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: > i'm interested in what you said about every offence being evaluated for severity. In your most recent penalty, you were giving your teammates shit, telling them how to play, telling your team you were going to quit at 6 mins, and telling people who are doing poorly that they are 'inting'. These things are not acceptable. They were probably evaluated at a chat restriction severity, but you receive penalties VERY frequently. You punched your 'frequent offender' card at the coffee shop one too many times. The intent of these light penalties is to show you what is unacceptable so you can change your behavior. You proved that you had no intention of changing. So .. you were given a final chance with a 14-day warning and told the next would be a perma-ban. You didn't change behavior then either, so the next was a perma-ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xAAcRMo4,comment-id=000700110000,timestamp=2018-09-24T18:29:33.769+0000) > > In your most recent penalty, you were giving your teammates shit, telling them how to play, telling your team you were going to quit at 6 mins, and telling people who are doing poorly that they are 'inting'. > > These things are not acceptable. > > They were probably evaluated at a chat restriction severity, but you receive penalties VERY frequently. You punched your 'frequent offender' card at the coffee shop one too many times. The intent of these light penalties is to show you what is unacceptable so you can change your behavior. You proved that you had no intention of changing. So .. you were given a final chance with a 14-day warning and told the next would be a perma-ban. You didn't change behavior then either, so the next was a perma-ban. Sorry I asked. Sometimes you feel empty when you continually fail, it's not easy to develop a passion for learning and grow when the system only points out how many times you punch your card at the coffee shop and shows you your worth. I did try and will continue to work towards bettering myself for me and the community but the system needs to look in the mirror not out the window because it's not the support that will get me there. Thanks for your time.
: > [{quoted}](name=sneakers7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2018-09-22T17:43:49.876+0000)i kept my words G rated because i didn't want to continue behaving inappropriately. Unfortunately it's not about the words you use (save hate speech) -- it's about the content. I can say "Holy fuck. That play was the shit!" and be just fine. I can't say "You're a stupid jerk and I hope you fall down a well," even though those words are all G-rated. >with the amount of games played since 2012 i would have hoped it would have been taken into account when addressing if i should be permanently banned since its the smallest fraction of negativity. Total games played do not contribute, because it's possible for behavior to change. What matters is patterns of behavior within a timeframe, not the past X years of behavior. If I started calling everyone trash in my next game I'd expect to be banned quickly, despite 8 seasons without a punishment. >if i had no previous history i'm not sure if i would have even received the 10 game chat restriction because it was so borderline. It *might* have earned a chat restriction. More likely it would have pushed you closer to one rather than triggering it by itself. You're held to a higher standard if you have received more warnings though, because you need to prove reform. > do you know if there is any plans for the future to allow players to redeem themselves or prove that there behavior has changed... At this time I am unaware of any specific plans to do this. It's always possible, of course. >i honestly thought that when i was punished for chat it was because i had used one of the follow: profanity, acronyms of profanity, hate speech, racial slurs, derogatory comments towards unskilled players, etc. Unfortunately it's not just this. Excessive complaining, passive-aggression, veiled insults, rank-shaming, or unsportsmanlike behavior can result in penalties as well. >thanks for taking the time to look at my post and reply as well i know i commented on another thread and am glad you saw and looked into my post, much appreciated. Any time!
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000f00000000,timestamp=2018-09-22T17:50:35.377+0000) > > Unfortunately it's not about the words you use (save hate speech) -- it's about the content. I can say "Holy fuck. That play was the shit!" and be just fine. I can't say "You're a stupid jerk and I hope you fall down a well," even though those words are all G-rated. > > Total games played do not contribute, because it's possible for behavior to change. What matters is patterns of behavior within a timeframe, not the past X years of behavior. If I started calling everyone trash in my next game I'd expect to be banned quickly, despite 8 seasons without a punishment. > > It *might* have earned a chat restriction. More likely it would have pushed you closer to one rather than triggering it by itself. You're held to a higher standard if you have received more warnings though, because you need to prove reform. > > At this time I am unaware of any specific plans to do this. It's always possible, of course. > > Unfortunately it's not just this. Excessive complaining, passive-aggression, veiled insults, rank-shaming, or unsportsmanlike behavior can result in penalties as well. > > Any time! thanks i'll keep an eye out for opportunities to redeem myself and start an account fresh and work out playing it for a while with no reports so if i am ever given a chance i can show that I've changed. i'll have to keep in mind through my progression that any form of negativity is punishable. Hoping for the best, thanks and good luck with the forums and the game!{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: > [{quoted}](name=sneakers7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3WUlVVrA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-22T17:09:33.111+0000) > > sticking with the same few champs or the same role can help you master a playstyle that can help you grow. i personally really got into kha zix and jungling and was able to climb by solely playing it. also in gold if you lose ur promos the next time your up for promos you get a free win so eventually you will climb! dont psych yourself out you got this. GL! Im top main for 2 seasons and I have champions im playing a lot. But it does not help at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Plus UItraaaaaaa,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3WUlVVrA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-22T17:32:52.515+0000) > > Im top main for 2 seasons and I have champions im playing a lot. But it does not help at all. with the meta kind of skewed right now i would suggest trying to play one of your top lane champs in the mid or jungle role. when you push your cs wave up to the enemy turret look to either roam top or bot or invade with the jungle to counter jungle. the trick is you always want to be looking to do something and not backing just because you can grab 1 item.
