: The reason why new people AVOID rank!
I've been playing ranked since season 3. I also play flex ranked (for the victorious Orianna chroma) purely solo and I get put with pre-made pretty much every flex ranked games (sometimes even double duos). I don't really experienced as much toxicity (that does not mean I experienced no toxicity...) as most people claimed. That's just my personal experience of course. If you go into games accept that you'll win/lose 40-60% of the time and a loss is inevitable, you'll find that it'll be okay to lose some games even because of afk/inter/troll/etc. Go into games prepare to use the mute function, but only when things go south. Respect your teammates and don't full mute before they even say anything. That's my ways anyway.
Trias000 (EUNE)
: Never give up
Sorry, this game is called League of Legends, NOT League of Losers or League of Quitters.
WujuFire (EUW)
: Ranked system
I have been playing League since Season 3 and I play ranked. Plz do not speak for me. You do not speak for "all of us summoners". 1) feeding is not against the rules. for someone to win lane, the opposing laner must lose lane (e.g. feeding) https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4235891679/229182271?tab=overview https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4234233655/229182271?tab=overview https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4215559935/229182271?tab=overview https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4194354466/229182271?tab=overview You feed your ass off too. How much extra LP are you willing to lose? 2) how do you define "carrying"? It can means a tank who prevent all damage from adc but have very little kda and damage to show for it. Or a support who cc or tank for adc, but have no glory. Or a jungle who applies pressures all over the map even if he doesn't kill anyone.
Mr Tyson (NA)
: I don't think that is how boards are supposed to work. That is what comments are for. You are supposed to upvote things that belong on the bopards, and downvote things that don't belong on the boards. Apparently, dissenting opinions have no place on these boards. I think I have been quite good with my comments clarifying issues. People have thought I'm complaining about a punishment, and their comments get upvoted. I have not been punished in any way, nor have I left a game or done anything that would get me a punishment. Apparently me explaining that deserves a downvote. So one of 2 things is going on. Either it is 'disagreeable' that I don't think punishments should not be punished, **AND** it is disagreeable that I do follow the code and don't negatively impact games. Or, you all are sheep, I have said something you somehow deemed undesirable, and anything I say must be bad and downvoted to show that desenters don't belong. Check the first comment thread, and tell me I'm wrong. The one with meowwow7. He completely ignored the entire post, and got upvotes. I clarified, and even informed everyone I am in fact, not toxic in the games. Downvotes. Sheep mentality.
if say I agree with Imperial Pandaa and disagree with you, in stead of parroting or copy and paste what pandaa said, a simple downvote on you and upvote on him convey my disagreement with you and agreement with him. Now if 30 people who downvoted you typed pretty much the same disagreement, then this thread will be flooded with pretty much the same 30 comments. Downvote and upvote are much more clean to convey agreement/disagreement without spamming the same comments 30 times. Besides, you called the community psychopathic, which is a little overblown on a more serious medical condition. What exactly were you expecting? Tons of upvotes?
ßlameMyADC (EUNE)
: Stop queueing me with people I reported last game
Just because you reported someone doesn't mean that person did anything wrong. You can report someone for any reason or absolutely no reason at all. What you are asking for is a way to abuse and manipulate matchmaking (which may or may not be your intention, but it will be abused this way). If you want to reduce the chance of being queued with someone you previously played, then simply wait a few minutes before hitting the Play button. It is a small inconvenience (by your own choice) to preserve the integrity of matchmaking.
: I am from a family of lawyers. Threatening to rape and kill someone online on any platform is a federal crime. Educate yourself. I don't mean to sound bitter or mean but you can take it lightly, not everyone does. Hiding behind a screen and joking about raping a 2 year old does not make it okay.
and? do these lawyers family of yours not "educate" you on how to properly report it to the correct people? In case they didn't, Rito is not the correct people to report "cyber crime". Educate yourself.
