: I understand getting mad about people flaming you, despite the fact you can just mute them. But griefing people because you didn't get your desired role-- or worse, queueing up for a role you know the champion doesn't belong in-- is not cool. And I'm not sure why there are still players who don't know what APC means. An ADC is a physical-damage character that provides sustained range damage, _not_ the name of the position. You're not an APC just because you took them bot, same as how Darius wasn't an ADC just because he went bot in pros last year. An APC would be a champion who does the same job as an ADC, but with magic damage. Kayle's the main example, but Ziggs can also fill that role. A mage, though, is still a mage. Not an APC. You are playing a fundamentally different role. Which is fine as long as it doesn't completely screw over your team comp. If you've got a Kindred jungle, or Quinn/Vayne/Kayle top lane, then you're probably fine. But you, especially if it's your first time on the boards, need to learn that claiming "off-meta" doesn't justify griefing.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jVXoibw3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-19T04:21:29.174+0000) > > I understand getting mad about people flaming you, despite the fact you can just mute them. > > But griefing people because you didn't get your desired role-- or worse, queueing up for a role you know the champion doesn't belong in-- is not cool. > > And I'm not sure why there are still players who don't know what APC means. An ADC is a physical-damage character that provides sustained range damage, _not_ the name of the position. You're not an APC just because you took them bot, same as how Darius wasn't an ADC just because he went bot in pros last year. An APC would be a champion who does the same job as an ADC, but with magic damage. Kayle's the main example, but Ziggs can also fill that role. A mage, though, is still a mage. Not an APC. You are playing a fundamentally different role. > > Which is fine as long as it doesn't completely screw over your team comp. If you've got a Kindred jungle, or Quinn/Vayne/Kayle top lane, then you're probably fine. > > But you, especially if it's your first time on the boards, need to learn that claiming "off-meta" doesn't justify griefing. Taking other champs to different lanes doesn't mean someone is griefing, sometimes I take my {{champion:136}} into multiple different roles. Why? Because I can play him waaaay better than a champ more conventionally seen in those roles and often I do get hate for it from meta slaves(astounding that silver even has those tbh). Maybe take a step back from following the meta and maybe try thinking outside the box for once. Relying on someone else to make builds and strategies for you is already lame let alone enforcing those strats that you didn't create.
: Jayce MID is in a terrible state now, and he is unplayable as lower skill champs do more damage
You have it wrong with {{champion:31}} he's taken ap nowadays which makes him a big counter to ranged champs. I agree tho, I'm an asol player and asol has few counters of many that require any skill, it's just the state of the game right now (me assassin me one shot carries and get away for free) where assassins have absurd levels of agency. Also as a question, why mid? He's supposed to harass not burst mid lane is not suited for those champs.
aZ3R0n (NA)
: Trolls and flamers will always have alternate accounts and make new accounts to keep trolling and flaming. If someone is not going to play seriously in ranked games then they need to be removed from the ladder entirely. The account needs to be flagged as a troll account and have its access to ranked games removed. Simple.
> [{quoted}](name=xX aZ3R0n Xx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kk4ORGhX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-20T19:20:03.126+0000) > > Trolls and flamers will always have alternate accounts and make new accounts to keep trolling and flaming. > > If someone is not going to play seriously in ranked games then they need to be removed from the ladder entirely. The account needs to be flagged as a troll account and have its access to ranked games removed. Simple. This needs to be a thing, so sick of these players with their "ggff15" after second death top followed by afk int pushing/tunnel top till game end.
: Though the community thinks hate speech is funny and doesn't gaf about racism, riot does. If you see overtly racist or homophobic names - report them and that person will be dealt with. If you ask me there should just be a list of words you can't even put in your name to begin with. Like I know there is some already on a list, but they need to put more race, racist, and slur, words on that list.
> [{quoted}](name=xox BaByDoLL xox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jH3qbVRo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T06:38:48.317+0000) > > Though the community thinks hate speech is funny and doesn't gaf about racism, riot does. If you see overtly racist or homophobic names - report them and that person will be dealt with. > If you ask me there should just be a list of words you can't even put in your name to begin with. Like I know there i some already, but they need to put more race, racist, and slur, words on that list. I'll do you one better and say give them a message saying "that name is unacceptable" and just banning the kinda trash that still choose to bring those names into an already infamously toxic game.
