: that just means the bush is good. not the alcove
> [{quoted}](name=MaskedMadness,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5ay9gAX7,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-24T02:27:40.360+0000) > > that just means the bush is good. not the alcove there's a slit in the back of the alcoves I don't think people realize is there yet. It hides vision from both sides
: What Ive noticed so far already from our new Summoners Rift
Alcoves are actually really abuseable, that third bush there limits vision immensely and allows for easy back door gank.
EnsembIe (NA)
: The Sorry State of Mordekaiser's Skins
Imagine your customer support staff and your development team not in constant contact with each other. If only there was some way to see real time customer feedback from case tickets
: They announced this is how it works when it was revealed, its so you cant just make 1 -10 iq play and escape what should be a game ending buff.. thats what it is.. its telling you the game is over, it needs to end. Its not snowbally.. its the game going for 30+ minutes and it being too long.
> [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EmrKHi0Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-21T05:07:23.032+0000) > > They announced this is how it works when it was revealed, its so you cant just make 1 -10 iq play and escape what should be a game ending buff.. thats what it is.. its telling you the game is over, it needs to end. Its not snowbally.. its the game going for 30+ minutes and it being too long. The game is over when a nexus falls, the game should not force that on us, but rather force the players to. I would rather play a 50minute match instead of everything being decided within 30, that'll remove dozens of champions from the game.
: Why is sanguine blade a thing?
I think it's still too early to be decided. I will say, the item components themselves are pretty lousy for more people who build it, the lethality item lost its CS buff too. SB is nice all in all, but I think just too early. It'll likely have Atk speed reduction to it though, other than that, the item isn't that great, but can see it being really good if you're behind. Personally, I think if you're ahead you should avoid building it.
Hordes66 (NA)
: For S10 - Fix the garbage tier matchmaker
Riot gives you some dude with 1500 games for the season and a 40% w/r and when he plays like poo like the past 1499 games, they expect you to say damn dude, it's not your fault you over extended 24/7, spent more time dead than alive, managed a 10 vision score in a 45min game, etc. Riot needs to figure out a system where players that have a "tilt" indication on their account can practice in norms first before going to ranked. Not to punish the player, but some people will literally just queue ranked only whether they're on their main or first timing a champion. They'll also queue up again despite being on a like, 10 loss streak and just hail marying the game from tilt rather than trying to approach it with a steady mind. Also, fuck the people that rage quit so often, I had a 40% afk rate in my S9 games that only increased when Riot servers machine broke.
: Remove Darius' lag compensation and I'll be accepting of buffs to him. Its pretty fucking stupid that he can hook people who are far out of range or even untargetable.
> [{quoted}](name=WoonStruck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x53y9G8y,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-20T04:25:07.903+0000) > > Remove Darius' lag compensation and I'll be accepting of buffs to him. > > Its pretty fucking stupid that he can hook people who are far out of range or even untargetable. nothing like getting pulled out of my Master Yi Q. Though if I remember correctly, that is a Yi bug in general that has persisted for far too long now.
jtkitten (NA)
: We told you it would happen, and it did!
Honestly, with the way Riot does things, it seriously makes me question if they're playing the game themselves. Most of them feel like their have a silver elo's understanding of the game, the removal of TT was very obvious, they don't balance the game very well at time. You'll literally have some of the best players saying if they implement XXXXXX, then that will make XXXXXX so strong, no way that'll make it out of PBE. *Proceeds to make it out of PBE* Company just getting lazy with League, idk if they're too focused on their other games or what
: Senna simply does way too much poke damage
I just hate her snare, maybe because I'm not used to it, but feels really hard to dodge and to see.
: What if we would have a glacial
that fucker walked up to my team and his first auto conned and froze my entire team lmaooo
: your ranked system is just terrible
Riot doesn't actually police griefing. They said just report them, but it takes A LOT of rage quits or int games to get punished for it. But call that person a baby for ragequitting and you're going to the gulag
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a1IkkLEz,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-11-14T17:49:07.771+0000) > > Ryzen 3600x Full specifications please.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a1IkkLEz,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-11-15T18:02:12.027+0000) > > Full specifications please. 3600x 580 nitro+ 16gb 3600 more than enough for league lol. company is shitting the bed lately. In all 20 of my last games, one person was afk at start due to loading problems
iiRebs (NA)
: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751734-Recovering-Your-Password Do this now and mskes sure it is a new password. Go do the same for your email beforehand. This will stop them for getting into your account for the short term hopefully.