: Why do you let people say things like "EZ"
report them post game and then go into option and disable /all chat
Jesari (NA)
: Revised/Reposed:So people who hack you, and gift themselves through your account don't get punished
In a lot of cases, not even the real polices with real authorities can just willy nilly ask for people identity on the net without a subpoena of some kind or nilly willy search people without probable cause. Who are you with what authority to demand to know the identity of that person? If you claim to be hacked, gift me something, you get to request whatever real account data Rito has on me??? That's all kind of questionable legality (or publicity) shits that would rain down on Rito.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5NPK27w1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-18T01:20:41.662+0000) > > If you are currently Gold+ rank, it is kind of a big deal. You will not get your end season rewards, victorious skin, ward, etc. (if those matter to you). I doubt you have enough time to climb back to Honor 2 now. It says that if you have active chat restrictions. I've already gotten rid of the restriction as it was only 9 games.
Did the requirements changed this season? Honor 2 is required for end season rewards for the last 3 years...
: Chat Restricted. Is the system a lot stricter than it used to be?
If you are currently Gold+ rank, it is kind of a big deal. You will not get your end season rewards, victorious skin, ward, etc. (if those matter to you). I doubt you have enough time to climb back to Honor 2 now.
: Power in numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7BLtQHYY7g "dying game"
: when is it 6pm in california? in how many hours?
8 hours from now
: how would they know he shared the account though?
Rito usually does not go after people for this kind of thing as far as I know (although they can and will perma people for it). It's most likely at the bottom of their priorities unless it's the case of boosting/account sharing. I've only brought it up because OP openly admitted to sharing his account.
: That’s actually not true, telling someone to shut up is in itself a punishable offense. I have a support ticket from Riot stating this.
Yes, telling someone to shut up is flaming and flaming is against the rules. Therefore it is a punishable offense. The support agent is not wrong on that regards. However, in practice, the IFS gives people a lot of leniency toward something super mild like a single "shut up". No one has ever been punished for just one "shut up" and nothing else. If you can give me an actual example of someone who got punished for just one "shut up" and there's no other punishable offenses in their chat log.....
: I believe flaming and a solitary “shut up” are different. Currently, because it is an AI system, you will be punished for saying such even if only a couple times throughout a 30 minute game. (In correlation with my previous hypothetical scenario) I’d argue that isn’t toxic and it shouldnt be punishable. That was the case previously too, as far as I recall that wouldn’t be enough to garner a mute. Because this system uses keywords (which as I previously stated is useful for non tolerable remarks (racist, homophobic, etc.) but ends up being borderline comical for other things like “shut up” or “boner”. Like am I hallucinating in thinking that that should be fine? Game might as well be rated E at this point.
give me ONE chat log where someone got punished for a single instance of "shut up" no one ever get punished for just "shut up" whether by the IFS or Tribunal. Usually there are much more flaming, passive-aggressive, condescension, negativity, argument, rank/kda/etc. shaming, report harassment, etc. etc. involved ON TOP of that one "shut up"
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hdT8v9dH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T20:02:11.659+0000) > > account sharing is perma-bannable offense by itself. > > Are you sure your brother didnt share your account with his friends or use it to play at friend's house? I don't think giving it to his brother accounts for account sharing.
if he is not the one playing on that account, it is account sharing (being hacked notwithstanding)
: I'd like to reiterate that I believe neither of these systems are amazing by themselves but I'd like to point out the inaccuracies of any AI system and the circumstances revolving around inaccuracies. You can submit a support ticket if you feel wrongly punished sure, but take a hypothetical case like this for instance; >You're being flamed by a blatant racist for the majority of the game, you mute him but the rest of your teammates are still engaging with this idiot. >You tell this guy dude please shut up and play the game >You're bestowed a mute or temporary ban because shut up is a key word for the AI system AI doesn't account for circumstantial evidence and I'd have a hard time justifying any sort of punishment on the guy that said shut up. But hey, maybe I'm misinterpreting the kind of environment riot is trying to create
I participated actively during the Tribunal era. If you want to go by my accuracy rates, circumstantial evidence is meaningless when the person in question did flame. My accuracy rating took several hits when I voted to pardon someone who got flamed by their team and toward the end, flamed back. The majority decision is still punished. If you vote punish blindly without reading in Tribunal, you would get about 90% accuracy rating....circumstantial evidence or not
: I've been Perma-Banned for Third Party Software even tho I haven't used any...
account sharing is perma-bannable offense by itself. Are you sure your brother didnt share your account with his friends or use it to play at friend's house?
