: > [{quoted}](name=sphinxthelion7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0AhA91ej,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-19T03:14:00.441+0000) > >She has an infinite scale passive It's very similar to Nasus & Veigar, She's weak early on & needs souls to scale up into a monster of a champion. > a simple easy to use escape Senna's [E: Curse of the Black Mist] creates a Puff of Smoke that gives her & her teammates Camouflage. This does not guarentee her any kind of safety as champions who have gap closers CAN dash to her & reveal her. Champions with Skillshots like Blitzcrank's [Q: Rocket Grab] can even pull her back to him even while she has this Ability activated. > damage Considering how she's a Marksman, I'd expect her to have Damage in her kit. Senna isn't like most Enchanter-Supports who spend the entire game Healing/Shielding Teammates. Much like Mage Supports & Pyke, she can hold her own in fights. > AND AN ULT THAT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DODGE! Seriously!?!?! At least Lux's ult requires a bit of aiming! Senna's ult is so wide you don't even need to aim hardly! Her Ultimate has a long wind up & even then, **ONLY THE CENTER OF THE ABILITY** deals damage to enemies. Enemy Players will not take damage if they aren't in it's center, however Allies that are in the Ultimate are given a shield regardless of their positioning.
> [{quoted}](name=Agent Corgi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0AhA91ej,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-19T03:27:28.668+0000) > > It's very similar to Nasus & Veigar, She's weak early on & needs souls to scale up into a monster of a champion. > > Senna's [E: Curse of the Black Mist] creates a Puff of Smoke that gives her & her teammates Camouflage. This does not guarentee her any kind of safety as champions who have gap closers CAN dash to her & reveal her. Champions with Skillshots like Blitzcrank's [Q: Rocket Grab] can even pull her back to him even while she has this Ability activated. > > Considering how she's a Marksman, I'd expect her to have Damage in her kit. Senna isn't like most Enchanter-Supports who spend the entire game Healing/Shielding Teammates. Much like Mage Supports & Pyke, she can hold her own in fights. > > Her Ultimate has a long wind up & even then, **ONLY THE CENTER OF THE ABILITY** deals damage to enemies. Enemy Players will not take damage if they aren't in it's center, however Allies that are in the Ultimate are given a shield regardless of their positioning. Yes her abilities are similar to other champs, but those champs dont have all these abilities combined. They have weaknesses or a certain game play. For example, janna has shields and safety, but no damage. Nassus has infinite scale passive and armor, but you really can just kite him till his ult is done and kill him. Senna is untargetable when she uses her e. That makes her escape super easy and effective. No other champ has this kit. Veigar has a stun, damage, and infinite passive. But he is also squishy and immobile. Senna has all these champions strengths and none of their weaknesses. That is the problem.
rujitra (NA)
: You know who else has infinite scale passives? {{champion:432}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:45}} In fact, given that Senna in the lore is closely related to Thresh (not related in the sense "family" but in that their lores overlap and intertwine at various points), it makes sense Senna would have infinite scaling. Keep in mind that while it's technically "infinite", there is a limitation. At most, it can trigger every (I think) 4 seconds on the same champion - so even if we assume **frame perfect** inputs of an ability and an auto attack so they hit at exactly the same time, and we assume infinite mana, it could only proc and scale 15 times per minute off champions. And in reality, you're more likely to see a few times (4-5 at most) per minute off champions, and even then it requires quite perfect gameplay. The ultimate ability is hardly impossible to dodge. The central beam that does damage is 320 units wide. This is *slightly* wider than Jinx ultimate (at 225), and a decent amount wider than Ashe's ultimate (at 125). So sure, there's two things smaller than it. But then you also have Ezreal (same width as Senna), so it's hardly like Riot's making some massive gamealtering change. If you imagine Senna on the enemy team as an Ezreal, then it's literally exactly the same. If you include some abilities that aren't necessarily *global* but still have massive ranges (ex: Kled ultimate, Ziggs ultimate [entire circle], Pantheon [700 units!]).... then you begin to realize this is nowhere near the "worst" or the first. If you find it easy to aim something perfectly each time by instinct when it has a range of 320 units... then heck, maybe you should be looking into joining a professional team.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0AhA91ej,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-19T03:39:05.984+0000) > > You know who else has infinite scale passives? > > {{champion:432}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:45}} > > In fact, given that Senna in the lore is closely related to Thresh (not related in the sense "family" but in that their lores overlap and intertwine at various points), it makes sense Senna would have infinite scaling. > > Keep in mind that while it's technically "infinite", there is a limitation. At most, it can trigger every (I think) 4 seconds on the same champion - so even if we assume **frame perfect** inputs of an ability and an auto attack so they hit at exactly the same time, and we assume infinite mana, it could only proc and scale 15 times per minute off champions. And in reality, you're more likely to see a few times (4-5 at most) per minute off champions, and even then it requires quite perfect gameplay. > > The ultimate ability is hardly impossible to dodge. The central beam that does damage is 320 units wide. This is *slightly* wider than Jinx ultimate (at 225), and a decent amount wider than Ashe's ultimate (at 125). So sure, there's two things smaller than it. But then you also have Ezreal (same width as Senna), so it's hardly like Riot's making some massive gamealtering change. If you imagine Senna on the enemy team as an Ezreal, then it's literally exactly the same. > > If you include some abilities that aren't necessarily *global* but still have massive ranges (ex: Kled ultimate, Ziggs ultimate [entire circle], Pantheon [700 units!]).... then you begin to realize this is nowhere near the "worst" or the first. > > If you find it easy to aim something perfectly each time by instinct when it has a range of 320 units... then heck, maybe you should be looking into joining a professional team. It isn't "slightly" wider... that's almost 100 units. She has all the best abilities of those champs PLUS mobility and safety.
