: Caitlyn Much Needed Change Riot Read!
As a cait main 1 - no she doesn't need it you get a icon already and I tell by her gun visual effect since it kinda glows depending on the skin, the sound is nice but i rarely use it as i listen to music as I play 2 - Q isn't used in a fight unless they are out of auto range, having it go off quicker makes 0 sense for her kit. It is an unneeded buff for her as you use Q just as a fight is about to start to get some poke damage off then the rest is W/E/autos. Then as the fight is wrapping up a Q if they are just out of auto range and running away as you are trying to run them down or you just R them if its up.
: Co-op vs AI matches are being overwhelmed with scripted accounts
just to give another games experience with bots and how it ruined the game. Diablo 2 was great at its prime and about 4-5 years after it was released and ladder seasons didnt really exist anymore botters took over the game and crashed the in game economy in less than a week. Two of the most popular items for sorc and necro were Stone of Jordan Rings(SOJ) and Shako helmet. The SOJ was not super rare as it was the basis for the currency. Once the bots got going you could get SOJ for free. Then because it was free money every other item lost its value in the following week. You could get any item in the game by just making a game saying 'need XXXXXX for SOJs' and you would get the item in less than 3 min. I remember that after the bots came over and would do baal, diablo, necro, meph, and andy runs in matter of 7 min or less on hell difficulty. They had some sort of auto pickup where it would get the item ever before you could. It just ruins the players experience when you do not get to play the game. Then now in league what is happening I have been seeing bought bot accounts crop up in my plat ranked games. I had high silver accounts playing in plat ranked games and you can instantly tell these people are smurfs. You can see how the bots tanked the MMR but soon as they do their placement they have insane mechanics. The lee I played with yesterday would land a Q start to take it in then realize it wasn't good and im guessing ward hop the opposite direction. I have only seen that done in youtube and never at my elo. It is giving players easy access to accounts to ruin other peoples games. This is a practice that needs to be stopped immediately. I'm perfectly fine if you take a new account and level it up yourself as I did that to test and at the time I placed 1 rank below where my main account was at the time(main gold 5, test acct silver 1). I have come across 3 accounts in the last week that were high silver, clearly smurfs and/or trolls, just to mess around.
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: Would like Support Advice from Plat/Diamond Supports (Gold Player)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVDepsrgho0zQxMvkik7KUw corejj is making how to videos and is one of the best supports in NA currently
Kai Guy (NA)
: Easy fix. Make it so you swap your pick order instead of champions.
id love to do that but since we dont have that swapping champs is the best we can do
: Aphelios's range indicator for Calibrum is great. Can Twitch/Kog/Trist get this?
I don't think he should have one to begin with it really takes the skill expression out of the good vs bad players. You are getting a fixed 100 range if you have that gun to give you 650 range. If you leave the range indicator than you kinda have to put it on every champ and if you don't than you are putting a disadvantage to other ADC. The range indicator on RFC is different because it is not a fixed amount and certain champions can get 78 or 100 or 150 extra range. If RFC had a fixed amount than I think the indicator should be removed. {{champion:18}} definitely needs a QoL change to her E. Twitch if you go in game and hove your mouse over his E spell in the description that pops up in red it gives you the max stacks damage before armor. This needs to be done for tristana also.
STEG0 (NA)
: They did some change to it when they introduced crafting and now it feels like it takes so much longer. I think most likely if you are disenchanting all your champions from loot boxes etc. that you might be gaining them at a more normal rate but also mastery cuts into the BE. Prior to the change I'd get a new champion about once a month playing a lot, now I pretty much never purchase new champions even over the course of a year because just a couple of purchases seem to clear a years worth of BE. No idea about the math behind it but it felt great before crafting and for a long time now has felt very stingy. Before I could also afford rune pages and runes and new champions. The loot boxes rewards are weighted towards cheap champions which results in huge stacks of 80 BE champions which don't amount to much so I'm not sure it actually equalizes at all.
my last lvl up i got annie champion shard, garen champion shard and like 90 BE. I still need 83600 (16x4800+6300) BE to get the remaining champs and not to mention the new champ which will be 7400 additional I think. I have no shards to disenchant either since I do it to get the BE so I can get the champs.
: the general advice people get when wanting to learn the game is to one trick 1-3 champions now considering you are lvl 202 id assume you are past the phase of wanting to learn the game when the IP system was in place over the current BE system a game would net you on average 80 to 150 IP based on game length champions had the same costs but converted in IP i've played the game like 20% more than you and i can currently unlock every champion if i disenchant my shards. I've also bought the urfwick for 150k be and have 12 rune pages bear in mind before the BE swap we had to purchase runes and pages on top of champions 1 full Rune page would go from 4800 to 7800 IP and you would need 6-10 to play the game comfortably so i would say buying champions is far faster especially when you consider the fact that you can purchase a champion for half cost with a lucky shard
yea I have no shards to disenchant I have been actively trying to get every character unlocked. I wish it was a faster process because I just want to be able to able to say anyone need a pick I own all champs.