: You got my vote. In my short time on this account, I have seen homophobia, racism, anti-semitism, slurs against those who have mental and physical handicaps, and sexism. This toxicity has been in account names, in pre-game chat, in in-game chat and post-game chat. Some of the reports I have made have been dealt with - but some of them have been outright ignored - as I have seen that the accounts are still active. Sometimes names that are explicitly aimed at provoking hate against certain groups are not even touched. This is not good, Riot. I thought that the company was supposed to be turning things around.
> [{quoted}](name=AB Thistle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uAsBfdHe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T05:50:55.926+0000) > > You got my vote. In my short time on this account, I have seen homophobia, racism, anti-semitism, slurs against those who have mental and physical handicaps, and sexism. This toxicity has been in account names, in pre-game chat, in in-game chat and post-game chat. Some of the reports I have made have been dealt with - but some of them have been outright ignored - as I have seen that the accounts are still active. Sometimes names that are explicitly aimed at provoking hate against certain groups are not even touched. > > This is not good, Riot. I thought that the company was supposed to be turning things around. Feelsbadman getting derogatory slurs thrown my way when people in pre game lobbies see my name. Been a lol player for two years and it's never been as bad as it has recently, and it fucking sucks that I'm addicted or I've packed it up so hilariously long ago. Wish riot would find a way to actually fix this, too bad they're probably busy with oppressing the employees that were harassed.
Xalcer (EUW)
: Trolling premades in rankeds strike again!
First off, fellow asol player, respect +. Second, just report them, sadly tho, u are probably right with them getting away with that, as without a manual review they will likely never get caught. With cases like this always use the text box in report or file a ticket.
Zorpinka (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Amateratsu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HzLGy36m,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2019-08-08T00:08:41.014+0000) > > Why tell them? It just provokes them and makes it seem like instigating on your behalf. If they're muted there's no need to tell them anything. There's is also no reason to troll aside from instigating and that doesn't get punished. If that's the only reason then I think he's safe since Riot doesn't punish that. OR because their system is assbackwards anyways it could get him punished because it would be seen as a distrust in their system.
> [{quoted}](name=Zorpinka,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HzLGy36m,comment-id=0000000000020000,timestamp=2019-08-09T01:19:36.976+0000) > > There's is also no reason to troll aside from instigating and that doesn't get punished. If that's the only reason then I think he's safe since Riot doesn't punish that. OR because their system is assbackwards anyways it could get him punished because it would be seen as a distrust in their system. You're right about trolling to instigate but you just play their game when you give them any sort of reaction. Want trolling to stop? Think of trolls as children misbehaving, either ignore it, or avoid it and it will cease to affect you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HzLGy36m,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-06T20:26:38.641+0000) > > Asking for reports, using reports as a weapon/leverage, and telling someone you're going to report them can be considered player harassment. > > It's better to just mute the person and report them at the end of the match, there's no need to tell them what you plan on doing. Okay, well could I get penalized for telling them that I am muting them?
> [{quoted}](name=Pyke Tyson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HzLGy36m,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-06T20:27:08.976+0000) > > Okay, well could I get penalized for telling them that I am muting them? Why tell them? It just provokes them and makes it seem like instigating on your behalf. If they're muted there's no need to tell them anything.
: I was chat restricted while everyone else goes unpunished
Premades need to be held accountable, I've had so many times where a premade will split up the shit they say so that no single one of them will be in range of a chat restriction off of that game. I know the whole "premades aren't a hivemind" run around, but you can choose who to premade with, so why give a community so long identified by its toxicity a way to further bully and harass others?
: Thank you Riot, the little indie company for a wordefull meta.
It's the current gaming trend, people like battle royales because they are fast, rewarding, and somewhat easy to play. Riot has taken many aspects of this trend to try to appeal to the demographic that plays them, that's why this stuff is happening.
: The report system
Get a clip of it from replay and send it in. Only idea I have against these types is to send physical evidence of what they are doing, otherwise it's the whole reasonable doubt situation. Hate these kinda trolls as for some reason it's "unclear" what they are doing even if they do it consistently.
: Thornmail needs to do a lot less reflection
Build armor pen lotta adcs and bruisers don't think to build the simple items that allow you to melt tanks. I mean I've been a 200 armor cho that was almost melted by a qwe zed combo, by a zed with ghost blade, dusk blade and nights edge. Build accordingly or don't complain when you have crit items vs a tank with like 60%+ physical damage reduction.
