: Cassio's damage is easier to avoid than ryze and takes longer to execute, dodging a Q or waiting out the long CD on miasma is feasible and that leaves her effectively unable to kill you, even her ulti is avoidable if you think shes going to use it and turn around . Ryze on the other hand had CC that was unconditional till very recently, and does good damage without even having the flux set up on his Q which also isn't very difficult to get set up. He does have less mobility than azir and Cassio do however but that makes sense because his damage was more reliable, even so I think that if the damage in his kit was toned down to be in line with the other two and his safety was up'd (Either by giving him MS in his kit or a self peeling options like azir (E and R) or cassio (W and R) he would be a healthier champion. Even without safety in his kit having him be both a burst mage and a DPS mage will never be healthy when its a 5v5 game where other people can help peel for him.
How is Cass damage less reliable? Hit them with giant aoe and spam e on them. Ryze you have to aim the q which isnt a fast projectile either cassio also keeps her opponents unable to flash or move away while you can flash and dash his q's. Theres no way you can say cass damage is easier to avoid it's a point and click lol
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EA88eEkd,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-12-08T16:18:22.901+0000) > > I mean old runes were cancer getting crit runes was fucking disgusting super unbalanced theres times you had 1 crit rune and get a double crit and kill the enemy. Is that fair and balanced gameplay? The other side is you might not get a single crit in a game? Old runes were cancer outdated and not needed. the chance of it making an impact was so small it shouldnt even be accounted for if you choose to all in someone. instead of taking that AD which can impact a lot of things, they invested in RNG bailing them out, which is fine.
Yeah but winning or losing a lane based on crit RNG is horrible game design. Also it's a lot more complex for new players as well I mean they have gold generation runes lol that increased your gp/5 that's insane.
Crashyy (EUW)
: +9 adaptive force, 8 armor, 6 magic resist, 15-90 HP...It's boring.
I mean old runes were cancer getting crit runes was fucking disgusting super unbalanced theres times you had 1 crit rune and get a double crit and kill the enemy. Is that fair and balanced gameplay? The other side is you might not get a single crit in a game? Old runes were cancer outdated and not needed.
klin537 (NA)
: That's actually disgusting. I honestly can't believe riot is like this. Like, shouldn't it be the opposite? You'd think inting and trolling would get you punished but it's _name calling_ that gets bans. That's ridiculous. Unfortunately it isn't likely that anything will be done about this.
> [{quoted}](name=klin537,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Nj1Ekb1E,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-07T22:03:02.348+0000) > > That's actually disgusting. I honestly can't believe riot is like this. Like, shouldn't it be the opposite? You'd think inting and trolling would get you punished but it's _name calling_ that gets bans. That's ridiculous. Unfortunately it isn't likely that anything will be done about this. It's hard to tell when somone is inting and when somone is just bad right? I mean unless your vocally saying hey I'm feeding fuck you then there isnt a way to tell. Have you never played a game where you fed your ass off? What if you got banned for that even though you wernt trolling
Tayzzer (NA)
: Can we get a 1v1 mode in league?
I mean honestly it would be super imbalanced. I think like a funny game mode but definitely not a competitive mode
: Crash is broken? What a surprise.
Fucking right{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: No they dont. Master Yi is immune to all cripples (attack speed slows) and slows during his ult..... Seriously, read his abilities.
Yeah so what about the other half of the time he doesnt have his ult up? Plus if yi ults and alphas you just ult him back
huhndog (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vh6WrATY,comment-id=00000001000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-07T06:00:23.216+0000) > > I mean what did aatrox have? His q is the same right? You dive into people and if you hit the sweet spot it knocked them up. His e was a slow and looks almost like his w does now. They just made him from an onhit machine to more of a skill expressive champ The thematic of his gameplay was an engage all-in approach. His q flat out puts him into the middle of the fight with no escape and was a really cool ganking mechanic. His new q is a glorified ranged poke. tbh I wasn't a fan of his old e and wanted some kind of change from it in their announced rework. His old w was a really cool mechanic trading off on how you wanted to setup your fight. His new w just sets him up for more poke. The old ult was a real double-down in team fights. Unlike malphite (whos supposed to have a tanky playstyle), Aatrox's ult let him fight his way out. Instead the new ult is just used as a kiting mechanic most of the time
I mean I love playing aatrox jungle I'm only mastery 6 with him but the new aatrox is so fun to play. His play style has become way to high risk for no reward now. He does a ton of upfront of damage and has great survival against other bruisers and tanks but against marksmen he just kinda gets destroyed and kited wayy to hard
: Cass counters Ryze, but shes harder to play than Ryze. Just because shes a counter, diesnt mean she is stringer than Ryze. Ryze literally can AOE 2-3 people in a teamfight just by oressing EQ. Cassiopeia is mainly single target damage, but she has much better CC.
