speed as Cass can be really helpful situationally. I wouldn't say the flat 100 ms from nimbus counterproductive to her kit along with the % movement speed she gets when people mostly take phase rush(which has worse ms than stormraiders used to have last season with 40% ms at all lvls with a longer CD); that extra burst of ms is situationally good offensively and defensively in making you get to where you want to be faster in a fight right after you use the ult, and especially if it doesn't stun or misses the target, but I do agree that she doesn't desperately need it, and it might be overkill since she already has a lot of ms. I haven't played Cass since the mana changes, and I know she was already mana heavy before that, but personally I'd prefer that over manaflow band for the sake that it'll slightly help me win a fight more if my mana is fairly high before it starts, and just try to conserve mana better throughout the game to make up for it.
Terozu (NA)
: I'd say Kat is the poster girl for league tbh. She appears in virtually every promo image, was in every trailer/cinematic and is an older champ. And yeah a princess type champ is what im thinking of.
Ah cool, ya I thought it might fit. Also I think Lux and Kat are both the top poster girls then lol. You make a good point about Kat, but I think lux kinda took over more recently with the Star Guardian cinematics and her Elemantalist lux one also. Lux first came to mind though cause I just see her so often compared to Kat in general. Anyway as you said they haven't really went too strongly in the princess direction for a champion, and Sona is the closest one for sure.
: You can get stacks of ultimate hunter before level 6. We've all been in games where fiestas start early. A fail invade got me to 3/5 before minions spawned on Pyke.
Exactly lol, that's a good example.
: "Riot's job is to keep the game fresh which is why it's unbalanced"
> [{quoted}](name=T34M5RH34VY,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sjRVpEje,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-02T16:47:19.477+0000) > > Yes, the game should be kept fresh, but Riot should attempt to do it without completely breaking it as well. Define, "completely breaking it as well," that is rather exaggerated and harsh. There is some subjectivity in there, which is understandable, but regardless even though some champions do get out of hand, which will follow with nerfs after some time has transpired, I believe Riot does what it does to please the collective playerbase. I believe their approach is the most practical approach to keeping the game popular given its overall success. Despite the problems and concerns that every game has Riot is good at what they do in keeping the game successful in general, as well as they do take our wishes and suggestions into consideration when making changes and updates. A sort of theory I have and a good example I can think of in Riot's approach to improve the game is drawing on what happened with urf. Apparently in short from what I read urf was removed because players enjoyed it a lot and it was making them enjoy the actual game less and players were decreasing, probably the reason we saw arurf instead of actual urf recently instead; additionally it should be obvious that urf is an extremely unbalanced game mode LOL. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Similarly I suspect it can be argued that making the game as balanced as possible is not ideal for the success of League of Legends, and keeping a high playerbase, thus perhaps a certain amount of champions getting fairly out of hand and becoming overpowered/underpowered every once in a while ironically is good for the success of the game as a whole. Perhaps to some extent they choose certain champions to specifically be that way at certain times based on the data and experience Riot has along with observing certain player preferences that perhaps want something different. Regardless if that theory of mine is true or not, we should have more confidence in how Riot makes improvements to the game, and they do take what we discuss into consideration when they make changes. Even if we don't get exactly what we want, it is likely good for the game as a whole given the information Riot has and their experience in improving the game.
: Infernos - Fire Mage Concept
Current champions dealing with Ice are Lissandra, Anivia, Trundle, Ashe, braum, sej, nunu. Current champions dealing with Fire are Brand and Annie.....lol, so I wouldn't mind another fire mage for sure. Brand is one of my favorite Mages, and I think I might like this one more. I especially like his ult and having a big AOE in fights would be awesome. I also like his e, and it will be funny people running from you when you are on fire haha. I can just imagine spamming an emote chasing a squishy adc who's low and about to execute them with that LOL. {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
Terozu (NA)
: Champion niche i find oddly unexplored.
I am a guy so I never really gave this much thought, and as as girl champs go I like the figher/assassin ones like Fiora(my favorite one); despite that you actually made me look through all the girl champs and the closest ones fitting what you described aside from Sona I could find was Lux and Janna LOL and both are kinda a stretch to the theme you brought up.{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Ya I agree and am a bit surprised Riot hasn't made a champion that has that theme...again Sona is there and kinda Lux and Janna. By what you said," An outright dainty girl. Prim and proper. Elegant and sweet," makes me think of like the princess theme with the beautiful dress look and being innocent, kind, and pure of heart. You make a good point. Lux I think is the poster girl for League, and I believe if they made one like you suggested it might join her in how popular Lux is. You have my upvote. This is definitely a good idea. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
VvVVvV (NA)
: League Stats
Would like to know more about this too. I use mostly op.gg and leagueofgraphs. You might like leagueofgraphs format more on your specific champion performance as it will show you your average kill participation damage taken/dealt compared to others in your elo as well as some traits such as if your unkillable in lane and if you roam a lot or are a good cser etc. I used to use a site that showed the most recent champions played in pro play via a big chart, it was interesting and helpful in case a match I did not watch had a champion I would like to see used in the lcs or other regions, so could watch the match and see how they did with them. But the site went down a while ago. I tried looking for another similar to it but closest I found was best.gg, but it isn't as good as the other site I used to use. I wish there was an option in the esports part of this site to quickly find if a specific champ was played in pro play, or if their is another site that does that. That site was super convenient.
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