Comentários de Rioters
: Assassins and Bruisers aren't fun to play against
I mean. What’s wrong with a class that has the most insane amount of mobility and the lowest amount of counterplay possible. Also what’s wrong with a class that does adc levels of damage, is tankier than an actual tank and has the “weakness” of being immobile, but then builds {{item:3044}} {{item:3742}} And suddenly their only weakness is gone.
Sarthero (NA)
: Why is there such item discrepancy between AD/Armor and AP/MR Items?
Zhonya’s does not need to be removed. -.- atleast not until this rampant damage problem gets dealt with.
: Dear Riot: Fix the jungle
I’ve flat out stopped playing because of it. Jumped on the ff14 train and until I see some jungle changes that actually make the role even a little fun again, I won’t be looking back.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LkYhTc1E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-14T22:25:46.973+0000) > > Still say yasuo/akali are the most overloaded champions in the game. yasuo might be an annoying champion design and basically game breaking, but the kit is not overloaded. He has weaknesses.
> [{quoted}](name=A Real Troll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LkYhTc1E,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T22:27:58.813+0000) > > yasuo might be an annoying champion design and basically game breaking, but the kit is not overloaded. He has weaknesses. His kit is overloaded though. Let me just point out what his ult alone has. It’s an aoe cc That resets his shield Does a fuck ton of damage Blinks him into you Is safe from turrets And grants him 50% bonus armor pen That is ONE ability (all be it an ultimate) but it’s not like the rest of his kit isn’t overloaded. His q does damage in aoe Crits Applies on hits Has a knock up Effected by cdr and gains cdr for attack speed His w is his most simple ability. Gain immunity from ranges champions. His e is a dash That does magic damage Has basically no real cooldown And makes his knock up point and click. And lastly his passive. Grants him a shield for walking. And gives him 2000 gold in stats giving him a 7 kill lead by default at 2 items. Like. The pure amount of brainless overloaded this is, is insane.
Krystab (NA)
: Overloaded Champion of the Year. Vote ! ! ! ! !
Still say yasuo/akali are the most overloaded champions in the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T12:10:56.771+0000) > > And are still down 3 levels and don’t get to play the game. Go and listen to any high elo jungler pretty much praises the current jg changes. The biggest riot haters from the jg role - iwd and tarzaned basically said it's the best jg so far.
> [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T13:24:19.093+0000) > > Go and listen to any high elo jungler pretty much praises the current jg changes. The biggest riot haters from the jg role - iwd and tarzaned basically said it's the best jg so far. Of course they think it’s the “best jgl so far” every other jungler quit the damn game or switched roles so all they ever play against are auto fills.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-14T11:08:53.683+0000) > > Until they lose a single camp and are now down 4 levels to a solo lane and no longer get to play the game. then they go and clear the other 4 camps that just respawned.
> [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T11:19:24.199+0000) > > then they go and clear the other 4 camps that just respawned. And are still down 3 levels and don’t get to play the game.
Mortismo (EUW)
: I dont think you know how new diana works. And youre matched with silver players in normal games too, so my statement is pretty accurate There's plenty of ways to improve, but you just refuse to.
> [{quoted}](name=Mortismo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHnR8k3r,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T11:39:08.903+0000) > > I dont think you know how new diana works. And youre matched with silver players in normal games too, so my statement is pretty accurate > > There's plenty of ways to improve, but you just refuse to. I wasn’t talking about new Diana. Also normals doesn’t have a mmr. Also funny. You’ve offered nothing but “you just won’t bother with (insert vague bs response here) instead of anything with any real substance.
: A lot of high elo junglers consider those s10 changes pretty decent, rewarding better junglers for their smart pathing and stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-14T11:03:19.521+0000) > > A lot of high elo junglers consider those s10 changes pretty decent, rewarding better junglers for their smart pathing and stuff. Until they lose a single camp and are now down 4 levels to a solo lane and no longer get to play the game.
