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If I had a dollar for every time this idea is suggested, I could buy Riot and make the change myself.
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All of the run around fast Juggernauts are like that. Mundo, Singed, and Garen all feel at least somewhat troll whenever you play them.
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I guess I'm not the only one that has noticed this.
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Jax's ult is 80 seconds at rank 1. Veigar is 120. Vayne is 100. Twitch is 90. Yasuo is 80. Late game champs having super long CD's on their ults early simply isn't a thing, and the fact that they're doing it here is utter nonsense.
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This game has an endless amount of anti-melee tools, but god forbid one decent anti-ranged one shows up that isn't an enormous range gap closer, untargetability, or stealth.
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Not only do they not think they're doing anything wrong, they see themselves as the noble, enlightened ones fighting against the horde of intolerant people. You might even say they picture themselves as warriors of social justice.
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> [{quoted}](name=Verxint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qOY0vRWc,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-02T02:06:35.357+0000)
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> Playing against him involves hoping he makes a mistake, not actually outplaying him.
This lie is why low elo players can't handle this champion. Playing passive and letting Yasuo dicate the pace of the lane is how you lose to him. I don't know where people got this idea that they're helpless against Yasuo 1v1, but it's just not true with most champs.
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The only problem with Yasuo's laning is that a lot of lower elo players can't handle it. You simply don't see higher elo players complaining about facing Yasuo in lane because their mechanics are good enough to abuse his counterplay.
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> [{quoted}](name=Douglas Funnie,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tRzRyUXz,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-09-02T02:28:29.962+0000)
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> Yes, he is an official employee at RiotGames.
He's also the man responsible for the disaster known as Azir. How he still has a job after releasing the most hilariously overloaded champion ever is a mystery to me.
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It's impressive, but try doing it when you're not full build by 30 minutes.
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> [{quoted}](name=Teridax68,realm=NA,application-id=ELUpwER8,discussion-id=tnjHNo4A,comment-id=001f,timestamp=2018-08-24T11:25:25.318+0000)
> And as for Yasuo:
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> * No longer generates Flow.
> * Resolve removed (no more shield).
> * **W - Wind Wall:** Yasuo throws out a wall of wind which lasts for 0.5 seconds, becoming untargetable to all effects that hit it from the other side. Wind Wall's cooldown is reduced by 1 second for every 55 / 50 / 45 / 40 / 35 units Yasuo travels. Has a 40-second static cooldown (i.e. unaffected by CDR).
> * The idea here is that Yasuo would only have one defense, namely Wind Wall, that this defense wouldn't double up as utility (he already does enough), and that he wouldn't be able to just passively deploy it in lane and deny the enemy laner for a prolonged amount of time (he doesn't want to stay too long in the same place anyway). In exchange, he'd be able to access this defense far more often if he keeps moving, though he'd still have more downtime in lane.
How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you what you suggest makes a champion basically unplayable?
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To answer your initial question: To punish teams that pick too much CC in lieu of damage.
I won't bother responding to the rest of what you said given that it's just saltiness from losing to a jungle Mundo right before you posted. Your team comp was absolute trash against a Mundo and was made even worse by the fact that your Lucian built Stormrazer instead of Botrk; no wonder you couldn't kill him.
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There is nothing Riot could do to preserve that makes Yasuo enjoyable to the people that play him and also satisfy the people that hate him.
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Blitz Thresh Leona Nautilus Braum Karma Brand Nami etc. It's really not that hard if you play the lane properly and have a competent support.
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> [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=001500000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-07T20:06:58.977+0000)
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> Have you ever landed all 3 on the same target? Now was that player a good player?
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> You cannot answer yes to both of these questions. That's why Morde is garbage all his damage is tied to his useless Q
Yes and Yes. It's called having a support to help me out.
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Enough with that nonsense. All old Morde did was spam E off cooldown and shove lane nonstop until he got ganked. It was easily some of the most 1 dimensional gameplay that has ever existed in this game.
As for his Q, I have no idea what you're talking about. I play him bot lane where he belongs, and I land my 3rd Q all the time no problem.
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> [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2018-08-07T13:57:11.778+0000)
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> I mean originally, you know, the good Morde.
There was never a good Morde. There was the originial, terrible Morde, and the still pretty bad but at least has an interesting niche current Morde.
As for his role change, lots of champs have their role change over time. If you ask me, Mordekaiser was pretty much the perfect champion to get this treatment given how limiting the defining features of his kit are.
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No, they don't. There's a reason that no one who plays just a bit of Yasuo complains about him.
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> [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-07T00:46:05.159+0000)
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He was supposed to be a top laner
Well no wonder you're so confused. Morde's winrate as a bot laner, his designed role, is 53.5%. His overall winrate would probably be a fair bit higher if people stopped playing him offrole.