: >After receiving my 2 week ban i noticed that message saying any acts will get you permanently banned henceforth. This is accurate. It takes a few months of good behavior to decrease a penalty, so we'll take a look and see if this log had that. > sneakers7: im done > sneakers7: ff > sneakers7: solo bc of you Giving up (or threatening to give up) is not okay, not is blaming your team (let alone one person in particular). > sneakers7: clearly ur inting > sneakers7: 0/2 in lane loses first turret than comes mid to grief cs from me > sneakers7: yea gg See above. > sneakers7: imagine playing a team game and trolling your teamates > sneakers7: why play? Passive aggression towards the same individual. > sneakers7: and she comes into my lane after she fed bot and lost turret > sneakers7: to steal my lane freeze > sneakers7: yea have fun with your L > sneakers7: why u griefing > sneakers7: noin stop > sneakers7: whats ur problem > sneakers7: all game this kai steals my lane freeze and my blue buffs Passive aggression, blame-placing, and needless negativity. ------------------------------------------------ This log is borderline, and I understand how you might be surprised it earned you a punishment, but this behavior isn't a good indication that you've improved. You spend the entire game complaining about, chastising, or being passive-aggressive towards a teammate, and that's not the sort of goods sportsmanlike behavior or good teamwork that League asks of you, *especially* if you had a 14-day ban. I'd say this behavior was perhaps just not as far over the line as some, but I do think it was over the line and, after a 14-day ban, that unfortunately earns a permanent ban.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-09-22T17:25:34.417+0000) > > This is accurate. It takes a few months of good behavior to decrease a penalty, so we'll take a look and see if this log had that. > > Giving up (or threatening to give up) is not okay, not is blaming your team (let alone one person in particular). > > See above. > > Passive aggression towards the same individual. > > Passive aggression, blame-placing, and needless negativity. > > ------------------------------------------------ > > This log is borderline, and I understand how you might be surprised it earned you a punishment, but this behavior isn't a good indication that you've improved. You spend the entire game complaining about, chastising, or being passive-aggressive towards a teammate, and that's not the sort of goods sportsmanlike behavior or good teamwork that League asks of you, *especially* if you had a 14-day ban. > > I'd say this behavior was perhaps just not as far over the line as some, but I do think it was over the line and, after a 14-day ban, that unfortunately earns a permanent ban. i totally understand the chat was negative, but it was a result of retaliation. i know that 2 wrongs don't make a right but fully aware of the punishments i kept my words G rated because i didn't want to continue behaving inappropriately. i did start the game praising my teammate as well and my previous games since the ban have praiseworthy comments as well. with the amount of games played since 2012 i would have hoped it would have been taken into account when addressing if i should be permanently banned since its the smallest fraction of negativity. Passive aggressive behavior is just me truly caring about the game and upset when individuals go out of there way to ruin it for others, if i had no previous history i'm not sure if i would have even received the 10 game chat restriction because it was so borderline. do you know if there is any plans for the future to allow players to redeem themselves or prove that there behavior has changed, i honestly thought that when i was punished for chat it was because i had used one of the follow: profanity, acronyms of profanity, hate speech, racial slurs, derogatory comments towards unskilled players, etc. i'm honestly sorry i didn't want to become someone who needs to defend themselves as being not toxic, I've made improvements and played for so long, but will only be recognized and remember as someone who was passive aggressive at the end and cut off from the game. thanks for taking the time to look at my post and reply as well i know i commented on another thread and am glad you saw and looked into my post, much appreciated.