Mortismo (EUW)
: I mean, you're silver 4. There's plenty of mages that have way higher burst than most assassins. Syndra oneshots at level 6 with ignite, and she doesn't even risk jumping on anyone. Umbral doesn't remove the counterplay, you litterally see the assassin when he clears the ward. Why are you alone in a side lane? Randuins isnt gonna do it, get a GA, group with your team. Assassins punish bad players, thats why theyre such an underrepresentated class in competetive Akali is pretty stupid yeah, but diana, dodge her Q and assuming shes not giga fed, she shouldnt do anything assuming you have a team. Talon, dont be alone in side, dont hug walls, group with your team
> [{quoted}](name=Mortismo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHnR8k3r,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T10:28:56.039+0000) > > I mean, you're silver 4. There's plenty of mages that have way higher burst than most assassins. Syndra oneshots at level 6 with ignite, and she doesn't even risk jumping on anyone. > > Umbral doesn't remove the counterplay, you litterally see the assassin when he clears the ward. Why are you alone in a side lane? Randuins isnt gonna do it, get a GA, group with your team. Assassins punish bad players, thats why theyre such an underrepresentated class in competetive > > Akali is pretty stupid yeah, but diana, dodge her Q and assuming shes not giga fed, she shouldnt do anything assuming you have a team. Talon, dont be alone in side, dont hug walls, group with your team Dodge her q? The thing she throws mid r and still gets the reset on? Mkay. And here’s the thing about umbral. He doesn’t clear the ward. He doesn’t give a shit about the ward. He wants is disabled while he jumps 8 walls and instant kills you behind your entire team, to jump another 8 walls and get away skot free. It’s not like it just lets him see the ward. It flat out disables it. Also nice shot at my rank. On an account. That doesn’t play ranked.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Riot has a very weird balancing opinion about jungle. At first they wanted the jungle to be less afk farming (removal of devourer) and so they forced them to be ganking more. Then they saw that some champions were overperforming at lvl 2 ganking and spamm ganking (Twitch, Lee) and so instead of nerfing them, they nerfed the entirety of jungle which is just stupid if you ask me
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dY2lreXK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-14T09:47:40.465+0000) > > Riot has a very weird balancing opinion about jungle. At first they wanted the jungle to be less afk farming (removal of devourer) and so they forced them to be ganking more. Then they saw that some champions were overperforming at lvl 2 ganking and spamm ganking (Twitch, Lee) and so instead of nerfing them, they nerfed the entirety of jungle which is just stupid if you ask me I still stand by saying the only change that needed to happen to being early gank junglers in line was the removal of the slow on red buff. Suddenly the level 2 ganks aren’t even close to as strong. But nope. Good ol rito killed an entire role.
SS1986 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=meowwow7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKKEr4Eo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-14T03:53:49.418+0000) > > there's a simple reason {{item:3156}} hasn't changed, and that is how long the shield last while being buffed by the 50 mr. {{item:3053}} has some defense to it and better shield, but decays quickly even without it being attack. {{item:3046}} might be the easiest shield to proc out of this, but there is nothing adding onto that shield, and it's also only 2 seconds long. Well explain the simple reason the other 2 are bought 10x more .
> [{quoted}](name=SS1986,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKKEr4Eo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T04:07:35.996+0000) > > Well explain the simple reason the other 2 are bought 10x more . Steraks is bought more because it’s the most broken item in the game. Phantom dancer is bought more because it’s the ONLY defensive tool an adc has.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHnR8k3r,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T02:40:36.185+0000) > > Improve my play. On it. I’ll just improve my ability to not be within 2000 units of any wall with a talon in my game. > > I’ll just improve my ability to not be within 8000 units of an akali. > > I’ll just improve my ability to not be point and click instant killed by a Diana. Improve your positioning? Improve the way you do vision? Improve the way you build? If you are caught on your own with no vision of the enemy that is on you. If you get caught because you disrespected your enemies that's on you. Complaining because an assassin is doing ITS JOB is hilarious. Proper vision and positioning is a very important aspect to deal with literally any flanking champion in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHnR8k3r,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T02:45:04.765+0000) > > Improve your positioning? Improve the way you do vision? Improve the way you build? If you are caught on your own with no vision of the enemy that is on you. If you get caught because you disrespected your enemies that's on you. Complaining because an assassin is doing ITS JOB is hilarious. > > Proper vision and positioning is a very important aspect to deal with literally any flanking champion in the game. Do you realize HOW MUCH vision is takes to deal with a talon? Better yet. Do you realize HOW MUCH vision it takes to deal with a talon with {{item:3179}} This item BY ITSELF removes the only weakness of an assassin. And yes. Let me just quickly buy a randuin’s on my jinx to deal with talon and suddenly he useless for the entire game.
Mortismo (EUW)
: Improve your play?
> [{quoted}](name=Mortismo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHnR8k3r,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-14T02:19:45.691+0000) > > Improve your play? Improve my play. On it. I’ll just improve my ability to not be within 2000 units of any wall with a talon in my game. I’ll just improve my ability to not be within 8000 units of an akali. I’ll just improve my ability to not be point and click instant killed by a Diana.
: the new champ gets it for free
> [{quoted}](name=Lux Is Mai Waifu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1uH69aoV,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-12-14T01:19:25.760+0000) > > the new champ gets it for free I mean. It’s a ct champ. Did you think it wouldn’t be overloaded out it’s ass?
: why the fuck would you put lifesteal on an adc
And why shouldn’t an adc be able to build lifesteal? It’s the ONLY defensive tool they have left that sometimes works? -.-
: Why do you think they are trying to scapegoat mages in particular? Why don't you think there is any value to their argument? Sorry for asking so many questions.