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: This game is infested with bots, do something about it
i doubt that they will get rid of bots anytime soon, as crappy as that is to say. I think that when they are looking for sponsors they go we have X amount of players average everyday so you could get this much exposure. I'm not sure why they wouldn't of got rid of them so much sooner since they are infested in anything but draft pick and ranked now that twisted treeline is gone. I played on my ARAM account yesterday and 2 games in a row we had multiple bots in the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1vPANjQ0,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-25T18:50:35.595+0000) > > I know but can you switch to any of them at any time? Does he have to stick to 1 till he runs out of "ammo"? I just don't like champion designs that have everything. I'm much more of a fan of a champion that gets released and you can go oh his counter is X. Like this champion is weak due to lack of range or very squishy or has long cool downs. It just seems like all of the new designs are good at all master of none. I would like more specialty in order to create weak points that you can exploit or be exploited on. I just see older champion designs such as for example {{champion:18}} you can keep her down early by hard shoving into the tower since she struggles to farm under tower with her E passive. Or {{champion:67}} you can just out poke her to death since she has no ability that goes past 550 range. {{champion:142}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:555}} all have kits that are just so strong that they are like god tier or crap. Did you not read the article Riot released on how he works?
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1vPANjQ0,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-25T19:22:35.173+0000) > > Did you not read the article Riot released on how he works? I skimmed most of it but I didn't see where it broke down how ammo works
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1vPANjQ0,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-25T16:49:15.551+0000) > > he better have 525 or less range is all i'm hoping for since he has: > 1. range increase/dmg increase > 2. heal > 3. slow > 4. AOE/waveclear > 5. close range DPS > > yep sounds like another overloaded kit He only has two of those at a time.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1vPANjQ0,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-25T17:07:41.427+0000) > > He only has two of those at a time. I know but can you switch to any of them at any time? Does he have to stick to 1 till he runs out of "ammo"? I just don't like champion designs that have everything. I'm much more of a fan of a champion that gets released and you can go oh his counter is X. Like this champion is weak due to lack of range or very squishy or has long cool downs. It just seems like all of the new designs are good at all master of none. I would like more specialty in order to create weak points that you can exploit or be exploited on. I just see older champion designs such as for example {{champion:18}} you can keep her down early by hard shoving into the tower since she struggles to farm under tower with her E passive. Or {{champion:67}} you can just out poke her to death since she has no ability that goes past 550 range. {{champion:142}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:555}} all have kits that are just so strong that they are like god tier or crap.
wolf jade (EUNE)
: the new champion looks really fun and nice and i can't wait to try him out and learn how to play him
he better have 525 or less range is all i'm hoping for since he has: 1. range increase/dmg increase 2. heal 3. slow 4. AOE/waveclear 5. close range DPS yep sounds like another overloaded kit
Void2258 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tbVcieAa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-21T15:52:23.104+0000) > > make it like this > > Example: you own 25 champions of the 140 available (for arguments sake not the real number i guessed) so you level up and get champion capsule. That champion capsule has to be one of the 115 you don't own. Now you buy 2 more champions so you now have 27 champions of the 140 available. Then you level up again and you get one of the 113 champions you don't own and so on. Once you have all the shards you start to get random ones. You will still need to heavily grind for the BE but at least you have all the shards. > > Its really bad its 3 full seasons in and I still don't own all the champions i'm like 15-25 short. I refuse to spend RP on something that should be much easier to get. There should at least be a limited hard guarantee, like every 5 capsules you will definitely get a character you don't own in among the completely random ones. I personally have 111/140 champs, so the possibility of randomly rolling a champ I don't have is not great (especially since each roll is independent even in the capsule itself, so you can even roll multiples of a single champ you already have). There is a fine line between "we can't give too much free stuff, we have to make money" and "I feel like my playing earns me nothing so why should I play". Currently when there is nothing else being earned (like world championship coins), the system can feel far too much to the later side. You need to give people enough that they feel rewarded for playing, otherwise why would they stick around to buy things with money?
Fine line of too much free stuff? How is almost 3k (2929 to be exact) games of league played in the last 3-4 years and still not getting all the champions for free giving away too much free stuff? If I have 20 champions to go which i think is a fair guess. I get a new champion at the rate of every 23.24 games. (146 champions overall; 2929/126 Champs I own). At an average of 25 min per game every 9.5 hours of play time I get a new champion. That is beyond slow progression even in games like WoW.
Void2258 (NA)
: Level up Champion Capsules
make it like this Example: you own 25 champions of the 140 available (for arguments sake not the real number i guessed) so you level up and get champion capsule. That champion capsule has to be one of the 115 you don't own. Now you buy 2 more champions so you now have 27 champions of the 140 available. Then you level up again and you get one of the 113 champions you don't own and so on. Once you have all the shards you start to get random ones. You will still need to heavily grind for the BE but at least you have all the shards. Its really bad its 3 full seasons in and I still don't own all the champions i'm like 15-25 short. I refuse to spend RP on something that should be much easier to get.