: >"Everyone I speak to that plays league tells me , wow they banned you for that? That's really bad of them to do that." I know the system pretty damn well, so if you feel like providing your chat logs and punishment history I can pretty accurately tell you if this is a normal outcome for that behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=082YYKil,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-21T16:31:52.622+0000) > > I know the system pretty damn well, so if you feel like providing your chat logs and punishment history I can pretty accurately tell you if this is a normal outcome for that behavior. i have a thread posted about my perma ban as well which i've included the chat logs and some history of the events, i've played 4k-5k games since 2012 and was told 8 punishable instances brought me to a perma ban majority coming from the last 3 months. 0.002% of games played did i exxhibit behavior worthy of being punished and the last straw the perma ban i did not include any language that wasn't considered to be G rated and readable by any audience it was a retaliation to a person intentionally ruining my game which i kept the conversation about the game. idk i sunk thousands of hours and dollars into my account, can you let me know your thoughts if you got some free time at some point? i'd really appreciate it, most the comments are also confused by the ban so i don't get it.
: Im hardstuck g5/4 and I don't know why.
sticking with the same few champs or the same role can help you master a playstyle that can help you grow. i personally really got into kha zix and jungling and was able to climb by solely playing it. also in gold if you lose ur promos the next time your up for promos you get a free win so eventually you will climb! dont psych yourself out you got this. GL!
: Would you rather honor a friendly player or a skilled player?
depends, in ranked games with a competitive atmosphere i'm more likely to give it to someone who carried or someone who had an awesome play. in any other game mode it would be to a friendly player since theres nothing at stake but enjoying the game. i can appreciate both parties.
: Honey, post the screencap and stop wasting everyone’s time, thanks.
> [{quoted}](name=Spank the Fox,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-09-22T12:45:54.749+0000) > > Honey, post the screencap and stop wasting everyone’s time, thanks. not sure how to record my screen, but in the ingame client if you search summoner name ( sneakers7 ) you can view match history and replay, it will show them losing turret at 7 minutes, me about to last hit the wave and her blowing abilities and stealing the wave from 10:11 and from 21:01 me starting blue buff and her waiting around wolves to launch her long range ability to steal it. if you know how i can screen record, i would be more than willing to share the screencap, thanks.
: Permanently Banned LMK what you think, thanks.
since I've started playing this game i can estimate that I've played around 4000 - 5000 games, i was told that i had 8 instances of reported behavior. since 2012 to present 8 instances out of 4k games is 0.002% and the reform card tells me im among the 0.006%, majority of my bans have come out of the last 3 months where i had to deal with some personal stuff in my life and this ended up as a temporary outlet. not to condone toxic behavior but i feel like its evident i'm not a toxic player and for majority of my punishments to occur within a couple months nobody thinks " hey this guy has been a good player but all of the sudden hes been stacking up punishments really quickly, maybe somethings going on?" it's ranked, i got stressed and called out someone intentionally trying to make my game worse through chat and in game actions and my retaliation which is G rated was considered negative and resulted in the highest degree of punishment.
: Uhm... What the fuck? Theres literally not a single ban worthy thing in this log, So unless you're lying...Thats bullshit and you should definitely issue a support ticket.
> [{quoted}](name=My Names Gumbas,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-09-22T14:03:24.737+0000) > > Uhm... What the fuck? > Theres literally not a single ban worthy thing in this log, So unless you're lying...Thats bullshit and you should definitely issue a support ticket. i've issued 2 support tickets and both time i've been denied saying although there was no instances of profanity, acronyms, hate speech, racial slurs, etc. the overall chat was still negative. I was negative to a person trolling and griefing and still kept my cool to not use language during a ranked game i was demoting from and still got the ban.
: SAO is just bad but mostly because it's just generic, self insert fluff. The premise is cool but loses weight once you realize that the main character is basically God and that any reoccurring female that is in the show only really exists to praise him. SAO is good until you understand it enough to realize it's a terrible RPG and that the main villain's goal is dumb. Elf whatever is the one I skipped Gun Gale is terrible once everything gets explained. The three main questions you'll have will be "How does this games balance work?" "How did the villians do any of this without getting caught?" and "Why does the camera keep zooming in on her ass?" that last one happening a few times, btw. It's a bland wish fulfillment show that's only really a self insert fantasy for dudes who want to be strong and get chicks. Watch TTGL
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WwPHENEY,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-09-22T03:56:03.118+0000) > > SAO is just bad but mostly because it's just generic, self insert fluff. The premise is cool but loses weight once you realize that the main character is basically God and that any reoccurring female that is in the show only really exists to praise him. > > SAO is good until you understand it enough to realize it's a terrible RPG and that the main villain's goal is dumb. > > Elf whatever is the one I skipped > > Gun Gale is terrible once everything gets explained. The three main questions you'll have will be "How does this games balance work?" "How did the villians do any of this without getting caught?" and "Why does the camera keep zooming in on her ass?" that last one happening a few times, btw. > > It's a bland wish fulfillment show that's only really a self insert fantasy for dudes who want to be strong and get chicks. Watch TTGL ********SPOILER********** hahaha i'm still laughing when i think about gun gale and game balance as he slices through the sniper rifle bullet with a light saber.
