SoSaucy (OCE)
: Git gud w/ fresh
When you hit Plat + The only supports you see are sustain supports like soraka nami sona and lulu.. The tank supports arent as common up here
: A. cait still has a decent escape she's not the easiest gank alive. B. her safety and high damage lets her fight with her team rather easily and her snaptraps make it slightly harder for people to engage on her. C. Jinx requires a windup and is not as safe as cait and most people would say she's overtunned at the moment. anything else or anything anyone disagrees with?
> [{quoted}](name=crippler38,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-23T02:53:28.710+0000) > > A. cait still has a decent escape she's not the easiest gank alive. > B. her safety and high damage lets her fight with her team rather easily and her snaptraps make it slightly harder for people to engage on her. > C. Jinx requires a windup and is not as safe as cait and most people would say she's overtunned at the moment. > > > anything else or anything anyone disagrees with? ''her high damage''' What. You know how many adcs do way more damage than caitlyn will. Unless you're stepping in traps. Also Jinxs windup yeah thats true but it only takes a second to wind up jinx.
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hn3EFqxi,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-25T04:04:17.859+0000) > > What I mean is this: > > {{champion:110}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3042}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3158}} {{item:3033}} > > Or any variation of this build which the premise of it is based off of CDR and Q spam. This build offers almost no sustained damage and only works in bot lane when you massively snowball. Yes, I know you see streamers do it and that's great but you aren't that good and I've yet to win an actual game with it. > > It's fine in mid lane, it serves a niche there. But bot lane, when we get to late game, you fall off so hard because your sustained damage is ass. Please play a real damage build, thanks. To be fair, they're just making the best of the bad situation that is playing Varus. So I guess what you really mean is "stop playing Varus".
> [{quoted}](name=PermabannedGaren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hn3EFqxi,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-09-25T04:32:13.359+0000) > > To be fair, they're just making the best of the bad situation that is playing Varus. > > So I guess what you really mean is "stop playing Varus". They cant buff Varus because his poke in lane is too good. One Q will make you recall.. I actually am kinda sad because id love to actually main varus adc but hes just too weak out of lane
: > [{quoted}](name=Chrio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=400zycWE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-09-22T22:01:42.581+0000) > > It's not a stun it's a root. Big difference you can actually auto back and do skills. > > ? I never had that issue. Show a video or something > > It's not a fuckin stun lol. > > ? She has 650 range, Jinx with rockets has 650 + AOE that hits past 650 range, Tristana late game outranges caitlyn by a small amount, When Twitch presses R he gains 300 range from 550 so he goes to 850 range compared to caitlyns 650. > > Besides Jhin, Caitlyn has the lowest attack speed Compared to any ADC. Trist has her Q, Jinx has her minigun x3 A.speed + Passive gives bonus attack speed, Ezreal has an insane attack speed passive, Twitch builds Attack speed to spam his ult, Ashe has her Q flurry, Draven has his W attack speed bonus, Sivir gains attack speed from her passive ult, Miss fortune gets an attack speed steroid from her W, Kog builds stricly attackspeed + onhit > > In my opinion, Sounds like you're having some skill issues with yourself.. Not cait the guy was talking about caitlyn being oppressive in lane because of her range, and you reply with "but but but tristana gets like 20 more range at level 18!" ok
> [{quoted}](name=NotCounter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=400zycWE,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-09-23T14:05:39.269+0000) > > the guy was talking about caitlyn being oppressive in lane because of her range, and you reply with "but but but tristana gets like 20 more range at level 18!" > > ok I was giving the attack range of all the champs that outrange her. Sick way to quote on sentence out the 20 and make it look bad tho Ok
: Am I the only one getting mauled to death by just Annie's ultimate + 1 AA from the bear?
People who defend annie make me sad. Almost in diamond and i still fuckin hate that braindead champ
: k bye
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK5zh735,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-22T23:29:44.797+0000) > > k bye {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
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Choten (NA)
: I see about the surivability and the iceborn/botrk kiting. Ez's ult has a 1.0 bonus attack damage scaling. Sure the base damage is high. Mercurial and botrk are pretty low AD items so scales maybe + 50 damage and I don't know off hand how much AD you'd get with Iceborn adding to Muramana's AD bonus.
