Kshaway (NA)
: This happens in many other ways. Specially when junglers do raptors. I have seen Vi E, Xin’s W, Shaco Q, letting me play on the correct side and stay safe from ganks. It seems some spells are coded to show through and have some sort of VFX indicator inside the FOW. (Particular AOE)I don’t know if it’s intentional but it has been around for years.
> [{quoted}](name=Kshaway,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=c5lefKIm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-12T23:27:01.732+0000) > > This happens in many other ways. Specially when junglers do raptors. I have seen Vi E, Xin’s W, Shaco Q, letting me play on the correct side and stay safe from ganks. It seems some spells are coded to show through and have some sort of VFX indicator inside the FOW. (Particular AOE)I don’t know if it’s intentional but it has been around for years. Hydra passive and actives are visible too
: I should have put that /s at the end it seems.
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9NcdAKdk,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-10T04:57:24.091+0000) > > I should have put that /s at the end it seems. I didnt notice you were answering to the other sarcasm comment LOL. My bad, i somehow thought it was a standalone comment.
: Urgot's R will execute the target once the reeling in started, as long as he doesn't die during the process. When Ezreal jumps with his E, he shoots a bolt of energy at a nearby target. So many inconsistencies!!!
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9NcdAKdk,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-10T02:11:33.062+0000) > > Urgot's R will execute the target once the reeling in started, as long as he doesn't die during the process. > When Ezreal jumps with his E, he shoots a bolt of energy at a nearby target. > > So many inconsistencies!!! i mean, all those things are for the sake of balancing of the game... Did you also want cinematics to be about champs hitting minions and simply trading in lane? Do you think Riven animation cancels irl too?
Uraraka (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Weexazys,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HowHPruA,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-27T04:16:54.709+0000) > > no one gets stuck in low elo if they dont deserve it tho. i was a bronze player before and i learned the game and climbed through, im now at gold/plat with a positive winrate, its rough in the start but if you deserve a better rank youll eventually get it. I may know more things, be more skilled than player X with 1000 games and 3+ ranks above me-but because I play only 200 games I can get stuck in lower rank. One can get stuck in low elo due to matching and personally I hit Silver 1 100LP by ~75 games and took ~125 additional games , 5 promos in total to reach Gold 4 0LP. I don't disagree with you on learning will lead to climbing, but matchmaking forces players to play more games to climb and someone who may not have time to grind won't climb even if they deserve it.
> [{quoted}](name=Uraraka,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HowHPruA,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-27T07:58:50.603+0000) > > I may know more things, be more skilled than player X with 1000 games and 3+ ranks above me-but because I play only 200 games I can get stuck in lower rank. One can get stuck in low elo due to matching and personally I hit Silver 1 100LP by ~75 games and took ~125 additional games , 5 promos in total to reach Gold 4 0LP. I don't disagree with you on learning will lead to climbing, but matchmaking forces players to play more games to climb and someone who may not have time to grind won't climb even if they deserve it. Yeah, but thats with every game and everything in life, you gotta put time into something you wanna get better at, no matter how much you know about the book its expereince/practice that are gonna make the most difference. Although putting only time into it wont also work, ive seen/have many friends that are stuck in bronze and silver and play twice as much as i do. I climbed all the way trough only putting in 3 to 4 games a day with some occasional weekends here and there where i was able to play for the whole/half weekend. I think a good fix would be removing promos between divisions and only keeping the promos between ranks. Theres not much difference between a Silver 1 and a Silver 2 players, so i dont really understand why you'd need promos to get through, all it does is put more stress/RNG Team Difference between both.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Weexazys,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HowHPruA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-21T02:25:51.643+0000) > > If you dodge almost every game you get, you wont practically play the game. Why put new accounts 3 ranks above the lowest rank? Smurfs? Cant they play 2/3 items in Bronze/Silver elo before getting to Gold? New players aren't put in most of the games at Gold 1 or high gold, but in Gold 4 or high silver, but I agree with you. Because it is better for newer players to climb, matching puts them near average mmr(which is usually around Silver 1-2, may vary based on server). It is good for everyone if these fresh accounts are put in low silver/high bronze imo, but not everyone will accept it because it may lengthen climbing time for new players and has more chances of getting them stuck in elo below their actual rank due to bad matchmaking.
> [{quoted}](name=Uraraka,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HowHPruA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-24T09:30:19.823+0000) > > New players aren't put in most of the games at Gold 1 or high gold, but in Gold 4 or high silver, but I agree with you. Because it is better for newer players to climb, matching puts them near average mmr(which is usually around Silver 1-2, may vary based on server). It is good for everyone if these fresh accounts are put in low silver/high bronze imo, but not everyone will accept it because it may lengthen climbing time for new players and has more chances of getting them stuck in elo below their actual rank due to bad matchmaking. no one gets stuck in low elo if they dont deserve it tho. i was a bronze player before and i learned the game and climbed through, im now at gold/plat with a positive winrate, its rough in the start but if you deserve a better rank youll eventually get it.