Gall (NA)
: Why are so many people toxic only when they play bad?
league is considered an esport. in sports you want to win. ranked is the equivalent of playoff games in sports. if everyone on the team made a serious effort to win and try there best there would still be a negative atmosphere because you lost, how can you be positive but for the most part i think people would be quite if it really came down to a well played game by all members. it's when players resort to inting, trolling, griefing and afking that the real toxicity comes out because if this were an actual sport and any of your teammates did any of those things to you, no one would think twice about confronting the player as long as it remained about the game and didn't resort to forms of discrimination.
: im hesitating watching sword art online why do half ppl like it and half hate it???
SAO you will like it, than it will get weird, than it will slightly recover que SAO2, you will like it, than it will get weird, slightly recover, and you will still probably say it was worth watching, so go for it!
Audhulma (NA)
: Because _technically_, despite it being one of the more mild chat logs I've seen in a while, it still counts as being generally negative, possibly even mild harassment. You got reported for it, Riot made a black or white choice -'yes this counts as negativity' or 'no it doesn't'- and the permanent ban was the result. Funny enough, had you not already been involved with bans you would most likely only get a chat restriction for that level of negativity, and only after doing it multiple games. Just the straw that broke the camel's back.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-09-22T03:05:54.314+0000) > > Because _technically_, despite it being one of the more mild chat logs I've seen in a while, it still counts as being generally negative, possibly even mild harassment. You got reported for it, Riot made a black or white choice -'yes this counts as negativity' or 'no it doesn't'- and the permanent ban was the result. > > Funny enough, had you not already been involved with bans you would most likely only get a chat restriction for that level of negativity, and only after doing it multiple games. Just the straw that broke the camel's back. if the bot system was the one reporting me than i agree because i doubt it has capabilities to assess situations that fall into the gray category, but were considering league of legends as an esport that has been featured on sportscentre. as far as i'm concerned playing a ranked game is like playing a professional play off game, your team should be in it to win together and when one person is intentionally hindering you on purpose, of course your frustration will turn into negativity because there's a lot riding on these games and personally I've never seen a happy go lucky athlete positively support a teammate intentionally throwing a game and hurting there teammates, i'm 99% sure its unheard of, which is why i honestly didnt think the severity of my punishment is right. not to say 2 wrongs make a right, if i had said 1 curse word there would literally be no post on the forums but it's just so mild in terms of toxicity.
: Let me add a little clarification to the tiered system. The tiered system is in place to continue escalation of chronically offending players. It is not in place to guarantee that a player receives each and every penalty available. As it stands today, every offence is evaluated for severity. After that severity is determined, an appropriate penalty is assigned. If a player has already had that penalty (recently) it will skip to the next. We do not feel that a chat restriction is sufficient for telling people to kill themselves or attacking people with hate speech (ZT).
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xAAcRMo4,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-09-20T17:43:56.747+0000) > > Let me add a little clarification to the tiered system. The tiered system is in place to continue escalation of chronically offending players. It is not in place to guarantee that a player receives each and every penalty available. > > As it stands today, every offence is evaluated for severity. After that severity is determined, an appropriate penalty is assigned. If a player has already had that penalty (recently) it will skip to the next. > > We do not feel that a chat restriction is sufficient for telling people to kill themselves or attacking people with hate speech (ZT). i'm interested in what you said about every offence being evaluated for severity. I myself just recently received a permanent ban on my long term dedicated account for very mild behavior that included no profanity, no acronyms of profanity, no hate speech, no racial remarks or slang terms. I even included a positive remark in my chat log. what evaluated my chat log and deemed that the severity of it was to assign the highest degree of punishment, a permanent ban, or, any ban, as my chat log is quite G rated for any audience to read. i understand the 14 day suspension is the 2nd last tier before permanent ban but if each ban is judged on severity and i was very mild i don't understand how the judgement comes into play. is the automated system responsible for assessing the severity or an actual person when dealing with various tiers of punishment?