: Lux and cloud drake.
is it additive or multiplicative for how they stack?
: her range later, thats probably because shes as squishy as kalista and is alot easier to catch out. she still has to literally farm for 20 minutes and stack off people to get that range. Shes no different than nasus or veigar, except, she cant 1 shot you. If they remove her +25 from passive, alternatively she'd need alot of compensation since, at that point shes severely nerfed, unviable in late game, has as I said before, NO SCALING STATS PER LEVEL. he roles are jeopardized, she wouldnt make sense since she is using a light cannon based rifle(?) Shes not really any of a problem at all.. she has a 50% WR, shes average right now.
600 range as a base already offers you a decent amount of safety. That is why cait is considered so safe with her 650 base attack range.You have to use a gap closer or some sort of stun to get on cait. As for the infinitely scaling champs I am ok with them on the damage side but you should not get range on top of it. There is not 1 consistent thing in this game that out ranges a tower for base auto attacks because every time they do have it, once you get to that point it becomes an auto win. Hence the banner of command with baron buff cannon minion meta. They removed it because there was no real way to stop it since it was outside the cannon minion range. Stat wise she is squishy but shes not worse than sona. I really don't see a problem in terms of how squishy she is if sona is more squishy and dances around the edge of the fight because most of sona spell range is 1000. if you play her as an adc you are getting less stacks but still getting around 70 in about a 25 min game, when you play her as support that's the problem because you easily get 160 stacks in the same amount of time. I didn't say to touch the rest of her kit at all cause she is fairly balanced.
: Once again, No. She. Does. not. She has NO SCALING besides her passive.her E is weak, her R is okay, her Q is okay, her W is okay. Her passive is fine. She has more counterplay than other champs, to use her viably, she actually needs people to scale by aaing them, just put senna out of the game early on, she wont be a problem later.
i disagree I don't want to go as far as the original poster but I hate her range later in the game. She becomes like a cannon minion with banner of command on it vs towers. It is not good and lack of interactive to play against since you cant really push that off the tower since she out ranges it. I think they should take her 600 range leave it at that since its already large and just remove the +25 range from her passive. Edit: towers have 775 attack range and senna needs only 160 stacks to out range a tower
: Unpopular opinion, all players should have low ping
theoretically all players should have low ping but its not possible with distance to the servers. In NYC I get 25-30 ping to the live servers and PBE 100-110. When I play with my friend from Boston he gets 40-50 ping to live and 120-140 on PBE. That is the exact reason they moved the servers to a more central location to give most of the player base a decent ping where Pros are like 60-70 ping now. Its really rare to hear of someone now with over 100 ping on the NA server. The old server location it would be at least 2-4 people every game with 100+ ping in NA and it was complete BS for them to have the servers there and not a more central location.
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mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PBzB0ycc,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T22:46:08.434+0000) > > its definitely not my business fiber internet. I have a guaranteed 1 GB up and down at all times. Ever since I bought it I have had 0 problems with streaming data such as Netflix while I game. I do not have unstable internet so that cannot be me. > > As for freezing going into game no because I get an error message that pops up in windows saying the program has stopped working so its a client bug. > > When the music changes song when i have the client only open it freezes for a second while it like jumps to the next song in the playlist. Can you post a picture of the crashing error code for the ingame loading issue ? Once again there are 9 other people who we’ll require stable internet connections as well if not you will see client issue and loading in issue. What are you using to listen to music ?