Gall (NA)
: @Riot Tantrum Just got this when I logged in today after my midterms :)
: I think the problem is that all other competitors from other games are generally not as stingy with their LP equivalent (rating), if you are good and confident in your play, getting more games in, in a day, is more inmportant thank clinging to 4v5s
nonetheless, the central point of your thread is that Rito should implement a system to allow your team to leave game early if there is an afk (you did want LP win/loss to be the same, which is a good thing). Rito already has such a system. It's called surrender vote. Now I can agree that maybe Rito should move it up to say 10 minutes surrender under special conditions like a teammate never connect and we couldn't remake. But I do have a problem if a single teammate should be allowed to leave if the rest of the team still wish to finish the game. If the team wants to leave, then the team has the option to surrender early. But that's just my opinion.
: Sure 4v5 is winnable like 5% of the time but Id rather get into a new game wherein i have all 4 of my teammates
But you cannot make the same selfish decision as the guy who went afk in the first place and leave the rest of your teammates to play 3v5, at least not without consequences. Rito gave us the chance to surrender, as a team. That's when all of you can leave game without consequences assuming the entire team no longer want to play it out. Perhaps if you want to move the 15 minutes surrender time up to like 10 minutes if you have afk 4 minutes in or something, that's more reasonable. But this is a team game, you win as a team, you surrender as a team (or super majority of the team if 20+ minutes).
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WhFMWLyb,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T19:52:26.102+0000) > > How do you defend your self ? > > You fight fire with fire or ? I mean if someone's lighting you on fire you gotta throw it back and get it off lmao
That's not how fire works. It gets both of you on fire. So people around you instead of having to avoid one flaming asshole, now they have 2 flaming assholes to avoid getting fire on them.
: please tell me - future
Who cares? If you did nothing wrong, then the IFS will find nothing. Use your own advice and mute the people who beg for report. Report them yourselves if you feel like it.
: Nah the LP system would stay exact same of course
So herein lies a problem. The win/loss LP should remain exact the same is the most fair point. However, if one person afk and the other 3 teammates wish to continue to play for a chance to win (perhaps one or more of them on a promo series or perhaps people just want to play the game out even if 4v5), but you allow the 4th to afk without consequence, would that be fair to the other 3 people who wants to play it out? There's a chance to win 4v5. I haven't heard anyone ever said there's a chance to win 3v5 unless the enemy surrender for some reason.
: Modernize LeaverBuster
I assume you'll want that match to be null and void and no one would gain or lose LP as well? Because if the remaining teammates don't lose LP, but winning team do gain, then it will be abused all to hell.
: I just wanned to know, I dont know why is there so many dislikes. I'm not trying to avoid my punishment or prove I'm innocent, judging by tickets It's like chasing wind in the mountains. Thanks for clarifying this.
One thing you need to understand is that the IFS (the bot that banned you originally) doesn't work without a report from other players. It is not automatic like LeaveBuster. If you got banned, it is 100% because SOMEONE (or multiple someones) reported you. No report = no IFS = no review. I can pretty much say for certain that someone did reported you that game. Otherwise, the IFS would not be triggered. Perhaps there was some miscommunications with support because they should tell you more or less what I told you here. It's not exactly a secret that they need to hide..... Even if you were in a pre-made 5 and you are sure no one on your team reported you, remember that the enemies can also reported you. Perhaps not for the "kys", but maybe they salt reported you or for whatever reason and that report would triggered the IFS which would see that "kys" of yours. You may be able to control your team if you are pre-made 5 and be sure no one reported you, but always remember that there are also the other 5 enemy players that you have no control over that can still reported you for any reason or no reason at all.
: Can a Rioter punish you without reports on your account?
Yes. Support has discretions to apply manual ban on any account they see fit.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q2N1HuQ2,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T12:20:17.453+0000) > > sorry, I'm not a 12 yrs old Well, I see you cannot accept those terms you just said lol. Good thing you are hiding under an alt-account. By the way, did you know league of legends is marketed towards teenagers? Suits me.
