Kat XD (NA)
: How does each champion's gameplay fit in with their story in your opinion?
Warwick is sorta makes sense in how his abilities are in his lore. His passive is based on how Warwick regenerates his body which was shown in the story where Singed was turning Warwick into the beast. His Q is literally just him biting which is what he does. His W is similar with him going savage but he should just go auto pilot and start attacking any living thing near him since he just goes on a rampage the moment he smells blood. His E with the fear when he howls makes sense since everything fears Warwick making him somewhat of a boogeyman or something for criminals to fear and since they dont know his name hes referred to as the Howler. His ult is just him jumping his which can be shown in the cinematic at the end of the video
Comentários de Rioters
: > [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj529Ihp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T04:13:20.437+0000) > > Each character is from a different region with a different language why would they speak english? Theres no answer expect for maybe she likes to like alot of champs Do you know what mute means though? Because Sona is mute. She doesn't speak, the only reason you can hear Sona's "Voice" is because of a direct connection to the summoner, so Sona wouldn't be heard period with the retcon if she got a VO update unless they just ignore her lore or change her drastically
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj529Ihp,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T13:08:15.324+0000) > > Do you know what mute means though? Because Sona is mute. She doesn't speak, the only reason you can hear Sona's "Voice" is because of a direct connection to the summoner, so Sona wouldn't be heard period with the retcon if she got a VO update unless they just ignore her lore or change her drastically You can think in a voice and you'll hear it in your head thats basically what shes doing
: > [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj529Ihp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-09T15:32:17.829+0000) > > The summoners rift isnt a thing anymore since it doesnt give good plot points for champions and I doubt they would still have it be a thing since the idea isnt exactly a good one and summoners are still a thing possibly in that place between Demacia and Noxus where mages live. All they'd need to do is redo her voice to be her just talking to herself and she wouldnt lose her voice. Sona's mute why would she talk to herself?
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj529Ihp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T15:53:57.710+0000) > > Sona's mute why would she talk to herself? Each character is from a different region with a different language why would they speak english? Theres no answer expect for maybe she likes to like alot of champs
GigglesO (NA)
: Would you look at that?
Blitz would sell the skin anyways I think the buffs were just to make him alot more popular to higher elos and such
: Would Sylas ever team up with Noxus?
I've had thoughts that he could use Noxus for help if he was truly desperate but that would just let Swain use that as a advantage to take over Demacia and expand Noxus. So probably not
: A Sona-verse theory that probably wouldn't be cannon (But is cool maybe)
The summoners rift isnt a thing anymore since it doesnt give good plot points for champions and I doubt they would still have it be a thing since the idea isnt exactly a good one and summoners are still a thing possibly in that place between Demacia and Noxus where mages live. All they'd need to do is redo her voice to be her just talking to herself and she wouldnt lose her voice.
xScarfy (EUW)
: New Champion Teaser?
That smoke is most likely the black mist from the Shadow Isles. Its not Fiddlesticks rework since hes gonna be coming in 2020 since the last we saw him they just locked down his looks and such. It might possibly be the next ADC due to the first teaser showing a bullet with black mist around it and its been awhile since the Shadow Isles got a champ if you dont count Yoricks VGU and Morde since he has nothing to do with the Shadow Isles now
: We pitched this back during Kindred's development. I still love the idea and wish we could do this, and I still hold a candle of hope that one day Kindred'll be so in the meta that we'd make a series: gazelle/gator, dolphin/kraken, sparrow/boa. What combos do you folks think would work for which regions?
> [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Pld0E6vn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-03T20:57:41.972+0000) > > We pitched this back during Kindred's development. I still love the idea and wish we could do this, and I still hold a candle of hope that one day Kindred'll be so in the meta that we'd make a series: gazelle/gator, dolphin/kraken, sparrow/boa. > > What combos do you folks think would work for which regions? I think for Zaun a Rat for Wolf and some type of bird since they're they only animals that could realistically fly out of Zaun unless a bat could work better.
Comentários de Rioters
Wishingz (NA)
: Is this normal? I have a new client that updated yesterday?
Thats hte updated client. It lets you log in automnatically instead of typing in your password over and over
GreenLore (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oyNm12UA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-25T09:25:00.660+0000) > > Another reason why he might still have the hosts alive is because hes not as good at corrupting as Aatrox/Rhaast. Aatrox has been through multiple hosts for a long time and he can take them over very quickly with no problem and Rhaast is just slowly corrupting Kayn and possibly learning how it works, Varus although similar to Rhaast he wasn't like Aatrox who was corrupting over and over, Varus was in a well with no real knowledge or practice on corrupting a host and the 2 hosts makes it even more difficult. > Personally I think the reason why the 2 are still alive in him is because Varus essentially formed a pact with Valmar. Valmar gave Varus his body and the body of Kai in exchange for rescuing Kai from death. So Varus was able to get control over their bodies instantly because Val gave them to him willingly(and kai was in no condition to refuse), but as a result he hasn't "digested" the souls yet, since he didn't get control over these bodies the normal way.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oyNm12UA,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-09-30T01:04:31.987+0000) > > Personally I think the reason why the 2 are still alive in him is because Varus essentially formed a pact with Valmar. > Valmar gave Varus his body and the body of Kai in exchange for rescuing Kai from death. > So Varus was able to get control over their bodies instantly because Val gave them to him willingly(and kai was in no condition to refuse), but as a result he hasn't "digested" the souls yet, since he didn't get control over these bodies the normal way. That would be cool but it would also be that with the 2 bodies Varus has to deal with 2 different souls and both of them are different based off the music video. When it shows what they see inside they're minds one of them is angry and is full of rage wanting to kill the Noxian's for hurting their lover which I believe may speed up the corruption, While the injured one is at peace in a field with nature possibly slowing the corruption since he doesn't have anger for the Darkin to feed off of
: Demacian Steel is just Valyrian Steel prove me wrong
I'd consider making a metal swords mixed with rock like trees that absorb magic to be original. Also if you cringe over a lore tip while loading into a game I really wouldn't want to see the ideas you have
: Should the other Darkin fear Varus?