riot support cant figure it out, so how is someone who doesn't know how the client works going to figure it out. Things I did fresh install of windows, yep, didn't solve anything. Repair client files with riot support, didn;t solve anything. Multiple reinstalls of LOL, still didn't do anything. Switch Computers and internet connection to play league on, didn't solve anything. Riot support said they are well aware of these issues as they are common. If they are common and still not easily fixed then we have a bigger issue of riot actually taking the time to fix them. I have had some of these bugs for 6+ months already at this point it is willfully negligent on these bugs that they know and do nothing about.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PBzB0ycc,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-11-12T20:29:30.221+0000) > > my computer is well over the specs for the game and I still have a ton of problems with the client (like 20% of my games) > > Recommended Specs > 3 GHz dual-core processor > 4 GB of RAM > 16 GB available hard disk space > Nvidia GeForce 8800/AMD Radeon HD 5670 or equivalent video card (Dedicated GPU with 512MB or higher Video Memory(VRAM)) > Support for DirectX v9.0c or better. > Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10 with the latest service pack installed > > What I have: > I7 4.0Ghz Quad Core > 32 GB of RAM > ~100 GB of hard disk space free on my SSD > GeForce GTX 980Ti 6GB > Windows 10 > > Why do I have problems with the client in 20% of my games if i'm so far ahead of the recommended specs and that is even higher than the minimum specs. Its weird that CSGO, any COD game, Fortnite, Borderlands 3, F1 2019, F1 2018, F1 2017, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Dota 2 etc. I have 0 problems with the clients being bugged ever. When I play league its a hope and pray it doesn't bug. I have un/reinstalled the client about 5-6 times this year already trying to fix it on the order of riot support tickets. They have no clue what is wrong with the client and have 0 desire to fix it at this point or else it would of been fixed when they forced everyone to switch over from the old client to this one. > > Bugs I see all the time: > 1. Runes don't change even when selecting a different rune page - Error given when trying to switch with plenty of time left in champ select (60+ seconds) > 2. Cant see champions in pick/ban phase > 3. 100% loading in game bug where it freezes (most common for me) > 4. Random Freezes when it changes the background art/music > > This client makes me so mad that this will be one of the main reasons I quit this game. I just want to get home from work or the gym and be like oh lets load up a game and not have to get mad that it doesn't work and in order to get it to work again I have to reboot my PC. Even though it takes 10 seconds to fully reboot I shouldn't have to do that ever because it crashes from a bug. The first two are pretty explainable as it is probably due unstable internet connection with the client itself. The problem with the client is it has to monitor 10 internet connection so if one of those is shady it might get freaky. The third one is because the game does not want to launch until all 10 people connect to the game to protect game quality. You have an amazing computer so you always load in super fast so when it takes a while you think it’s you. Be infant one of the other 9 players incredibly out of date rig is slowing down the process. Can you go into more detail about the music like are you using YouTube in a internet browser ingame music changes or another app?
its definitely not my business fiber internet. I have a guaranteed 1 GB up and down at all times. Ever since I bought it I have had 0 problems with streaming data such as Netflix while I game. I do not have unstable internet so that cannot be me. As for freezing going into game no because I get an error message that pops up in windows saying the program has stopped working so its a client bug. When the music changes song when i have the client only open it freezes for a second while it like jumps to the next song in the playlist.
mack9112 (NA)
: Soooo what are your computer specs . So far everyone I have talked to on here has not even met the minimum requirements.
my computer is well over the specs for the game and I still have a ton of problems with the client (like 20% of my games) Recommended Specs 3 GHz dual-core processor 4 GB of RAM 16 GB available hard disk space Nvidia GeForce 8800/AMD Radeon HD 5670 or equivalent video card (Dedicated GPU with 512MB or higher Video Memory(VRAM)) Support for DirectX v9.0c or better. Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10 with the latest service pack installed What I have: I7 4.0Ghz Quad Core 32 GB of RAM ~100 GB of hard disk space free on my SSD GeForce GTX 980Ti 6GB Windows 10 Why do I have problems with the client in 20% of my games if i'm so far ahead of the recommended specs and that is even higher than the minimum specs. Its weird that CSGO, any COD game, Fortnite, Borderlands 3, F1 2019, F1 2018, F1 2017, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Dota 2 etc. I have 0 problems with the clients being bugged ever. When I play league its a hope and pray it doesn't bug. I have un/reinstalled the client about 5-6 times this year already trying to fix it on the order of riot support tickets. They have no clue what is wrong with the client and have 0 desire to fix it at this point or else it would of been fixed when they forced everyone to switch over from the old client to this one. Bugs I see all the time: 1. Runes don't change even when selecting a different rune page - Error given when trying to switch with plenty of time left in champ select (60+ seconds) 2. Cant see champions in pick/ban phase 3. 100% loading in game bug where it freezes (most common for me) 4. Random Freezes when it changes the background art/music This client makes me so mad that this will be one of the main reasons I quit this game. I just want to get home from work or the gym and be like oh lets load up a game and not have to get mad that it doesn't work and in order to get it to work again I have to reboot my PC. Even though it takes 10 seconds to fully reboot I shouldn't have to do that ever because it crashes from a bug.
Smyrage (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TLLmq3MZ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-04T22:09:26.027+0000) > > The problem is they nerfed fleet so we have to go biscuits in order to gain the sustain. That was a fine move fleet was too strong in my opinion. I don't want them to overbuff gathering storm I just want to be able have a viable choice to pick 1. boots&biscuits or 2. gathering storm. Fleet footwork is still good on those, who can use the energised shots on champion. However you must remember that Gathering Storm gives Adaptive Stats, therefore it isn't exclusively for ADCs, but mages as well. Mages most times take Gathering Storm, because Scorch falls off extremely from mid game. Therefore I don't really have a problem with ADCs going for inspiration. They don't benefit much from other trees at all, because Inspiration actually helps them getting items, and ADCs scale with items.
then we are back to old runes/mastery problem of there is only 1 viable path to go for ADC. With only 2 or 3 being strong. Where other classes can have a choice. 23 champs have been played bot in worlds, 10 of which are marksman and they 97% of the time go precision/inspiration (ezreal exluded). Bot champs will always have the 2-4 strong but at least give us different options for viable runes then.