I'm not rising to your bait. Let our discussion ends here.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q2N1HuQ2,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T05:25:11.354+0000) > > Once more time, this is PLAYER BEHAVIOR board, NOT Gameplay board. If you want to discuss the efficiency of support taking cs, then Gameplay board is where that discussion should take place. As per the rules, support taking cs is NOT against the rules. Whether I am willing to accept those terms or not is irrelevant to the fact that nothing the Graves did is against the rules or was he trolling (as per RIto definition of trolling). So can you duo with me as you as ADC and I'll play graves support. Let's go ranked so friend me on your main account. Go on!
: Is This A Reportable and Bannable Offense?
define "troll in this manner". What did he do? ban someone's pick intent is not against the rules. picking lucian into ANY role is not against the rules. taking cs as a support is not against the rules. If he did not go to bot lane when game starts is most likely against the rules.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q2N1HuQ2,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T04:21:05.198+0000) > > It's hard to argue that support taking cs can reduce the efficiency of the team power. But this is Player Behavior, not Gameplay board. If he is assigned support and he went bot. He is playing his role. Picking Graves is not against the rules. Taking Doran first item is not against the rules. Taking cs even as a support is not against the rules (again, remember that this is Player Behavior board, not Gameplay). > > How is he a rolestealer??? Aside from the flaming part which is a offense. I don't know how much are you willing to accept those terms if people did that to you though.
Once more time, this is PLAYER BEHAVIOR board, NOT Gameplay board. If you want to discuss the efficiency of support taking cs, then Gameplay board is where that discussion should take place. As per the rules, support taking cs is NOT against the rules. Whether I am willing to accept those terms or not is irrelevant to the fact that nothing the Graves did is against the rules or was he trolling (as per RIto definition of trolling).
: Permanently banned for third party software??
What's wrong with the thread you made 43 minutes ago that's still on the first page?
: Get trolled and chat restricted nerd
Picking Graves is not trolling. Taking Doran blade is not trolling. Taking cs as a support is not trolling (as per Rito rules). He got chat restricted because you flamed. NOT because you were trolled because you were not trolled (as per the official rules). It is your choice to flame, take responsibility for your actions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q2N1HuQ2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-14T03:57:51.085+0000) > > Somehow, I doubt that is the only thing you said. But again, rolestealers should be banned off especially if its ranked.
It's hard to argue that support taking cs can reduce the efficiency of the team power. But this is Player Behavior, not Gameplay board. If he is assigned support and he went bot. He is playing his role. Picking Graves is not against the rules. Taking Doran first item is not against the rules. Taking cs even as a support is not against the rules (again, remember that this is Player Behavior board, not Gameplay). How is he a rolestealer???
PiRSqr (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xkzu1WGm,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-13T22:33:41.337+0000) > > If you intentionally fed or trolled, it doesn't really matter if you changed your mind later in the match. You still placed your team at a huge disadvantage on purpose. So this is a 1st offense penalty? a 14 day ban...
yes, considering almost everyone on this board would be just as happy if first offense is straight to perma ban for intentionally feeding....
: I lost lp because a tryndamere forgot smite
who are you to say what the enemy team can and cannot do regarding their lane assignments?
: We SERIOUSLY need a Compensation System in Place
are you prepared to not gain any LP if there is one of those on the enemy team and you won if any compensations are to be implemented? If losing team gets free LP compensations, then winning team shouldn't receive any LP for winning. Otherwise, you just create LP inflation.
: To all the people that claimed nobody would use the option to disable their own chat if it was added
and you couldn't get to honor 3 using /mute all at the begin of every game? Also, where do you see someone said nobody would use it?
: they were a duo. They were someone I thought was a friend, but after going 0-2 in lane they abandoned the game and blocked me on discord/league. and I decided enough was enough and wrote a ticket but nothing happened.
LeaveBuster never send you a notification and support will never tell you if someone is punished or not. There is no way to stalk someone's account to see LPQ. Usually Leavebuster allows everyone some leniency of a few afks before hitting them with LPQ. So how do you know he is not in LPQ if he is no longer in your friend list?
: Riots reporting system for players who abandon is a joke
Were you in pre-made with them? How do you know they were not in LPQ? How are you in games with them for more than 10 times to report them?
