TheCrazyBoy (EUNE)
: Be happy isn't permanent ,quit now still you have the account ,cause after the 14 days ban ,slightest thingh get you banned , so much chances are gived to you by riot to Reform.. . My advice , play some other account , and if you play just to unlock your honor , without using chat at all ... , and then just move on new account and when your punishment level reset ,get back to this account and play back. Don't do my mistakes i did in life ,save yourself son , they are so madness that , you get 140 years ban for not even insulting someone , just for some sentences which wouldn't be in 1000 years toxic ... , just save yourself and play another account... ,until you learn to handle the stress from this game. (nvm just now seen you are lv 18...)
I mean not really bud, but ok whatever you say :)))) have a nice day
Kei143 (NA)
: Well, good luck with your appeal. Personally I don't see the punishment to be in error, but Rioters might see other things to will deem it to be an error. If you've got other questions about how the system works, feel free to give us a shout.
ight if i was toxic to you sorry you were really helpful thank you.
Kei143 (NA)
: 1-5 recent games means that up to 5 recent games can be shown. If it passes the "recent" timeframe, the reform card won't show it. I agree the severity in this game is low, which is why I pointed out to you that your punishment is due to your consistency of mild toxicity instead. You can submit a ticket to Riot support and ask them about how many recent games you were validly reported. If they don't see a history of consistency of mild toxicity, they will change the punishment. Afterall, there is 0.1% chance the system was in error. In regards to WW, just because they are bad, doesn't always make him a troll.
it might have been a system error bud i can ss the thing man xD
Kometto (NA)
: manth1sgamesucks: reported manth1sgamesucks: can you report the janna plz manth1sgamesucks: DONT CARE IF THATS HIS NAME manth1sgamesucks: I LIKE HIS NAME manth1sgamesucks: I DONT LIKE YOU manth1sgamesucks: yea janna mid is smart manth1sgamesucks: xD manth1sgamesucks: and your calling namers manth1sgamesucks: names manth1sgamesucks: obv manth1sgamesucks: ik manth1sgamesucks: i misclicked manth1sgamesucks: or typed manth1sgamesucks: i never did manth1sgamesucks: shut up and play the game manth1sgamesucks: xD manth1sgamesucks: sure manth1sgamesucks: you dont have to manth1sgamesucks: no manth1sgamesucks: im d3 in solo duo manth1sgamesucks: ;) manth1sgamesucks: your mad manth1sgamesucks: xD manth1sgamesucks: reported manth1sgamesucks: not going top manth1sgamesucks: he is mad manth1sgamesucks: he is flaming manth1sgamesucks: ? manth1sgamesucks: i cant do anything pre 6 manth1sgamesucks: bruh manth1sgamesucks: BRUH manth1sgamesucks: you dont know this game manth1sgamesucks: noob? manth1sgamesucks: ? manth1sgamesucks: can you report ww manth1sgamesucks: pl manth1sgamesucks: plz manth1sgamesucks: he is trolling us now manth1sgamesucks: THANK YOU manth1sgamesucks: i can carry manth1sgamesucks: 1/5 manth1sgamesucks: xD manth1sgamesucks: knows the game huh manth1sgamesucks: i can tell manth1sgamesucks: agreed manth1sgamesucks: agreed manth1sgamesucks: how so manth1sgamesucks: yea your telliong us to stfu manth1sgamesucks: and i mean manth1sgamesucks: ik manth1sgamesucks: lol manth1sgamesucks: should we ff 15? manth1sgamesucks: wait we cant manth1sgamesucks: ww wont let us manth1sgamesucks: lol manth1sgamesucks: LOL manth1sgamesucks: well i mean we dont have a top lane manth1sgamesucks: so its kinda 4v5 manth1sgamesucks: he is fed manth1sgamesucks: lol manth1sgamesucks: LOL manth1sgamesucks: agreeeeedddddddd manth1sgamesucks: ye ww for the carry lol manth1sgamesucks: i got u manth1sgamesucks: :) manth1sgamesucks: agreed manth1sgamesucks: get banned? manth1sgamesucks: we can tell manth1sgamesucks: that is what will always make you silver ^^ Above is what i found toxic. Some are most sensitive, but that's just me. So, diamond 3 solo / duo player, you've managed to be chat restricted twice, and banned once on a level 18 account. Nothing more can i say, your attitude must change if you still want to play the game (without having to create new accounts over and over, ending up with them all banned resulting ip ban as well). Also, stop telling people to report, one report is nothing different to 9 other reports. It only slows the system down. Typing more than you playing is also considered griefing. A 23 minute game with about 40+ chat means 1 chat per 30 seconds is insanely huge. Also, if you're really a smurf, you should understand what is toxic and what is not, and not to expect low elo players to play as good as you are. **After all, you're the diamond smurf am i right?**