Smyrage (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TLLmq3MZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-04T21:36:31.358+0000) > > I agree but when the rune is not taken by the best late game scaling class because games don't go long enough. There is a bit of a problem with the rune. In Worlds group and playoff it has been taken 2 games by {{champion:145}} or {{champion:498}} the rest are boots/biscuits. The 2 games I found are G2 vs Griffin (group) and TL vs AHQ(group) both times they took it they won. The G2 game only lasted sub 30 minutes so you never really got the full power from the rune they got 14AD. The TL game it lasted 30:57 and by the time you get to enjoy the rune the game is already over. > > The problem is since games are decided pre 30 minutes and this is really a 30 min+ rune it needs more of an impact in the early game. There is not a good reason to take it over biscuits which give you so much lane sustain. ADC need a different option for runes since we have pretty much Precision tree/Inspiration otherwise you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. The similarity between the two is that they don't take Fleet Footwork, or well, Fleet Footwork isn't good on them. ADCs need a lot of lane sustain and I still remember when Fleet Footwork + Gathering Storm was the general ADC setup. The problem is: Gathering Storm can easily become a must pick and I don't think Riot intends to bring back those times, when ADCs always had to pick it if they wanted to do anything.
The problem is they nerfed fleet so we have to go biscuits in order to gain the sustain. That was a fine move fleet was too strong in my opinion. I don't want them to overbuff gathering storm I just want to be able have a viable choice to pick 1. boots&biscuits or 2. gathering storm.
Smyrage (EUNE)
: I don't really support the idea of free adaptive buffs that early because Absolute Focus also exists. Furthermore Gathering Storm was supposed to be a lategame tiebreaker, because after you reached full build, the only way you can get extra stats is through runes and Gathering Storm gives free infinitely scaling buff. Afaik a lot of ADCs take this rune, who can always make use of the free AD. Caitlyn, Jhin and others usually prefer these before free boots. Other ADCs either need the first item ASAP or they just don't have better option, the Sorcery tree isn't really good for most ADCs, especially for those, who rely on on-hit effects.
I agree but when the rune is not taken by the best late game scaling class because games don't go long enough. There is a bit of a problem with the rune. In Worlds group and playoff it has been taken 2 games by {{champion:145}} or {{champion:498}} the rest are boots/biscuits. The 2 games I found are G2 vs Griffin (group) and TL vs AHQ(group) both times they took it they won. The G2 game only lasted sub 30 minutes so you never really got the full power from the rune they got 14AD. The TL game it lasted 30:57 and by the time you get to enjoy the rune the game is already over. The problem is since games are decided pre 30 minutes and this is really a 30 min+ rune it needs more of an impact in the early game. There is not a good reason to take it over biscuits which give you so much lane sustain. ADC need a different option for runes since we have pretty much Precision tree/Inspiration otherwise you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. Edit: Worlds marksman {{champion:96}}1 game took inspiration {{champion:51}} 1 game took gathering storm (lost) {{champion:222}} 2 game took inspiration {{champion:18}} 2 game took inspiration {{champion:119}} 2 game took inspiration {{champion:67}} 2 game took inspiration and Domination (1 each) {{champion:236}} 4 games took inspiration 3 games and 1 game took gathering storm(lost) {{champion:110}} 8 games took inspiration all games {{champion:498}} 33 games took inspiration 32 games and 1 game took gathering storm (won) {{champion:145}} 49 games took inspiration 48 games and 1 game took gathering storm (won)
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DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Speeedy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oAx30Z29,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-30T15:11:00.823+0000) > > when I played her last night in 2 games and got 230-250AD, 100% crit, 850 range(total, +250 passive), 50% life steal from just my passive. She is very overtuned because I did this in UNDER 30 minutes in both games. Her late game is stronger than the kayle right after her rework. The one game I played was a fiesta and I had 1000 auto attack range by the end. No champion should have 1000 range that does like 400 per auto on a squishy. You can just kite them forever and they will never be able to kill you cause your range is too big. {{champion:51}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:222}} are already very abusive with their range late game and she does not need to be in that arena as well. > > Suggestions to change her (try one): > 1. kill the range portion of her passive so she doesnt get bonus range > 2. make it 2-3x harder to get 20 stacks > 3. Do not make extra crit give life steal I wouldn't be surprised if she will need nerfs or not. But she is still on pbe so changes are likely going to happen.
she definitely needs nerfs no question about that after playing her. If she didn't attack so slow she would be an ADC but the second game I built her more like an ADC than a support and with {{item:3036}} she became instantly over powered. I felt like an I was shooting people from too far away and doing too much damage late game. Any Crit adc does more damage than her late game but her range is what makes her really dumb because of the move speed on the passive also. Shes just too hard to get on top of. The other problem is that if they try and get close to you, you hit them with W (stun) and then E away since you get bonus movement speed. Shes so hard to get onto unless you flank her and she doesn't see it coming.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: Dear angry players complaining about Senna...
when I played her last night in 2 games and got 230-250AD, 100% crit, 850 range(total, +250 passive), 50% life steal from just my passive. She is very overtuned because I did this in UNDER 30 minutes in both games. Her late game is stronger than the kayle right after her rework. The one game I played was a fiesta and I had 1000 auto attack range by the end. No champion should have 1000 range that does like 400 per auto on a squishy. You can just kite them forever and they will never be able to kill you cause your range is too big. {{champion:51}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:222}} are already very abusive with their range late game and she does not need to be in that arena as well. Suggestions to change her (try one): 1. kill the range portion of her passive so she doesnt get bonus range 2. make it 2-3x harder to get 20 stacks 3. Do not make extra crit give life steal
: LOL! Perfectly stated... Anyone who doesn't like it still would have the option of not joining or muting certain people, just like any pro game worth its salt.