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: Been gone over 6 months aaand...
I hope that one day a decision maker at Riot will read my posts and say "Damn, he was right. Maybe if I fix these parts of this game and listen to my customers, they won't abandon me." I know its a fantasy, but what if? What if I logged in and Riot was like "we're going to to fix matchmaker, the ranked system, damage creep, and mobility creep." "We are going to actively monitor toxic player behavior in ranked que so that it can be taken seriously again." Y'know? "We will balance champions in a timely manner and never let them dip down to 42% win rate by completely gutting them like Akali was, or let them get to a 54% winrate and just stay there for 4 5 patches." We will listen to legitimate concerns from our player, and reply to them on the boards." I know it's a fantasy...
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: I'm a new player and I don't understand how this game is so popular
Because they dumped $100million + into LCS and stopped trying to improve the basics of the game.
Zeanix (OCE)
: Qiyana's splash art does not convey 'Empress'
This champ is almost lamer than the cartoon cat! Riot has lost it's way...
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: I just got 3 bronze players vs 4 silver, HPW IS THIS FAIR RIOT!??!
Bronze and silver are VERY FAR APART! the people in silver are the ones who managed to crawl out of that ELO hELL!
KnowShow (OCE)
: Going to MSI semifinals in Taipei and need info on what you are allowed to bring into the venue
: 2 iron players in a silver game
it would be one thing if it was fluke, but its game after game after game.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=sphinxthelion7,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WvOQ0f1n,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-14T17:11:24.328+0000) > > Why am I getting voted down??!?!?!? This is a critical problem in this game! What is wrong with this community? Because they believe those Iron players have MMR of a silver player probably...or maybe you somehow shat your mmr to iron lvl. Edit: I just checked, both of them had around 17% wr....rly wtf?
> [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WvOQ0f1n,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-14T17:28:55.612+0000) > > Because they believe those Iron players have MMR of a silver player probably...or maybe you somehow shat your mmr to iron lvl. > Edit: I just checked, both of them had around 17% wr....rly wtf? Yeah, tell me again how this is my fault? How I'm supposed to take this game seriously as an e-sport?
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: 2 iron players in a silver game
Why am I getting voted down??!?!?!? This is a critical problem in this game! What is wrong with this community?
: Matchmaking at its finest
The matchmaker has been putting iron players in my games anytime it decides I should lose. I just had an Iron 4 in my game, and of course he fed and was awful. How does a silver game have an Iron 4 in it>?!?!>?!
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: FIX YOUR MATCHMAKER!!!!!!!!!!
And my next game the enemy team has an iron player. Guess what? I won. Of course. This matchmaker is garbage. It's not even close to making fair games. Which ever team get the iron player loses. Matchmaker is picking winners and losers. There is no 50% chance to win when you are getting people who are A FULL TIER LOWER THAN YOU on your team! I would really like Riot to speak on this. Where are the red posts? How can this be a competitive environment when matchmaker is pairing us with people a full tier away?!?! Stupid!
: FIX YOUR MATCHMAKER!!!!!!!!!!
Matchmaker is picking winners and losers before the match even begins! It is handi-capping teams with better or worse teammates. This is probably about 90% of the determinant of win/ lose! Fix it! Get rid of shitty MMR! Pair people with-in their tier!
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: Well you did it riot. You broke it.
But but they invested $100 million in LCS! IT MUST SUCCEED! You gotta wonder how a spectator sport will succeed when no one wants to play this game and therefore have no interest in spectating. This is what happens when a big corporation takes over a good product and apply the corporate business model. It turns to shit. The corporate overlords wont take any responsibility either. They will make excuses about how its not their fault.