: Even when you play to what you roll, if you don't get the correct items and champions, you are screwed. Also, I have seen people spam one composition, and they still maintain an average win ratio. It's all about rng. When I win, it's because I had good rng. When I lose, it's because I had bad rng (sometimes I do make mistakes), and that's just how it is. Those Challenger players, I watch them play games. I don't see them being unable to hit their strong units, I'm just saying. And they can never explain how they win more when people ask, and they never do anything special. Can you explain what Challenger players do well that lower elo people cannot? Also, it's easier to climb with a new account because you can inflate your mmr with a bunch of wins or top 4 against newer players.
> [{quoted}](name=Toolmaker,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=8zRLtQ9R,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-24T15:47:59.775+0000) > > Even when you play to what you roll, if you don't get the correct items and champions, you are screwed. > > Also, I have seen people spam one composition, and they still maintain an average win ratio. > > It's all about rng. When I win, it's because I had good rng. When I lose, it's because I had bad rng (sometimes I do make mistakes), and that's just how it is. > > Those Challenger players, I watch them play games. I don't see them being unable to hit their strong units, I'm just saying. And they can never explain how they win more when people ask, and they never do anything special. Can you explain what Challenger players do well that lower elo people cannot? > > Also, it's easier to climb with a new account because you can inflate your mmr with a bunch of wins or top 4 against newer players. Im new to TFT but i noticed that every time i try to build a comp around what im getting/what others arent getting i lose. The only games i roll, and i can prove with screenshots if needed, were the ones where i just hyperrolled and slapped wtv 3 stars and items i got in the playing field. OFC i still looked to get some synergy but its not that hard to do it if you just hyperroll wtv 1 stars you get.
: Swain only. LB was still working behind the scheme pulling the strings, Vladimir was still hiding out of Noxian sight, Darius and Draven were too young to go to that war back then. Sion was too dead to even care about that ware cause his reincarnation was recent? One thing is certain tho, a relative to the new champion. Sett's father, and it was during THAT Noxian invasion when he had met up with Sett's Vastayan mother.
> [{quoted}](name=Salvaged Vlada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=3M3iYPZE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-24T13:35:43.919+0000) > > Swain only. > > LB was still working behind the scheme pulling the strings, Vladimir was still hiding out of Noxian sight, Darius and Draven were too young to go to that war back then. > > Sion was too dead to even care about that ware cause his reincarnation was recent? > > One thing is certain tho, a relative to the new champion. > Sett's father, and it was during THAT Noxian invasion when he had met up with Sett's Vastayan mother. I dont believe it was either Draven or Darius but theres no "too young" to go to war in Noxus. Remeber that Zed adopted Kayn after killing his whole "assassin kids" squad.
FSRER (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The King Diamond,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TUXqdilL,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-24T06:23:24.866+0000) > > Conclusion - Just delete Conq and give us Fervor or something like that. And then Mordekaiser will get replaced by Tryndamere
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TUXqdilL,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-12-24T07:19:09.448+0000) > > And then Mordekaiser will get replaced by Tryndamere Tryndamere was in the game when fervor was around and he never was its strongest user or even good tbh
: > [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Gf47ufhi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-24T07:15:29.648+0000) > > I'd honestly love jungle turrets. Give me some space to farm peacefully and not get cheesed, and keep the enemy from farming my jungle for free just because they're ahead and I can't contest them. > > Counterjungling is a valid strategy that is high-risk, high-reward, but some protection from it would be appreciated, especially in the early game. Maybe have the jungle turrets get destroyed automatically at the 14-minute mark, like plating, so once the early game is officially declared over, the enemy has free reign to farm whatever they can take. Just the early game would be protected. I think after your first clear the tower should go away. Like first 8 mins you get protection somehow in your jungle. That doesn't sound too bad
> [{quoted}](name=RyzeRework,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Gf47ufhi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-24T10:10:18.302+0000) > > I think after your first clear the tower should go away. Like first 8 mins you get protection somehow in your jungle. That doesn't sound too bad Thats why i loved the old wolves smite buff, that gave you vision of your jungle, after it was removed was when i quit jungle.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: **Always** check teammates profiles during champ select and dodge such games.
> [{quoted}](name=Uraraka,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HowHPruA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-20T17:41:42.366+0000) > > **Always** check teammates profiles during champ select and dodge such games. If you dodge almost every game you get, you wont practically play the game. Why put new accounts 3 ranks above the lowest rank? Smurfs? Cant they play 2/3 items in Bronze/Silver elo before getting to Gold?