Yea I tried on an alt account to see how far I could go without voice comms in CSGO earlier this year and the best I could do was LEM (Legendary Eagle Master, 3rd highest rank) and I have been playing counter strike since 1.3. That is where I leveled out to a 50% win rate since past that you have to time throwing smokes together to take sites (so you two people don't throw smokes in the same spot and leave an area open), flash for teammates to peak corners etc. I tried for like a month and I couldn't get above that 50% win rate and sat right there, where I could clearly out gun people in almost every single fight. Soon as I turned voice comms back on after I felt like I did all I could and in less than 40 games I was global with that account. From my experience with voice comms a lot less people are toxic with voice because you all want to win. Lower elos in cs go like silver and gold nova are the most toxic by far because they want to win but aren't fundamentally good at the game. Even then they toxicity is about 20% of your games. 1 in every 5 games in low elo CSGO is toxic and its usually one person. Once you get to about MG1/MG2 that is when people start to be less toxic and more willing to compliment you with 'nice try' 'nice hold' etc. In CSGO I count the number of times I have a toxic team vs in league I count the number of non toxic teams I have. I have been working of fundamentals in league and norm games are incredibly toxic I do not know how people are not chat restricted more. An average game of league for me, I played about 800 games this season so far, and I have to mute 1 person per game for toxicity. I am not sure why league is so toxic in game with people flaming but that is why I feel this game really has lack of new players due to its toxic nature. I think voice comms will actually cut down on the toxicity levels in this game sine people are more afraid to talk shit then type shit. I really like league as a game but the community is like dealing with a bipolar 5 year old who also has multiple personality disorder. People go from completely normal to off the deep end in a few seconds.
: Game is unplayable as an E-sport without having team voice chat
i'm all with you for voice chat because I come from Counter strike (been global elite since ranked came out in csgo) where you can't play the game at a high level without voice. Unfortunately as you can see from all the down votes you are getting it is not accepted here like it is in the other games. This community has the least amount of ambition of any community I have ever been a part of to actually improve. They have never had voice comms in the game so they have no idea how the community will even react to it. All anyone ever says it will be bad and/or you don't need it with pings. Yet the pros constantly use voice comms in every game. This community reminds me of a little kid who you are having try new food for the first time and before they even taste it, they say they don't like it.
LilJango (EUNE)
: Unfair Game
well for an ADC your cs numbers are a little low, the things that got me to plat was me being able to CS well and team fight. I am playing a lot of normals now to work on my lane phase as that is something I am not good at and when I watch my demos I take way too much unneeded damage and shoving with lack of vision. I would say work on your cs numbers and go watch a demo of yours to see where your gameplay is weak and then try to improve those areas.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 25
Hey Meddler, I have 2 questions that weren't covered in the preseason changes: 1. Will there be a pure solo Q next season? 2. Are there going to be any changes to matchmaking? Solo Q, Solo/Duo Q? FlexQ? etc. Thank you for your time
JoeMG (NA)
: Opinion: Riot should balance around pro play
riot should balance around masters+ solo Q. Why? 1. More games played in a day in masters+ than all pro games in a year. Gives a lot more data to balance against. 2. Money to sustain game - You have ill give you a lot and say 1000-1500 pros across the world. You think keeping 1500 people happy vs the 99.99% of people will sustain your game. All the pros in the world can't spend enough money to fund 1 region none the less the rest of the world. 3. Good Game turns into a good pro scene - There has not been 1 game in history that started with a pro game that has filtered down to a regular player base. Its why games like Counterstrike have been around for so long, the gameplay for the average player is still fantastic. When you have a good base game your pro scene is very interesting to watch. Magic the gathering, SC2, Counterstrike, WoW, Rocket League, etc. 4. New Players - Imagine you are a new player and how long do you want to stick around when you find out that you are not the focus of the company but pros are? Are you going to recommend the game to someone else? 'hey try this game they focus on the pros and see us as just funding for the game' 5. Champions are left in the gutter - Because balancing around pro play leaves certain champs in the gutter for long periods of time. You are basically trolling when you pick the 43% winrate champion because he only works in coordinated play. When you leave champions in bad spots for very long time it pisses your player base off. Perfect example is {{champion:62}}. How long was he left in the gutter? How many new Wu mains have we got in the last year? How many new {{champion:145}} have we got in the last year?
