: Maokai/Shen/Cho and rest of the tank crew is still in basement. Rengar/Kha/Talon/Evelynn/LB are still oneshoting tanks. 9.2 patch is the best one in the Year...don't know why they need those 9.3 changes Nerf Conqueror to 14% It will still be strong,and tanks wont exist.But ADCS/Squishies wont get bursted down by Bruisers.
> [{quoted}](name=OnajKojiTrci,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cAKQYbLc,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-01-30T19:54:52.331+0000) > > Maokai/Shen/Cho and rest of the tank crew is still in basement. > Rengar/Kha/Talon/Evelynn/LB are still oneshoting tanks. > 9.2 patch is the best one in the Year...don't know why they need those 9.3 changes > Nerf Conqueror to 14% It will still be strong,and tanks wont exist.But ADCS/Squishies wont get bursted down by Bruisers. Evelynn is not one shoting any tank since her damage nerfs lol. Buying one magic resist item is often good enough to stop her one shotting potential unless she builds pen.
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: It makes me smile when I read posts that are so blatantly ignorant. Killing jungle diversity? This just increased it. Be adaptable and stop one-tricking.
> [{quoted}](name=Dayngerus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2018-05-19T07:11:07.010+0000) > > It makes me smile when I read posts that are so blatantly ignorant. Killing jungle diversity? This just increased it. Be adaptable and stop one-tricking. I don’t find that fun, so I won’t do that but thanks for your reply!
: Oh no sejuani and zac are useless... because people liked getting dived bot lane... Learn a skill based champ and stop complaining ty
> [{quoted}](name=Kiss my ªss,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2018-05-19T09:12:25.515+0000) > > Oh no sejuani and zac are useless... because people liked getting dived bot lane... Learn a skill based champ and stop complaining ty I don’t find skill based champions fun so I won’t. Thanks for your input though! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Moon Mom (NA)
: Tons of high elo players like sunset are doing just fine with eve though. Have you considered looking into how they path and mimicking, or applying that knowledge to your game?
> [{quoted}](name=FlyingMoonPurse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2018-05-19T05:38:45.995+0000) > > Tons of high elo players like sunset are doing just fine with eve though. Have you considered looking into how they path and mimicking, or applying that knowledge to your game? I was always on op.gg searching for the best Eve builds and strats I could find and applying them to my games. If I kept at it, I probably could find success but the jg role for me right now just feels terrible to play overall. I’m not having fun and I will not force myself to play a videogame that I do not find fun.
Pika Fox (NA)
: See you tomorrow/next week.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-18T21:39:48.357+0000) > > See you tomorrow/next week. Hopefully! That means something has changed if you do!
Salson (EUNE)
: I borderline quit League until I heard of the Jungle changes some 2 weeks back. Now I'm back, and it's a blast getting to lane again without some ass trying to ruin my game by forcing 2v1s. So to each his own I guess.
> [{quoted}](name=Salson,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-18T22:00:49.993+0000) > > I borderline quit League until I heard of the Jungle changes some 2 weeks back. > > Now I'm back, and it's a blast getting to lane again without some ass trying to ruin my game by forcing 2v1s. > > So to each his own I guess. Well, have fun for the both of us then!
: I wouldn't abandon my main over that, I would just see it as a challenge. But to each their own, I suppose.
> [{quoted}](name=Demented Gag,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-18T22:14:51.631+0000) > > I wouldn't abandon my main over that, I would just see it as a challenge. But to each their own, I suppose. Under normal circumstances I definitely wouldn’t; but these are definitely not normal circumstances.
: Nothing changed on eve lol still tge same lvl 6 powetspike sooo nit sure what he is crying about
> [{quoted}](name=KlydeFrog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-05-19T00:56:37.643+0000) > > Nothing changed on eve lol still tge same lvl 6 powetspike sooo nit sure what he is crying about During this patch the game is decided way before you hit lvl6.
Rainfall (EUNE)
: what if i told you,you can just ignore scuttlecrab and continoue clearing your jungle and you will not fall behind you will just not be able to make level 3 ganks?
> [{quoted}](name=Rainfall,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-05-18T23:52:48.281+0000) > > what if i told you,you can just ignore scuttlecrab and continoue clearing your jungle and you will not fall behind you will just not be able to make level 3 ganks? From what I’ve seen, that strategy usually does not end too well.