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How does that address what I just said? The chroma will still be locked to the bundle only, which is a scummy thing to do.
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She actually has 46 Lethality. 18+18+10=46. Against a target with no armor and no health, that shit is gonna hurt.
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He doesn't even have a 50% winrate in solo q and he's one of the easiest champs in the game. Maybe you're the problem.
And please, this couldn't have been more of a salt thread if you tried. You just played Pantheon top against Mundo, you didn't have ignite, and you managed 56 CS in 22 minutes compared to Mundo's 162 CS. Yes, you're definitely the problem. And you created a "Nerf Heimerdinger" thread after you got trashed by him the game before? Get real dude.
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70% slow on predator? Good lord. I hope it lasts for .1 second because otherwise that sounds completely insane. And you want to give aftershock champs even more CC? Yikes.
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You're about 2 months late OP. Even pros don't care about Mundo anymore.
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50% total AS slow Jesus Christ. That's as strong as a fully leveled Malphite E and I feel like I can barely auto when my AS is that slow.
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She has the highest winrate in the game and a 10% pickrate.
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She's unpopular, and unpopular champs are allowed to be OP as long as they do so while staying under the radar. People are starting to notice, so expect nerfs soon.
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The 3rd resolve row sucks because the first 2 rows are broken. That's called balance.
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You mean like buffing Mundo's ult? That turned out great!
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Playing Yasuo against morons is easy. Playing him against people who actually fight back is much harder.
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The problem with resolve is that it functions in such a way that it actually enables more aggression instead of just making you safer. Notice how the biggest abusers of Resolve have been aggressive champions like Leona, who use Resolve to offset their aggressive kit.
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AD champs don't have an item that has 100 AD and increases their total AD by 35%. You don't want to live in a world where such an item exists.
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Woman who can't handle criticism uses accusation of sexism to attempt to silence her detractors? Color me shocked.
Neither her or her friend should have lost their jobs over it though. We can't expect everyone to not be stupid all the time, even at their jobs.
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Yasuo and Zoe don't use any of those items. Your move, OP.
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You're not wrong, but it's probably a good philosophy for Riot to have. Letting a new champ or VGU settle into obscurity so soon after being introduced isn't good for the game, or for business.
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> I want a toggle for this immediately so I can leave it on forever
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> Get that simplified shit outta here
I saw a Rioter comment on Reddit today about just such a toggle.
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> [{quoted}](name=Killbeam,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1fbwipYt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-27T11:28:41.770+0000)
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> I was wondering this too. It makes no sense that this is only for Aatrox, and that there is no way to turn it off (as far as i can tell)
I imagine that Riot will eventually change all ability descriptions to be like this so that the basic text is just a description of the ability and holding shift will show detailed information. Holding shift for other champions also opens another window; it just has the exact same information as the first window.
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Hmm, didn't know. I guess Stormrazer is super good then.
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Like others have said: The Rengar was 10/2 at the time of the clip, a mere 19 minutes into the game. The counterplay here is not to feed Rengar an extra 3000 gold by 19 minutes. Almost any bruiser or assassin could have killed you instantly with that big of a lead that early in the game.
On an unrelated note, I can't help but wonder why stormrazer on Rengar. His first auto out of ult is a crit anyway, so I think going stormraider actually makes his first auto weaker since the stormraider crit does less damage than a normal crit.
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They said at the time that his identity didn't work in 1v1 environments, so they reworked him to go bot lane.
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> [{quoted}](name=AbyssmalHydra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bnA1sTJA,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-24T04:42:37.670+0000)
> but {{champion:82}} gets a rework no one wanted and that everyone asked to get reverted, but are left to rot for 3 years as an absolute mess despite how vehemently it was disliked whilst morde bot mains abuse it for freelo by getting carried by their butt-buddy supports while saying 'hes fine no work needed',
You mean the people who play Morde where he's designed to go enjoy him the most? Fancy that. Sorry old Morde mains, but solo lane Morde pre-rework was one of the least interesting, least interactive champions ever. Riot didn't want to change his identity, so they stuck him bot with a support so he'd have to play around his support instead of just out stating people in solo lanes. Sorry old Morde mains, but your champ fantasy was toxic and needed to be changed.
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They recently broke Mundo without buffing his damage.
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Not to mention that IE has a far worse build path, Zeal got nerfed, PD got nerfed, and even brawlers glove got nerfed. It's a bad time to be a Yasuo.
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OP clearly never played against a really good Graves, Nidalee, or Kindred back in season 6. They get the tiniest lead and you don't get to farm your own jungle anymore, let alone scuttles.
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Flipside: I main Yasuo and have a 53% winrate on him, but I also play a fair amount of Vel'koz and have a 64% winrate on him. Ban Yasuo at your peril.
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