Hotarµ (NA)
: This is false. Modifying the game in any way (custom champion skins, map skins, HUD skins, etc.) has always been bannable and Riot themselves have always labelled it as a "use-at-your-own-risk" action. While someone may not use custom skins to gain an advantage, they very well _could_ and Riot has to be wary of that fact.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BVehnoGX,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-12-18T16:35:55.608+0000) > > This is false. > > Modifying the game in any way (custom champion skins, map skins, HUD skins, etc.) has always been bannable and Riot themselves have always labelled it as a "use-at-your-own-risk" action. While someone may not use custom skins to gain an advantage, they very well _could_ and Riot has to be wary of that fact. They used to let players do it in the past, you can find BoxBox clips streaming riven with custom skins in the past, but Riot changed it a couple years back and even restricted the files so theyre harder to access and change.
: How do you top laners deal with such one sided matchups in top?
Top lane is a lane about outsmarting your opponent, this is the THE lane where being smart about your wave management, vision control, trades etc... are the most important, you dont have a jungler to help you, you dont have a support to shield/heal you or help push/freeze the wave. Sometimes toplane isnt about getting fed and get a lot of kills but its more about getting small advantages through really small gaps that build up into a huge lead, every lane is "winnable" as long as you are able to UNDERSTAND what you are trying to get. For example I onetrick Riven my win condition against Renekton is NOT to die early since i will eventually out scale him, but giving him that single kill can completely shut down the lane for me, so you play around that, you concede some CS, you wait for trade windows where you will have advantage, maybe he used Q to clear the wave. you bait his W, maybe i will freeze the wave forcing him to be scared for my jgl etc... as long as i dont play into his condition(getting kills early) i have won the lane, even if im 10/20cs behind. LMK if you need some help with learning top, i can help you practice/recommend some videos for you to check out.
: Cancel Rift "Rivals" for NA vs EU....... or
They should make RR a youtube/twitch showdown, makes it more casual, still allows Riot to make the big bucks and keeps it interesting. EU Streamers/Youtubers vs NA Streamers/Youtubers.
: > [{quoted}](name=Waka FIocka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ERFu5ohP,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-13T04:10:43.404+0000) > > they should have scrapped him. he doesn't belong in this game > how do you lane against someone who can swap ranges, attack speeds, and abilities on the fly. > like how does a champion with 4 abilities deal with one that has 30? > the dude can even summon a turret like wut > why does riot go through with these things Its Certainly T what did you expect lol
> [{quoted}](name=metroman450,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ERFu5ohP,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-12-13T06:39:42.428+0000) > > Its Certainly T what did you expect lol Thing is, they can disaprove and aprove designs, why aprove this. why create this bullshit of a champion. They cant balance Ryze for gods sake so they add a 30 ability champ? He isnt even hard to play, it a fking AA Q R champ, the only thing "hard" about him is memorizing what everything does and comboes with...
pwc2016 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=teto god supp,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WiagzW3c,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-13T05:02:34.226+0000) > > Never been happier to be a jung main. > > Always get my role, never secondary. Dude, I just got the timer off. Queued up support/adc...GOT JUNGLE AGAIN. PLEASE JUNGLE MAINS TAKE THIS ROLE I JUST WANNA PLAY SOME SUPPORT PLZ.
> [{quoted}](name=pwc2016,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WiagzW3c,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-13T05:17:25.967+0000) > > Dude, I just got the timer off. Queued up support/adc...GOT JUNGLE AGAIN. PLEASE JUNGLE MAINS TAKE THIS ROLE I JUST WANNA PLAY SOME SUPPORT PLZ. i hate junlge and now i get autofilled jungle every time, id rather any other role even tho my otp champ also works jungle LOL, ITS THAT BAD
: > [{quoted}](name=Rewt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KZEz4qze,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-09T21:24:21.712+0000) > > You can instapop an ADC at least. If they misposition you can blow them up. > > Trynd on the other hand. If he gets a lead it can start 1v5 if your team doesn't have enough CC. I played against one last night. (Our top laner is still learning the game so he is being yoinked into matches with Golds and getting slaughtered when he plays with us.) So my ADC and I are like 10/1/2 and 2/2/10 respectively. The trynd was like 8/1/0. In most cases the super fed Thresh and MF should be able to clap any champ. But in this case I simply didnt have enough CC to keep the trynd off my ADC for 7 seconds. Since you have take out all his HP, Then survive the next 5 seconds of invuln, then the inevitable 1/2 his hp heal. He killed my ADC in 2 right clicks. > > There is counterplay to an ADC. You can assassinate them. there is an entire class of champions dedicated to killing them. Trynd on the other hand. "Just CC him for 7 seconds 4Head" Yes trynd is so much better and safer than adcs thats why you see him so much in pro play and his winrate is so high. Oh wait.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KZEz4qze,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-12-09T21:33:53.741+0000) > > Yes trynd is so much better and safer than adcs thats why you see him so much in pro play and his winrate is so high. > > Oh wait. I dont agree that Tyndamere should be nerfed, even tho i do hate him there is clear counterplay to him and he is only a problem when fed which we all can agree that EVERY single toplaner is, thats the point of toplane, thats why its a 1v1 lane, but youre using the wrong argument here. Tryndamere doesnt see proplay because he is THE EASIEST champion to shut down in a coordinated invironment, if you pick trynda in proplay youll have to deal with 400 armor poppys, lissandras, xayah/rakans etc... That probably wont happen in soloQ, thats why he is strong there, Tryndamere is a statcheck, skillcheck low elo stomper.
