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: > [{quoted}](name=Seannà,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJinrA2E,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T21:06:47.680+0000) > > Sure. Might as well. Just throw something out there, since everything else you said is complete waffle and misses the entire point I made over and over agaaaaaaaain. I would say i was spot on tbh; i told you that straight up you cant see improvement unless you are looking at specific stats as well as time line along with it. for instance you could play a champ 5 times and pop off 3 of them but the next 15 games you play you only have like a 1 kda and when you win you barely win. I think honestly for you; you don't play a specific role or champ long enough to actually see improvement, i am pretty sure you prolly bounce around all through the game with your champs and lane and because of that you can't see any consistent results. I'll tell you want to do now and if you don't like it then i don't really care 1) Go on Youtube and look up Jungle Pathing for each one of these champs, or you could look up just some guides on how to play each to give you a idea of what a optimal play looks like on the champs 2) Your new role is Jungle 3) Play these 4 champs only 1 Amumu 2 Vi 3 nocturne 4 nunu These 4 champs are different and there are a few similarities between a couple but for the most part treat them as individual learning. Learning specific power spikes is actually really important in this game and the reason why i recommend jungle rather than something like support is because flat out I think you need something that will keep you engaged and challenged. I don't doubt that you have probably played 1 or all of these champs but I have a goal for you. 100k mastery for each in the jungle restrict yourself just to those 4, learn the ins and outs of those specific 4 champs, play only those 4 champs in the jungle, learn how to gank and counter gank and also i would recommend (if you haven't already) going to mobalytics, punching in your summoner name and start tracting your stats and also comparing them to ppl in your elo that way you know what and when you are improving on. No more bouncing around to different roles, no more playing any champ whenever you feel, get on that site put in some effort to looking at your stats and personally i look every 10-20 games on mobalytics to see where i am relative to ppl in my elo or above that way i always know what i need to be working on. For example there was a while where my vision score was really low BUT i didn't actually know it was low because i just assumed having a single digit vision score was fine but when i really started looking to improve I saw that my vision score was so horrid AND NOW my vision and map control is actually much higher than the relative stats in my Elo, like i flirt with map control scores around Plat+ because i saw that if i really wanted to improve that was something that was honestly easy enough to work on since its not conditional on anything other than if i have wards up. JG is imo a better overall role because for 1 you are pve like 80% of the time and you don't have to worry about being harassed in lane (although counter jg is a thing) also you are free to do a lot, you aren't restricted like support and you can literally go and do anything and have a impact. I say you should play JG learn literally everything about JG and then consistently look at your stats. JG teaches you map awareness and lane awareness on a hyper sort of way and it's more challenging then ppl let on but i think you need to invest your time in something that is easy to pick up but also has a difficult and challenging way to master it and that's why I suggest the champs I did because they aren't extremely challenging by any means but i want you to really learn all of the nuances of each of those 4 and how they interact differently but also what can transfer between. Now maybe you are like "Nah im good" which is up to you but honestly i think you have been playing too many champs in too many different roles for too long and that's why the game seems so meh because you can't actually feel like you are involved or consistently the win condition and i would say that's the thing i am trying to help with
Those are the easiest jungle champions in the game. I'm not looking for a free win. Jungling also isn't a fun role
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: The first thing I would recommend is to pick one champion you do feel comfortable with, and then one-trick it. But before you do that, pick a lane you feel comfortable with. Learn how to use that champion against everyone you encounter to whatever degree. The rest should fall into place. Four years of playing and having a hard time with skill shots? Sounds to me like you may not be mastering champions first. What is making me feel better at the game, to be honest, is playing a ton of ARAM. That might be the way to go.
I don't feel comfortable with any champion or role, though! Or, rather, there's something extremely annoying about each role that turns me away - and, as far as champions are concerned, I'm only "comfortable" with the same no-skill champions that any new player could win on. It's not really something I'm going to main.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Seannà,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJinrA2E,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T18:26:21.822+0000) > > I think you're misunderstanding. I've been playing for a long time, consistently. I have tried practicing champions - the issue is I notice no improvement. When I say I play everything, I don't mean I play a different character every game, I mean that I've invested time into every champion for multiple games and found no success. > > I know the importance of a champion pool. That's what I'm trying to find - but i do not believe people pick the champions they want to play out of thin air. Chances are, they already have some success with that character relative to others, and then decide to main them and learn them more. I don't have that. I don't know who to play basically. ok so what you described are a lot of different things for starters you say you play multiple games with multiple champions and found no success but also haven't noticed improvement. That statement is already going back to what i previously said about having a narrow champ pool and understanding the nuances of the champs. For example a very hard to learn champ like Kallista or Azir is going to take me a lot of time and practice before i can actually become proficient with them because of the nature of the kit. Just because i pop off 1 game out of 20 doesn't mean i am good at the champ or have improved if anything i just got lucky; measuring improvement is something that can only be done by time; so if you play 30 champs 4 times each you wouldn't actually ever be able to see any improvement on them even if occassionally you pop off on 1 every 5 games the margin for you to actually pop off is going to be dramatically lower because you don't have the knowledge to consistently execute. If you are looking to "improve" i would first say what are your stats right now? and which stats are you looking to improve upon. I am a support main also and i play around 4 champs consistently as my mains and i dabble around with a few others when i am thinking about adding them to my pool i play a lot of games with them; like I am considering adding Neeko to my champ pool and until I reach a point where i can consistently perform with her and win then I wouldn't consider her till then. Most of my champs that i play/main almost all have similar stats in KDA as well as WR% because i generally put a lot of time into trying to be comfortable but that doesn't mean i play at some insane level or whatever but a level of consistency that i feel like i can win for the elo i'm at the biggest part in improvement is first off you don't bail on the champs the minute you start losing or because you saw someone else pop off on something else and i would say you just need to commit to 3 champs to start with in the role you play and only play those. If you say "I don't know what to play" then i would say since you've already said you have played every champ then it's about time for you to man up and decide which particular 3 you want to invest the most amount of time in and stick with those 3 even when you are not doing well on them I recommend 3 because you seem like you get bored easy or have problems making decisions. 