Zeyphel (NA)
: It is funny that you are being ranked by your rank, yet you get matched in games by your MMR. Gold Players matched against Diamond 2 player to get out of gold. Totally fine.
Dahaaka (EUW)
: Agreed, Ranking means literally nothing, i have 2 friends, silver 1-2 they perform 9/10 games better than plat ranking players. at start, when they were b3-2 they would have 80%+ winrate, they play good, carrying games, even skipping some of the ranks, but then system started to put them with ppl of 30%> winrate which caused them both stuck there. their mmr is still high. Watching their match history and seeing stats like: 15/6/9 - loss 3/1/14 - loss 21/8/9 - loss like wtf?? why they must suffer bcz of that? If the rank system would work by mmr, everything would be much much better, especially for them.
Gall (NA)
: I literally made this exact post a year ago, twice, and it got downvoted to oblivion.
: Yuumi becomes "untargetable"
You guys are all missing the point. Just wait. When she comes out every one is going to be crying. Just wait. You guys are smug now, but when she comes out...
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: LEAK FROM THE NEW CHAMP YUUMI!!!!!
Great, a cartoon cat. Next lets get The Wiggles to do the music theme. Maybe the next champ will be a big purple singing dinosaur. Lame guys. This champ is for 5 yr olds.
: After a MASSIVE losing streak in Ranked...
No that is the hidden MMR trying to unsuccessfully adjust your handicap with crappy matchmaking. Also prob, some badluck.
: It didn't. Matchmaking still works the same as it use to. The gameplay itself has just deteriorated. However, as long as people are dumb enough to continue to blame matchmaking, nothing will get fixed.
Dude, stop. You arent convincing anyone.
: Matchmaking is in the best place I've seen it in a very long time. GOOD JOB!
: > [{quoted}](name=sphinxthelion7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W0x7AdT2,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-12T12:28:56.541+0000) > > MMR is crap. It forces a 50% winrate by giving you worse teammates when your winrate spikes over 50%. If you win too much the MMR system handicaps you instead of rewarding you. This effectively forces you to stay within your bracket. It is a stupid system that doesnt work. That rumor was shot down a while ago. MMR simply puts you with 9 other players within 5 points of your own. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-Guide >In a perfect match, ten individuals with identical MMRs queue at the same time, each having selected a unique position that they’re well-suited for. That situation is incredibly rare depending on who is queueing at the time, so sometimes teams can have very slight skill differences (on average, no more than 4-5 MMR).
after playing several thousand games, I don't believe it. That may be how they expect it to work, but it doesn't.
: > [{quoted}](name=Gamer Life,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W0x7AdT2,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T08:03:49.703+0000) > > Its not as simple as that. The MMR system has proven time after time to be useless and unfair. Riot have had 9 or 10 years to come up with a better system yet they refuse to listen That is completely false. The mmr system has proven to work every season despite all of the flaws of the league community. There is no better system from a matchmaking aspect and all of the flaws you have pointed out are attributed to other aspects of the game.
MMR is crap. It forces a 50% winrate by giving you worse teammates when your winrate spikes over 50%. If you win too much the MMR system handicaps you instead of rewarding you. This effectively forces you to stay within your bracket. It is a stupid system that doesnt work.
GFREEMEN (NA)
: 4th game tonight where ALL of my team mates are under 48% win rate and Im at 56% MANY of then under 40% 3 Dodges and Im done for the night. Riot has it out of the account it seems.
: Here's How You Can Win More In League
yup. In silver people just chase around the map for kills.
: The Same Face is real
Same face, same background, same hair, same body shape, LULZ, "professional artists". As a former professional artist myself, this is lazy crap in my professional opinion.
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: Matchmaking seems to be at its finest again
because they are trying to improve que times to make up for their shrinking player base.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: nocturne has a spellshield
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aj3AeyuJ,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2019-03-16T20:03:38.360+0000) > > nocturne has a spellshield well, i didnt know that. I dont play him.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Fix your broken game, Riot
I wish I had captured the video of Nocturne literally walking through my q when I was playing Lux. He then killed me. I hit him squarely in the face. He walked straight at me. It went through him. He had no items to explain this. I died. Also, notice no one from Riot replies to bug threads or customer service tickets anymore...
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=sphinxthelion7,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EIze2TE9,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-12T05:40:07.430+0000) > > Because they didn't ban people's accounts by credit card number and name, that's why. > > But yeah, when you have a bunch of kiddos whose parents are paying for it, or who just dont care about having money in general yet, it makes its tough. So we should kill off a decent chunk of the community to try and fix a problem that has been shown multiple times in the past to not work?