: > [{quoted}](name=Skia Asteri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tgE3U8wN,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-06T20:11:30.388+0000) > > The various hooks have an explosion that is wider than the projectile when they reach max range. Yes, I think they call it a balloon effect. When they hit max range, they get wider.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Anything that is AoE, even if it only hits one target. Bloodthirster doesnt work on abilities, so 33% effectiveness > 0% effectiveness.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dnhw7MFx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T16:28:30.493+0000) > > Anything that is AoE, even if it only hits one target. > > Bloodthirster doesnt work on abilities, so 33% effectiveness > 0% effectiveness. Plus the bleed passive on DD is way better for divers like Kayn.
: But no one ever buys the RIGHT armor item {{item:3143}} P.S. I don't see anything in that Riven's kit that actually reduces crit damage.
Wait do you actually know how Senna works??? Senna herself already does reduced crit damage due to her passive, her attack speed is also bad, she gains almost no attack speed much like Jhin. Randuins Omen is probably the worse armor item you can buy versus her as she doesnt even build crit. she builds lethality. You getting upvotes just shows how ignorant and actually BAD at this game people are here on the boards.
Comentários de Rioters
: Custom made adaptive items but that sounds like too much work and riot doesnt like to do work.
: Yeah, ik {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
RIP my klepto pocket picks that no one expects. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Ssssh, us intellectuals who run Klepto must have the build kept a secret {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Well, at least until next season... {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: > [{quoted}](name=wolvius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KdMzEONJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-15T12:43:51.128+0000) > > The thing is if you remove collision from ally minions then people will just stand in the middle of their creeps and be invulnerable to single target skillshots. > > But yeah something should be done to fix being legit unable to move if you get caught in ally creeps, > https://youtu.be/k2NmSswAhzQ?t=61 https://youtu.be/k2NmSswAhzQ?t=150 > No one is a fan of spasming in their minions. There is a key binding to target only champions. Every single player should be using that.
: Nice try, if you Q after you dash it hits the target automatically. And her dash is a point click. And her R is very generous.
and does she have an E for every Q she throws?
Yago (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Brotha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mJsEa6Xk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-13T00:32:17.767+0000) > > Most control mages have those high impact abilities on a basic ability instead of their ultimate. Keep in mind Qiyana is more like Ekko, a utility assassin (skirmisher Assassin I believe is the term here). She doesn't have the level of burst of a TRUE ASSASSIN {{champion:131}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:238}} but compensates for it by offering utility to her team. > > It's League of Legends nothing makes sense but it works fine. {{champion:91}} Talon full rotation at level 9: Passive: 155 + 2.0 bAD Q: 135 + 1.65 bAD [Crit] W: 240 + 1.0 bAD R: 180 + 2.0 bAD **Total**: 710 + 6.65 bAD {{champion:246}} Qiyana full rotation at level 9: Passive: 94 + 1.1 bAD [Reset once] Q: 240 + 1.35 bAD [Reset once, both reduced pass through damage, neither has Wall element bonus damage] W: 16 + .4 bAD [Assuming only applies on EQ] E: 95 + .7 bAD R: 100 + 1.7 bAD + 10% Maximum Health **Total**: 545 + 5.25 bAD + 10% Maximum Health [Minimum of 48, maximum of 246] _If she hits with Wall element's bonus damage?_ 641 + 5.79 bAD + 10% Maximum Health [Minimum of 48, maximum of 246] _If both Q's hit only a single target?_ _**Perfect Total**_: 721 + 6.24 bAD + 10% Maximum Health [Minimum of 48, maximum of 246] Please tell me, in what universe does Qiyana deal less damage than a TRUE ASSASSIN?
No one said damage, they said burst = DPS, lets not forget she has skillshots btw
: Who even reads ask riot anymore?