3 Champs that are different from 1 another in playstyle or possibly similar, thats up to you as well For example when I first started playing support I used 'Bard and Taric' only those 2; now i don't play them so much anymore but i still can if i want. I eventually added Galio to the pool as well as Zilean and Zyra; so my pool is up to 5 but i feel confident and comfortable on all of them even if i don't play bard and taric too much anymore. I generally like to look at my mastery pts as a general level to aim for and i know mastery doesn't seem to matter much in a lot of ways but i found it to be a decent measuring stick to see where i want to invest my time. I want my champs that are in my main pool to have around 60k mastery minimum for me, see i'm not super mechanically gifted and it takes me awhile to get use to combo's and how to fight with them consistently so i figured for me to use 60k as a break point. There are other champs that i have at the 60k mastery point that i experimented on or thought about adding to my main champ pool, Thresh is one that i really wanted to but even after a fair amount of play I was just too inconsistent with him and also at this elo you gotta pop off on him really hard to carry and generally i sorta can play him but not consistently enough even after the 40-60k mastery i have on him i'd rather invest the time some where else. If you are looking to improve then you have to first have standards, if you have no standards or goals then you are just setting yourself up to fail. So when you say you want to improve, what is it you are trying to improve on? If you are having trouble finding champs to stick with then i would say either A) change roles or B) you need to have better dedication if you are trying to improve. Lastly, idk what champs you play most often, i know some ppl who play a champ in ranked and bounce around to a different champ every 10-15 games and it's so weird imo since i know some champs require a lot of time to get better with (unless you are like already plat+) I'll tell you what to play if that's what you want, is that what you want?
Sure. Might as well. Just throw something out there, since everything else you said is complete waffle and misses the entire point I made over and over agaaaaaaaain.
: Losing lane on Garen is for the most part the status quo. More so the higher up you go in the ranks, especially if you play him top.
I'm not playing in any kind of high elo, lmao. I should be trashing people with that champion.
: I never get that. I been playing since season 5 and I've had 6 mains, all of which I played over 200 games on. How is it you haven't found a single champion you really enjoy? All my mains had that in common, I could play them for hundreds of games and not get bored.
I don't, uh I don't know. I guess there's just not one single playstyle that I'm most attached to or really enjoy above others. To clarify, I don't really get bored of any of these champions - I just find that I'm not improving even with several games played, and getting trashed over and over again sort of sucks the fun out of ANY champion.
CurS1VE (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Seannà,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJinrA2E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-15T17:51:27.726+0000) > > Everything. > > I've played basically everything and there's no one thing I play consistently. The role I default to is support, but only so I don't have to focus on farming. I don't actually play support champions. > > I play this game basically every day. It's my main passtime. I don't look up stuff about my champions besides occasional items or runes - I want to be the one playing the game, not whoever writes those guides. So you want to improve but don't actually look for ways to improve. You want to win but spread yourself out around every champ without ever really learning the nuances of the champions as well as their strengths and weakness as well as the matchups. Sorry to say but you probably will continue to lose so long as you have the attitude and tendency that you just said. This game is built around practicing till you have a very good mechanical and mental understanding of what you are and aren't capable of in scenario's and the more you play the more you learn how to deal with scenario's that you haven't dealt with before. This is also why people talk about sticking to a small champ pool and playing those a lot. If you were actually wanting to win you already would've started to do those things. Sorry man but the short answer is probably you have really poor tendencies to developing winning characteristic. Change those and you'll prolly win more
I think you're misunderstanding. I've been playing for a long time, consistently. I have tried practicing champions - the issue is I notice no improvement. When I say I play everything, I don't mean I play a different character every game, I mean that I've invested time into every champion for multiple games and found no success. I know the importance of a champion pool. That's what I'm trying to find - but i do not believe people pick the champions they want to play out of thin air. Chances are, they already have some success with that character relative to others, and then decide to main them and learn them more. I don't have that. I don't know who to play basically.
CurS1VE (NA)
: I suppose there are a few things i'd ask What role do you play most often? What champions do you play most often in those roles? How many games have you played with those champions? How invested in the game do you feel? Do you look up strats or combo's with champs? how often do you play? You said you play for around 4 years but if you only play like twice a year then that means you are still technically a pretty new players. (just as a example)
Everything. I've played basically everything and there's no one thing I play consistently. The role I default to is support, but only so I don't have to focus on farming. I don't actually play support champions. I play this game basically every day. It's my main passtime. I don't look up stuff about my champions besides occasional items or runes - I want to be the one playing the game, not whoever writes those guides.
: There has to be a champion you enjoy playing. If you can't find one that's enjoyable to you then i would suggest quitting.
I enjoy any champion I win on that isn't brainless, and I hate every champion I lose on. I enjoy the game itself.
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