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Weexazys (NA)
: Playing as and ADC has been the most frustrating, infuriating role forever.
why I feel adc feel bad to play 1. Base stat nerfs from 8.11 - still haven't recovered 2. Buff to support - not the worst change but it made them dominant in the lane phase over ADC since they can solo kill the adc 3. ADC item rework - when they changed IE from 250% we never really recovered in terms of power since we need so many items now to be powerful which leaves our agency low. You can have 5 kills, 3 assists 207 cs @23 min in the game and not have 3 items yet (proof: https://youtu.be/MXQKGaUXZLQ?t=26) Then the average game time doesn't help either with it being less than 30 min (https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations/na) We are hitting our spike with less than 7 minutes of average game time to make an impact. 4. Bruisers got lack of cooldowns with {{item:3161}} and they have a ton of dashes to get on top of you because of this {{champion:24}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:39}} to name some 5. Ad Items weak to their AP counter part - {{item:3802}} vs {{item:1038}} or {{item:1058}} vs {{item:3086}} our items stack better but we need 3-4 items to be strong vs a {{item:3285}} from a mage beginning to be strong. All of these combined are why ADC are ranked one of the worst role to climb with currently.
: Perhaps the real reason the damage meta ruins the game.
they need to make tanks live more than like 1 second longer than a squishy. Till that happens tanks don't have a place in this game. As an ADC I hate when I see a tank go in to start the fight and then they are dead in under 4 seconds. The worst part is they did absolutely nothing to our team besides give us a free kill.
: So is the thing you hate most about her the amount of mobility she has?
If she has that much mobility/utility/burst something needs to be toned down since she only used flash offensively to hit w and didn't even need to pop heal.
: This hate boner for Kai'sa is honestly a little ridiculous. The champion isn't problematic. She's weak where she needs to be and strong when she's supposed to be. She does well in Worlds but common soloqueue is not Worlds. In soloqueue, she's getting assfucked by the plethora of other ADCs who are far stronger along with a lot of other low range, late game carries(Kog, Trist to name two specifically). She's got the the 4th lowest winrate this patch according to OP.GG: https://na.op.gg/champion/kaisa/statistics/bot Her pick rate is high but that 100% is more inline with the idea that she is just *fun* to play. A high pick rate and a sub 50% WR just shows people enjoy playing her even if she's bad. She's like Ezreal, who literally has the lowest winrate but also has a huge pick rate. It flat out *does not matter how much she is nerfed.* She will still be played because she is *enjoyable to play*. She has satisfying gameplay. But continue to hating on a champion who is bottom of the barrel strong because you lost to one in your game. Meanwhile, Jinx has been strong since the start of the season; no one whines about her AoE critting you from 700 range starting at level 9. Or Ashe who is literally the second highest winrate champion *in the game*. That's not even just bot lane. That's in the game as a whole. I don't even play Kai'sa. I'm just tired of people whining about a none problematic champion.
She has been a problem since riot made her kit {{champion:67}} ish. When her weakness is range its not really a huge weakness since she still has 525 range and a movement ability with E and R. When you take out the people who aren't good with her since her play rate is so high her win rate will probably be around 50-53%. She needs clearer windows of weaknesses in her kit. {{champion:51}} - bad mid game {{champion:22}} - more utility based and not super damage (before the buff) {{champion:119}} - falls off late if doesn't steam roll lane {{champion:81}} - great mid game fair early and late {{champion:202}} - bad against tanks and slow attack speed {{champion:222}} - lack of mobility, not great early game {{champion:145}} - out range her {{champion:429}} - everything is bad about kalista needs tons of buffs {{champion:96}} - lack of mobility, not great early game {{champion:236}} - great early game falls off late etc. Most ADC's have a window where you have to beat them but when a hyperscaling ADC is better than average at her "weakpoints" in the game early and mid that is more of a problem. I hate that she hits a hard spike at {{item:3004}} and {{item:3124}} and then just never falls off from there.
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Swimmx (NA)
: They better bring back banner of command
no the get baron and protect your cannon minion with banner buff was so bad, we do not need that back
: Characters we hate and why
{{champion:145}} is my most hated to play against. Why I hate playing against her: this one moment where I was playing my main cait we saw their support start to roam mid so my support followed while the minions were just outside out turret (very few minions like 2-3 casters only) So Kasai flash W me then instantly ult behind me under my turret presses Q and autos me like 2 or 3 times and still gets out alive after eating 3-4 turret shots plus me hitting her. I had E on cd and i was like ok so she can dive me when i have 90+% hp solo with no minions and can kill me while we both were 1/0/0. To give her credit she did have rageblade fully stacked and {{item:3004}} {{item:3006}}. I did have flash but not heal and even if I did it wouldn't of made a difference.