Yeah but cass I'd say is strictly a better 1v1 champ while having a better impact in team fights I'm not saying ryze isnt strong but saying cassio is weak as an argument is just not true
: Acutally, Ryze Q is AOE. Dint lie to yourself. No Ryze starts with just Q In lane he has every easy poke with EQ. Cass W is irrelevant, because of its high early game cooldown. Lets talk about general damage. Cass doesnt have insta waveclear in the early game. Its easy to dodge Cassiopeia’s Qs. Unless you are melee with no dashes, then yeah its ginna be hard. Its oretty easy to dodge Ryze Q too, but Ryze has easier poke.
Q isnt aoe if ryze used e on the minions and hits you with a than you deserve it. When laning against ryze you move to the side so he cant push and harass you at the same time
Ornn (OCE)
: regardless with only 2 attack speed items he rips through a 400 armor 5k health tank while tower driving and surviving with almost full hp
Malphite slows his attack speed greatly. Honestly malphite counters yi pretty hard. I havent had a problem with that matchup
: Thing is cass isn’t nearly as tanky and is much weaker early (unless it’s a favorable match up) and most of her Damage is single target.
Bullshit cass is easily stronger than ryze at every point In the game
: Because If Cass misses Q, she does no damage for the next 3 seconds. Its not hard to dodge her q.
If ryze misses q he does no damage for how long? Cass still has her w? Casses q is also aoe ryze isnt aoe with his q. And f your getting hit by his eq combo in the minion wave your playing it wrong
: OP's response is correct. New conq seems to have pushed ryze a bit over the edge. I remember one of his reworks basically gave him spell vamp on all spells and AOE damage with em.
It's not just conq on ryze its conq in general ranged champs abuse it wayy too easily
Sirsir (NA)
: 2 months back Ryze didn't have conqeueror 2 months back did he even still have his shield? Or was that after he lost it and his E got changed? Nothing to do with LCS. Faker played Ryze in the LCS with great success for a long time when ryze had a 45% winrate. The Ryze of 2 months ago isn't the Ryze people are complaining about today.
Maybe not this post but ever sense he got changed and ryze was played he was like a troll pick and everyone flamed every ryze ever. Now that doingb popped off everyones making post sense then about ryze being completely busted which is kinda disturbing because before everyone just memed on him and he got no changes
: His damage just needs to be brought into line w/ every other DPS mage in the game, Azir, Cassio, Asol, there is NO stage of the game where one hit of their (minions, E, or Stars) respectively will do 1K damage but there is for ryze. If hes going to be a spammy machine gun mage thats fine, but he shouldn't be playing as a burst mage without cooldowns.
The problem is he has not mobility and 1 cc that's conditional so if hes weak he will just be dogshit. Azir has super long ranges and casio can stun a ton of people for awhile. Cassio is a better version of ryze with easier damage
: Maybe his damage should scale on %_current_ mana somehow. That way he'd get weaker as he casts spells. Then perhaps his passive could make his spells cost an additional 5% of his current mana and do 1 more damage per mana spent. This would put pressure on his mana base if he spams too much as well as encourage him not to spam too much if he wants to trade.
It's not even the mana damage it's the fact hes pretty bad till level 11 once you get the damage boost and max rank on q you hit like a fucking truck
: Thank you... But I think you left out their main problem... THEY CAN'T BEAT HIM. So yea riot should nerf him AGAIN!!! #FEELTHESARCASM
They shouldnt nerf ryze they should just buff other champions
: I mean some of the old champs dont have an existing powerbudget either, just ask Riven who has non-powerbudgeted animation cancels that makes her kit way too strong for what it should have been.
Woah man dont you know you cant talk about riven on here? Watch your back dude riven mains prolly at your house like the fbi to tell you why 4 dashes and a 3 sec sheild isnt op
: > [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LgnYrIGT,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-05T21:40:02.692+0000) > > Didn't get he a rework relatively recently? Kind of hard to call him old garbage. He's gotten so many reworks (precisely because he is favored by riot) that his powerbudget is nonexistent, just like new champions.