: You can try not playing champs like {{champion:23}} which are hard countered by Ryze. You wanna see a real top lane bully, that no one can do anything against? Take {{champion:51}} with Glacial Aug and Aproach Velocity top. As long as you can avoid jungle ganks its a free first blood and first tower.
The problem is not being a lane bully lmao... {{champion:58}} exists and hes balanced, the problem is when your lane bully scales like {{champion:13}} . something {{champion:51}} doesnt.
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P6oy7KNZ,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T00:31:21.074+0000) > > Even when she is animation canceling everything is clear nothing is hidden from you. Rivens numbers were adjusted due to her animation cancels so when fighting a "normal Riven" youre actually fighting a weak champion. She NEEDS those cancels to thrive and thats why Riven players are so dedicated to perfecting and learning them. It's not clear to me what happens when while riven is jumping I get stunned and get her ult thrown at me, no animations to see what is happening or when, it just gets dumped on you in a second, and it's even less clear when you try to play riven yourself and you cannot replicate what that enemy riven did leaving you wondering even more wth just happened. so in other words, she should be balanced around being normal, if she's weak without animation cancelling abuse then balance her around not having animation cancelling, it's that simple.
And just destroy he whole desing? Thats WHO she is, her kit wouldnt work without animation they tried it before, she had bonkers level of broken numbers but she was still weak because her kit just simply wouldnt work, Look at these numbers in a NON damage meta meaning she had on of the highest numbers at the time BY FAR and she was still getting buffed: September 20th Hotfix Stats Attack speed per level increased to 3.5% from 2.9%. Base armor increased to 15 from 12. Broken Wings Broken Wings AD ratio increased to 70% bonus AD from 60% bonus AD. Ki Burst Ki Burst Cast time reduced to 0.25 seconds from 0.5. Valor Valor Base shield strength increased to 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 from 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160. Cooldown reduced to 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 seconds from 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 / 7. Wind Slash Wind Slash Cast time reduced to 0.25 seconds from 0.5. Projectile speed increased to 2200 from 2000.
: Iwilldom and hash were talking about them on their streams
So no high elo players?
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P6oy7KNZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-06T02:17:20.533+0000) > > Some champions need it as a part of their kit, while others don't, most of the time they arent intended and Riot will decide if they want to keep it or not and rebalance the champion after. An example would be Riven who got rebalanced when her animation cancels were "discovered". > > V4.5 > Stats > Base armor increased to 19 from 15. > V4.2 > Stats > Base health regeneration reduced to 2.5 from 5. > Valor Valor > Shield strength increased to 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 / 210 from 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 / 190. > V4.1 > Stats > Base attack damage reduced to 51 from 54. > Attack damage per level increased to 3 from 2.75. > Broken Wings Broken Wings > Damage per cast changed to 10 / 30 / 50 / 70 / 90 (+ 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 / 60% AD) from 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 70% bonus AD) > Valor Valor > Shield duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2.5 > > These were the first nerfs in season 4 after she grew popular after season 3 worlds. > > You can learn more about her and why her animation cancels were allowed in her kit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9lcyDjUSec Riven being allowed to animation cancel is bs, 1 year ago riot started being all about ''clarity'' meanwhile riven is the polar opposite of that, you never know if you're fighting a normal riven making it clear to you what she is using or a animation canceling riven who dumps her entire kit on you in half a second leaving you wonder what in the actual fuck just happened.
Even when she is animation canceling everything is clear nothing is hidden from you. Rivens numbers were adjusted due to her animation cancels so when fighting a "normal Riven" youre actually fighting a weak champion. She NEEDS those cancels to thrive and thats why Riven players are so dedicated to perfecting and learning them.
: @Meddler As someone who enjoys playing Soraka, can you stop making Grievous Wounds abundant?
The problem is. For AP champions buying a morello feels like nothing because its abundant in stats, its not just a GW item. AD champions are sacrificing a build path for GW, for example as a Riven player laning vs Mundo or Vlad is detrimental because i need to buy AD and Pen to do enough damage because of stuff like {{item:3191}} and {{item:3047}} plus i need magic resist because they get to spam me all laning phase AND i need to invest 800g into {{item:3123}} because otherwise the damage i deal will serve for nothing and just be healed away...
: I think he's banned for the fact that he can flex into 4 roles and possibly even all 5 if a team wants to get crazy. So even if someone does have a strategy to shut down Panth in say, toplane, they can just flex him mid or jungle. It's not worth trying to counter him because he can escape your counter and then you are just left with a subpar pick. Easier to ban him away than deal with him flexing into any role to escape a bad matchup. But yeah this is still pretty wack, nerf panth plz
It not only for the flex potential by itself. You can just look at Pantheons kit and realize that he is indeed a super strong competitive champion. Long range poke, point and click CC, waveclear, strong early game, tanky, big roaming potencial with a global ultimate, just this ultimate alone breaks the "TP advantage" side of competitive. Then you look at his numbers and this guys Q can deal 400dmg with only a black cleaver...
musixxal (EUW)
: animation cancelling?