: > [{quoted}](name=e46 Fanatic,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-22T01:45:12.836+0000) > > According to Riot, I was among the top 10% in my region for being most honorable, have 4 summoner icons rewarded for honor(one being my current AWESOME santa baron icon), blah blah, I argue back with toxic trolls who flame me a few times and all of it goes down the drain. Welcome to automated report systems, where the worst get treated the best and the best, most honorable get perma banned. being good in the past doesnt mean you cant do anything bad you dont magically get out of jail for killing someone because you worked at a homeless shelter 4 years ago
> [{quoted}](name=UnboundHades,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-09-22T02:07:54.596+0000) > > being good in the past doesnt mean you cant do anything bad > > you dont magically get out of jail for killing someone because you worked at a homeless shelter 4 years ago of course it's not a justification but considering my chat log it's far from a murder reference, it would be like if your friend called you out for doing something dumb, are you going to sever all ties with them, of course not because you know that both of you got into it a little but you can forget about it and move on cause that person is not going to hold 1 small thing against you to the highest degree.
: > [{quoted}](name=sneakers7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-09-22T01:51:01.901+0000) > > Hey, Super Cow Swag > > if it wasn't mid platinum elo i'd agree with you 100% but even to give them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't know they still were trolling me in game. when the jungler let me take the blue buff she followed me over and stood nearby and i thought she was helping me get vision coverage since the enemy was around the area but she just wanted to wait till i had the buff low than steal that from me to trying to make me tilt further. I understand you feel like you should be able to hold people to certain standards based on elo, I only play ranked until I get to Gold V then quit because people making weird baron calls and not using my ward coverage / ignoring me spamming pings right before they get caught out makes me want to rip my hair out. But we have to act as if all of our teammates are new and innocent or else we risk punishment. Even if they don't know what a map is.
> [{quoted}](name=Super Cow Swag,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-09-22T01:58:39.885+0000) > > I understand you feel like you should be able to hold people to certain standards based on elo, I only play ranked until I get to Gold V then quit because people making weird baron calls and not using my ward coverage / ignoring me spamming pings right before they get caught out makes me want to rip my hair out. > > > But we have to act as if all of our teammates are new and innocent or else we risk punishment. yea i feel that i've had some insanely tilting games but sometimes even a deep breath or a snack can help keep things positive. i know you said treat them like new players and maybe they didnt understand the concept of freezing but in the chat log it shows that i explained why im freezing " im freezing lane so i dont push out and die " but the player ignored the tip.
: Permanently Banned LMK what you think, thanks.
I totally get where you guys are coming from i just don't get how my chat remained G rated and mildly negative but compared to when i read others posts there log is filled with insulting remarks, acronyms or phrases that i didn't use and rarely used throughout my years of playing. my chat to perma ban escalated over the course of 2 months i believe and ignored all the positive impacts I've made through chat or game play since 2012.
: Problem here is if they aren't trolling -> then you are bullying them for not being able to comprehend things such as freezing waves to farm safely and funneling gold into the players on the team who are in a position to carry. If they are trolling -> doesn't matter. :/ In this situation, you probably could have just explained what they should be doing and why what they are doing is wrong, speak as objective as possible, and you just MIGHT not get perma`d
> [{quoted}](name=Super Cow Swag,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qha3I0vf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-22T01:45:23.128+0000) > > Problem here is if they aren't trolling you then you are bullying them for not being able to comprehend things such as freezing waves to farm safely and funneling gold into the players on the team who are in a position to carry. Hey, Super Cow Swag if it wasn't mid platinum elo i'd agree with you 100% but even to give them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't know they still were trolling me in game. when the jungler let me take the blue buff she followed me over and stood nearby and i thought she was helping me get vision coverage since the enemy was around the area but she just wanted to wait till i had the buff low than steal that from me to trying to make me tilt further.
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: C.O.D. meets L.O.L Prisoner #627
this COD idea is pretty sick, from a regular cod player the kit seems viable for a league champion. would be cool to see ur champ plus than he could easily get a commando skin to go along with the game
: GONDOR the CATAPULT COMMANDER
sorry on the e it can directly hit the enemy but will roll for a very short distance afterwords as well, as well the ult is almost like a xerath q where hes slowed or stopped to charge the catapult
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