Aatrox uses multiple hosts and not just one. He burns through the host after growing to that size. He cant die due to the sword being his soul/essence that keeps him trapped every time the body die, making him suffocate and not able to see from what I remember in one of his stories. He wants to destroy the world because he hopes that it will kill him. He wants to die because he sees himself as a mockery of his old form and he hates the body he controls as well Aatrox is depressed and just wants the suffering to stop. Varus isn't special other than he used 2 bodies to form his new body and due to that he isn't fully in control and the hosts will take control from time to time. He is still a Darkin and that makes him a threat to Aatrox and Rhaast since there was a Darkin war where the Darkin all fought each other. Unless the hosts have any hint of having a power that Varus can use like how Rhaast can use shadow magic then he isnt any stronger or a threat to the others, a matter of fact he might be weaker since he has to fight for control from the hosts. Another reason why he might still have the hosts alive is because hes not as good at corrupting as Aatrox/Rhaast. Aatrox has been through multiple hosts for a long time and he can take them over very quickly with no problem and Rhaast is just slowly corrupting Kayn and possibly learning how it works, Varus although similar to Rhaast he wasn't like Aatrox who was corrupting over and over, Varus was in a well with no real knowledge or practice on corrupting a host and the 2 hosts makes it even more difficult. So Varus isn't special and I doubt the other 4 fear him. I'd say on the 3/5 we know so far Varus is the least of the worries because he doesn't show any special abilities that set him apart the only ability is that he has a bow, Rhaast is the second most dangerous due to if he corrupts Kayn he gets shadow magic at his disposal which is very power especially when you realize that Kayn is a very skilled individual, then Aatrox who is more skilled and possibly powerful then the other 2 plus he knows how to grow himself to colossal sizes yet it is also a double edged sword since it burns his host time significantly hence why he has interactions to people like Jax, Fiora, and Tryndamere talking about how they're good vessels
: > [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZtLdmvi4,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-25T06:21:10.289+0000) > > Wait who is Ildhaurg? I dont think I've ever heard that name before. I thought it might be Tryndameres' Tusk God, because she tells him to "protect her husband" but he was never named in that bio. Seems to be teasing a new demi-god. Whether for lore or new champion purposes who knows?
> [{quoted}](name=mrmeddyman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZtLdmvi4,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-09-25T06:41:32.989+0000) > > I thought it might be Tryndameres' Tusk God, because she tells him to "protect her husband" but he was never named in that bio. Seems to be teasing a new demi-god. Whether for lore or new champion purposes who knows? Ohh alright I was wondering if it was gonna be a new champ or just a lore thing. Who knows it might be the boar god since there was talk awhile ago about how they're making a non humanoid champion.
Adder (OCE)
: Ashe voice-over update
Wait who is Ildhaurg? I dont think I've ever heard that name before.
: Commentary like this from League's "mains" community is the equivalent to unironic flat earth or anti-vacc culture. You monomaniacs are so damn obnoxious and out-of-touch it's an embarrassment. But here we are with a new low for you guys, attempting a petition for basically free compensation. Stick with reddit dude, they probably tolerate this sort of thinking more.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1B09NKEO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-18T21:52:19.075+0000) > > Commentary like this from League's "mains" community is the equivalent to unironic flat earth or anti-vacc culture. You monomaniacs are so damn obnoxious and out-of-touch it's an embarrassment. But here we are with a new low for you guys, attempting a petition for basically free compensation. > > Stick with reddit dude, they probably tolerate this sort of thinking more. Calm down kid. Not sure why youre acting like these mains are some 60 year old man who doesnt understand todays technology, this person only asked for a classic Morde skin and Im sure they are aware that Riot doesn't do them anymore yet that doesn't mean that this person and other mains of the champion wouldn't want a skin that reflects the old champ they played. And the only embarrassment is you typing out that entire post without realizing how sad it sounds.
Zeanix (OCE)
: New logo revealed for the 10th anniversary and...
Aw man Im so glad they changed the logo cant wait to ask my friends if they want to play Leagueof Legends!! Im being sarcastic obviously it doesnt look good at all and it doesnt even fit with the clients theme really
Bultz (NA)
: Some Darkin Questions
Rhaast wouldnt be able to kill Asol. The Darkin are Ascended beings who used blood magic to turn themselves into Darkin so they are more powerful than a ascended but not a Star Dragon. The Void is what they fought in Icathia which caused them to get PTSD and go insane after Azir's death having them become Darkin in the first place, Aatrox would probably kill it with the rest of the world because he wants death and believes killing everything will let him finally die, Rhaast might kill the Void for the fun of it, and Varus Im not sure of because hes not really that much of a focus since Riot wants to focus on his hosts more also turning him into a Darkin without a proper VGU or Ezreal level VU doesnt really connect him to the Darkin as much as Aatrox and Rhaast especially since Varus has no new voice to give Darkin interactions to show his intent. No Rhaast does not but I suppose he could with blood magic. All ascended are turned partly into a animal, Azir is a bird, Nasus a dog, Renekton a crocodile, yet Xerath is not one due to him messing up the ritual and getting overloaded with magic. But the 3 known Darkin arent said what animal they were in the story Twilight of the Gods it talks about some other Darkin who are described with what animals they are partly, which I cant remember fully but one was a cat, snake, wolf, etc. Theres many debates on what they are but what I see is Aatrox could be a dragon or owl which can explain why he has those giant wings, so its possible for Rhaast to give himself wings but they are probably based off what animal they once were. I hope so. Perhaps when the last 2 Darkin come out Riot could give us a event giving the 5 Darkin skins based off the ascended they once were not sure how they'd do that with Kayn though.