Some champions need it as a part of their kit, while others don't, most of the time they arent intended and Riot will decide if they want to keep it or not and rebalance the champion after. An example would be Riven who got rebalanced when her animation cancels were "discovered". V4.5 Stats Base armor increased to 19 from 15. V4.2 Stats Base health regeneration reduced to 2.5 from 5. Valor Valor Shield strength increased to 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 / 210 from 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 / 190. V4.1 Stats Base attack damage reduced to 51 from 54. Attack damage per level increased to 3 from 2.75. Broken Wings Broken Wings Damage per cast changed to 10 / 30 / 50 / 70 / 90 (+ 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 / 60% AD) from 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 70% bonus AD) Valor Valor Shield duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2.5 These were the first nerfs in season 4 after she grew popular after season 3 worlds. You can learn more about her and why her animation cancels were allowed in her kit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9lcyDjUSec
: I'm not making excuses I'm stating facts, and before you go throwing disparities you're in my elo.
You didnt state any fact and i did not throw anything, i dont really care about elo, i was simply using an example that is commonly posted here on the boards to confirm what i had just explained to you.
: .................................................................Suggested top laner anyone?
Champions that remain fun even if you spam them: {{champion:92}} Very mobile, flexible, good split and teamfights, easy to pick up, but does take time and commitment to learn CORRECTLY. Biggest con would be the current itemization for her is very weird/punishing for inexperienced players and has a hard time with ranged matchups. {{champion:114}} Very fun and fast paced, splitpusher, easy to pick up, very good at punishing bad players, good at dealing with tanks. Has kind of a hard time against other bruisers in the early game but has a lot of room to outplay. {{champion:164}} Sets up ganks really easily, mobile, tanky with good teamfighting, mainly focused on punishing other teams carries or misplaced targets, has a ton of hard matchups top so might not be the best choise. {{champion:58}} The King of top lane, playing Renek will teach you trading patterns, understanding power spikes, wave management, tower dives. Very good sustain, one of the strongest early games and a decent late game. Can carry games easily in low elo because players dont respect your all in potencial. {{champion:39}} Hypermobile with tons of teamfight potencial, can solo carry games on her own if gets fed, and can always comeback into the game once she gets 2-3 items. Good sustain, tanky, her passive and Q resets make her very fun to play as. {{champion:84}} Huge level 1 that most low elo people dont respect, has really good poke vs melee and her mobility and shroud make her very hard to gank, good learning curve. {{champion:76}} Off meta pick, very versatile builds means you can adjust to your teams needs, really good poke, roams really easily, most players dont know how to play against since its not very common to see, definately a good learning curve but really easy to pick up. Her heals, mobility make her pretty safe allowing you some room when you misposition. {{champion:107}} Another off meta pick, once again most players dont know what to do versus you, you can build squishy oneshotter or tanky oneshotter whatever you prefer, very good at roaming thus you can take your lead to other lanes. i could go on with more champions but these are my personal favorites/pocketpicks.
: I agree, which is exactly what I do. However there are posts like this every single day on the forums from other people. And I don't remember ever seeing a post praising how wonderful chat is. Seems a much simpler solution to just remove it entirely since it doesn't seem to bring any actual benefit to anyone. And proof of this is LCS. The top 1% of the people who play this game REFUSE to use chat. They will talk in a headset or ping, but they will not use chat unless it's to be funny in a stream.
Who will come to boards to make a post "I loved my last game, everyone was just so positive, there was not a single flamer on the game we even were friends with the entire enemy team, didnt want that game to ever end. FeelsBlessedMan"? Of course you dont see posts praising chat. If you have a good game you move on, but a bad expirience will stick to your head for a long time. This is why people make excuses that they cant climb like: "every game botlane is 0/20 by 5 minutes, our jungler is afk and top is a troller that picked nunu and snowballed his way down the drain so i cant climb". This doesnt happen every game, it will happen MAYBE once every ten games and thats still very unprobable, its just that the single time it does it sticks to your mind. No one talks about positive shit. Watch the news, its 90% negative headlines, because thats what gathers views, thats what everyone sees or talks about.
: > [{quoted}](name=Clockwork Mouse,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=s2T7f38R,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-11-04T20:55:09.044+0000) > > Honestly they should stop policing their game all together. There was nothing wrong with online games like TF2 and Halo back in the day. All you need is a mute button, that is all that was ever needed. And as for toxic gameplay, well you will keep climbing and they will fall lower, so it will eventually sort itself out. Even then, one ruins a game and he is free to keep going? Im sorry but if someone trolls in-game i cant help but feel the need to see him punished because he literally ruined my or rather 4 (or more) other players game. We dedicate precious time in this game. And the last thing we all want is to see, is ourselves not having at the very least fun.