Tele II (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=manth1sgamesucks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XHfaKQ0Y,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-25T21:52:15.336+0000) > > ok...ok...ok i didnt want to have to say anything here but half the people are on the ww side of this cause they cant see what everyone typed and what happened in the game cause you dont watch the game play. You all would understand if you were able to see his chat logs too and if you watched the game play. Sorry I have a bad habit of editing my post 3 to 9 times after I post it lmao. So re read it, and you'll see im not taking anyones side. And I'm not trying to judge you at all as a person. I just try to explain to help people understand how they broke the rules, in a pragmatic, impersonal way. Though tbh, I also have a bad habit of maybe throwing in a personal thing here or there lul.
im not calling you out...you are being reasonable i respect it.
Tele II (NA)
: Yeah sorry, youre asking for reports and calling people useless. (Saying its 4v5 and you dont have a top lane, implying someone on your team is useless). I think you would definitely benefit from playing a more socially driven game. You seem to really like chatting with everyone, and the way you do it is very antagonizing and annoying tbh. You may be a great guy, but Riots rules arent about being a good person, its about fostering a positive environment for players. You're very negative in game, constantly talking about reporting people, saying shit like I DONT LIKE YOU, and stirring the flames. Remember, if someone else is breaking the rules, you are expected to report them and let Riot handle it. Not to announce to everyone who you are accusing of what and berate/threaten them with reports. (You dont know this game. Noob? Thats why youll always be silver, for example.) I know they were fucking with you, im not saying you just attack people for no reason. But according to the rules, there are NO stipulations that allow you to break them. So if someone is flaming you first, report them and let Riot handle it. And feel free to mute if you want.
ok...ok...ok i didnt want to have to say anything here but half the people are on the ww side of this cause they cant see what everyone typed and what happened in the game cause you dont watch the game play. You all would understand if you were able to see his chat logs too and if you watched the game play.
Kei143 (NA)
: So ... lets have you understand the system from a holistic point of view. --- The purpose for you to ask for reports is because you think the system punishes based on report counts. Thus you asking for reports is essentially threatening other's account, aka a harassment. In reality, the system treats 1 report and 9 reports the same way. All a report does is to request the system to review the game, the result of the review for that game is the same regardless of how many reports was recieved within that game. More reports will not cause a player to be punished any likelier nor faster. So therefore, it's useless to ask for reports. --- The passive aggressiveness was more pointed towards how you just kept writing your top lane off, saying its 4v5, you don't have a top laner and how we won't let you ff. Trolling means that people are having the intention of losing the game, while I dont have access to your game, building bad doesn't always mean someone is trolling, it could mean they are just bad or tilted and making bad decisions. If you feel he was trolling, just report him and let Riot do the review. No need to accuse him of anything. --- From your replies, I can see that you are only focused on thinking this was the only game that got you punished. While the reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone. The system punishes based on consistency x severity, meaning you can be punished for 1 game of extreme toxicity or many many games of mild toxicity. Think of it like a health bar (or tension meter) in music games. When you hit the note at an off beat, your tension meter increases. When you completely miss a note, the meter increases by alot. When you hit the note at good timings, it reduces the meter. Riot's behavior system works the same way, as in we all have a toxicity meter attached to our accounts. When players are mildly toxic, it goes up a tad. When people use hate speech, it pretty much fills up the meter. of course, clean games reduce the meter. This game's severity is pretty low, so it tells me you have a habit of similar behavior. So even if you go to Riot support and try to appeal, they will see your behavioral history and probably decide that the punishment is deserved. The best case scenario for you is that they see a long period of reformed behavior, but suddenly a toxicity spike. If they see that, they may reduce the punishment to a chat restriction instead. However, seeing that you didn't know that calling for reports and accusing others of trolling is considered a harassment, I find it unlikely that you'll have a long periods of games with clean behavior.