R4ndom F1nn (EUNE)
: Problem of Galio
Honestly Galio needs to just be able to ult himself. Ive had several games of him where I needed some kind of engage but my team was way to stupid to actually go in so I could do something. Letting him ult himself maybe with a smaller circle would be nice. IMO the main problem with Galio is the fact that he has too much cc in his kit making it so Riot needs to nerf everything about him because of it. When Zac was given the ult and q grab he was nerfed alot because of how useful he could be. What Riot should do is remove some of the cc in some way especially if they want him to be a mid lane mage and not some kind of tank. Or atleast making it useful for him to build tank just like his old passive that gave him more ap the more MR he had.
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nVEiah8A,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-02T03:56:22.338+0000) > > Honestly I feel that Star Guardian Urgot could only work is if he was one of those monsters similar to the event or as a legendary skin where he is a Star Guardian who is corrupted by the Dark Star. I feel like he would be better has just Dark Star but if he was a SG DS he would be a cool concept done right and maybe they could have that Star Guardian recall thing where you here the woman singing it could be remixed into a sinister Dark Star maybe with Thresh and other Dark Stars laughing? Star Guardian and Dark Star are not part of the same universe. This has been confirmed numerous times by Rioters; the opponents of the Dark Stars are the Cosmics. Now, that said, both a Dark Star Urgot and a Star Guardian universe Void-like Urgot would be cool skins.
> [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nVEiah8A,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-09-02T15:59:28.676+0000) > > Star Guardian and Dark Star are not part of the same universe. This has been confirmed numerous times by Rioters; the opponents of the Dark Stars are the Cosmics. Now, that said, both a Dark Star Urgot and a Star Guardian universe Void-like Urgot would be cool skins. Im aware of them not being apart of the same universe. Odyssey isnt apart of the cosmic universe yet Dark Odyssey Rhaast is a thing. They could make a excuse for him being put into the Star Guardian universe like they did with Rhaast, maybe Rhaast opens the ora gate or something idk. But yeah I would prefer just a plan DS and then those SG corrupted creatures like in the game mode but I still think my idea could be cool if done well.
: Thoughts of Skins: Urgot
Honestly I feel that Star Guardian Urgot could only work is if he was one of those monsters similar to the event or as a legendary skin where he is a Star Guardian who is corrupted by the Dark Star. I feel like he would be better has just Dark Star but if he was a SG DS he would be a cool concept done right and maybe they could have that Star Guardian recall thing where you here the woman singing it could be remixed into a sinister Dark Star maybe with Thresh and other Dark Stars laughing?
Bultz (NA)
: @RIOTO How come there are no superhero modeled (not personality) type champions?
Galio is very heroic in voice lines body and abilities, Zac became a hero that protects the people in Zaun, Warwick is a vigilante who kills all the chembarons and their grunts but when he smells blood he wilds out like in his story the Howler and even so he doesnt want to save everyone with his quote "Cant save you all dont want to".
: They're not. And they can't be anyway, because Xayah and Rakan already have skins in the Dark Star/Cosmic universe, also with Lulu. Combining the skin lines would cause issues with that. Just because they barely have any resemblance to Dark Star doesn't mean they're Dark Star corruptants. Darkness is the general theme for corruption/evil in basically everything ever, so darkness =/= Dark Star corruption. And need I remind you what Dark Star corruptants look like? They're fucking MONSTERS. Massive, unspeakable eldritch horrors that grow even larger the more they consume. Even Dark Cosmic Jhin has to wear a mask to contain what he truly is, because he can't _control_ what he truly is. The fallen Star Guardians look NOTHING like the Dark Star corruptants in any way, shape, or form. They aren't monsters. They're just dark colored Star Guardians.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=s9x06ubO,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-08-27T08:20:56.679+0000) > > They're not. > And they can't be anyway, because Xayah and Rakan already have skins in the Dark Star/Cosmic universe, also with Lulu. Combining the skin lines would cause issues with that. > > Just because they barely have any resemblance to Dark Star doesn't mean they're Dark Star corruptants. Darkness is the general theme for corruption/evil in basically everything ever, so darkness =/= Dark Star corruption. > > And need I remind you what Dark Star corruptants look like? They're fucking MONSTERS. Massive, unspeakable eldritch horrors that grow even larger the more they consume. Even Dark Cosmic Jhin has to wear a mask to contain what he truly is, because he can't _control_ what he truly is. The fallen Star Guardians look NOTHING like the Dark Star corruptants in any way, shape, or form. They aren't monsters. They're just dark colored Star Guardians. Its not a barely resemblance they have alot similar. I dont know if Dark Star is actually apart of the Cosmic universe because they'd probably have already consumed it. Yes darkness is a theme but thats a main theme with the Dark Star skins and the purples and 4 star point on Zoe, Xayah, and Rakan is what Jhin and Kha have which are Dark Stars. They arent entirely monsters they are dead monster stars like most of them OR they are corrupted creatures Jhin a corrupted Cosmic being hence the name Dark Cosmic was most likely as human like as the rest of the Cosmic beings and he looks mostly similar except hes purple and he has a floating head and still might be huge. Kayn/Rhaast is stranger one because does Rhaast grow to a giant corruptant or stay small? Even so hes still humanoid but changes to get Ora horns and such and he loses the face. Xayah and Rakan might not be any different except maybe the Star Guardian magic can repel some of the effects or fully stop them. When Rakan recalls he is a normal Star Guardian he brings it away from him turning him into a slightly corrupted SG and he sends it out turning him fully into the corrupted SG who is black purple and has the 4 pointed star which is very similar to the Dark Stars. Xayah is fully corrupted in the same way as Rakan was at the end of his recall she sees the gem touches it and she is cleansed of all the corruption so possibly what might happen is the gems stop them from being corrupted by ways of magic or something else which can explain why they arent your typical Dark Star corrupted look. I dont know we'll both see after they release the lore and Xayah and Rakan's special interactions Im just hoping Im right because Dark Star is my favorite skinline.