> [{quoted}](name=Acemaster81,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qxyxQGOs,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-13T20:46:21.300+0000) > > Why do you think they are trying to scapegoat mages in particular? Why don't you think there is any value to their argument? Sorry for asking so many questions. They scapegoat mages because they are one of a few classes that can be played in every role. So more people will jump on the train. And their arguments aren’t that valid because mages simply aren’t broken. The only mage item that is seemingly that strong is zhonya’s, and the only reason zhonya’s seem so strong is because it’s one of three defensive items that actually works in the game anymore. (Fun fact, bruisers have the other two) Also. Why wouldn’t they want to scapegoat? Bruisers are THE strongest class in the game for solo que. they want to keep that slot, so people like hashinshin will cry bruisers suck mages op, all while shitting up and down every other class in the game, to attempt to keep and possibly increase their power level even more.
Keiaga (NA)
: Mordekaiser isn't a mage. Ranged champs tend to underperform when it comes to winrates if they go toplane. Toplane isn't exclusively for fighters and tanks.
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TWHMK1g8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-13T20:13:42.309+0000) > > Mordekaiser isn't a mage. > > Ranged champs tend to underperform when it comes to winrates if they go toplane. > > Toplane isn't exclusively for fighters and tanks. Right? This crap about “top lane sucks because range” is getting old.
: Mages?
Mages aren’t broken. It’s literally just the bruiser mains trying to scapegoat.
: Do you guys think Armor and Magic Resist need a change or rework?
: Post the video and I'll analyze. What probably happened is that you just facetanked his Q several times. Unsurprisingly, repeatedly failing to dodge a narrow skillshot tends to get you killed.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rQHLhBLR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-12T23:57:04.074+0000) > > Post the video and I'll analyze. What probably happened is that you just facetanked his Q several times. > > Unsurprisingly, repeatedly failing to dodge a narrow skillshot tends to get you killed. Haha. Even dodging a narrow skillshot tends to get you killed in this game.
pwc2016 (NA)
: How in the acutal hell do you beat a Yasuo
Because. You have to be atleast 2000 gold ahead of yasuo to be even with him.
xALESIAx (EUW)
: Am I the only one that thinks Akali is weak right now?
: Sick of people forfeiting just because they feel bad. Bump forfeit option up to 25 min
Maybe once games aren’t decided at minute 5 and this meta slows down a little bit. But currently. No.
: revert akali shroud back to her pre rework shroud
The issue is her 3 unconditional dashes. This champion is not balanceable when she has 100% control over every single fight.
Dotty LB (NA)
: We can pretend like CertainlyT is the problem but he isnt.
> [{quoted}](name=Dotty LB,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqVJ9gEZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T05:25:03.120+0000) > > We can pretend like CertainlyT is the problem but he isnt. Every champion he’s made outside of Warwick has been a fucking problem consistently.
AhernfVy (NA)
: Why does 10/4 Udyr lose to 4/4 Darius who misses all 3 Qs in a duel?
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KvjnBBR,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T03:33:50.906+0000) > > Warwic was broken. > Karma was broken. P/b in pro > Soraka wasn’t reworked. One thing changed > Alister was broken at his rework. P/b in pro > Gangplank had a 100% p/b rate in pro after his rework. > Maokai was okay I guess. > Poppy was also p/b in pro. "broken" ok dude whatever you say
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KvjnBBR,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T04:16:46.136+0000) > > "broken" ok dude whatever you say 4/6 of them were litteraly pick/ban in pro play. That means there were FLAT OUT busted in pro play.
: That doesn't make sense, you know right ?
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:49:57.776+0000) > > That doesn't make sense, you know right ? How does it not make sense? If triforce gets removed is it not a nerf to every triforce user? -.-
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KvjnBBR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:48:14.489+0000) > > They also reverted kogmaw. Even tho he wasn’t broken. > > But that’s why we don’t like reworks. They ALWAYS break them to some stupid degree to the point where they have such a high banrate you can never hope to play them. always? {{champion:19}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:78}} and i'm pretty certain i'm missing tons of other reworked champions.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KvjnBBR,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-12-12T02:00:35.440+0000) > > always? {{champion:19}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:78}} and i'm pretty certain i'm missing tons of other reworked champions. Warwic was broken. Karma was broken. P/b in pro Soraka wasn’t reworked. One thing changed Alister was broken at his rework. P/b in pro Gangplank had a 100% p/b rate in pro after his rework. Maokai was okay I guess. Poppy was also p/b in pro.
: Why are people so adverse to reworks?
They also reverted kogmaw. Even tho he wasn’t broken. But that’s why we don’t like reworks. They ALWAYS break them to some stupid degree to the point where they have such a high banrate you can never hope to play them.
R G (EUW)
: We really need 2 ban per game ..