> [{quoted}](name=Choten,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ToAiGtlZ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-22T23:03:22.285+0000) > > I see about the surivability and the iceborn/botrk kiting. Ez's ult has a 1.0 bonus attack damage scaling. Sure the base damage is high. Mercurial and botrk are pretty low AD items so scales maybe + 50 damage and I don't know off hand how much AD you'd get with Iceborn adding to Muramana's AD bonus. Yes bortk are pretty low ad items but they give attack speed and % health phy dmg so. That build does a shit ton of damage.
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Decrit (EUW)
: She is also about to get a nerf on her E, just to say one thing.
> [{quoted}](name=Decrit,realm=EUW,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=XQ5H7y4E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-22T22:43:54.517+0000) > > She is also about to get a nerf on her E, just to say one thing. Her E dmg nerf doesnt.. mean anything
: you have obviously never seen the difference in range between kali and cait.
> [{quoted}](name=ANJell 1004,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T22:14:59.714+0000) > > you have obviously never seen the difference in range between kali and cait. I used to pick kalista into cait because level 6 comes thats a dead cait.. Maybe you should just look for actual ways to beat her instead of complaining..?
Choten (NA)
: Why Blue Ezreals?
The second build is for survivability . 65 armor + QSS + bork active makes kiting way easiesr. Also ez ult has extremely high scaling, At rank 2 its 650 magic damage.
: yes. i also play kalista to do 1k damage to someone a mile away because he stepped on a trap.
> [{quoted}](name=ANJell 1004,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:50:26.819+0000) > > yes. i also play kalista to do 1k damage to someone a mile away because he stepped on a trap. You obviously never played when Kalista wasen't so nerfed.
awdaf (NA)
: She has a low win rate because she isn't perma picked, if she was played just as much as Jinx or Lucian, she would have a 53%+ win rate.
> [{quoted}](name=hide on mouse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=400zycWE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-22T16:22:22.275+0000) > > She has a low win rate because she isn't perma picked, if she was played just as much as Jinx or Lucian, she would have a 53%+ win rate. Do you naturally just spew false information? Her play rate is 18% . Now do me a favor and go look at jinxs
awdaf (NA)
: Something needs to be done about how oppressive Cait is in lane
> [{quoted}](name=hide on mouse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=400zycWE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-22T16:03:43.863+0000) > >I do have a problem with a 1.5 second stun and an AA from her that doesnt match the indicator you get, First off, I understand that she's suppose to have a long AA range because of her being like a sniper and all that, however, I still feel like her range should be reduced by 25, it would make laning a bit easier facing her. It's not a stun it's a root. Big difference you can actually auto back and do skills. > the line for the AA range will be in front of me and somehow she gets the auto off instead of actually having the line on me. ? I never had that issue. Show a video or something > Solution to her traps: Instead of a stun, give a 50/60/70/80/90% slow, that makes more sense for a "bear trap" looking thing. It's not a fuckin stun lol. > however, I still feel like her range should be reduced by 25, it would make laning a bit easier facing her. ? She has 650 range, Jinx with rockets has 650 + AOE that hits past 650 range, Tristana late game outranges caitlyn by a small amount, When Twitch presses R he gains 300 range from 550 so he goes to 850 range compared to caitlyns 650. > And, I think her AS growth per level is a bit to high compared to other champs, can we get a small reduction on that too? Besides Jhin, Caitlyn has the lowest attack speed Compared to any ADC. Trist has her Q, Jinx has her minigun x3 A.speed + Passive gives bonus attack speed, Ezreal has an insane attack speed passive, Twitch builds Attack speed to spam his ult, Ashe has her Q flurry, Draven has his W attack speed bonus, Sivir gains attack speed from her passive ult, Miss fortune gets an attack speed steroid from her W, Kog builds stricly attackspeed + onhit > In my opinion, I think these changes would balance Cait a bit more. In my opinion, Sounds like you're having some skill issues with yourself.. Not cait
: dodge the hook . cait however? dont even try to take the objective. just sit in the back like a helpess moron and hope your adc knows whats going on.