: First thing I see is too much focus on kills not enough on farm. Your CS scores are SO LOW. Try aiming for 50+ CS every ten minutes. Also keep in mind escape routes. Just because you see a low health squishy DOES NOT mean go in. Make sure you can make it out after going in. A lot of your games your kills and deaths are about equal which tells me you are taking too many risks to get a kill. Focus on NOT DYING. Learn your kill zones, how much health you can remove at level 3, 6, and 11 and only all in when you KNOW they will die and you will live.
you should aim for 80 cs every 10 minutes but the rest of your post is correct
: Can I get help with improving?
as someone who went semi pro in another game (Counter strike) and had tryouts for pro teams I can give you the steps on how to improve. 1. Pick the role you want to play (Mid) 2. Learn how to CS properly 3. Learn wave management (when you should push, when you should freeze, slow push, etc) 4. Once you have them down I would pick 3-4 champions to main for counter matchups when needed Really Important steps 5. Practice with a purpose - dont say just win the game, start with like having really good CS, then add another objective of to ward more after you can do that consistently you add something like focus on not dieing more than 3 times a game, etc.) Eventually the first step of CS well will be natural, so will warding. This is why you can add tasks to your list over time as building blocks of the basics you need to do without thinking. I think my list had like 45-50 items on it by the end. With like the first 30 being basics of every game then the last 20 being more advanced things. 6. Analyze your games - Biggest thing for improving is analyzing each game you play and take notes on things you did well and things to improve on, Did you hit your objectives in step#5? Mechanics will come with time as you play more and more Slowly expand your champion pool 1 at a time. You cant learn 6 characters at once to the level you need to. Once you get to High plat/Low diamond (plat 2- Diamond 3) take a lesson not for 1 game but multiple games so they can see what you do over a little time. Don't give up and Practice practice practice. It took me about 10k hours to get to good then another 5k to get to semipro level.
: Sometimes you just don't get lucky with the algorithm. There's some randomness to it
The algorithm should be like what is your most played champ this season here is 2 skins for it. What is your 2nd most played champ this season? Here is 2 skins for them and so on until your shop is full because some people own all the skins for certain champs. I got 10 games played this season on 2 champs in my shop and the rest I haven't played this season. Are you going to buy a skin for a champ you don't play? Probably not Are you going to buy a skin for a champ you played 50 games on this season and is your 3rd most played champ? Much more likely
NoPaxt (NA)
: My Shop
this is what I don't get about the shop they just throw random crap in there. I got a teemo, a sona skin, and the rest are champs I don't play/haven't played all season. Couldn't give me any {{champion:51}} skins I own them all, that's fine. Also my 2nd most played champ this season {{champion:18}} I am missing her 1 skin of firefighter I would of bought in a second, should of gave me that but it didn't.
: ADC's already have a decent spot in the casual meta. They might not in professional play, but in terms of Solo-que, which is the majority of players, ADC's like Ashe and Caitlyn have a prominent position as strong, reliable picks.
they are fine now but will they be when we get these changes: -execute on elder (we already die to a stiff breeze) so it doesn't seem hard to trigger on an adc -more brushes to die from with lack of vision -less exp -support gets to build faster without having to buy support item -possible buff to lethality items even ex Team Liquid top analyst said on twitter (@OGKayys) Season 10 Role Strength order: 1. Mid Lane (large gap) 2. Support 3. Jungle 4. Top 5. AP/AD Bottom
: The Pre-season changes arent that bad.
unless your an ADC player where there is not 1 positive thing to benefit you
: > [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=63d3Gfw8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T17:07:51.443+0000) > > Ok so again, removing duo is a dumb idea, autofill being removed is fine, more than 2 roles is fine, stopping matchs of 1+ league apart is good, remake is meh, they cannot compensate losses at all since its too time fulfilling and there would have to be tickets etcetcetc.. SMURFS and OTP cannot be fixed, at that point u are basically saying dont let them play the game. SPecially OTPs.. nobody should have a problem with OTPs at all. BUT They SHOULD make a mastery requirement to play champions in ranked... i.e Mastery 5 atleast. Removing duo is a great idea, it fixes the whole smurf problems. No more boosting, unless you give them your passwords which is very risky (I'm sure people with brains won't do this) and its easier to catch people that way. Mastery 5 is a not a very good idea, since league is all about counters, matchups and comps. maybe like mastery 2 or 3 so you know their skills atleast but for majority of the playerbase knows how to play all champs and its quite simple. They obviously won't do as great as their mains but it should be worth it since you get to hard counter opponents.
its also alot easier to catch account sharing if a player is say silver 4 mid main then all of a sudden a jungle kha with a 70%+ win rate you can ip trace the persons original account and get that banned as well.
: Yes adcs got shafted. Which is kinda of lame because i dont feel like jungle is getting nerfed hard enough, they should have shafted junglers not adcs, junglers have domianted the game for far too long.
Agreed as an ADC we are along for the ride for like the first 20 min and hope our team is even or ahead. Junglers got slightly nerfed and then mid, which is one of the strongest roles, gets a buff as a result of trying to buff top which makes no sense.
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