: > [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bVN3ZVEz,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-05-28T21:25:59.576+0000) > > When you see melee lane bully mains rant about how broken ranged lane bullies are. > > https://i.imgur.com/1WU8ron.jpg[] As a jayce main, yep
Nobody really cares what you main tbh
inDJ (NA)
: Petition to change Yuumi's title to "The Feline Familiar"
That vote is quite biased, just because you bring up facts before the actual question being asked.
Haziv (EUW)
: Zed vs Shen event ?
Riot already missed out on the best opportunity, Rengar v. Kha'Zix!!!
: What if... when you hit Rengar with non-displacement-hard-CC during his passive/Ult leap...
If you wanted to change this on Rengar you would have to change it for all champs with similar interactions, like Tristana or Kha'Zix.
Hjelp (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sleepcoma,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=4s1E9EXP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-06T05:25:54.533+0000) > > If ur against a tank take klepto and farm off of them. Max W and stack early cdr. Dont use empowered Q in lane unless it guarantees a kill, empowered W is better for trading, I understand how to play but regardless of how you play, tanks will outscale you, bruisers will beat you in lane THEN outscale you, and you still can't outtrade lane bullies early on, so they still get the cs lead they want.
If you're gonna ignore everything I said im not gonna try helping u sorry! P.S. Rengar is a lane bully and a bruiser.
: These VI nerfs are a joke
Yeah they're a joke because shes getting buffed.
GigglesO (NA)
: Revert penetration formula...
Not sure what you're talking about, lethality items are trash. Assassins build them because they have nothing else to build.
Raurath (NA)
: Fixing Yi maybe soon ?
Riot has the data, not you. If Master Yi was too strong in low elo they'd probably nerf him!
Hjelp (NA)
: Rengar Top Rant
If ur against a tank take klepto and farm off of them. Max W and stack early cdr. Dont use empowered Q in lane unless it guarantees a kill, empowered W is better for trading,
: Its hard to remember that there are more than 100 champions in this game
Imagine thinking Zed is strong lol. These champs are annoying though ill admit that.
: Fuck off Worlds Meta was Toplane and Midlane Enough victim complex
Wow 2 champions were strong top. Congrats, now we're back to tanks top whose job is literally to babysit the adc. Mid is always relevant regardless of game balance, cuz they're in the middle of the map and can roam either top (lol) or bot.
: you'll feel that way until you get out of silver and realize that top lane has had the most agency over the game since preseason 7
I think you got that backwards, top has had the LEAST agency over the game since even before season 7. Top has been irrelevant since like preseason 6.
Terozu (NA)
: Uhhh from what I've seen Nasus, Rek Sai and Yorick have been the ones the games are focused on.
Nasus is a terrible champion and always will be. No mobility, no cc besides a slow, and hes a terrible early game champ, and gets outscaled by actual tanks.
: True, but still, the OP has a point. You literally can't react to him and Riot really needs to address this kind of stuff.
Maybe if you're against a fed Rengar you should build some armor items. Seekers armguard negates pretty much all the lethality hes ever gonna build.
: It was a sign of disrespectful behaviour that´s why they are being punished. If you guys could stop your "muh sexism towards males" you could actually have a point. Letting 5 diamond players play in a high competitive environment is actually pretty fucking disrespectful and just ends competitive integrity then and there and should be a punishable offense. Especially considering they had an actual roster which was sacked to let the girls play for PR purposes.
Its more disrespectful to put 5 plat players into a professional scene while on off roles then to ban 5 supports against them.
: It's not the first time that this happens, he doesn't get enough damage from crit now to justify a different build. This way you cna still deal a decent amount of damage and keep those knuckups up.
If he doesn't build crit he's useless lol. Imagine playing a champion and just not using their passive. Why would anyone handicap themselves that hard. Think about how bad Brand would be without his passive.
: If the current plan goes live, Yasuo is getting turned into a top lane bruiser. He and Urgot are losing tons of midgame damage. Cant wait for {{champion:157}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3080}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3231}} {{item:3022}} builds
Why would you ever buy 3 lifesteal items on a champion that relies on crit.
: Riot's bias towards Yasuo, Lucian etc. really annoys me.
Mages have been the best pick in mid lane for the last 3 or 4 ish seasons I think? Karma doesn't have a positive win rate because shes too versatile, can build tank, ap, and support. Most of those mage items you listed as "weak" definitely aren't weak, just niche, and that's fine. Brand, Zyra, and Morgana to an extent have some of the most unfun kits to play against, with long range poke and cc.
floo (EUW)
: Which melee even buys Rageblade aside of Yi?
I'm not even sure, its too weak for melees. Its ok on udyr, but there are better options for him.
: what about kayle who is already in a bad spot who desperately relies on rageblade
: > [{quoted}](name=Sleepcoma,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nn7YquN0,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-01-26T21:36:03.717+0000) > > Or make rageblade a melee only item because all abusers are ranged champs. Didn't know Yi was a range champ. TIL.
Yi doesn't abuse it thought lol, its called synergies. Vayne on the other hand is doing 14% max hp damage every 2 autos from range. Its nearly impossible to stack rageblade as a melee champ.
