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> [{quoted}](name=TotalSilencey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=khyt8RAg,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2019-12-04T03:01:24.913+0000)
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> This.
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> Last game of Promos... Mid Lane Syndra fed 2 early kill to Kat... "Syndra, sit under the turret, don't even farm, just STOP feeding Kat. Syndra proceeds to feed 5 more kills to Kat in a row.... smh….
unholy necromancy what have you done?
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do we really tho?
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{{champion:74}} and {{champion:420}} are the two champions you should not gank because they are more dangerous with more people in there lane.
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> [{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JnQsRNkf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-03T23:48:16.989+0000)
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> The 2 highest WR junglers in the gamae right now are WW and Nunu, 2 champs that are basically made to farm/control the jg.
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> Junglers are ganking much less than before now, and farming into dragon is the best way to play jg now.
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> OP just has no close, as does most of the boards.
close what?
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i understnad Ryze being op, but {{champion:69}} ? she's been irreverent for a while now till the conq change actually happened. I've not seen her in a single game last season.
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conq is a poor mans bandaid for {{champion:136}} current problem which is destruction of his identity,
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> [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wpHohxgP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-15T02:32:16.668+0000)
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> Why? Whats wrong with it?
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> What about the players who can ACTUALLY PLAY Aurelion now?
there are less of them there there are of the OLD Aurelion sol player base this isn't a case of old{{champion:101}} vs new{{champion:101}} where they kept his identity but just flushed out his kit.
this is a case of basicly taking a DPS mage and turning into a mediocre burst mage.
imagine if they took {{champion:1}} and turned her into an enchanter.
or made{{champion:238}} into a skerimisher instead of an assassin.
or made {{champion:202}} into a heal bot or tank or shortened all of his range to make him a close range adc and changed his ult into an attack speed steroid.
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> [{quoted}](name=Exdeus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Qbjk2Zz,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:37:06.082+0000)
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> im specifically talking about midlane, top lane is kinda a doomed lane at this point.
but you see him more top then midlane sooooo
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i agree as well, but lets face it Riot never has actually cared about {{champion:136}}
compared to the time they reverted{{champion:107}} he was a champion that actually had a ton of skins and was making them money where Sol only has two skins.
had numerous delays in release from back in 2013
and has only seen a single skin since release.
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> [{quoted}](name=Profirix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8ha6BAqE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-03T01:19:00.908+0000)
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> Balancing Aurelion Sol around conqueror is a bad idea. They should balance conqueror instead and/or give ASol better options for keystones.
i mean they are going to keep pushing the Burst mage sol aspect rather then admit they destroyed his identity. so obviously instead of fixing what they broke they were going to slap a bandaid over it.
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> [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JnQsRNkf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-03T22:48:24.779+0000)
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> well isnt that obvious? if 1 wave of minions gives as much exp as half your jungle, you just tend to gank and tax the entire wave and the next one
i know i feel like they should have seen this comming.
currently i've seen more early game gankers like
{{champion:64}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:33}}
where junglers that usually can't gank untill level 6 have all but vanished
{{champion:28}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:9}}{{champion:102}}
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> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=loMVvWT8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:46:08.000+0000)
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> The defensive options are {{item:3858}} {{item:3854}} You get a little bit of AD/AP, but mostly health, and the minion execute helps thin the wave and secure cannons when you can't be aggressive.
those are for tanks not enchanters. The coin had Ms and sustain which helped enchanters keep up with there teammates and have enough mana to stay in lane applying buffs when needed.
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pink ward would be better as it fits more with jungles play style. (and prevents lee sin from being more cheese then he already is.)
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> [{quoted}](name=Raoul,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=loMVvWT8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:40:10.276+0000)
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> great... why dont they just delete enchanters... seriously, if you dont pick Pyke, Senna or a tank, you are literally troilling at this point...
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> unless you go Janna, because well, Janna is Janna, shes a top Support since season 0...