Thats why you reprt and move on, dont let it get to your head, if that player inted it probably isnt or wont be the last time they do it, they will acumulate reports and will be banned, unless you want to work for Riot and they do give you a job in that department theres unfortunately nothing else you can do besides that.
Asifion (NA)
: League Auto-pathing [Any Rioter Game Devs Here?]
Its definitely by shortest path. You can see that by playing Taliyah and walking to midlane, the game will automatically send you in the middle of the lane instead of hugging the walls along to abuse the passive.
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iFUeAiAa,comment-id=00050001000000010000,timestamp=2019-11-05T00:46:30.852+0000) > > Thats why all HP items come with other stats to help you deal with the threat you are facing. There are HP+regen items, HP+armor, HP+MR, HP+AD, HP+AP etc... theres literally everything. Except thanks to the rampant true damage most of your resistances are being ignored. Sooooooo.
That might be true to an extent. The combination of resistance and HP definitely help you vs the damage youre taking, but it is indeed true that full on defenses are weak currently but that is mostly due to Riots latest desings that incorporate shit that a champion doesnt need in its kit.
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iFUeAiAa,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-11-04T21:10:32.837+0000) > > True damage is countered by HP, the more hp you have, the more true damage you can tank. You cannot build only hp. If you do that you are soft inting. All you are achieving by doing that is letting the enemies lifesteal even more off you. You don’t live any longer.
Thats why all HP items come with other stats to help you deal with the threat you are facing. There are HP+regen items, HP+armor, HP+MR, HP+AD, HP+AP etc... theres literally everything.
: > [{quoted}](name=p3tm4ster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sfRfvkUa,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-11-04T23:20:07.239+0000) > > I've been saying for years that they need to remove the chat system out of the game. This game has exactly 0 benefits from a chat system where the only thing that actually happens is flaming. And like you said everything that needs to be said can be said with pings. They basically have, you can disable ally and all chat. Likewise, there is a post that is at least 4 years old concerning how to disable your enter key. Lol, I mean come on now, take some damn personal responsibility. Do you need riot to come to your house and click the buttons for you?
So true. Chat is usefull dont remove it. I write everything down in my chat during a game. Summs, enemy jgl timings, ward timings, ga timings, basically everything that revolves around me abusing a timer. I dont even type it for my team, its for myself but im sure i might have helped a teammate by doing this. Afraid youll get banned because you cant control yourself? Disable chat. Simple as that. Do you think chat is usefull but you are easily triggered? Mute the dude thats flaming. Its literally 2 clicks away TAB + leftclick on the mute icon.
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iFUeAiAa,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-11-04T21:10:32.837+0000) > > True damage is countered by HP, the more hp you have, the more true damage you can tank. {{champion:114}}{{champion:67}} {{champion:86}}
Dont get close to Garen?, gets pretty much outscaled by every champion in the game? Vayne and Fiora are designed to deal with tanks, but both have very straight forward weaknesses, vayne is weak early specially in this early game meta and Fiora has a lot of bad matchups toplane plus she offers close to nothing in team fights?
: > [{quoted}](name=Bârd,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iFUeAiAa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-04T19:33:32.958+0000) > > True stealth is dumb. Just have a stealth system and stick with it. This is why they *did* remove obscured. > > True damage is fine. You can't beat it through stacking stats, and there's nothing wrong with that. You can’t beat it by stacking stats like you can every other stat. That’s a problem. The issue is, there is nothing that counters true damage, which is in itself a problem.
True damage is countered by HP, the more hp you have, the more true damage you can tank.
: Challenger in bronze vids
Youre kinda missing the point here... If a bronzie buys a high elo account he isnt being banned because he is "reverse smurfing"? He is being banned because he bought an account, which is against Riots ToS. If a Challenger creates a fresh account, it is HIS account, he didnt buy it anywhere, so he is not banned. Plus he needs to start somewhere when playing Ranked for the first matches, once he starts winning the account will have a way to high MMR and the player willl start skipping divisions until their rank and MMR are both similar.
Horızen (NA)
: Why does everyone think compensation buffs are necessary?