: Yes, it is. Imo, make Silver Bolts an on-attack effect instead of an on-hit effect. That would curb Vayne's abusiveness with Rageblade. Or, you know, finally replace Phantom Hit with something different and accept that doubling on-hit effects might not be a healthy mechanic.
Or make rageblade a melee only item because all abusers are ranged champs.
: But the game is fine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebEONk7TSY Right? Cause it's balanced when an assassin can 2.25 second kill a built tank. Without using ulti.....
Imagine acting like any mage cant do the exact same thing...
Phhase (NA)
: Honestly, enchanter meta was better. Gave Supports value, in return for becoming a primary target. Here's an idea: introduce better anti-healing items.
Try playing an assassin in an enchanter meta, you cant even kill the support with an entire burst rotation.
: > [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gAuyGgV6,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T01:56:02.995+0000) > > Its not about lacking counterplay. Its that all they want is immunity to counter play. > > All rengar mains want to do is Press R Jump at someone and have the enemy die. Run away do it again. > Rengar...is...shit design period > All Zed Mains want to do is press R, Hit one auto jump away and have you die. > Zed has massive counter play if you sport an iq over 80 > Tanks and enchanters bring real counterplay to the game. Not just this "Kill me faster or lose counterplay" Lulu used to be able to stop rengars from nuking targets just with R+shield. Good luck stopping him before he kills your adc in .25 seconds now. Yeah dude, press w to shield someone for 50000hp then press q to knock them up and e to slow them Also give 5k of gold to your allies Oh then theres tanks Press q to stun, w to make you not die, e to slow, and r to totally outskill the enemy team by stunning them for like 45 minutes These things are so much fun to play against and totally dont require specific items and champs to counter You can outplay an assassin in an assassin meta with any champ You cant outplay a tank in a tank meta with any champ
lmao @ boards downvoting people with actual brain cells
WoOxêr (EUW)
: assassins must have counterplay he have none, neither Rengar, especially Rengar.
KazKaz (OCE)
: That is the biggest lie I've ever heard. Zed's far from balanced, at least after the multiple Q damage reduction removal. He's not weak and he's not balanced. However, he's not thaaat strong, so he ends up being a solid A tier pick, S tier for one tricks.
riot even said he has a sharp design, which means he shines really well when he can execute his combo properly, and when he cant he is pretty useless. there's too many counters to zed in the current meta, for example stopwatch items, taking armor in runes and mostly all supports.
Yussup (NA)
: he's a bit strong with the current items.
lol zed is weak, try playing him hes terrible
KazKaz (OCE)
: Actually it's assassins that have almost always been "balanced" (except for a select few _cough_ Zed, Kha'zix and LB _cough_), it's just that they're by far the most frustrating class to fight for most people. But yes, they turned everyone into an assassin.
Zed is the most balanced assassin, but is just really weak right now.
: Akali has an extremely low win rate and an insanely high ban rate. She's not that strong but she's really unfun to play against. She's the perfect example of bad game design.
She's strong when you know how to play her... she has a high skill curve.
: except mages haven't yet
mages are literally always the best pick mid for the last 3 to 4 years now
: I still wonder up to this day why people get IE first before any crit items...
> [{quoted}](name=Dragneels,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=26JQtFLK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-17T16:08:57.864+0000) > > I still wonder up to this day why people get IE first before any crit items... I haven't seen anyone do this once lol.
: please look and rengar and leblanc again.
hmm, I looked in your match history and just found you just lost to a rengar who was very far ahead while playing adc, the class rengar is meant to kill... not a surprise
Seenan (NA)
: I think phantom hit needs to go
How about it's locked behind a scaling jungle item that only procs every 4 autos for ranged champs.
: Lacks some {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:119}}
saltran (EUW)
: Fizz with that omegaLUL Imagine letting the Gameplay Boards balance the game acording to the most upvoted posts here.
Most of the playerbase would quit lmao, especially gold+. Just because one person complains and another hops on the bandwagon doesn't mean they're right
: Yeah you can't even build GA on a Mage or a Tank anymore without being called a troll. I'm for the revert.
mages have zhonyas though, which is arguably better than ga, and is usually built as a second or third item on literally everyone that uses it.
: I should not be forced to lose LP for this
Same thing happened to me in my solo/duo placements, feels pretty bad.
: {{champion:7}} fucking. BULL SHIT. CHAIN LENGHT
do you really think riots gonna listen so such an immature comment like this?
floo (EUW)
: If you'd play adc/supp you'd see how it is easily 1/5th - 1/4th of your max hp early on.
at level 3 its 130 damage, pretty sure thats not 1/5th of anybodys max hp
floo (EUW)
: Ignite debatable.. depends if you enjoy seeing 1/4th of your health in true damage 3-4 times on the enemy team or not. Would still like to see duskblade removed, but they nerfed it in a rather acceptable state. Generally true tho, a lot of complaints about the last enemy champ who beat em up etc...
look at the numbers. you’re actually an idiot lmao. it definitely doesn’t do a quarter of your hp bar. if duskblade gets removed assassins will be even more shit than they already are.
floo (EUW)
: There will always be someone who complains about any rework and how it's the worst one ever..