{{champion:40}} is bae
but ya they did really gut enchanters hard even some tanks got gutted rip {{champion:44}}
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nope coin got deleted saldy. riot is clearly pushing for an attack attack attack attack meta
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> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VLF1AAv8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:32:31.378+0000)
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> And they gutted him there too
im not saying they didn't gut him there, but i am saying he shouldn't have been turned into a toplaner in the first place.
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> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8KBQJKIn,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-12-01T22:56:14.652+0000)
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> Try to find 1 or 2 damage+hp items that works with your champ's kit. I find that {{item:3078}} works okay on tanks with 1 low CD skill. I'd even build it on sej because her W is spammable and the AS helps with her E.
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> I kind of wish that {{item:3170}} was added back to SR for tanks.
{{item:3170}} should be brought to the rift now that TT its a really good item for tanks and would help with the current terrible itemization that is AP brusers.
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6 seconds is a lot in a SR game. also Op you built the wrong item
if your trying to shut down a azir who is dps get{{item:3194}} not{{item:3001}}
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> [{quoted}](name=TheFailingMonkey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8KBQJKIn,comment-id=001e,timestamp=2019-12-03T04:58:11.721+0000)
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> Legend has it, there was a group of mage items {{item:3165}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3020}} that gave ridiculous magic pen despite costing very little. And despite these items offering no mana whatsoever a "core mage first item{{item:3285}} {{item:3040}} " solved all those pesky mana issues allowing mages to spam without a second thought. So be warned, tank players for your itemization against mages are f&cking garbage.
objection there is currently more armor pen there there is magic pen
{{item:3071}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3033}} {{item:3181}} {{item:3179}} {{item:3142}}
{{item:3036}}
which is why assassins are stupidly broken right now.
most the time the reason a mage end up being strong is because the tank is to busy building armor to counter all of that armor pen.
i rarely if ever see a tank build{{item:3001}} or{{item:3194}}
i've only ever seen the few tanks build{{item:3065}} and that's only for the hp regen.
the best way to fix this instead of gutting the mages would be to
a: not give out armor pen like candy.
b: make the other MR items more appealing. (which they are, but people don't read descriptions on what MR item fits what situation.)
c: don't get mad at a {{champion:111}} or other ap based tanks that builds {{item:3102}}
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> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a8FxBXoN,comment-id=000e00000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T12:59:31.540+0000)
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> I have literally never seen or heard of **anybody** getting a survey while in a match, unless it got emailed to them (which hardly counts, since the survey itself is still occurring outside of the game).
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> If it's actually happened to someone, that seems...fairly questionable. Nobody should be taking time out of a live game to fill out a goddamn survey.
you often get surveys after a game has ended. how do you not know this?
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> [{quoted}](name=csmsuper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gwahBz9Q,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-03T16:11:39.229+0000)
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> lol bro, you know that you can qss nocturne ult right? Or if you have banshee's veil up when he ults then you wont lose vision.
huh i actually didn't know that thanks.
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> [{quoted}](name=SaltyPotatoJhin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JJPXYTq3,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:14:15.351+0000)
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> That's true, I just don't see why they didn't have wards as standard for jungler Items I do miss using tracker knife
honestly that would be neet if jungle items came with warding function specifically pink wards
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> [{quoted}](name=SaltyPotatoJhin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JJPXYTq3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:07:38.967+0000)
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> I don't see how that's Logical, with the new support Items you actually get over 3k more gold over all on the new support items, but yes the reason why they do that is because they don't like there adc which propaply you being toxic towards them or they simply don't care
i don't play adc so doesn't affect me. it does affect team wards.
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> [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mVTEm8fK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-03T17:26:41.875+0000)
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> He is a walking ball of stats that Riot keeps relevant for whatever reason.
that's easily answered look how many skins he has. that usually tells you what champion are loved by riot.
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it's only been 3 months game dev time that is like 2 hours.
a lot of games you get announcement trailers for near the start of the year don't come out till near end of year.
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{{champion:13}} and {{champion:8}} are the two champions that make people think ap items shouldn't have HP.