> [{quoted}](name=iiRebs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mEEUhZL9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-15T02:05:51.784+0000) > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751734-Recovering-Your-Password > > Do this now and mskes sure it is a new password. Go do the same for your email beforehand. This will stop them for getting into your account for the short term hopefully. actually, there's security risk right now where if you change your password, it doesn't sign you out. So the person still has access to account
Fluffi (NA)
: All I ask for S10
Riot Support has pretty much confirmed that, unless the devs improve the Blitzcrank bot, none of those wishes will come true. Punishment is almost 100% handled by the blitzcrank bot these days, if you want to do anything, you have to submit a ticket personally for the person, and ironically, click a check mark that says the after game report is the best way to handle matters ecks dee. Griefing is so bad nowadays and I imagine that with the release of Project A, it'll only be worse in a game where friendly fire is a thing.
: Dynamic Queue was Riot's way of trying to reintroduce Strategy to League, and Clash is it's prodigy.
True, I'd say the biggest issue ranked has right now is getting 4 other teammates that will play the game from start to finish. People rage quit so easily after giving first blood, losing a drag, getting ganked, their tower taken etc. What's worse is that instead of going afk, they usually just run it down. The ranked experience feels so shitty these days, I really hope next season improves it.
: cant wait for summoners to be nerfed into the ground.
summoners is way too free, like especially if they get an early annie, bro tibbers has more hp than my whole comp combined????
mack9112 (NA)
: What are your computer specifications? Compare it to required minimum specs of the game.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a1IkkLEz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-14T03:16:12.018+0000) > > What are your computer specifications? > > Compare it to required minimum specs of the game. Ryzen 3600x
: Hey folks. Sorry for the frustration around that feature. We're discussing what the best options are to get a toggle that allows you to go back to the default music. I'll keep you posted :)
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Xenogenic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=G0pXVroj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-11T19:01:32.644+0000) > > Hey folks. Sorry for the frustration around that feature. We're discussing what the best options are to get a toggle that allows you to go back to the default music. I'll keep you posted :) Wait a second, you responded on something that could ruin potential sales, meanwhile the rift is a complete disaster and the client is sinking rapidly but you have not said ANYTHING. BUT WHEN MONEY WAS INVOLVED YOU REPLY SAME DAY AND IGNORE HUNDREDS OF POSTS ABOUT GRIEFING AND GAME BUGS???????????????
Falrein (EUW)
: What are your biggest fears regarding your favourite champions/regions' future?
They turned my favorite champion since Season 1 Morde into a little bitch. He used to be the biggest dude on the block and now he has some gutted down and lame lore.
: Truths about fps and crash bugs - Riot ignoring players
Riot Support has time and time told me that complaining to them, whether it's about bugs, matchmaking, etc does nothing as they only enforce what they're given. They always tell me post on the boards so that the Devs will see it lol. It's like go ask mom and then she says go ask dad.
: Honestly can just get a completely fresh/new client at this point?
For people that have League not let you open up task manager, if you're using Windows 10, Windows+Tab will give you the option to open new desktop in the top left. From this new desktop, you can open task manager and close league.
: Please made this an acutal emote
yeah, good luck with that one lol
xGvPx (NA)
: Is the Akali hoodie for real?
It's not even a zip up....
Horızen (NA)
: What the f*ck is with losers spamming "tryhard"
@people who say they're just playing for fun and it's just a game in Ranked. Ranked is for winning only, norms and aram are for fun. Don't pull out race car fucking hecarim in my ranked game and just tell it's just a game, quit taking it so seriously
: So, um is Riot AFK?