We wouldn’t need this if the power balance wasn’t so damn bad in this game. You used to be able to ban what countered you. Now you HAVE to ban the riot approved flavor of the month.
: Unpopular opinion: The one dude with the lowest rank in the ranked queue is the scariest.
Idk. Still annoying that I was in b1 getting thrown into games with all golds. -.-
: Is it Unrealistic to Get My Main Role I Choose When I Queue For Solo/Duo Ranked?
That happens when riot guts one role into the fucking dirt. Everyone cried jungle op. And now that jungle is shit, no one wants to play the role, which in turn means “have fun being auto filled to jungle”
: You're the one claiming it was nerfed because of vayne top Please, provide some proof for your claim since most of your posts are just trolling
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T22:58:57.007+0000) > > You're the one claiming it was nerfed because of vayne top > > Please, provide some proof for your claim since most of your posts are just trolling BECAUSE VAYNE TOP WAS ONE OF TWO USERS OF THE ITEM IN HIGH ELO. Why the hell else would they gut the item? Because Lul why not?
: "We're nerfing Rageblade because it is too strong on Vayne top" Wait they didn't say that, they said it was too strong in general, on champions who perform well in high elo You know, the reason they nerf things
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T21:58:30.654+0000) > > "We're nerfing Rageblade because it is too strong on Vayne top" > > Wait they didn't say that, they said it was too strong in general, on champions who perform well in high elo > > You know, the reason they nerf things Oh? Do tell. What champions not named Vayne and kai’sa we’re abusing it in high elo? Master yi? Varus? Who was a joke? Kog? Who’s been a joke? Jax? Who built it maybe 1/5 games?
: I don't mind when adcs are strong, but Caitlyn has too much self peel.
I don’t mind bruisers being strong, but when they are running at 800ms they are far to mobile
: Ah right, forgot how they did that specifically for vayne top, and not for how strong it was in general
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T21:05:28.986+0000) > > Ah right, forgot how they did that specifically for vayne top, and not for how strong it was in general There were all of two strong picks building it. -.- Vayne and kai’sa. Are you actually about to argue that this nerf wasn’t to hit them?
: He'd be absolutely useless with major compensatory buffs.
> [{quoted}](name=DarukongSr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zAlLEFkJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-19T17:03:23.252+0000) > > He'd be absolutely useless with major compensatory buffs. No. Compensation buffs are the reason we are in this mess.
: So how long ago did they specifically nerf vayne top? Since I can't recall them doing a nerf to vayne top
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T20:08:40.476+0000) > > So how long ago did they specifically nerf vayne top? > > Since I can't recall them doing a nerf to vayne top When they gutted rageblade for ranged champions.
: Whats your weakness that holds you back?
Hmmmm. Probably taking too much control. I refuse to play champions who cannot impact my allies lanes. If I’m top I’m playing gp If I’m jungle I’m playing Kayn If I’m mid I’m playing tf If I’m adc I’m playing Ezreal/jinx/Ashe If I’m support I’m playing senna
: He isn't played much in high elo or even low elo So doesn't matter how horrible lancing against him is, or the fact he can near 1 shot someone with his empowered W Riot won't touch him
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TrR72cyI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-11T19:31:16.615+0000) > > He isn't played much in high elo or even low elo > > So doesn't matter how horrible lancing against him is, or the fact he can near 1 shot someone with his empowered W > > Riot won't touch him Vayne top was played much and yet they fucked her? Sooooo
: I know how to fix top issues and make the game more interactive, PORTALS in alcoves!!!
: So how do you win these games ? Can someone tell me ?
My favorite part about games like these is that the person who is feeding always thinks they’re a fucking anime protagonist, so they just continue running in face first to be shat on.
: Except jungle and bot lane still decide the game??? Dragons are way too important for that.
> [{quoted}](name=Apocalypsic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fcuA4Gmm,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T02:11:41.539+0000) > > Except jungle and bot lane still decide the game??? Dragons are way too important for that. Until the top laner foams down 4 levels up and 1v3s because he has such a stupid level advantage.
: Nerf Conq MORE
Sure. When are we nerfing mobility and ms steroids on melees so they can’t negate their only weakness as well?
Eedat (NA)
: I don't know what they were thinking. They hard nerfed jungle, nerfed bot lane, then simultaneously buffed both solo lanes in one go
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fcuA4Gmm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-10T17:22:27.064+0000) > > I don't know what they were thinking. They hard nerfed jungle, nerfed bot lane, then simultaneously buffed both solo lanes in one go They listened to the hashinshin’s and fucked the game for everyone else.
: Lux shield nerf.
The LAST thing this game needs is the few defensive options it has nerfed.
5050BS (NA)
: Junglers LOVED the old Jungle 2 in 10 players, 8 in 10 players love the new jungle
Yup. And now that all the jungle mains are saying “fuck this game” and moving to other games, you can all cry about being auto filled to jungle.
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