: Im pretty sure they are corrupted by the Dark Star which is why they look so similar. Besides they've done it before with Kayn being Odyssey and Dark Star with Rhaast and Jhin being a Cosmic being corrupted by the Dark Star. Thats what the Dark Star skinline is, a corrupting universal idea with Rhaast possibly opening the gate to the Star Guardian universe it would make sense for those SG monsters and for Rakan, Xayah, and Zoe being corrupted. If this is true which Im hoping for Im super happy for it because Dark Star is my favorite skin line
> [{quoted}](name=Zombie Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=s9x06ubO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-27T07:45:33.844+0000) > > Im pretty sure they are corrupted by the Dark Star which is why they look so similar. Besides they've done it before with Kayn being Odyssey and Dark Star with Rhaast and Jhin being a Cosmic being corrupted by the Dark Star. Thats what the Dark Star skinline is, a corrupting universal idea with Rhaast possibly opening the gate to the Star Guardian universe it would make sense for those SG monsters and for Rakan, Xayah, and Zoe being corrupted. If this is true which Im hoping for Im super happy for it because Dark Star is my favorite skin line Also Project wasnt mashed up at all Warwick is a human who was turned into a new type of Project and Coven was reworked with Elderwood to become a new Elderwood
: I bet the real Star Guardian skins are locked behind chromas-Lack of "new" content
Im pretty sure they are corrupted by the Dark Star which is why they look so similar. Besides they've done it before with Kayn being Odyssey and Dark Star with Rhaast and Jhin being a Cosmic being corrupted by the Dark Star. Thats what the Dark Star skinline is, a corrupting universal idea with Rhaast possibly opening the gate to the Star Guardian universe it would make sense for those SG monsters and for Rakan, Xayah, and Zoe being corrupted. If this is true which Im hoping for Im super happy for it because Dark Star is my favorite skin line
: Are Dark Star/Cosmic and Star Guardian in the same universe? Nope. Is it possible? Probably, but not likely. I believe the only way the Dark Star could have gotten to that universe is if a gate were opened, like with what happened with Rhaast(who is a Dark Star entity) in the Odyssey universe. When someone is corrupted by the Dark Star, I believe 2 things can happen. They can become a Dark Star entity, an all consuming entity of nothingness, a failed corruptant. Or, they could become a Dark Cosmic, a pure corruptant. They could also just cease to exist entirely. The corruption of the Star Guardians is likely tied to their gems, not the Dark Star. If they lose their gems, or they get damaged, they become corrupted. That's why when Rakan gives Xayah his gem, he goes completely dark while she becomes whole again and turns green(green is the color of Rakan's gem).
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UBVEalQ3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-27T03:27:55.743+0000) > > Are Dark Star/Cosmic and Star Guardian in the same universe? Nope. > Yeah I was thinking that Rhaast opened the gate which is why they came to the Cosmic universe with Dark Cosmic Jhin then they jumped to the Star Guardian universe but it might make sense with the gems. Also didnt know they were apart of the same universe as cosmic tbh
Comentários de Rioters
: Things that could easily make Varus more Darkin like
I feel like the head on the bow wouldnt look as good but Ive been thinking of this too. The Darkin have a certain organ on their weapon to make it actually look alive and not like a normal weapon because the Darkins are the weapons. Varus obviously was pushed into a Darkin but wasnt updated to actually show that hes a Darkin and not some other demon type creature. What I think Riot could do is update Varus give him the red skin and bony black armor on him (Which would go where the purple stuff is on his hands and legs), turn his crown on his head to a actual headpiece like Aatrox's just not as big and staying true to the original. Then for his weapon redesign it to fit the Darkin appearance with the red and black but I think he should get a lung on his bow. I feel like it would make sense since to aim the bow accurately you have to hold your breath and the Darkin all use important organs with the heart and eye.
: Would viktor surrender to the void if it meant his glorious evolution would succeed?
Viktor just wants to help the people of Zaun by giving them robotic parts so that they can live their best lives. If Im remembering correctly the Glorious Evolution is a group made by other people of Zaun to worship Viktor and he wants no part in it, he only says it in his voice now because every older champion doesn't have lines fitting their lore
: > [{quoted}](name=Armored One,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Elvlz4QG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-03T08:00:44.643+0000) > > How are they bad and unoriginal? Care to give some actual reasons other than unoriginal and bad splash arts? They are all pretty good and original compared to the other Projects, especially Warwick. They don't really fit with the overall feel imo. Akali is a monster how? Plus her blue hair with her red (and orange) everything else just clashes and looks so horrible. Jinx is the worst, no white hair, barely any neon except for her hair, underwhelming effects. Project Irelia is horribly done imo, the hood just throws the whole thing, pink and gold clashes terrible, and the effects are both eye searing and underwhelming. Project Pyke is...ok. It's not the best but I'd definitely say it's not worth 1820 RP, 1350 maybe, 1820 no. Project Warwick is probably the best of a bad lot, the recall is interesting, the effects are okay, and overall the skin makes you think of a rampaging monster let loose. Plus he actually had neon. None of the skins except Prestige Irelia have white hair which is part of the whole theme of Project. Yes, they're supposed to be "unfinished" projects for the most part, but it still makes them all feel they were thrown in with almost no thought into how they fit into the theme (except Pyke and WW, who I'd say are the most monstrous of the lot). It's like their thought process was, "Most of these characters are popular, people have been asking for project skins of them for a while, yeah sure, let's do it." Instead of making skins for characters that would gel into the universe better, or even picking a better theme for the ones they chose.