I mean one of the creators has ryze in his fucking name lol. Why do you think tryndamere keeps his ultimate that can be casted while cced and he cant be killed for 5 seconds litteraly give that to anyone else and they would be nerfed into the dust
: Ryze's problem is that he doesn't have a powerbudget. If he has a playmaking ultimate then his kit shouldnt be compensated for not having a damaging ultimate. Nowdays powerbudget only exists for old garbage champions and that is why balance sucks.
I dont think his ultimate is play making the biggest outplay you can do is reset turret aggro with it. His problem is his easy playstyle with a ton of damage. Before they rework his e he took skill but now his combos dont matter. His damage is also better but his passive suffered for it. So the great ryze players that used all his kit. Its prolly worse now. But new ryze players his damage is easier to apply
: Riot is doing nothing for league.
Pretty sure riot is bug fixing 90 percent of the time read the patch notes lol. Also the game is fairly balanced every champion is pretty viable if you can look at a champion and think that a challenger player couldnt beat me with that champion than the game would be horribly unbalanced
Kaluchi (EUW)
: I tried electrocute and dark harvest both are fine but not optimal or desired. The only reason I am rushing these high DPS builds because it actually works best on him right now. It's sad to see this happening but I am quite used to it. Quick side note: you still deal a lot of burst damage just not a lot of poke, since you'll only have around 0-20% max cdr usually 0 when you dont go for triforce.
I run comet for the lane for extra poke. Electrocute is probably bad because you cant just wq to get it. I'd say dark harvest maybe?
5050BS (NA)
: Also bad design and inconsistent. Procs are not spells
It's a spell that causes the damage so its apart of the spell it's not that inconsistent if it consistently happens
: as a jg main i love the jg changes now that skill is needed to win in the jg again
It's for sure less about skill. If any one of your laners die your just kind of fucked. You won't have the gold generation to counter act them invading you
macspam (NA)
: So nobody wants to play jungle?
Riot has increased the importance of jungle while nerfing the resources. Your either stuck perma ganking or perma farming and had made a jungler so weak that top and mid can just shit on them. You have to be constantly thinking about farming or ganking while keeping track of scuttle and rift and drake while also being under leveled and less gold so your weaker
94372148 (NA)
: Early game invades make the game worse and should be gotten rid of
I mean if your getting invaded start your other buff than clear the enemy side dont try to fight the invade
: How do you deal with Akali?
Honestly the thing about akali is she is strong 1-3 but her 4 and 5 arent strong. Fight after shroud goes away your more than likely to win depending on the champion
Morglics (EUNE)
: someone in your team has to ban her and thats all you can do
> [{quoted}](name=Morglics,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nPExhL7N,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T16:01:50.491+0000) > > someone in your team has to ban her and thats all you can do That's why she has a below average winrate right?
: Please Bring back Tribunal
Imagine having a bunch of inexperienced people that dont know about player behavior talk about player behavior... imagine a world where everyone on tribunal was looking for justice. Than imagine everyone who just trolls tribunal and punishes people for no reason...
SouL1ess (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=86400,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vh6WrATY,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-07T03:10:08.303+0000) > > Karma too! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CIWW1MEbUY I was gonna post this. Thank you. @OP, Aatrox is not even the "only deleted champion".
Me sitting here missing adc {{champion:104}}
: Well lets see -Yorick and Urgot were both left to rot for years as well, Galio too but he still seen more play than those 2, Yorick wasn't even in the f2p rotation for a long time, -Flat out did nothing for the 3 of them prior to rework -Also made kits that basically had little to do with the old champs, hell don't you remember how Urgots whole thing was the shotgun knees meme? -The Yorick/Urgot players, all 12 of us, knew no one would care those champs were gone since more comments about them were people complaining about how broken they were since they lost 1 game to them out of the 1000 games they've never seen them before Aatrox's story is unique, its just the most recent one I'm not trying to defend riot or anything, I'm not happy with these guys being removed, but to think Aatrox is special is kinda eeehhh
Old yorick was pretty fun tbh nothing like point clicking a ghoul to poke your opponent down
xWARx (NA)
: the other 3 still have hints at the old kits however aatrox is completely devoid of his style but his name no care at all in the champ design to keep the old one just complete new.
I mean what did aatrox have? His q is the same right? You dive into people and if you hit the sweet spot it knocked them up. His e was a slow and looks almost like his w does now. They just made him from an onhit machine to more of a skill expressive champ
: Please rethink what bust damage is supposed to be and should do in game.