Perma CC (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Evalion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-18T20:23:24.186+0000) > > BYE LOL Really could care less if you leave. Actually cant stand eve players anyways or eve in general. Also LOVING THESE JUNGLE CHANGES AND LAUGHING at the whiny jungle mains that abused old oppressive jungle and are now getting put in their fucking place. But yea goodbye you wont be missed. :3 Like I said before, good luck to all other players! {{sticker:katarina-love}}
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: Upcoming Jungle Changes for 8.10
I've never been one to totally dismiss any changes the balance team decides to go through with as absolutely terrible right off the bat but this doesn't even sound like a good idea. As an Evelynn player, I am encouraged by her kit to avoid confrontation with the enemy jungler as much as possible at the early stages of the game due to how weak she is during those times. There are many other jglers who share this same weakness; this is just a direct buff to the already early game centric jungler meta we are in at the moment. Every game is going to be Warwick, Xin Xaho, Lee Sin, Jarvan, possibly Twitch jungle, etc. This does not promote jungle diversity at all. I'll play the changes but if its too overbearing, I'm probably not going to continue to play the game. I'm tired of this fixation with PVP interaction in the early game when a great deal of champions are designed specifically to avoid PVP interaction at those times. All this does is force players into playing a small group of early game champions. I don't like when a game tricks me into thinking I have choices when there really is none.
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: Why you are saying you do no damage and proceed to buy mobis when everyone got their resistance buffed
> [{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=29ALA010,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-09T03:20:13.732+0000) > > Why you are saying you do no damage and proceed to buy mobis when everyone got their resistance buffed Not the only combination of early items i tried. Also rushed jg item sorc shoes, and a variety of other things. Probably should have mentioned that. Also, you don’t have any items after your first clear, which is when I like to gank so it must be something wrong with my runes if I am doing no damage. Suggestions?
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Kytty (NA)
: Eve's E
They won’t listen. They reworked Evelynn to be less frustrating to play against, not viable or fun to play. Every ability in the game<perma stealth, ergo her kit must be crap.
: q was hybrid too right?
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tWyNjOps,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-06T23:48:35.869+0000) > > q was hybrid too right? No, the E was the only one of her abilities they contemplated giving a hybrid scaling.
: Patch 7.22 notes
Kinda bummed that the hybrid scalings on Evelynn's E that were on the PBE didn't go through. Akali, Katarina, and Shaco got to keep their hybrid scalings with their update. Why so biased against Eve and her mains? {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
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: She's too slow to reliably flank and catch enemies that are alone
Yeah, they really need to bump up her base movement speed. It use to be 340 (which is already slow) so i have no idea why the hell they nerfed it to 335 AND took away the movement speed steroid from her old kit. They are so worried about making sure Evelynn is healthy to play against that they seemed to have forgotten the primary objective of making the champ fun to play as. If they believe that having perma stealth is so inherently toxic that it means that they have to go so far as to make a champ unfun to play as, then I would rather them just remove it entirely and just put it on an ability like Twitch's or Rengar's stealth. Its pretty ridiculous how ungainly her kit is all because they want to keep her in check. That's not good game design at all and they should know better by now honestly.
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: Se has 2 gapclosers + camouflage to get close. Empowered E and backwards ult are the gapclosers. They are shown in the champ spotlight vid.
Other assassins don't need to use their execute ults as a form of gap close and as I said before, empowered E is basically auto attack range. That;s not a gap closer.
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: Yeah, late game is tanky, but you need to be very careful about the build path leading towards that. How do you usually go about the build path?
> [{quoted}](name=TheThundersRoar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IeABX9W3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T20:07:02.692+0000) > > Yeah, late game is tanky, but you need to be very careful about the build path leading towards that. > > How do you usually go about the build path? I usually go Cinderhulk, Cleaver,then complete my boots. if i need armor real bad I'll start building dead man's, or wit's end if I need mr. If I'm really ahead I usually always get wit's end after the boots. Zzrot is usually last item but if I need more mr than what wits end provides, I'll buy one of the mr component parts and sit on that. You can take three scaling mr glyphs if you think you need more mr but you'll have to wait until you are level 18 to hit the 40%cdr cap if you do.
: Looks really interesting. I might try it in normals. Although it seems very squishy until late game. Late game the items go together nicely and make you kinda tanky, but up to that point, Cinderhulk would be gold-inefficient and you'd have no MR outside of Wit's End, especially if your Glyphs are CDR rather than MR. It does look like a damage-oriented Shyvana build, so that's fine. I'd probably only pick it alongside another (actual) tank, though. +1 for cool build.