Im going to explain why SOMETIMES compensation buffs/nerfs are needed. For example Riven some time ago got some nerfs and powershifts, this was mainly due to conqueror, she was healing too much while doing too much damage plus conqueror giving free true damage would make it so that one of her main weaknesses, armor, wasnt that effective. Riot knew that this was mainly due to conqueror but they decided to mess with Riven instead. Patch V9.10 Broken Wings (Q) Cooldown reduced to 12 / 11.5 / 11 / 10.5 / 10 seconds from 13 at all ranks. Valor (E) Cooldown increased to 14 / 13 / 12 / 11 / 10 seconds from 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6. So they nerfed her E cooldown by 4 seconds in order to make her less durable giving her opponents a bigger window for her to be punished. Of course they knew that Riven herself didnt need this nerf (as many champions winrates rose with the arrival of conqueror) so they compensated her E nerfs with some buffs to her Q, lowering the cooldown. Why did conqueror by itself cause this to Riven? Well, before conqueror Rivens main keystones were Spellbook and Electrocute, Spellbook rewards Riven with no damage so she was played more passively and only looked for short trades that the enemy couldnt answer to and Electrocute made her be played more as an assassin, only trade when elec is up with a short trade, build lethality and be a glass canon for your team blowing 1-2 people (preferably carries) before you die. With the introduction of conqueror Riven changed to a more all-in bruiser type champion, she stacks conq incredibly fast and benefits a lot from the healing and true damage since she only strictly deals physical damage and has no built in sustain in her kit. Plus conqueror made it so you still had damage even when going for Black Cleaver that only builds off of mostly HP items {{item:3067}} and {{item:3044}} . This changed Rivens playstyle from being a very squishy glass canon to a more tanky mobile sustain fighter. So Riven was then adjusted accordingly again when Conqueror was nerfed. V9.19 Broken Wings (Q) Cooldown increased to 13 seconds from 12. Valor (E) Cooldown reduced to 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 seconds from 14 / 13 / 12 / 11 / 10. Sometimes a single change to the game through items, keystones or summoners can make a big change in a champions PARTICULAR ability, in this case the healing from conqueror made it so that Riven wasnt as punished during fights when her E was down. So making her E weaker and shifting the power to another ability takes care of the business without completely gutting the champion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kovorix,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P5TYZHs8,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-03T18:29:01.233+0000) > > Just give something to punish tp players like the Promote summoner which got removed. When your enemy needs to tp and has it on cooldown you punish him with stronger pushing power. Except the game really doesn't need stronger pushing power, as a dirty splitpusher I can tell you we don't need more to make it viable, it's already op
Most people here wont understand that. Everyone in lower elos(that doesnt care to learn the game) will tell you that 5v5 mid is the way to go and if youre not with your team than youre trolling.
YambrinZ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=JayceAccount40,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTJjjgtb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-03T21:19:59.260+0000) > > If you wanna know the truth, Riot owns boosting/account selling websites and they make profit from that. Yes, also why they turned a blind eye to the streamers always magically having level 30 accounts to "bronze to challenger" climb.
I mean, you can level accounts pretty fast... thats the main reason you can find them for like less than 5 bucks... Sure some streamers might buy them, but with the amount of free time they have its actually really easy to level up fresh accounts.
PzyXo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5teEQrzd,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-02T17:39:31.832+0000) > > So adcs dont have skillshots? {{champion:202}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:42}} ? Jhin's skillshots are hard Ezreal these days needs to just hit his W and E and he's fine Jinx's skillshots ez cait's skillshots ezier Lucian's skillshots ez asf Kai'Sa doesn't even need her skillshot Sivir's skillshot ez to land Quinn too Kog'Maw's skillshots hard to land Varus's skillshots are hard too Xayah ez asf Ashe easier than lucian Kalista is hard Corki is meh So fix ur fucking comment
> [{quoted}](name=PzyXo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5teEQrzd,comment-id=00040000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-02T19:25:31.066+0000) > > Jhin's skillshots are hard > Ezreal these days needs to just hit his W and E and he's fine > Jinx's skillshots ez > cait's skillshots ezier > Lucian's skillshots ez asf > Kai'Sa doesn't even need her skillshot > Sivir's skillshot ez to land > Quinn too > Kog'Maw's skillshots hard to land > Varus's skillshots are hard too > Xayah ez asf > Ashe easier than lucian > Kalista is hard > Corki is meh > > So fix ur fucking comment Yes because Lees Q is super hard to hit... Nice comment on Ezreal btw his E W are really his main damage.
: remove execute and they can buff him as much as they want in anyway -shrugs-
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal Hushtail,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=u01rpEod,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-02T15:24:23.621+0000) > > remove execute and they can buff him as much as they want in anyway -shrugs- I'd say keep the execute but make it physical damage not true. Or remove the anti shield mechanic. His R is currently too strong so they sacrificed his kit for it. But why does it have to be so strong? Gold generation, true damage, execute, ranged AOE, resettable, ingores shields, theres no need to have this amount of shit in a single ability... Remember that they took Irelias Ult disable because it granted too much, when that wasnt even the problem with her.
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