It's kind of a joke because if you go to the support team, they give you some generic ass response like, oh sorry, I'm just some dude that restates what blitzcrank bot does, post on boards where riot can read it. Meanwhile *insert cricket noises*
: And no on disagrees that the system for trolls/inters needs improvement. Probably the safest way would to be set up multiple flags and checks. You would have to trigger x flags to trigger punishment. The flags would have to be set with things that would be tough to trigger without trying to. I get multiple games of someone being 0/x/y is annoying. You may disagree with this, but there is a chance, however slim, that the person is trying to learn a new champ. I have gotten some letter D grades on champ mastery (lists s,a,b,c) and if someone watch those games, they look really bad. Granted it probably wouldn't take me 20 games to raise that to at least c or b, still looks bad.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FmmU9uVv,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T15:08:36.763+0000) > > And no on disagrees that the system for trolls/inters needs improvement. Probably the safest way would to be set up multiple flags and checks. You would have to trigger x flags to trigger punishment. The flags would have to be set with things that would be tough to trigger without trying to. > > I get multiple games of someone being 0/x/y is annoying. You may disagree with this, but there is a chance, however slim, that the person is trying to learn a new champ. I have gotten some letter D grades on champ mastery (lists s,a,b,c) and if someone watch those games, they look really bad. Granted it probably wouldn't take me 20 games to raise that to at least c or b, still looks bad. Most of this is only referring to Ranked, Norms can be frustrating, if you're first timing a champ in Ranked, that in itself should flag your account for two reasons, potential troll or booster. There should NEVER be a reason to first time a champ in Ranked as that means someone is doing something irresponsible or a champion is so broken that they have to pick it, ex kass in the old days :(.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Piledriver,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RL60LeAQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-10T05:00:31.789+0000) > > I believe I was unfairly perma'd No. You weren't. >Ive had the account for multiple years Doesn't matter. >and im being charged for past actions and only a few recent. Past actions fall off. If you're getting higher levels of punishment up to a permanent ban, it's because it's **too frequent**. If you keep speeding, the police don't just say "well, it's been a year since the first time he sped, so we're just going to ignore that". The only way past behavior gets forgiven is if you stop that behavior. >Shit talking in league is what makes it fun and interesting. Insulting and harassing teammates is not "shit talking", it's abuse. Shit talking is things like "lol nice flash", calling someone's computer a toaster, poking fun at people who fuck up (in a **joking** way, not an insulting/rude way), etc. >now im 17 being perma'd after spending $750 on the game Neither the amount of money you spend, nor your age, matters. >I think my chat should just be disabled permanently and my ban uplifted. Riot tried this. They even tried **unbanning** people. Twice. Over 95% of players given another chance after a permanent ban either remained toxic in chat and were re-banned quickly (meaning they just ruined more games before getting banned again), or they resorted to trolling/griefing (meaning they just ruined more games.... you get the idea). So no, Riot isn't going to make an exception for you because then they'd have to do that for everyone, and that increases toxicity in games. >Being treated like its preschool. No, you're simply being asked to not be an asshole to others. That's not just preschool, that's life. >Also another point I believe if I cant get my account back then I should get a refund on all i spent. Why? If you buy a ticket to a sporting event and are ejected for violating the rules of that stadium, do they refund your ticket? Nope. If you buy a subscription to, say, a streaming TV channel, with the stipulation it's for personal use, and are kicked off it and banned because you were using it at your business (commercially), do you think you get a refund? Nope. You agreed to terms as part of your purchase. You broke those terms. >Taking hundreds of dollars and I cant have it back after what I believe is an unfair perma. They didn't take it. You gave them it. >I am by no means a toxic player Your logs and the fact you are acting this way after multiple warnings says differently. >but when people talk trash I'm not just gonna sit there and take it. That's your right. Riot has the right to set rules that you can't do that, and if you want to violate them, you can. Riot has the right to enforce their rules and to prohibit you from using their services. >People in chat literally can say anything they want to me without punishment They are subject to the same rules you are. >but because of past actions I am just banned after 2 insults, crazy. ;( There's a hell of a lot more than 2 insults. Let me point out all parts of your log that are toxic: > Game 1 > In-Game > Sir Piledriver: irelia ur retarted > Sir Piledriver: irelia i saw u fight under tower instead of fighting the rengar that wasnt under tower > Sir Piledriver: 0/5 > Sir Piledriver: quit the g ame > Sir Piledriver: get gud and i will > Sir Piledriver: trist > Sir Piledriver: ur bad > Sir Piledriver: just stop talking > Sir Piledriver: trist ur 2/4 > Sir Piledriver: just stop talking > Sir Piledriver: u did this to yourself > Sir Piledriver: now suffer > Sir Piledriver: feeds and complain when we lose > Sir Piledriver: trash team > Sir Piledriver: irelia is 0/8 and botlane fed > Sir Piledriver: your 0 and 5 and im 10 and 4 > Sir Piledriver: 5 > Sir Piledriver: explain > Sir Piledriver: finally got his first kill > Sir Piledriver: 1/4 > Sir Piledriver: trist did nothing so you misewell build correctly and TRY to do something > Sir Piledriver: sarcasm? > Sir Piledriver: and to think my team is trash talking me > Sir Piledriver: someone with an actual brain > Sir Piledriver: its 30 to 34 im trying my best to carry aatrox stop inting and whining and play the game > Sir Piledriver: yeah 2 iq league players Hell, that doesn't even include post game. And this is over half your log. Flaming people for their scores, continually harassing them for mistakes, that's not "trash talk". That's flaming and abuse. Plain and simple.