: PSA: If your top laner does NOT have prio DO NOT invade the enemy jungle.
Me EVERY time I'm vs illaoi it's like low elo junglers have no awareness. Same goes with matchups where I have the upper hand with wave control and a jungler comes top, fails the gank, dies, fucks up the wave and simultaneously starts a snowball all while blaming me.
: Why can't people *not* be decent human beings?
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9MpHZwEO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-06T04:23:56.938+0000) > > Why can't people *not* be decent human beings? As in you enjoy those types in real life I'm assuming? Someone has low standards.
Teh Song (NA)
: None of this justifies dodging, and have a report function would encourage that. Dodging is a worse thing to do than all the things you listed. A person dodging deserves to be reported and punished more than the people you're talking about. Mute the person, play the match, report them after.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1d2MNaoy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-08T01:18:50.071+0000) > > None of this justifies dodging, and have a report function would encourage that. > Dodging is a worse thing to do than all the things you listed. > A person dodging deserves to be reported and punished more than the people you're talking about. > > Mute the person, play the match, report them after. Uh what the f%%%? Have you ever played a game of lol that was toxic? Some games are so worth to lose 3 lp for the sake of others and yourself not getting griefed. Sit back down
: Conflating 'removing champions' with 'improving top lane' is selfish and short-sighted. I don't like playing against Riven, or Jayce, or Kennen, but I don't want to remove their abilities to lane. Even though they are demonstrably more powerful and actually see professional play.
> [{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4akB1iOI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T19:29:04.668+0000) > > Conflating 'removing champions' with 'improving top lane' is selfish and short-sighted. > > I don't like playing against Riven, or Jayce, or Kennen, but I don't want to remove their abilities to lane. Even though they are demonstrably more powerful and actually see professional play. He was just too strong. Period. Have had many many top mains both call out tahm kench for being way outta line in both low and mid and high elo. I have a fresh memory of a gold 3 getting their butt kicked by a tahm who was iron 1 I kidd you not. So it's not skill based its just that tahm is so far outta line.
: > [{quoted}](name=Amateratsu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pQIBTwmh,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-07-06T01:49:39.349+0000) > > Sucks for them, either keep quiet or accept it when you get the punishment. It's hilarious watching these people do this sorta thing then go on and on about how they didn't deserve ban. I've been both a victim and a bystander of people who harass people like this in lol and hate to say it but 1000% earned. but if im the one hes talking to and i didnt report him he shouldnt deserve it
> [{quoted}](name=Toxìc Akali,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pQIBTwmh,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-07-06T01:52:47.851+0000) > > but if im the one hes talking to and i didnt report him he shouldnt deserve it He said that in game logs if he said that in friend chat it would have been fine but yeah sorry that shit doesn't fly in lol and downvoting everyone telling you the harsh reality of their actions won't change this. Not in a million years.
: im his friend and we talk to eachother like this every game so theres no reason he should be banned for this the most is chat restrictions like if hes talking to me no one elses report should matter it only concerns me and him. thats like saying somone can calls the cops on someone for arguing in thier own home
> [{quoted}](name=Toxìc Akali,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pQIBTwmh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-06T01:28:26.672+0000) > > im his friend and we talk to eachother like this every game so theres no reason he should be banned for this the most is chat restrictions Sucks for them, either keep quiet or accept it when you get the punishment. It's hilarious watching these people do this sorta thing then go on and on about how they didn't deserve ban. I've been both a victim and a bystander of people who harass people like this in lol and hate to say it but 1000% earned.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Amateratsu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LMWE6N0F,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-06-15T17:54:04.087+0000) > > Its It's against the rules though, he did NOT communicate what he was doing and then tried to justify what he did. His adc probably got dove 24/7 if the enemy had a functioning brain. It's like they said, he's pretending that it's a real strat when he's messing around. Ok, im going to nip this in the bud with how utterly stupid a claim this is. You do not, and i repeat, do NOT, need your teams approval to do anything. Ever. Period. Do you ask your teams permission to play yasuo? Irelia? To build randuins? What boots to buy? No? Well guess what? You dont need your teams permission to support a different lane either. As long as you make a good faith effort to win, thats all you need to do.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LMWE6N0F,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2019-06-15T17:59:48.358+0000) > > Ok, im going to nip this in the bud with how utterly stupid a claim this is. > > You do not, and i repeat, do NOT, need your teams approval to do anything. Ever. Period. > > Do you ask your teams permission to play yasuo? Irelia? To build randuins? What boots to buy? > > No? > > Well guess what? You dont need your teams permission to support a different lane either. > > As long as you make a good faith effort to win, thats all you need to do. You need the team's consent if you're doing something whack, if not, that means you don't ask because you KNOW they won't like it and also means that there is now no difference between the strat and inting since the team has no clue what you're doing in a... wait for it, TEAM GAME.