> [{quoted}](name=kaijukitten,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Elvlz4QG,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-03T09:01:01.769+0000) > > Instead of making skins for characters that would gel into the universe better, or even picking a better theme for the ones they chose. I agree with you completely. Riot has been really safe and has sacrificed skin themes for champs that will sell (Battle Boss Yasuo and Qiyana). Theres so many good themes for monster that aren't Akali, Irelia, and Jinx for actual monsters
: The new project skins are pretty bad
How are they bad and unoriginal? Care to give some actual reasons other than unoriginal and bad splash arts? They are all pretty good and original compared to the other Projects, especially Warwick.
: About that Ultimate skin...
I've always loved and wanted a ultimate skin for Pantheon where he becomes every host he ever possessed. Each host would be a different voice actor and have a certain appearance to make them distinct, possibly a different look for each region? You could have a number of different ones and you could even have a female one (based off Aurelion Sol's lore where Pantheon had a female host) and so on. It fits Pantheon due to it being his lore and it can't really be done with any other champ except maybe other Aspects.
Bârd (NA)
: Is it just me or is Riot not even trying to hype up new releases anymore?
Dont forget the fact that reworks arent even that hyped atleast this year anyways. Morde wasn't given anything to hype him up except a video with Rioters talking about him when he shouldve gotten a cinematic, if Pantheon isn't given anything to hype him up it will clearly show that Riots not really make stuff hyped anymore I mean they leaked his skin map for his dragonslayer chroma so I wouldnt be surprised if they dont have alot planned. The best teasers IMO were Jhin, Aurelion Sol, and Warwick it brought you to their world and had you experience them and what they see or act like they are amazing. Sylas' theme is based off the Demacian one just turned sinister (Hes the only new champ Ive been hyped for) Qiyana, Yuumi, and Neeko all weren't as amazing as they could be ESPECIALLY Qiyana for the leader and poster child of a new region you'd think she'd be alot cooler and more original
: Revert the Kled q buff and address his real issues
I have no idea why Riot thought this buff was a good idea and what Kled needed. I play him alot and its so difficult to get courage back or even kill someone when Im in a 1v1 dismounted fight. They need to give him those buffs to his courage gain and maybe let him activate W because its so annoying when you actually need the ability you dont have it because you used it to farm minions or it activated on its own when you didnt even attack anything.
: Yea, he's NOT a human in the normal universe. he WAS. You can't call Warwick human anymore. that's like saying a giant dog walking on two legs is still human because his ID card says so. The lore is there to give a reason to why he's a monster, not to define him as a human. You take the lore away you are not calling him a human.
> [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HiYpQwXL,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T21:01:33.080+0000) > > Yea, he's NOT a human in the normal universe. he WAS. You can't call Warwick human anymore. that's like saying a giant dog walking on two legs is still human because his ID card says so. The lore is there to give a reason to why he's a monster, not to define him as a human. You take the lore away you are not calling him a human. This is supposed to be a play on his base lore which is what skin lines try to do when they make new skins. Warwick was human and was captured by Singed and experimented on and transformed into a abomination, which is basically what is happening to Warwick in this universe except its PROJECT transforming him not Singed this is his bio for the skin "Plucked from the wastelands by a PROJECT research cell, Warwick has been irrevocably transformed into a horrifying newstage of transhuman evolution⁠—a weaponized monster stripped of all remorse, and programmed solely for violent suppression. Through the meddling of the ragtag outsiders, he escaped before being completed, and now rampages indiscriminately across the City." Its very similar and just basically all the PROJECT's lore somehow reflect who they are in the default universe. Just like how {{champion:555}} cant remember who people are or if someones real is similar to his base lore of how everytime he sees a person that looks like a captain he checks his list and the names magically there even when he thought his list was done he saw the person's name and just thought he folded the paper wrong. He is just as human as any other PROJECT champ just given a different play on the skinline which opens up the idea for more monsterous champs to be eligible for PROJECT.
: Well, I need dark star Mordekaiser. So what i do you ask? i paint one.