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RL60LeAQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-10T05:22:32.014+0000) > > No. You weren't. > > Doesn't matter. > > Past actions fall off. If you're getting higher levels of punishment up to a permanent ban, it's because it's **too frequent**. If you keep speeding, the police don't just say "well, it's been a year since the first time he sped, so we're just going to ignore that". The only way past behavior gets forgiven is if you stop that behavior. > > Insulting and harassing teammates is not "shit talking", it's abuse. Shit talking is things like "lol nice flash", calling someone's computer a toaster, poking fun at people who fuck up (in a **joking** way, not an insulting/rude way), etc. > > Neither the amount of money you spend, nor your age, matters. > > Riot tried this. They even tried **unbanning** people. Twice. Over 95% of players given another chance after a permanent ban either remained toxic in chat and were re-banned quickly (meaning they just ruined more games before getting banned again), or they resorted to trolling/griefing (meaning they just ruined more games.... you get the idea). So no, Riot isn't going to make an exception for you because then they'd have to do that for everyone, and that increases toxicity in games. > > No, you're simply being asked to not be an asshole to others. That's not just preschool, that's life. > > Why? If you buy a ticket to a sporting event and are ejected for violating the rules of that stadium, do they refund your ticket? Nope. If you buy a subscription to, say, a streaming TV channel, with the stipulation it's for personal use, and are kicked off it and banned because you were using it at your business (commercially), do you think you get a refund? Nope. > > You agreed to terms as part of your purchase. You broke those terms. > > They didn't take it. You gave them it. > > Your logs and the fact you are acting this way after multiple warnings says differently. > > That's your right. Riot has the right to set rules that you can't do that, and if you want to violate them, you can. Riot has the right to enforce their rules and to prohibit you from using their services. > > They are subject to the same rules you are. > > There's a hell of a lot more than 2 insults. Let me point out all parts of your log that are toxic: > > Hell, that doesn't even include post game. And this is over half your log. Flaming people for their scores, continually harassing them for mistakes, that's not "trash talk". That's flaming and abuse. Plain and simple. My only complaint with the current ban system is it pretty much only picks up shit talkers. It's annoying, but rarely doesn't effect the win or loss of a solo q game. I wish they would crack down on the griefing/afk rates more
: The punishment process for that simply takes longer because it is harder to automate. There are bans for intentionally feeding, griefing, etc. Also - 42% is an extremely high amount. Either it is a super low sample size or there is some other variable that isn't accounted for... or it is false information. 42% AFK rate is roughly 700% higher than the average AFK rate for your level which is roughly 6% according to leagueofgraphs.
> [{quoted}](name=Kuthillick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aPhKoyRF,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-11-11T04:39:10.889+0000) > > The punishment process for that simply takes longer because it is harder to automate. There are bans for intentionally feeding, griefing, etc. Also - 42% is an extremely high amount. Either it is a super low sample size or there is some other variable that isn't accounted for... or it is false information. 42% AFK rate is roughly 700% higher than the average AFK rate for your level which is roughly 6% according to leagueofgraphs. maybe not automate it then? Or dump a lottt more money into fixing it because they have other competitive mmo games on the way and griefing is only going to be worse with team kills lol. Sample size is 200 games give or take for this season. Then again, there are a lot of DC problems this season that could add into it
: Leaverbuster is a joke
As long as she didn't type anything negative, it'll likely never be picked up, especially in an ARAM game. Once you're in high elo, the automated system notices int and afk a lot more, but basically means 99% of the community is screwed over
rujitra (NA)
: So.... because it's easier for police to catch you speeding than for them to catch a serial killer.... they should stop doing what's super easy. Nope. That's not how it works. Scrapping chat punishments would only increase toxicity **more**. I'd also **love** to see your **ACTUAL** statistics showing that "grief/afk/and general toxicity has increased on league".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:16:31.244+0000) > > So.... because it's easier for police to catch you speeding than for them to catch a serial killer.... they should stop doing what's super easy. > > Nope. That's not how it works. Scrapping chat punishments would only increase toxicity **more**. I'd also **love** to see your **ACTUAL** statistics showing that "grief/afk/and general toxicity has increased on league". Not exactly the case though, because the Cop doesn't realize that the person speeding is speeding to get home quickly or that for instance, the serial killer is chasing them, the serial killer in this case being the dude that says ping me one more time or I afk, they got baron gg(afks), obvious soft ints etc. The fact that the boards are filled with upvoted griefing cases are your statistics. Just using my own games, I had 11 plat promos with a 54% afk rate in them, and that's doing 5*10 so it's likely much higher
: ....sooooo no actual proof?