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> [{quoted}](name=Exdeus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Qbjk2Zz,comment-id=0002000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T18:03:48.226+0000)
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> maybe not Ahri but you get the idea
{{champion:61}} has shorter range then Ryze last i checked.
{{champion:101}} top lane is a death sentence because of turret spacing and xerath's ludicrously slow movement speed. if you get ganked while your near the river your basically fubar if your up against a competent jungler.
{{champion:90}} actually has pritty bad range your clearly thinking of his space aids that bounce off minions, but ryze again is TANKY and malz's space aids are easily avoidable.
{{champion:38}} is basically perma banned in high elo so good luck actually getting him.
{{champion:134}} range is also pritty bad unless your counter her stun which has a long ass cooldown.
{{champion:45}} has a lot of cooldowns, but of the ones you listed hes the only one that has a snowballs chance (because he snowballs infinitely.)
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> [{quoted}](name=Exdeus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Qbjk2Zz,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-12-03T18:10:54.272+0000)
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> Again, feel like there is a double standard. Why arnt we complain about {{champion:51}} being broken then? She has incredibly high range, safe laning phase, good waveclear and can one shot you late game from a very high range. But yet we complain about ryze because we were stupid enough to get into his spell range (which isnt very high btw)
because she doesn't have a bucket load of hp and tankyness on top of spell range and damage?
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> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8ha6BAqE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-03T00:14:20.522+0000)
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> https://twitter.com/MarkYetter/status/1201640617203265541
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> Here’s the source before anyone asks.
that ones out of date?
https://www.surrenderat20.net/2019/12/122-pbe-update-tentative-balance-changes.html
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXmmQg03EEM/XeW90AVsbrI/AAAAAAABcXg/WugTaWYza4YtG7sJzCp0jmlhJuKj8DuPACLcBGAsYHQ/s320/EK02cYzVUAABPX4.jpg
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it's official riot hates {{champion:136}}
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he was made to be a support in the first place.
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> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rkGaRMTQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:24:36.934+0000)
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> Stop queuing with people who have higher MMRs than you.
"don't play with friends."
you heard it here folks.
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because lee gets buffs but never nerfs making him stupidly broken and any time he gets a justifiable nerf the entire lee sin base makes a big fuss over it.
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looks like yuumi got {{champion:136}} 'd
we "reworked her." list a bunch of nerfs.
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ya the skermisher one is basically a joke especially thes "lack High-End burst damage" and "lack reliable ways of closing in on high-priority targets"
with the way team fights and minions are designed.
{{champion:157}} almost always has a way to close in on high-priority targets
and {{champion:11}} is basically built for that.
and both have stupids amount of burst damage.
also i thought Riven's entire kit was built around a burst of damage why is she a skermisher when she has 4 dashes? shield dash, and blade combo dash.
Jax can ward jump like {{champion:64}}
honestly at this point skermisher should be Has high end burst damage and reliable ways of closing in on high priority targets.
rather then "lacks."
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with how annoying the BE system is i don't want to have to spend it all on getting runes again. i do agree that the masteries should comeback, but i say good riddens to the old runes being removed.
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how do you select your two weapons? or do you just switched between all of them.
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better then the justic er i mean victorious aatrox and pulsefire thresh at lest.
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meanwhile i am a silver player and all i've been fighting are golds and plats.
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yes please i am so SO VERY VERY sick of the dull SR music.
they have such good music with there trailers
from Rise, pentakillm K/D/A, light and shadow, phoenix.
so why can we listen to any of it during the entire rift.
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as long as it doesn't affect there skin sales or esports riot won't care.
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> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=omhFpaVy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-25T23:01:16.643+0000)
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> All they have said they will be adding are more chromas for the two skins. I would love to see other rare skins added there as well, but I guess only time will tell.
and that's my problem if they want more people to act honorably then they need more incentive then two champions that not everyone plays.
this is basically "unless your a WW main or Twitch main. don't worry about being an honorable player."
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