I love it! I want Mordekaiser to get a Dark Star skin so badly. Id love it to be a legendary and from what I can tell Riot is doing a thing with the Dark Star legendaries where they have them with a different universe except for Thresh. Thresh was the leader and started the skinline so hes got no other skinline attached. Rhaast was next being part odyssey, and now Jhin being from the cosmic universe. Morde could be from some universe either Dreadnova, pulsefire etc
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: Durand likely knew more about Petricite than anyone else. Remember that he didn't need to make Galio an actual statue, he could have easily made him a monolith or something else that would have been unable to move, but he specficially made him a giant gargoyle. Aside from that there is also likely the fact that Galio has absorbed far more magic than any other chunk of petricite, so who knows maybe every giant boulder of petrcitice could become sentient if it absorbs enough magic.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mqBJwRNr,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-25T22:15:56.356+0000) > > Durand likely knew more about Petricite than anyone else. > Remember that he didn't need to make Galio an actual statue, he could have easily made him a monolith or something else that would have been unable to move, but he specficially made him a giant gargoyle. > > Aside from that there is also likely the fact that Galio has absorbed far more magic than any other chunk of petricite, so who knows maybe every giant boulder of petrcitice could become sentient if it absorbs enough magic. I like that idea alot, it makes alot of sense and also connects that why hes sleeping and not always awake
GreenLore (EUW)
: Durand likely knew more about Petricite than anyone else. Remember that he didn't need to make Galio an actual statue, he could have easily made him a monolith or something else that would have been unable to move, but he specficially made him a giant gargoyle. Aside from that there is also likely the fact that Galio has absorbed far more magic than any other chunk of petricite, so who knows maybe every giant boulder of petrcitice could become sentient if it absorbs enough magic.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mqBJwRNr,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-25T22:15:56.356+0000) > > Durand likely knew more about Petricite than anyone else. > Remember that he didn't need to make Galio an actual statue, he could have easily made him a monolith or something else that would have been unable to move, but he specficially made him a giant gargoyle. > > Aside from that there is also likely the fact that Galio has absorbed far more magic than any other chunk of petricite, so who knows maybe every giant boulder of petrcitice could become sentient if it absorbs enough magic. That could be a good lore idea for having the sentinels living in Runeterra
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: hmmm alright...Still bugs me cause the way they talk about it in game he straight rips rhaast's soul from the scythe which would effectively mean he dies. Sleeping for kayn may have been the wrong word but he's basically in an endless limbo till he dies.
> [{quoted}](name=iamthegoatofwar,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2019-06-23T23:23:09.765+0000) > > hmmm alright...Still bugs me cause the way they talk about it in game he straight rips rhaast's soul from the scythe which would effectively mean he dies. > > Sleeping for kayn may have been the wrong word but he's basically in an endless limbo till he dies. Yeah it seems they make something happen then think something over. Sometimes its alright with Kayn showing what happens to Rhaast and Kayn when one wins and others times its like Sylas where the reason why he doesnt have a beard is just "UHHH THEY SHAVE HIM SO HE DOESNT GET HIS BEARD STUCK IN HIS CHAIN"
: There's also something else I'd like cleared up perhaps not in lore but an understanding of the what ifs. It's made clear that if rhaast takes over kayn then kayn is basically just "sleeping" or something to that effect. But if kayn takes over rhaast since he "expels" him from the scythe does that mean that rhaast is truly dead and never coming back? If so could kayn actually be the one who could save us from the darkin in the world? After all the darkin are bound to their weapons but if kayn can break that bond and kill the darkin that means he could stop them and finally give them death.
> [{quoted}](name=iamthegoatofwar,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-23T12:42:40.953+0000) > > There's also something else I'd like cleared up perhaps not in lore but an understanding of the what ifs. It's made clear that if rhaast takes over kayn then kayn is basically just "sleeping" or something to that effect. > > But if kayn takes over rhaast since he "expels" him from the scythe does that mean that rhaast is truly dead and never coming back? If so could kayn actually be the one who could save us from the darkin in the world? After all the darkin are bound to their weapons but if kayn can break that bond and kill the darkin that means he could stop them and finally give them death. I saw on the Q&A for Kayn that if Rhaast loses to Kayn he goes into a sleeper mode until Kayn dies then he wakes up. I think Kayn isnt sleeping when he dies I think Rhaast just isnt sure that he killed him or not due to him being his first host and all. Because when the Darkin body dies the host doesnt return.
: When have they given this excuse: "Don't give us the excuse of Rhaast not being a champion." for literally ANYTHING? They give lore for people who aren't champions all the time. Not only that, but RHAAST IS A CHAMPION. Literally the whole point of Kayn is that he's two different timelines in one champion. One where Kayn wins and one where Rhaast wins. Your name literally changes to Rhaast when you go red form, he is very much a champion. You're really trying to bait people into getting angry over Rhaast lore when he at least has lore. There is still a Darkin we haven't even heard about... and you're over here worrying about a Darkin that at least has lore? Why the hell wouldn't they give Rhaast lore eventually? Like what is up with your mindset? He's literally part of one of the most interesting stories riot has with Zed and Ionia. League's lore is finally starting to move forward, he'll probably be getting stories with Kayn and his attempts at manipulating Kayn. Stop searching for a problem where there isn't one. Rhaast isn't of concern lore wise. It's clear you're not even a big fan of the lore just by how obnoxious you sound to anyone who does.