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:23:07.157+0000) > > ....sooooo no actual proof? just spend time on the boards, really not that uncommon. Not about to shift through what is there.
: Riot has repeatedly said that they do not want to create a prisoner's island for these types of people. Negative behavior can also wear down or tilt players that are negative as well. It doesn't make it better simply because they are only effecting other negative players at that point.
> [{quoted}](name=Kuthillick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aPhKoyRF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:20:37.708+0000) > > Riot has repeatedly said that they do not want to create a prisoner's island for these types of people. Negative behavior can also wear down or tilt players that are negative as well. It doesn't make it better simply because they are only effecting other negative players at that point. meanwhile, they let griefers and rage quits off the hook and think that it doesn't wear down players trying to climb. 42% afk rate in my ranked games this season. Pretty much just given up on Riot
rujitra (NA)
: That's nonspecific at all. While it's certainly possible I missed a thread, I haven't seen a single thread in the past weeks that has been an incorrect punishment. Your **opinion** as to it being a "bad" rule set does **not** mean that it has changed, nor that it is "unreliable".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:08:58.497+0000) > > That's nonspecific at all. > > While it's certainly possible I missed a thread, I haven't seen a single thread in the past weeks that has been an incorrect punishment. Your **opinion** as to it being a "bad" rule set does **not** mean that it has changed, nor that it is "unreliable". The forums are filled to the brim these days of people literally running it down and still playing, even after getting bumped on the boards. The system just needs to be scrapped and remade. It worked for a bit, but there's a reason grief/afk/and general toxicity has increased on league. Can't wait to see what project A will be like unless they remove team damage
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:56:47.321+0000) > > Could happen, automated system is a relatively unreliable lately. i have seen no evidence of this, at all. Do you have any links?
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T03:02:53.008+0000) > > i have seen no evidence of this, at all. Do you have any links? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/ There's been a lot of stories lately. I think Riot had recently upped the Blitz Bot's sensitivity. Wish they'd do the same with griefers tho
: Ryze in high elo has no counterplay
Ryze will always be a solid champion in the same mannerism that Ekko, Ez, Jax, Yas,and a few others are. Some champs are inherently on the more perfect side of the champ pool. Only thing you can do is either play it, ban it, or learn to beat it. Again, this isn't a solution, just an observation to league itself.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T01:58:58.651+0000) > > I have NEVER been banned prior for the exact same reasons. I have always used the full length word when requesting to report a player because the game is meant for a mature audience. If you, a teenager, are scared of these words, then there is the issue of your school system failing you and probably shouldn't be playing online regardless. Again, you make 0 sense as it was my first ban in 10 years. Please get off your high horse, being a boot licker for a broken system isn't heroic. If you lack the ability to have a respectable conversation on a board about a video game then it only confirms the fact your ban was deserved. Obviously if you have received a ban 10 years into playing this game something about you has changed. Recognize what that is and correct it. If you want to participate in this community or any community for that matter you are required to be respectful if you used that kind of language at a big school you would see a suspension Get with the times dude and learn to control your anger or your anger will dictate the outcome of your life.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:49:00.081+0000) > > If you lack the ability to have a respectable conversation on a board about a video game then it only confirms the fact your ban was deserved. > > Obviously if you have received a ban 10 years into playing this game something about you has changed. Recognize what that is and correct it. > > If you want to participate in this community or any community for that matter you are required to be respectful if you used that kind of language at a big school you would see a suspension > > Get with the times dude and learn to control your anger or your anger will dictate the outcome of your life. The only thing that has changed in 10 years is the Riot staff apparently. Again, if someone called me the n word in the past and I said report so and so for saying n word, they would get banned, not me. It's like just a cranked up version of the blitz bot these days and due to legal fire, Riot is too worried to change things drastically. No one would suspend you for that language, especially at a college or graduate school as it would be seen as censorship. The only time it would be inappropriate would be calling it towards another person or with derogatory manner.