Yes, but on the boards there will always be 5 complaints about the same things over and over that aren't actually a problem (literally any assassin, ignite, duskblade)...
: I'm Still Furious about Sejuani.
What are you talking about? maokai and kat were two of the worst reworks out of the class updates.
: Leblanc is pretty much 100% pick/ban at worlds
She's strong, not broken, but im pretty sure the boards don't know the difference.
: but muh LC$
but lcs is over, and riot would fix it if it was actually a problem
: You know, sometimes when a lot of people point out a problem... it's actually a problem...
You know, when people with no idea how the game works complain about something, they are the problem not the game. Why would riot take balance ideas from someone in bronze, because they're opinions are backed up by the fact that they don't know how to play the game.
: What kind of question is this and why does it has so many upvotes
the boards are full of little kids who bandwagon and complain
InTheory (EUW)
: I said it before and I say it again: The day you decide to nerf Nami officially shows how insane the balance team is. The fact that players actually asked for nerfs to Nami because they were reading a Number > 50% is a confession of failure on players’ side as well. That Nami evolved a high winrate is caused by a bunch of factors: >- nerfs to enchanters on a global level (cutting heal & shield power) did not affect her as much >- nerfs to shield enchanters (shield durations, decay) did not affect her at all >- nerfs to enchanters on an individual level when they provided too much peel for their marksmen without bringing anything else to the table did not affect her of course >- nerfs to supports that were pick/ban in LC$ (Tahm Kench, Braum, Rakan, Shen) did not affect her >- nerfs to support itemization resulting in one less health pot at the beginning of the game did not affect her as much Result: The competition around Nami on the support position has systematically been nerfed to a point where supports are slaves again. All the points that I mentioned that are nerfs to the support position but still favors Nami because she is most likely to play against an opponent that suffered way more from any sort of nerfs before. Asking to nerf Nami is asking to further nerf the support position. You want to be autofilled even more into the support position? Go ahead and ask for further support nerfs. --- Nami has always been top tier in terms of - Gameplay Design: She’s no stupid heal/shield bot but is really fun to play. The player can actually decide to play passively or aggressively depending on circumstances and how lane plays out early without being dictated one playstyle by the “balance” team. - Fairness: Even though she has an over average high winrate she remains a super low ban rate. Players always liked to play against a Nami and even do so when she’s that strong compared to her direct competitors. - Balance: Nami barely ever found her way into patch notes outside of a) bug fixes or b) general stat changes that affected a whole bunch of champions at the same time anyway. Even the last real buff was surprising and unnecessary but the “balance” team went through with it anyway for reasons. I asked several times that if they’d ever think about nerfing Nami they should just revert her Q buff. She was balanced before that change, rather balanced even afterwards. Now they go again with some experimental changes because that has always worked out as we all know. --- Taking a look at top supports in diamond plus via leagueofgraphs.com shows that the top supports are all focused on either poke-damage or all-in damage. Nami with her strength to heal up poke damage especially in a situation where she can get the double bounce and her strength to counter all-ins if played properly put her on top of the current meta. All that is not because her numbers are good but because her gameplay favors the meta and everything that could do the same job is basically nerfed to the ground. Asking to nerf Nami because of that is basically asking #PLEASE RIOT WE NEED MORE DAMAGE ORIENTED SUPPORTS PLEASE ADD MORE DAMAGE TO THE GAME. If you ask me you should ~~fire~~ move whoever came up with that nerf to a different area in the company like the cafeteria. But make sure to not let them pile food because they don’t really know how to balance things properly.
There's a reason people like you don't get responses, all you know how to do is brainlessly complain.
Mythrandill (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sleepcoma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A2xL6X3h,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-10-02T17:33:18.764+0000) > > So you want to make assassins even more useless? Give me a good argument on why assasins are useless. Because ad assasins need {{item:3134}} to fuck you in lane not to mention {{item:3147}}
> [{quoted}](name=Vastayan Soul,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A2xL6X3h,comment-id=000400010001,timestamp=2018-10-03T08:57:13.677+0000) > > Give me a good argument on why assasins are useless. Because ad assasins need {{item:3134}} to fuck you in lane not to mention {{item:3147}} {{item:3191}} negates the lethality from {{item:3142}} AND {{item:3147}} for only 1100 gold, not sure why youre complaining. The job of an assassin is to kill ONE target very fast and get out, and if they can't do that they have no purpose because they're squishy and usually melee champs who build full damage. If they don't kill the adc they were going for then the adc turns on them and kills them because they used all their cooldowns.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sleepcoma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A2xL6X3h,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-10-02T17:33:18.764+0000) > > So you want to make assassins even more useless? Its rare to go against a mage that isnt Lux on midlane. Atleast for me. So yeah, no
> [{quoted}](name=RaikoPlays,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A2xL6X3h,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2018-10-02T19:52:37.613+0000) > > Its rare to go against a mage that isnt Lux on midlane. Atleast for me. So yeah, no In my games its almost always mages, and lux is never one of them.
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