> [{quoted}](name=TheThundersRoar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IeABX9W3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-07T18:17:52.099+0000) > > Looks really interesting. I might try it in normals. Although it seems very squishy until late game. Late game the items go together nicely and make you kinda tanky, but up to that point, Cinderhulk would be gold-inefficient and you&#x27;d have no MR outside of Wit&#x27;s End, especially if your Glyphs are CDR rather than MR. > > It does look like a damage-oriented Shyvana build, so that&#x27;s fine. I&#x27;d probably only pick it alongside another (actual) tank, though. > > +1 for cool build. Late game you have 240 armor. When attack targets with wits end, your mr is 200, and you have upwards of 3700 health. I almost never die in team fights lol.
Salron (NA)
: Cleaver is horrid on Shyv due to the fact that she only does physical dmg with autos and none of her spells can apply it
> [{quoted}](name=Face The Win,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IeABX9W3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-07T18:23:39.704+0000) > > Cleaver is horrid on Shyv due to the fact that she only does physical dmg with autos and none of her spells can apply it I thought so too, but combined with wits end and the perma-burnout you get from the 40% CDR, you not only deal a ton of damage but you are also helping your teammates do damage as well. You are reducing the armor and magic resist of any champion you hit, squishy, tank, etc. That means if your teammates are smart enough to focus down the target you are thrashing, its gonna die really fast. And its also the reason why I take ad reds and the natural talent mastery.
: 40% CDR Cinderhulk Black Cleaver/Wit's End Shyvana
All you gotta do is take scaling Cdr glyphs mein.
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: Leona’s AD Beatdown
{{champion:102}} {{summoner:3}} {{summoner:11}} {{item:3158}} {{item:3931}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3748}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3065}} Then take scaling cdr quints and glyphs. Scaling armor seals and attack speed marks. 18/0/12 for masteries.Once you get the ionian boots and sheen, you should be at 40% cdr and at this point not even a kalista can kite you if you engage right. You have a perma burnout and your q is on something like a 0.2 second cooldown. I've had great success with it. You're kinda squishy early on, but once you finish titanic you're tanky as hell and can decimate turrets as well as any Udyr. Found this build on reddit. Forgot the name of the person who made it though. You could probably swap out some of the cdr glyphs with scaling magic resist though.
Visigoth (NA)
: Bar devourer, with the new Patience change I think the jungle will be nearly perfect
I kind of agree with you just a bit. in about 90% of my matches, there is always a Master Yi going devourer. Yeah, if i counter jg him real hard (just sneak into his jg while he's doing red/blue and steal it with smite, i main Evelynn so this is easy most of the time) he gets a bad start but its kinda hard to stop Sated without out right ending the game very quickly and thats really the only way to counter devourer junglers. You have to get a major lead, dont let up, and end it quick which is a shame since unlike most people I rather enjoy long games. It is kinda hard to completely stop farm efficient jglers like Yi and Shyvanna though. I enjoyed the few days of devourer being disabled. As you said, i got to see so many other junglers. And honestly, I'm just plain tired of seeing Master Yi's face every single freaken game. He and the other Dev. Junglers aren't unstoppable, as most of them can be countered with hard CC, but its gets old fast.
: you aren't going to see more escape on eve. all stealth champs tend to be weaker in their actual kits because their whole gameplay should revolve around critical thinking and assessing the situation. "do they know im here?" "how likely am i to escape if i go in?" "does it look like my team will back me up?". those should be at every stealth champ's mind all the time. eve is all about risk and reward. she has escape. especially if you build her tank bruiser, you can still two shot squishy carries and be able to stay alive in a team fight long enough to get a few high priority kills and escape with w. she is so mobile especially since they put deadman's plate into the game. i almost always buy that on her now for added mobility and tankiness. Referring to your "q scales more off ap than ad" comment. You just have to adapt your play style for what role you are playing. if you are going ap eve, max q. if you are going ad eve, max e. simple.
To be fair, most of the other stealth champions also have some form of reliable escape. Shaco has a blink and a clone, Wukong has a clone, Rengar has a pounce, Kahzix has his pounce, akali has a dash and smokescreen, all of these are escapes that are reliable and can be executed independent of other factors. Evelynn does not have these and for good reason. A champion that is invis 95% of the time should not be able to pounce or blink. However, when in range of a champion and visable she should at least have some form of minor failsafe. A spell on hit movement speed buff is not a blink or a pounce. Any form of minor cc instantly cancels this out and so its not really that reliable but again, the champion in question is invis most of the time and so her failsafe shouldn't be too sure of a thing. I'm not denying Eve's viability. If she wasn't viable I wouldn't still be playing her. However, as I said before, compared to other picks she is underpowered and the return of her Ws previous passive would give her that little extra survivablility that most think she really needs. Most assassins in the game do not have to build tank/bruiser because most assassins have a way to avoid taking damage. Evelynn has to take the full brunt of her enemy's attacks and if she gets cc'd, nine times out of ten she's done for. I don't think that fact should change but at least give her a minor chance at escaping.