I mean honestly what your saying is positioning isnt skill expression. It's kinda crazy that a zed main doesnt instantly promote to gm. While in high elo theres allot of singed 1 tricks that just shit over everyone not bursting down. The issue isnt burst damage
: Co-op vs AI is flooded by botting
Bro you can make a custom game or practice tool. If your learning a new champ I would reccomend doing this
: if u cant win vs bots then maybe it was good practice LOL
> [{quoted}](name=FLASH FLIP CTRL6,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xUjoczAE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-04T00:49:08.036+0000) > > if u cant win vs bots then maybe it was good practice LOL Lol this thread has to be fake. I've never heard of somone having to carry in cop vs ai
: why is her stun 3 seconds?
Lol I built a 3 star full ap malphite and did the same thing. The games about making a sick ass combo
: Minions should level up if they clap a champion im just saying, same with jungle camps
Lol like the rest of the game they spawn with an ie or something
: Has been described as extremely handsome in the lore since his release 9 years ago (and in the most recent stories about him too, spoilers for Realms of Runeterra)? Seduction is part of his themes and appeal (specifically power+sexuality)?
I mean matter of opinion I think he looks dope as fuck but that's just me
Kuro SF (NA)
: support items should ONLY nerf gold UNTIL COMPLETED
Look at your sentence damage carry support
Cõmega (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yaqFraZ6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-02T09:06:32.718+0000) > > It's because theres no reason to climb so people dont try Nothing changed, Climbing in preseason is the same as climbing during the season
It really isnt there isnt a reward so theres no reason and your tanks ganna get a reset
ƒrostγ (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o5fjEiwU,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T03:36:21.626+0000) > > Oof when hit with hard facts your best argument is my rank feelsbad Yeah, since in this case its obvious why you have that rank. Your lack of game knowledge is a solid proof of that.
Sorry that I do my research and it's not like I'm saying it's broken high elo players also say mages are busted
IainG10 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Avl67zp,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-02T09:15:56.855+0000) > > Mmr resets every season. Sometimes it's a soft reset and sometimes it's a hard reset There has NEVER been a hard reset afaik, and the soft reset is averaging you between your current and global average MMR, so your current MMR very definitely is still important.
> [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Avl67zp,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-02T18:46:06.796+0000) > > There has NEVER been a hard reset afaik, and the soft reset is averaging you between your current and global average MMR, so your current MMR very definitely is still important. So when a challenger player gets plat 1 after promos that's not considered a hard reset? Your mmr does reset you dont get plus 18 -20 lp
: Gameplay survey. Gameplay.
It doesn't say that it says riot survey not gameplay survey
: Can we revert all the bullshit changes to runes/masteries/jungle/supports from the past 2 seasons ?
I mean you cant say it's worse right? First you couldnt pick the stats you got and now you can. So it has gotten better
: > [{quoted}](name=ThisName1sDumb,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TLJ57arb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-01T22:37:30.232+0000) > > For all Riot's algorithm can tell, this account is probably no different from a new player Its called a captcha, and or linking account to phone number
So what about teenagers that cant have phones or people that cant afford phones? And robots can get past captcha you should youtube it
IainG10 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=xDogMeatx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Avl67zp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-02T00:05:04.677+0000) > > heres the question though if they gave out rewards why bother playing ranked if ranked is done? idk why bother if its gonna reset anyways. Because it doesn't reset; your MMR is NEVER reset, and the system weights your placement results on your prior, accumulated MMR. It's why new accounts can climb far easier than old accounts; you aren't carrying the weight of your improvements over time.
> [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Avl67zp,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-12-02T02:07:51.827+0000) > > Because it doesn't reset; your MMR is NEVER reset, and the system weights your placement results on your prior, accumulated MMR. It's why new accounts can climb far easier than old accounts; you aren't carrying the weight of your improvements over time. Mmr resets every season. Sometimes it's a soft reset and sometimes it's a hard reset
Zullar (NA)
: Apparently Discussing Burst and Mobility Isn't "Gameplay"
It's because of your topic... you header has to be about gameplay your topic says survey which has nothing to do with gameplay
: Can anyone explain how tanks can actually be tanks.
An azir shredding a tank in 6 seconds? IMPOSSIBLE
: Pre-Season players trolling?
It's because theres no reason to climb so people dont try
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