> [{quoted}](name=ANJell 1004,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:47:29.759+0000) > > dodge the hook . cait however? dont even try to take the objective. just sit in the back like a helpess moron and hope your adc knows whats going on. **_dodge the hook_** Oh ok. So we're assuming that every player is dodging hooks perfectly. Ok. Lets also assume your team didnt let cait _walk_ up to your tower and put 5 traps Fair?
: lol see what i mean.... and i never said she was oppressive or that its true she is oppressive i clearly stated that people are still complaining about it when you said they didnt
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:44:13.129+0000) > > lol see what i mean.... > > and i never said she was oppressive or that its true she is oppressive i clearly stated that people are still complaining about it when you said they didnt Caitlyn has 650 range Jinx switches to rockets and has the same range + AOE that means she can hit a minion thats 650 units away while you're 670 and it'll still hit you and whatevers around it. Cait caps out at about 1.6 attack speed. Jinx with reset gets 2.5 Caits Niche is Sieging. Shes actually **not** made for team fighting as much as people think. Yeah she put traps around your tower. Why did you guys let her beat you to the objective? If shes putting traps at your tower in lane where is your jungler? That is the easiest gank alive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:16:44.590+0000) > > oh wow really? > > well my dad can beat up your dad. > be as pissy as you want, be as irrelevant as you want. > > my point is in the title and i stand by it. > leash right or dont leash. i dont need my dad.. i can beat up you and your dad ... {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:18:56.516+0000) > > i dont need my dad.. i can beat up you and your dad ... > > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} LOL
: im sure me being a melee and not able to get near a turret late game is a skill issue rather than something to do with game mechanics. xD good one :)
> [{quoted}](name=ANJell 1004,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:41:45.134+0000) > > im sure me being a melee and not able to get near a turret late game is a skill issue rather than something to do with game mechanics. xD good one :) Tell me what melee champ is able to get near a turret besides blitz late game...
: thats because it is. shes stupid as hell early game and late game her trap cd is nonexistant as well as her zoning potential on ALL melee champs from sieging.
> [{quoted}](name=ANJell 1004,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:38:49.781+0000) > > thats because it is. shes stupid as hell early game and late game her trap cd is nonexistant as well as her zoning potential on ALL melee champs from sieging. Sounds to me like you have a skill issue :X
: not true there is a thread from bout an hour ago about how caitlyn's early game is TOO OPPRESSIVE
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaMrKRwE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:34:14.142+0000) > > not true there is a thread from bout an hour ago about how caitlyn's early game is TOO OPPRESSIVE So someone making a thread about caitlyn being oppressive automatically means its true..?
: lol @ Caitlyn haters
Nobody complains about caitlyn.. shes such an average pick now compared to jinx lucian jhin and ezreal
: because its my first season, be as much of a dbag as you want, doesnt disprove my point of how to leash correctly :)
> [{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:14:01.427+0000) > > because its my first season, be as much of a dbag as you want, doesnt disprove my point of how to leash correctly :) My brother is Plat 3 and its his first season too. You can look him up he has no S5 record... You wanna keep going kid?
: Why does nobody want to learn counters?
Just like you're complaining about people complaining..... I see something fishy
: #Supp life
> [{quoted}](name=BEAR CHIEF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8oEkOhN5,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-22T21:07:00.470+0000) > > he leaves u high N dry so u puff it chest N get the triple kill with no assistance 😂 😘wukong support Why are you so fuckin ratchet
: Ask Riot the Ghostcrawler edition
You guys need to fire your playtest team. Jinx had a 54% win rate in all Elos, Yet she gets the most fuckin unnecessary buff in the game. But according to Aesah Zac is ''fine'' and not over the line... Lol ok
: who beats yasuo 1v1 late game
Nah not really. Yasuo beats up darius late game i can vouch for that.I would say onl trynd and rengar out of that list
MATZ ab (EUW)
: LoL has the worst "matchmaking" I've ever seen in a video game
How about when someone couldnt queue with their friend because they were plat and he was silver, then the game matched him against his own friend LOL
: adcs dont owe me shit? but leash my fucking camp correctly or refuse to leash, dont fuck up one of the easiest mechanics there is. if you wanna leave, walk the fuck away, dont walk away and auto. take your ass to your fucking lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=000300010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T20:34:57.091+0000) > > adcs dont owe me shit? but leash my fucking camp correctly or refuse to leash, dont fuck up one of the easiest mechanics there is. > > if you wanna leave, walk the fuck away, dont walk away and auto. take your ass to your fucking lane. You're in silver for a reason. Stop bitching.