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Amateratsu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XovdH4wP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:06:20.177+0000) > > I've pretty much heard that this was a stunt from him, he probably wouldn't have done this if nb3 wasn't on his team streaming. Tbh if this was in a low elo game, people wouldn't have even batted an eye to what he was doing, so it seems people fell for the bait of a troll using a streamer to become famous. I also thought of that, but i have no reason to think it was a stunt, but it's also a possiblity. I bet his sub number was boosted and name dropped a lot more, kinda like T1 after his ban.
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XovdH4wP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:13:22.405+0000) > > I also thought of that, but i have no reason to think it was a stunt, but it's also a possiblity. > I bet his sub number was boosted and name dropped a lot more, kinda like T1 after his ban. I mean it was a publicity stunt. When streamers get banned they tend to receive more attention than before, so that's why he did that, I think I heard someone say he usually roams but in the game with nb3 he stayed mid (seems likely he did this to start a fight since nb3 was streaming)
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: Nightblue3 situation and "off meta" players
I've pretty much heard that this was a stunt from him, he probably wouldn't have done this if nb3 wasn't on his team streaming. Tbh if this was in a low elo game, people wouldn't have even batted an eye to what he was doing, so it seems people fell for the bait of a troll using a streamer to become famous.
: If you have jg pressure expect tahm to get two kills
> [{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cZRcdIV5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T06:45:45.778+0000) > > If you have jg pressure expect tahm to get two kills Sad but true unless you or the jungler have cc or anti tank utility.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Its not trolling by definition. You not liking something does not make it trolling. Someone performing poorly is not inting.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LMWE6N0F,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:46:34.472+0000) > > Its not trolling by definition. You not liking something does not make it trolling. Someone performing poorly is not inting. Its It's against the rules though, he did NOT communicate what he was doing and then tried to justify what he did. His adc probably got dove 24/7 if the enemy had a functioning brain. It's like they said, he's pretending that it's a real strat when he's messing around.
: I am a Nasus player. I've played Nasus since season 2. I've got thousands of games on him.
Yeah... tahm is a pretty unfunny matchup for anyone. If you don't have jungle pressure, expect a bad time. I agree fully, he's way outta line in the solo lanes and it doesn't really take any sort of brains to play him. Nothing worse than a braindead champ that's way outta line. I even see it in silver and to say the least, I'd rather face a fed Darius than a tahm simply because he is so atrocious right now.
: Hearing that makes me feel better thanks, I know some games they have a system that will just close you out if you get enough so I was worried. :)
Yeah I've seen this a lot. The whole "9x report this player" thing is more of a bait for you to talk back to them and that will get you punished. So just learn when people are report baiting and don't give them what they want.
Shmeeve (NA)
: Judging by your username, are you this guy? https://www.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/FFXIV_Ultima_Weapon_Art1.jpg
Quáx (NA)
: Kha'Zix Damage discrepancy
To be honest, I consider khazix about the same as Lee sin as both are super strong early when the enemy isn't grouped but the instant they pack up as 5 you pretty much have to wait for an opening otherwise you just die over and over again
Kei143 (NA)
: They're aren't that many inters ot there. Are you sure you're not confusing people who are bad at the game with inters?
There are a lotta inters now, and always have been the system has just become obsolete in banning trolls. I mean in my norms games, junglers will straight up run it down if they don't get a leash even if they're not playing a jungler that has a bad clear and the system just lets it slide. As of about August of last year, I noticed that people were getting away with zero tolerance behavior, so it definitely seems like the system has been lax on punishment.
Kelg (NA)
: {{champion:31}}
As an almost 300k cho main I think he has aged super well, maybe another vgu and reverting the ulty's recent update; it looks so censored now opposed to when it used to shower blood when he feasted. Maybe a feral scream rework since it feels clunky when fighting a dash spammy champ, but to be honest with what I've seen of reworks recently I don't want cho going through that same shit where he's nerfed super hard and has to always be weak or end up being OP af. Just an opinion tho, they might do it right tho {{champion:31}}
Cloud273 (NA)
: How would you add more skill expression into Sona's kit?