: Aram is unplayable
They obviously didn't run it down, it CLEARLY looks like they're bad players and that the automated system is flawless. You're wrong bud, congrats for being so good at the game
: smells kinda fishy... can you post the complete, unedited chat logs that are provided when you try to log in? if this _actually_ was your first offense then you should probably make a support ticket
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VA4dAEBw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-11T02:53:53.253+0000) > > smells kinda fishy... > > can you post the complete, unedited chat logs that are provided when you try to log in? > > if this _actually_ was your first offense then you should probably make a support ticket Could happen, automated system is a relatively unreliable lately. I had a similar error where the support pretty much said if I really cared about not getting punished, I wouldn't have ever said anything back
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T09:31:27.041+0000) > > how is it hate speech when there was no direction, promotion, or supporting of? Also, it is very clear I was not aware of that, or I would not have used such language. Again, this is almost 10 year old account, this had never been issue prior If your account is 10 years old then you have had more than enough time to learn the rules of the game. There is no context in which hate speech would be accepted and beyond that non offensive. Your account ban is justified adjust your toxicity or you will receive another one.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T10:03:27.474+0000) > > If your account is 10 years old then you have had more than enough time to learn the rules of the game. > > There is no context in which hate speech would be accepted and beyond that non offensive. > > Your account ban is justified adjust your toxicity or you will receive another one. I have NEVER been banned prior for the exact same reasons. I have always used the full length word when requesting to report a player because the game is meant for a mature audience. If you, a teenager, are scared of these words, then there is the issue of your school system failing you and probably shouldn't be playing online regardless. Again, you make 0 sense as it was my first ban in 10 years. Please get off your high horse, being a boot licker for a broken system isn't heroic.
Tele II (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CapnSwing,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FmmU9uVv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T09:57:22.706+0000) > > Entire riot reporting system summed up in one sentence! and one which is getting flagged down too! Of course it is getting flagged down. Youve never seen an inter posting about their ban on the forums here? I have. Therefore hes giving false information, which will of course be downvoted. No one likes people giving false information that could result in ruined games for other players, and a false sense of security that could result in bans for the person taking that information as fact. Its the epitome of a post that should be downvoted.
> [{quoted}](name=Tele II,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FmmU9uVv,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T23:16:14.983+0000) > > Of course it is getting flagged down. Youve never seen an inter posting about their ban on the forums here? I have. Therefore hes giving false information, which will of course be downvoted. No one likes people giving false information that could result in ruined games for other players, and a false sense of security that could result in bans for the person taking that information as fact. Its the epitome of a post that should be downvoted. it isn't false though? The system can't tell the difference between a guy who is bad and a guy who is trolling. It's one of the reasons why ever since the tribunal was disbanded, griefing rates in league have sky rocketed.