Yes, if they are showing that they are toxic beyond reform like this guy. A sharp decrease in toxicity and trolls would likely attract and keep new players which Riot desperately needs. But your assertion that it wouldn't work isn't really accurate. You cant just get a new credit card.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=sphinxthelion7,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EIze2TE9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-12T05:28:31.374+0000) > > Make the game a paid. If people had to pay for the game they wouldn't troll so much because their accounts would have cost them actual money, and you could ban people by credit card number and name. If that didn't stop toxicity in FF14, WoW, TF2 (when it was paid to play) Xbox Live, and the list goes on, why would that prevent it here?
Because they didn't ban people's accounts by credit card number and name, that's why. But yeah, when you have a bunch of kiddos whose parents are paying for it, or who just dont care about having money in general yet, it makes its tough.
: There have been so many times that I am utterly AMAZED at the lack of skill level in high elo master and grandmaster games. To the point where any sane human being would be unable to flame 100+ games unless they literally did not type anything. These players are a bigger plague than any toxic thing I have ever said across any games. My first account, I had for over 2 years, then when it got permabanned, why would that suddenly encourage me to become a better person? I kept making more and more accounts, because I literally do not care at this point, and let everything I want to say be released immediately instead of self tilting myself to another dimension by not typing and potentially breaking everything around me. 22 accounts happened like nothing, I can barely even make it to 30 before I get permabanned now to play in high elo.
> [{quoted}](name=build armor,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EIze2TE9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-12T05:26:22.243+0000) > > There have been so many times that I am utterly AMAZED at the lack of skill level in high elo master and grandmaster games. To the point where any sane human being would be unable to flame 100+ games unless they literally did not type anything. > > These players are a bigger plague than any toxic thing I have ever said across any games. My first account, I had for over 2 years, then when it got permabanned, why would that suddenly encourage me to become a better person? > > I kept making more and more accounts, because I literally do not care at this point, and let everything I want to say be released immediately instead of self tilting myself to another dimension by not typing and potentially breaking everything around me. 22 accounts happened like nothing, I can barely even make it to 30 before I get permabanned now to play in high elo. I DONT believe that you have ever been in high elo and therefore have no vantage point to criticize.
: This is false, all of my accounts had over $60 of items on them.
> [{quoted}](name=build armor,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EIze2TE9,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-12T05:29:28.853+0000) > > This is false, all of my accounts had over $60 of items on them. I dont believe you. And that just makes you sound like you are wasting your money. And by that logic you are paying Riot to ban your accounts. If it was a monthly paid service it would be easier to track and ban individual users, and there would be a greater incentive to keep one's account.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MF is my Waifu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EIze2TE9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-12T05:14:03.939+0000) > > Actually, I upvoted it. Can you return an upvote, please? > > Riot doesn't know how to handle toxicity, anyway. Please share your wisdom on how to handle it, I would love to hear your method for it that no game ever has ever been able to fully control.
Make the game a paid. If people had to pay for the game they wouldn't troll so much because their accounts would have cost them actual money, and you could ban people by credit card number and name.
: Keep Banning Me, I'll Keep Making Accounts
wow. You have a lot of anger. Maybe you should talk with someone about it. Someone professional.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Position ranks have been cancelled
BigFBear (EUW)
: Same here. Lots of unranked players in my or enemy team. Usually the team with more unranked players loses.
> [{quoted}](name=BigFBear,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nXBhAOeV,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2019-03-03T02:25:03.859+0000) > > Same here. > Lots of unranked players in my or enemy team. > Usually the team with more unranked players loses. Not even. Because unranked players are a gamble. Some are really good and some are bad. It adds randomness to the game instead of a straight tier ladder. It makes no sense in competitive play!
VisArch (EUW)
: Is it worth investing time in this game or not ? What you think ?
> [{quoted}](name=VisArch,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KtzEiviK,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-03-07T14:57:03.335+0000) > > Is it worth investing time in this game or not ? > > What you think ? no. It was a frustrating experience with a company that doesnt respect its players, and a crappy ranked system with a hidden MMR that makes no sense at all and is insanely frustrating to deal with.
KatOne (EUNE)
: Lol matchmaking system sucks
Its the matchmaker MMR dogma. If you win too much it tries to lower your winrate to 50% by giving you bad teams. Usually you hit promos after a win streak and your MMR spikes. The matchmaker MMR correction will usually over shoot you low, and you will have to climb back. It's awful. Whether you win or lose a game has little to do with how you play most of the time. It has more to do with how much of a handi-cap matchmaker gave you when assembling your team. Have you ever noticed you have games where you don't do much and you win? And then other games where you carry hard, yet lose? Thats matchmaker assigning you a handi-cap when it picks your teammates. Its utter trash system.
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