: i don't understand how everyone is complaining about eve's current state...with the new jungling items and the new juggernaut items, eve can be built LITERALLY ANY WAY YOU WANT. her Q scales off of AP and AD. her E gives you attack speed and an added hit which means instant sheen or lich bane/runeglaive proc, and her ult slows and gives you a shield. you can build her however you want in any situation. your team has too much ap? build ad tank eve. your team almost full ad? build ap mage eve. you can play her in every game and build her differently to fit the role your team needs. there are not many champs that are like this and are still viable. However, i will admit that eve falls off late game especially with the new juggernaut champs that have been reworked into the game. Ultimately though, she is still super viable and i see her at least once in the higher ranked games that stream on the LoL client home screen when i log in.
Super viable is pushing it. There are just to many issues with her design. Her q scales more off of Ap than Ad and her e vice versa so you can really only build one type of damage for any of these abilities to be truly effective. I use to go magus/trinity force but then runeglaive came out and was nerfed one patch later and I don't even bother with Ap eve anymore. Runeglaive's spellblade no longer converts physical damage to magic damage and its the weakest spellblade in the game. But I don't even really care about that. My biggest issue is the removal of her Ws passive. The passive on her W was really her only reliable escape. If someone chased you and your w was down you could q them while running away and gain stacked movement speed. This is nowhere near as effective as other assassin's escapes like, say, Katrina's shunpo or Leblanc or Akali's escapes but that's to be expected from a champion who is stealthed 95% of the time. Then they removed the passive for this reset that depends on how many hits you get on the enemy or if you get a kill and these factors are NOT reliable. It would be one thing if her q's missile speed was alot quicker but I can understand why that wouldn't be a good idea. I really don't see why it was removed in the first place, as any form of CC would still stop Eve in her tracks and result in her deletion shortly after. Yes she does see high elo play. Yes I've watched multitudes of these video on youtube and the ones with commentary all agree that Eve is still pretty weak. Most junglers simply do her job better. I'm not asking for some huge, huge buff, just the passive on her W returned to the way it was as an assassin should at least have some form of reliable escape.
: It sucks, doesn't it. Seeing how they are replaying to the other posts is just irritating and let's not forget the downvotes. :((( As an old Evelynn main, I surrendered. Nobody cares about us, nobody. Riot Games completely ignores everything we suggest about changes related to Eve. We begged them for unnerfing the missile speed on the Q, changing Ravage to magic again, reverting W, bringing back the max health on Agony Emrace-nothing. By the way, Evelynn is balanced by different member of the balance team every time. So, that is why there are so many different changes to her. Her designer (remake) does not show, sadly.
Eve and her mains spend as much money and time into this game as any other player and our pleas deserve to be heard. Not just as players but as CUSTOMERS. I don't mean to sound mellow dramatic or preachy but what we essentially have here is poor customer service.
YuGiHo (NA)
: I love you so much. i cant tell you how many post i have made about the status of eve since she was crippled for the first time and left to rot for over a year. but riot hates eve even if they wont say it, she got a rework and was beautiful and less than a month later she got kneecapped. Riot loves to spit in eves player base.
It really does seem like they have this undying hatred for Eve and her mains and I'm sick to death of it. Evelynn mains are part of their player AND customer base too and when 99% of that base says there needs to be changes you need to suck it up and at least throw them a bone. But they don't even do that! They just flat out ignore us! Mean while in patch 5.17 Draven gets to globally gloat over his kills. Which is something, correct me if I'm wrong, no one even asked for. I don't want to start spamming the forums but as of now I am determined to at least get Evelynn's W passive reverted back to the way it was. I have some great gameplay moments as Eve, no doubt, but I'm sick to death of seeing assassins kill an enemy and jump out with a dash or escape while my freaken W is still on cooldown cause I didnt get a kill or enough spell hits. At least give us that! Invisibility can be Op but it becomes useless if you cant follow it up with anything else. I will complain and complain, and I beg anyone who wants changes to complain with me. From what I've witnessed, this has gone on long enough. And I swear if a rioter responds with "we can't do anything..." Yeah, you can. Actually listen to your CUSTOMERS and fix it.
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