: Eh, both inting and afk can result in punishments. There is just more benefit of doubt that someone isn't being a jackass. Chance that the person is just bad or something happened to cause d/c. Typing is a lot easier to flag so results in more frequent action. Also, if you inting/afk is your solution to being toxic in a team game; maybe you(not necessarily you for clarity sake) should stick to single player games.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FmmU9uVv,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-11-08T19:21:55.631+0000) > > Eh, both inting and afk can result in punishments. There is just more benefit of doubt that someone isn't being a jackass. Chance that the person is just bad or something happened to cause d/c. Typing is a lot easier to flag so results in more frequent action. > > Also, if you inting/afk is your solution to being toxic in a team game; maybe you(not necessarily you for clarity sake) should stick to single player games. true, but that's why the automatic system so bad. It looks at a guy who is 0/15 20 games in a row and says damn, that dude must really suck, least he didn't say the I,S,F,A,R,N,F, D,H word lol
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T08:07:20.456+0000) > > v. Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot Games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable; > > No, as transmission is sending a message, I was not trying to send a racially or homopibically charged message and communication is the spreading of beliefs. I am not trying to spread racially or homophibically charged beliefs, would be a little ironic as a person of my status That is a lot of words for a simple yes. Yes you used hate speech in chat well aware of the ramifications of those actions. Now you are reaping the ramifications.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T09:07:45.767+0000) > > That is a lot of words for a simple yes. > > Yes you used hate speech in chat well aware of the ramifications of those actions. > > Now you are reaping the ramifications. how is it hate speech when there was no direction, promotion, or supporting of? Also, it is very clear I was not aware of that, or I would not have used such language. Again, this is almost 10 year old account, this had never been issue prior
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T03:58:27.681+0000) > > No, hate speech implies it was directed towards someone, at something, or for promoting something > "abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." Did you say one of the words classified as hate speech under riots terms and conditions.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T05:59:22.077+0000) > > Did you say one of the words classified as hate speech under riots terms and conditions. v. Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot Games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable; No, as transmission is sending a message, I was not trying to send a racially or homopibically charged message and communication is the spreading of beliefs. I am not trying to spread racially or homophibically charged beliefs, would be a little ironic as a person of my status
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T00:01:27.872+0000) > > "due to the improper handling of a two week banned that, of course put the account on red alert" > > " was being told to be reported for calling a player the N word and I guess F word ( a lot of letter words these days unless you want a 2 week), so I said, yo I'm not calling this guy XXXXX or XXXXXX" > > I was given a two week for asking to report a player for false claims and name calling by copy pasting what he typed largely. Please review the article. I understand how the ban system works So you did use hate speech?
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T01:41:47.517+0000) > > So you did use hate speech? No, hate speech implies it was directed towards someone, at something, or for promoting something "abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation."
: Permanent Bans and how to avoid it
Basically, if you're a toxic person, only do it through rage quits and inting and nothing will ever happen. If you type, you're donezos
: Melee adc's like {{champion:23}} {{champion:11}}{{champion:157}} will always be a balance problem in the game. When an adc gets ahead they are liable to get one shot, have almost no CC, and have no real sustain. When those three get ahead, well, they suck early right? By the way we are getting another one in 2020.
> [{quoted}](name=only luciano,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MmpkQZGj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-07T20:31:15.537+0000) > > Melee adc's like {{champion:23}} {{champion:11}}{{champion:157}} will always be a balance problem in the game. When an adc gets ahead they are liable to get one shot, have almost no CC, and have no real sustain. When those three get ahead, well, they suck early right? > > > By the way we are getting another one in 2020. I would say out of those three, trynd is relatively easy to beat. If he's able to wreck freely, there is either team composition error or massive buff to him. Unlike Yas and Yi, he lacks the ability to negate abilities. He's also much easier to contest in lane whereas yi has jungle hiding advantage and yas has many dashes and quick shield regen. I do agree that another in 2020 might feel excessive though
: Nice of you to let us know
Hm, the Riot support lately feels very strange. Many of the responses I receive are similar to this and there seems to be disconnect between Riot and Customers lately
: I did but they still haven't unlock it
> [{quoted}](name=dGaEiAlvin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=W8EETE9p,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-08T00:26:25.402+0000) > > I did but they still haven't unlock it Sometimes tickets can take some time to look into. Just be patient and understanding. Do not bump your ticket or it will push it further down the list