> [{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-22T20:01:47.949+0000) > > When have they given this excuse: "Don't give us the excuse of Rhaast not being a champion." for literally ANYTHING? They give lore for people who aren't champions all the time. Not only that, but RHAAST IS A CHAMPION. Literally the whole point of Kayn is that he's two different timelines in one champion. One where Kayn wins and one where Rhaast wins. Your name literally changes to Rhaast when you go red form, he is very much a champion. You're really trying to bait people into getting angry over Rhaast lore when he at least has lore. There is still a Darkin we haven't even heard about... and you're over here worrying about a Darkin that at least has lore? Why the hell wouldn't they give Rhaast lore eventually? Like what is up with your mindset? He's literally part of one of the most interesting stories riot has with Zed and Ionia. League's lore is finally starting to move forward, he'll probably be getting stories with Kayn and his attempts at manipulating Kayn. Stop searching for a problem where there isn't one. Rhaast isn't of concern lore wise. It's clear you're not even a big fan of the lore just by how obnoxious you sound to anyone who does. They did say once they didnt want to give him lore because hes not a champion I dont remember where but he did. And please calm down and stop insulting the guy why would he not be a fan of the lore if he wasnt asking for more. I mean alot of champions arent a concern for lore too but they do this stuff in chunks, Demacia with Galio and Sylas, Noxus with Swain and Mordekaiser, Zaun with Warwick and Urgot, and the Freljord with Ornn. Seriously though you dont need to insult the person for just asking for more lore for a champion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:43:11.686+0000) > > Here's the thing though. I say this with all the love in my heart, Rhaast isn't that interesting. He's a **Fantastic** character with great personality, but overall, the dude was just some jerkbag conquering stuff and enslaving people. People are mixing up a fun character, for an interesting character, cause Rhaast is equally, if not possibly greater, a one-note character like Kayn. > > Why did Valmar and Kai get their own lore? Because uh, they're still a major factor for the story against the darkin Varus, trying to wrest control from him. They're the focal point around the character, these two lovers forged into one. Their love is the entire reason they currently stand against Varus. If anything, until Riot extremely slightly fleshed out Varus by giving him old Varus lore before he was a Darkin, Varus was the one with no lore and background. Why? > > Because the Darkin aren't the main character of these stories. They're antagonists, and while they do need to be fleshed out a little, they are not who the story revolves around. Kayn is the main character of his story, Rhaast is the obstacle between him and his goal. If Rhaast was a deeper character, maybe more lore would be needed, but as he is now, Rhaast is an extremely one-note character. His motivations: To be free and go killing stuff. His past: He was free and killing stuff. His ideal future: To be free and killing stuff, and then maybe getting depressed like Aatrox. > > Aatrox has lore, because he doesn't have any host to care about, and hosts become a use and discard aspect of his life. Aatrox is the actual character here, not the conflict between Darkin and Host. This applies for all Darkin updates. They just made them mustache twirling brutes. Varus, Rhaast, Aatrox, all angry yelling purple/red hulks. Compare to previous Aatrox before the Darkin revamp. The guy was a manipulator, menacing without wailing into the wind about it. A cold avatar of war vanishing across battles, bringing ruin by goading people into blood lust. This new one is just permanent, comically angry trash.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-22T19:01:44.166+0000) > > This applies for all Darkin updates. They just made them mustache twirling brutes. Varus, Rhaast, Aatrox, all angry yelling purple/red hulks. > > Compare to previous Aatrox before the Darkin revamp. The guy was a manipulator, menacing without wailing into the wind about it. A cold avatar of war vanishing across battles, bringing ruin by goading people into blood lust. > > This new one is just permanent, comically angry trash. You're forgetting to mention that he has several ideas that make him deeper than who he seems. Depression, loss of purpose, suicidal thoughts, and body dis morphia over his new Darkin form. His new lore isnt bad its pretty good imo and old Aatrox never really felt that cool or interesting sure him getting people stronger and giving them bloodlust is cool but it doesnt fit the idea of a Darkin anymore maybe when he was the only one and they were thought to be aliens maybe but not anymore.
: Here's the thing though. I say this with all the love in my heart, Rhaast isn't that interesting. He's a **Fantastic** character with great personality, but overall, the dude was just some jerkbag conquering stuff and enslaving people. People are mixing up a fun character, for an interesting character, cause Rhaast is equally, if not possibly greater, a one-note character like Kayn. Why did Valmar and Kai get their own lore? Because uh, they're still a major factor for the story against the darkin Varus, trying to wrest control from him. They're the focal point around the character, these two lovers forged into one. Their love is the entire reason they currently stand against Varus. If anything, until Riot extremely slightly fleshed out Varus by giving him old Varus lore before he was a Darkin, Varus was the one with no lore and background. Why? Because the Darkin aren't the main character of these stories. They're antagonists, and while they do need to be fleshed out a little, they are not who the story revolves around. Kayn is the main character of his story, Rhaast is the obstacle between him and his goal. If Rhaast was a deeper character, maybe more lore would be needed, but as he is now, Rhaast is an extremely one-note character. His motivations: To be free and go killing stuff. His past: He was free and killing stuff. His ideal future: To be free and killing stuff, and then maybe getting depressed like Aatrox. Aatrox has lore, because he doesn't have any host to care about, and hosts become a use and discard aspect of his life. Aatrox is the actual character here, not the conflict between Darkin and Host.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yd76NEJb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:43:11.686+0000) > > Here's the thing though. I say this with all the love in my heart, Rhaast isn't that interesting. He's a **Fantastic** character with great personality, but overall, the dude was just some jerkbag conquering stuff and enslaving people. People are mixing up a fun character, for an interesting character, cause Rhaast is equally, if not possibly greater, a one-note character like Kayn. > > Why did Valmar and Kai get their own lore? Because uh, they're still a major factor for the story against the darkin Varus, trying to wrest control from him. They're the focal point around the character, these two lovers forged into one. Their love is the entire reason they currently stand against Varus. If anything, until Riot extremely slightly fleshed out Varus by giving him old Varus lore before he was a Darkin, Varus was the one with no lore and background. Why? yeah Rhaast may not seem that interesting because we have practically 0 lore about him. And yeah he was conquering and killing people because literally all the Darkin were doing that because Azir died and they all lost purpose thats why there was a Darkin war, Aatrox and Varus probably were too. You cant say a character isnt interesting when we have 0 knowledge about them take whichever character you think is the best written and remove all ideas of lore to just their personality and looks you'd get the exact same thing. Whats so different from Kai and Valmar to Rhaast in a story sense? Rhaast is a big factor in the Darkin idea and to be a obstacle to Kayn's story like you said and he needs to be given lore to flesh him out, because he is one of the five left alive and trapped in a weapon from the aspect of change before Zoe. Rhaast's ideas could be based off insanity or some type of cope to his PTSD from the Battle for Icathia, Im not sure how it would be a cope but I can see insanity because if you've read Aatrox's lore he was suffocating in his weapon and was blind Rhaast couldve had something similar and had probably suffered longer than Aatrox since Kayn is his first host. Yes he seems uninteresting but thats the exact reason why he deserves lore so he can be fleshed out and become interesting and have amazing lore possibly like Ornn or Aatrox.