Um maybe make her damage skill shot based so it doesn't feel like you're vs keyboard cat. Leave the utility but make it less trivial for her to harass in laning phase.
Quáx (NA)
: Did you guys watch/like love, death + robots?
Yeah its a great show just maybe watch alone tho... not gonna lie its prob like a nsfw rating
: Riot's New Logo - I actually like it
Why do you like the new logo? its simple, uninspired, and unnecessary change simply for the sake of change usually ends up being non productive, aka this logo change
: Same. About 5 years and I am still permabad lol
This is me when I get flamed for feeding on {{champion:136}} and they mention my 500k mastery points
: Re-designing the League of Legends logo for a NEW Generation!
I really despise the new logo tbh. Tyler was right its strained innovation
: I'm not sure what the hell is wrong with Riot when reviewing usernames
Prob a bot reviewing so it probably saw the rape in grape, and since its not human, took that as an innapropriate username. Moral of the story is dont use bots that can mess up where a human cant
: From what I've understood, you downvote to disagree with something. Nothing wrong with a little disapproval imo.
Well, unfortunately, low votes on threads and comments tends to hide them so in a way it's more silencing them than giving a counterargument and giving them a chance to prove their side, so in my opinion, votes on a forum are destructive to an environment where people come to voice views and opinions, as people can simply act uncivilized and shut someone up instead of providing a counterargument which is what they want.
: Camille passive
It's meant to have counter play that way tho, remove the last ability effect and u get a dive champ with no counterplay
Madsin25 (NA)
: What if you are a one trick and the enemy team bans your champion?
Good point. Think the idea was having to forfeit 3 lp cuz someone holds a pregame lobby hostage, tho this would be big abuseable for one tricks
: I love that lissandra is getting gutted meanwhile riven is still allowed to be as strong as she is
Idk tbh I think riot knows riven is a trash moba character design and that without brainless damage, cc, mobility, and shields, she'd be underpowered. Kinda like rengar, where he is only strong or weak, never balanced.
Boppas (NA)
: Why lose LP for dodging
Tbh I agree, only way I am ok with 3 lp dodge is if holding a pre game lobby hostage is bannable.
Shmeeve (NA)
: What if I told you there are some champions that don't need a leash
Cuts to low elo where despite the champ, junglers will always run it down if they receive no leash acting like an entitled brat
: someone has to be a prick and ruin the fun and take all the downvotes. and since im a katarina main and i hate everyone else :^) i must do it. 420 69 666 lolxd trolled
What a guy
: I went 7 1 3 with {{champion:136}} Nerf pls.
Feelsbadman, getting my main nerfed {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
mack9112 (NA)
: I’ve seen plenty of zeds be useless and feed
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KOLGQem2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-07T23:25:27.141+0000) > > I’ve seen plenty of zeds be useless and feed Bad ones, that is. I’m a silver player and zed is a MUST ban in my elo cuz either my mid feeds him or he does one of his good ol 2 second roams bot and insta gibs my support AND carry and snowballs from there. Either zed’s damage or duskblade need to go it’s hillarious knowing a game is lost just from champ select alone most of the time.
: who Can make the BEST meme out of this picture.
My feeling when my team whiffs their bans and I get a riven, Yasuo AND and Vayne on the opposite team in my ranked game.
: Trying to AA Jax
You forgot the part when the dude dancing suddenly jumps on and blows up the other dude.
: So uh... that new Zed skin.
Just looked at all the new skins. Does anyone else think the IG skins look like claymores?
: > [{quoted}](name=Amateratsu,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=vGzAAAA5,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-02T17:08:33.328+0000) > > That is jungle twitch, that doesnt count as an adc since he hides his weak early game by jungling okay so lets say you're right and he doesnt count as an adc so what does he count as? Because i can say zed hides his horrendous late game by getting fed early.
Twitch is one of the harder snowballing champs tbh late game he is just a Pentakill champ, but I wouldn’t group him with many other adcs as he’s basically in a league of his own with late game damage
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMDo8ycdNs&t=11s First play says enough
That is jungle twitch, that doesnt count as an adc since he hides his weak early game by jungling
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