: it is to me. I can't stand afks, i cannot stand losing because others dont want to win. coming from a semi pro gow2 player, (arguably the most toxic community in the history of gaming) at least those assholes tried to win and accepted fault in their play, nothing like league at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T20:09:58.927+0000) > > it is to me. > > I can't stand afks, i cannot stand losing because others dont want to win. > > coming from a semi pro gow2 player, (arguably the most toxic community in the history of gaming) > at least those assholes tried to win and accepted fault in their play, nothing like league at all. My post is regarding to you saying ''idiot adcs'' Idgaf what else you have to say just stop acting like adcs owe you somethin
: from silver 2 100 lp to silver 4, 6 games with afks in the first 10 minutes, the other half someone feeding a hyper carry. yup im gonna complain :)
> [{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZePkjmz,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2016-09-22T19:14:15.880+0000) > > from silver 2 100 lp to silver 4, 6 games with afks in the first 10 minutes, the other half someone feeding a hyper carry. > > yup im gonna complain :) From P1 95 LP to P5 13 LP. Yet i don't complain more than you. ( I almost did rage uninstall tho because afks ) But still. S2 to S4 is nothing.
: PSA to idiot adcs
PSA to trash junglers like you who complain to everyone
Astôlfo (NA)
: Any deaths is "feeding" in the most literal sense. No amount of deaths is a valid amount to criticize teammates for "feeding". And intentional feeding has nothing to do with number of deaths. It's intentionally getting themselves killed by running up to enemy team or such.
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K0IJjWlg,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-09-22T18:18:05.901+0000) > > Any deaths is "feeding" in the most literal sense. > No amount of deaths is a valid amount to criticize teammates for "feeding". > And intentional feeding has nothing to do with number of deaths. It's intentionally getting themselves killed by running up to enemy team or such. There is no such thing as Int. feeding. Feeding means you're purposely giving kills . I dont know when in time it became mixed that feeding = doing bad/dying but trying whatever - Gamer since 2001 :]
: It sounds like your client was unable to maintain a good connection to the server. Since this came out of nowhere, it could have been caused due to a network routing issue specifically to the game server. We can check your route for problems, but first, we need to ensure all of your local network settings are good. To do this, I recommend using our [network guide](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752664-Troubleshooting-Connection-Issues) and ensure your settings are optimized per the listed steps. Let me know if this issue happens again.
> [{quoted}](name=Targons Blade,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=03h8F2oq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-22T18:30:16.678+0000) > > It sounds like your client was unable to maintain a good connection to the server. Since this came out of nowhere, it could have been caused due to a network routing issue specifically to the game server. We can check your route for problems, but first, we need to ensure all of your local network settings are good. To do this, I recommend using our [network guide](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752664-Troubleshooting-Connection-Issues) and ensure your settings are optimized per the listed steps. > > Let me know if this issue happens again. He needs to stop downloading Hent- Sorry. I Had to :X
: Why nerf Rightous glory yet put Kleds ult in the game
: who the hell are you talking about
> [{quoted}](name=Pteraghost1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uGnBOq3a,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-22T16:06:01.906+0000) > > who the hell are you talking about It's sarcasm. Im making a smart remark on how vel koz can use 70 abilities before running out of mana pre 6. Then when he hits 6+ His mana bar is practically there for looks.