: I much preferred the Institute of War.
The Institute of War was a lore dead end because people were either captured to get put in it or people were willing to go in. They had to change it to not only improve but give champions different motives and ways to tell the story. I didnt play the game around that time I came to the game at indreds release so Ive preferred the new lore style but to each his own
: Rhaast deserves lore
For real. The excuse of him not being a champion makes totally no sense not only for Kai and Valmar but also all the lore they release with random people that arent even champions. Rhaast needs lore we know nothing about him and hes IMO the most important part of Kayn's story, Kayn is just a edgy shadow ninja whos great at every weapon, theres nothing that interesting with that until you bring in the Darkin. He was even name dropped in the Twilight of the Gods story from one of the other Darkin so he obviously is important to the story of the Darkin or atleast has a part that should be told. Hopefully when Riot finally gets around to releasing the Darkin female or the last unknown Darkin rather than these other champs like Yuumi or Qiyana they'll release some lore to show some more love to the Darkin and especially Rhaast.
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: Overall what did you all think of the Darkin Lore Update?
I think the Darkin are amazing. Ever since I've heard of the idea of the darkin from lore I was in love, the idea of a powerful being that is trapped in a weapon and corrupts a host is something I really enjoy as a character/monster type. The lore changing them to Shurimans is something I love, by making them ascended and once human they can not only fit into a region and the history of Runterra but they also can show what PTSD from fighting wars can do to a human mind. Aatrox is the best example of the 3 out of 5 Darkin chamions we've seen. Darkin: Ascended created from the power of the sun disc who are practically gods and warriors for Shurima. When the battle of Icathia happened these humans given godlike powers had to fight monsters who corrupt and kill, they most likely saw comrades who they've probably been close with be slaughtered, corrupted, and twisted into void creatures that they had to kill. War and very traumatic events can give people and animals PTSD and thats with our type of war with guns and bombs now imagine you're fighting monsters from another world and even though you are extremely powerful they can still go toe to toe with you. If I remember correctly the PTSD and the loss of Azir made then go insane with a higher type of PTSD. Being godlike beings they fought to try to rule the world since they had no leader to follow and give them purpose, they used ancient blood magic to give themselves armor in order to fight one another and not all of them turned into Darkin Nasus after trapping Xerath and his brother in a tomb went into hiding and Renekton was in a tomb with Xerath going insane during the whole Darkin war and probably wouldve used blood magic and such to change himself into a darkin if he was freed earlier but if he was never trapped with Xerath he would have probably just went into hiding with Nasus but who knows. Then from what we know the Aspect of change before Zoe became its host went around killing Darkin then she taught people how to contain them and presumably all of the Darkin were wiped out except for 5. Aatrox, Rhaast, Varus, and 2 other unnamed Darkin yet we know one is a girl but we have no information on the other one. Aatrox: He was a noble ascended who was a hero and protector of Shurima. After he became a Darkin he was a shadow of his former glory. Hateful, angry, depressed, has body dismorphia, and is very suicidal. He talks lots and lots about how amazing he once was and how his body is a mockery of what he was he doesnt even call it himself he distances himself from it by just calling it flesh. He hates what he has become he wants to die and he wants revenge for being trapped in a weapon after he protected the world from the horrors of the void. He talks somberly and he uses killing as a way to distract himself from what he has become. Aatrox is one of my favorite champions and all the depth he has truly shows how amazing he is. Rhaast: We dont have alot of lore about him. From what we can tell he was a ascended warrior that turned into a darkin after the Icathia battle and he was a a meaningful figure during that time since one of the Darkin in Twilight of the Gods talks about him. He was put into a scythe and left somewhere in the ground in Noxus if I recall correctly and if Aatrox's lore is something to remember being trapped in a weapon is agonizing and gives you immense suffering which can explain why Rhaast is insane and just wants to kill. He was left there for a millennia till Noxian soldiers found him and were transporting him somewhere and Kayn and another shadow warrior ambushed them and Rhaast chose Kayn to be his first host and reject others by burning through them. They both are very similar in being around violence their whole lives and the struggle is very interesting and I hope Rhaast and Kayn get more lore. Varus: A Darkin who was trapped in his bow and put in a well in the Ionian temple called Pallas. Theres a couple Vai and Valmar who fight against invading Noxians and one of them is injured (I dont remember who) and in a attempt to save them they pick up the injured one and jump into the well where the Darkin is kept not knowing that it was a Darkin in the well and then the 2 bodies are fused together and Varus has to try to fully corrupt them but they are still in his mind and he has to still fight for control and sometimes Kai or Valmar are in control. The one who was injured fuels Varus' corruption with rage and the other one is the calm that is preventing Varus from taking full control. The concept is really interesting and I have nothing wrong with a gay couple but I just wish they did something different. They should have made a VGU for Varus either as a secret until the lore and video came out and gave a new look to make him fit in with the Darkin and to give him a new voice over with Kai and Valmar and just updating him would make him look and feel much better. And secondly I would have made it a Ionian father and son, this can show how a father will protect his son and how older people are less angry and vengeful and how younger people focus more on those emotions and how it can damage them. Hes alright Im not as happy with him as I am for Rhaast or Aatrox but hes not bad. The Darkin are amazing and I just wish that RIot will release the other 2 Darkin champions and more lore instead of doing other things like making a new region. I hope the other 2 darkin are unique and interesting who show parts of Darkin that we havent seen other than anger and a love for killing plus if they put the Darkin in different regions like the Freljord or the Shadow Isles they can give them a very unique appearance and connect them to the region by having them use true ice or the mist in their kits.
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