so alot of people are mentioning the fact i was being passive aggressive... and for that i only had 1 chat log i could see. So i mean i wasn't from 1-5 games i was 1 game that got me banned. And the things i was saying weren't even that bad tell me not....i don't think you know this but look at my match history on this account and look at the last game i played...look at the ww. He was useless he would jump into the team and get 1 hot cause he had no sustain when it came to team fights. That's the reason for which i said "4v5". Just so you know....like i said so you know what your talking about watch the game and you'll see from my perspective
: u typed the words report, gg ez, noob, system triggering words towards others in an offensive way. I think the system can detect whether you use those words in a toxic way so people accidentally using those words will not be harmed.
> [{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XHfaKQ0Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-25T20:55:58.555+0000) > > u typed the words report, gg ez, noob, system triggering words towards others in an offensive way. I think the system can detect whether you use those words in a toxic way so people accidentally using those words will not be harmed. thank you for pointing this out...but do you think if I were to get into contact with a riot employee could get my account back before the 14 day ban is over and really explain what happened and the fact I really wasn't using them in a bad manner but more of banter and the system sees that those are words people usually use to bm.
Kei143 (NA)
: What got you a 14-day ban; the system is a ladder progression punishment system. There are 4 tiers of punishment an each time you get punished, you progress up the ladder. The 4 tiers are; 1. 10 game chat restriction 2. 25 game chat restriction 3. 14-day ban 4. Permaban So I'm guessing you've been punished with a 25 game chat restriction before. So since the system sees your consistent behaviour without change, you are considered a repeat offender and escalated your punishment to a 14-day ban. What got you a punishment; What got you a punishment; Asking for report, defeatist attitude, kda and rank shaming, accusations of trolling, passive aggressiveness. What is considered toxic in these chatlogs; * Asking for report, * defeatist attitude, * kda and rank shaming, * accusations of trolling, * passive aggressiveness.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XHfaKQ0Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-25T20:26:02.763+0000) > > What got you a 14-day ban; the system is a ladder progression punishment system. There are 4 tiers of punishment an each time you get punished, you progress up the ladder. The 4 tiers are; > > 1. 10 game chat restriction > 2. 25 game chat restriction > 3. 14-day ban > 4. Permaban > > So I'm guessing you've been punished with a 25 game chat restriction before. So since the system sees your consistent behaviour without change, you are considered a repeat offender and escalated your punishment to a 14-day ban. > > What got you a punishment; > What got you a punishment; Asking for report, defeatist attitude, kda and rank shaming, accusations of trolling, passive aggressiveness. > > What is considered toxic in these chatlogs; > > * Asking for report, > * defeatist attitude, > * kda and rank shaming, > * accusations of trolling, > * passive aggressiveness. I really appreciate the help...but when it comes to accusations of trolling you can check the game play and you will see that he was playing and building badly after a certain time period. Also, how is asking to report a toxic player a banable offense. For how is telling someone "that is the reason you will stay silver" rank shamming whenever he said in chat " I don't care anymore and ill do whatever I want". I was telling him that is one of the reason why he will be lower elo cause he gives up and he gets mad in normal games. When it comes to "Defeatist attitude I was saying I could carry the game and I said ff 15 cause I didn't want to get upset talking to the ww and getting banned like this. Also when it came to showing signs of "passive aggressiveness" I only told him im not going to be going top because when you play jg you never gank a behind lane and he was talking bad on me and my mid lane. But again I appreciate the help like I said but this is what I have to elaborate on what I said earlier and explain more about the game and why I said the things and did the things I did.
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