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=00000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T23:57:55.353+0000) > > It's taking me a bit, there's a lot of it and I'm not really tech savvy. Just because I play league doesn't mean I am proficient at this. It might be easier to just take a picture of such and upload the pictures. I also don't see an attach file button on here. > > " You followed it up by actually using the word in question, and a homophobic slur, so that penalty was placed correctly. You may not agree with that ruling, but we here on the support team don't make these rules nor can we change them, we just enforce and explain them." > > "I understand that you may not have been meaning anything malicious by it when you were using, but we don't want wordsl ike that used regardless of the circumstances. We also take the reporting system very seriously and it is not intended to be used as a joke or in jest, so if a report was placed on your account for the use of extreme language, and you did use that language in a match, any penalty placed as a result would have been placed correctly. That isn't something we'll be able to overturn from here on the support team but if you believe our systems are too harsh in that regard I encourage you to start a broader discussion on the Boards." > > If those words are truly so offensive, then they could easily be removed from the game, or even delete the entire phrase and have it give you a warning notification in orange text par say. Obviously, calling someone such, making fun of such, or anything along those lines are bad, but just typing it out to have a player reported? Idk, maybe things are different in the West half of the US, but many mandatory school books and such still use the words to emphasize the seriousness of their meaning and so that they're not forgotten. Obviously this isn't an ethics or lit class. Complete censorship of those words, if anything, are considered racist and homophobic in my state as it means you are belittling the history behind it. Just seems very outdated and backwards. Obviously they didn't say it as directly to me, but even implying that I deserve the two week like that for typing it out implies the same meaning as saying it. Highly offensive, especially as a person of color. Well, a copy paste is fine too, but many people find screenshots easier which is why I suggested that - sorry for the confusion. So, let's go through what they told you: They told you that the rules are that word is not appropriate, at all, ever, and explained that they don't set the rules but only enforce/explain them. They further explained that they do not want words like that used at all - and they explained that they don't take reports lightly but verify that you "did use that language" before they issue the punishment. They said that they cannot overturn the punishment as it is correctly placed. Sure, the words could be removed altogether - but that would simply push people to using other words to replace them, and this vicious cycle happens. It's much easier to just punish people who think that sort of language is okay. You are free to believe that the rules are too harsh, but they are not going to be changed anytime soon as the vast majority of the League community does not think those words are ever acceptable in the context of a video game - no matter if you're "defending" yourself or not. Lastly, it's completely a valid opinion that those words do have purpose - as you say, history textbooks. However, those words do not have any purpose whatsoever in League of Legends, hence why they are not allowed. You've made lots of accusations that the support handled this improperly, but from the two snippets you provided of their responses, it looks like they handled this completely correctly and professionally.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T00:02:55.211+0000) > > Well, a copy paste is fine too, but many people find screenshots easier which is why I suggested that - sorry for the confusion. > > So, let's go through what they told you: They told you that the rules are that word is not appropriate, at all, ever, and explained that they don't set the rules but only enforce/explain them. > > They further explained that they do not want words like that used at all - and they explained that they don't take reports lightly but verify that you "did use that language" before they issue the punishment. They said that they cannot overturn the punishment as it is correctly placed. > > Sure, the words could be removed altogether - but that would simply push people to using other words to replace them, and this vicious cycle happens. It's much easier to just punish people who think that sort of language is okay. You are free to believe that the rules are too harsh, but they are not going to be changed anytime soon as the vast majority of the League community does not think those words are ever acceptable in the context of a video game - no matter if you're "defending" yourself or not. > > Lastly, it's completely a valid opinion that those words do have purpose - as you say, history textbooks. However, those words do not have any purpose whatsoever in League of Legends, hence why they are not allowed. > > You've made lots of accusations that the support handled this improperly, but from the two snippets you provided of their responses, it looks like they handled this completely correctly and professionally. That's all they are are words, until given a negative connotation. It really isn't that hard to remove them as well, any MMO I've played before bans any and all variation of it. With the technology has, it wouldn't be difficult to do so either, especially with how sensitive the Blitzcrank bot is. Regardless and with that in mind, it would be much more reasonable to say, we understand your logic behind this, but please refrain from using this again, not an instantaneous 2 week for such. It disconnects the players from the game, isolates them, and makes them lose faith in the system, especially when they've been a loyal customer going on 10 years. They might have handled correctly from the books, but if that is professionally, then the service industry is becoming a place that is not friendly towards its users. I have submitted a report, and whether it was the right or wrong way to handle things, of course there is more than just those( I wanted to get to the point and be blunt), then at least it should draw some attention to how things could be handled better, especially if they want their customers to feel like they are appreciated.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-07T20:01:09.142+0000) > > I did not have a single punishment until the initial 2 week. An initial 2 week puts your account at ban at the first report made against your until the warning wears off. Not sure what the warning is, I have read it is 3-4 months IRL time, as I had a few hundred games already That’s not possible unless you used hate speech.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1kAs52A3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T23:53:59.393+0000) > > That’s not possible unless you used hate speech. "due to the improper handling of a two week banned that, of course put the account on red alert" " was being told to be reported for calling a player the N word and I guess F word ( a lot of letter words these days unless you want a 2 week), so I said, yo I'm not calling this guy XXXXX or XXXXXX" I was given a two week for asking to report a player for false claims and name calling by copy pasting what he typed largely. Please review the article. I understand how the ban system works
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