TehNACHO (NA)
: Oh? Have you seen some of the Mage circle jerks? I mean respect to them since I know I couldn't play a Mage to save my life, but jesus christ should anything be a threat to the standard Mage it doesn't take long for it to get to the top of the "Hot" page. *Daily reminder to nerf Yasuo/Zed/whatever other Assassin is countering Mages
> [{quoted}](name=TehNACHO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1KoiN39,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-22T16:01:52.173+0000) > > Oh? Have you seen some of the Mage circle jerks? > > I mean respect to them since I know I couldn't play a Mage to save my life, but jesus christ should anything be a threat to the standard Mage it doesn't take long for it to get to the top of the "Hot" page. > > *Daily reminder to nerf Yasuo/Zed/whatever other Assassin is countering Mages I'd rather fight zed instead of any mage who builds this bullshit {{item:3027}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3001}} * im an adc main btw
Vanic998 (NA)
: An energy bar? Are we talking about the same champion? VELKOZ still uses mana.
> [{quoted}](name=Vanic998,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uGnBOq3a,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-22T16:01:31.097+0000) > > An energy bar? Are we talking about the same champion? VELKOZ still uses mana. vel koz is resourceless
Vanic998 (NA)
: VELKOZ's state right now.
What do you mean? Ever since they made vel koz resource less hes been in a pretty broken state
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Slythion (NA)
: Why Jinx Shouldn't Be Nerfed (please read before downvoting)
a 54% win rate and a over 20% play rate definitly means a nerf. I have no fucking idea what part of a extremely constant picked champ , having an extremely high win rate , AS A HYPER CARRY, is okay to you.
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: If this was the logic behind skin release and balance, Poppy would have been buffed into a good spot again.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2vEYqp6n,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-21T23:59:58.783+0000) > > If this was the logic behind skin release and balance, Poppy would have been buffed into a good spot again. She got buffed.
Astôlfo (NA)
: Riot: "We can't have people thinking we only buff for skin releases." *proceeds to nerf something completely meaningless and inconsequential* Riot: "There."
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2vEYqp6n,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-09-21T23:37:24.043+0000) > > Riot: "We can't have people thinking we only buff for skin releases." > *proceeds to nerf something completely meaningless and inconsequential* > Riot: "There." ^
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Aesah (NA)
: You mentioned his winrate is OK, of course if Zac was an insane tanky/dps/CC-bot then he would stomp every game- so I'd encourage you to analyze his weaknesses. You compared him to Nautilus/Amumu- relative to them, his CC is unreliable/shorter duration. I know I definitely am scared to even get within auto attack range as an ADC against an Amumu/Nautilus in teamfights fearing a Flash+Ult combo- Zac doesn't hold that equal threat (even though his ganks from fog are scarier). It's also important to avoid hyperbole, I mean I don't think you truly believe a full tank Zac can actually 1-shot anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Aesah,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=7yF6cZbk,comment-id=00060002,timestamp=2016-09-21T21:34:27.245+0000) > > You mentioned his winrate is OK, of course if Zac was an insane tanky/dps/CC-bot then he would stomp every game- so I'd encourage you to analyze his weaknesses. You compared him to Nautilus/Amumu- relative to them, his CC is unreliable/shorter duration. I know I definitely am scared to even get within auto attack range as an ADC against an Amumu/Nautilus in teamfights fearing a Flash+Ult combo- Zac doesn't hold that equal threat (even though his ganks from fog are scarier). > > It's also important to avoid hyperbole, I mean I don't think you truly believe a full tank Zac can actually 1-shot anything. Oh let me get this straight. Zac doesn't need nerfs but its fine for Jinx (whom had a 54% win rate ) gets buffed on her R then her E gets nerfed. Ok sick playtest team we have obv know what they're doing
: Why cant i win a single top lane with wukong?
What???????? Wukong is an extremely strong champ you guys are trippin if you're losing lane 100% of the time.
: Why does Soraka get tons of nerfs with nothing to compensate?
looooooool soraka is probably the biggest abuser of sustain in the game. Its not even like she just heals, she literally solos the adc in bot lane while healing
: Shen help and tips?
{{item:3068}} {{item:3748}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3026}} Btw shen isnt really doing too good right now as a champ. But if you wanna play him just know you're playing for the ult ganks in lane phase pretty much. Other than that you should be ulting if your teammate catchs someone Shens just not that good anymore.
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