: People leaving games saying they have other accounts to play on
> of the people i have reported that have left games, and i have kept an excel spread sheet with their names, i have only gotten an instant feed back report on 3 of the 15 i have had since keeping the list. You have gotten 0 of the 15. LeaveBuster NEVER sends feedback report. You CANNOT tell if someone is punished by LeaveBuster or not unless you are pre-made with them. It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep an excel sheet or stalk anyone account to determine if someone is punished or not or to be able to claim that they didn't.
Sempere (NA)
: I see a lot of people saying draft pick. But for unskilled players that leaves them to be flamed or ridiculed. It's just a suggestion. Everyone has to start somewhere. Some people just like to play casually without the pressure. Also, please don't pretend that there's no lane calling. That's just absurd. We all know how LoL works.
why would unskilled players be flamed any harder or lesser between Blind and Draft? If anything, Draft would be far better for unskilled players because the queue pool for draft is far far bigger than blind, which means you get better matchups for your normal mmr.
Sempere (NA)
: Queue Dodging
Play Draft pick
: Can we do something about bullying duo, trio, and quad queues
>since people who group up can bully you the whole game. How? You type /mute all and you report each and every one of them. It's not possible to be flamed the whole game. What is what we can do about solo, 2, 3, 4 queues.
PavLoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tele II,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8wcdo2pz,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-10T01:43:45.757+0000) > > Im led to believe there's just a few people who go around downvoting shit for little to no reason. Kind of ruins the whole point of up/down voting. Anyway, I have no explanation for the delay. I always figured if your account is permabanned, then its banned on pbe too. Are they different accounts? As you can see, I know nothing about pbe lol. Ok, there's something I haven't told you. Basically I sent a support ticket asking them if my PBE will ever be disabled. Guess what? They asked for my account information and now it's disabled.
I'm confused. So you already know the answer to your question in the OP? You slipped through the crack. You asked about the crack. Now they fixed the crack.
: No he was banned for inting. He ran it down bot just running at the fed jhin and standing there autoing as veigar while they killed him over and over.
yeah... i posted before the replay and I admit i did not read that big ass wall hehe
Gøtcha (NA)
: Why am I receiving a 14 day suspension?
too much wall of text If you are punished for verbal toxicity , plz post the 2 chatlogs UNEDITED. Your game history is irrelevant. I admit I didn't not completely chewed all of your wall of text, but from as far as my eyes willing to go, it sounds like you are punished for chat, not game play.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hGUMQopd,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-09T21:13:19.102+0000) > > it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to tell if someone is punished by LeaveBuster or not unless you get into pre-made with them. Punishment for making a few off color jokes = Perma ban Punishment for AFK in ranked games = Longer Q times that you can alt+tab through. You don't see a problem here?
making a few of color jokes = 100% willful act going afk in any game = possibility of non-willful, uncontrollable act. Therefore to err on the side of people who have no control over their IRL situation (internet disrupttion, computer pooped out, irl emergencies, etc.), you get more chances before that eventuality of perma ban
Keltari (NA)
: Actually, hes not wrong. I literally just played 2 ranked games in a row which had people who quit and/or AFKed. I came to the boards to complain and saw this post. I would say this season, _** at least**_ 25% of my ranked games had people who left or AFKed. Early in the season, it was much higher. There was a large string of games where almost half the games were 4v5. Riot also does not punish people for quitting. Heck, Ive reported people I play with often for quitting and I know they receive no punishment, as I can see them continue to play. Sure, if you do it consistently, Riot will give you an increased queue time. Heavens no! I have to wait an extra 5 to 10 minutes for 5 or 10 games to queue. FFS, they are sitting at a computer! They can watch YouTube or browse the web till the queue pops. The **_ONLY_** time I have seen Riot hand out a serious ban, was when a guy I knew personally was caught for hacking RP. When you steal virtual money from Riot, then they actually do something. He was banned for a year, in which he just mildly annoyed and simply created another account.
it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to tell if someone is punished by LeaveBuster or not unless you get into pre-made with them.
Tele II (NA)
: There is no "quick play" mode.
Can come pretty close to "quick play". I'm a support main, my queue time 90% of the time is less than 10 seconds and 95% of the time I get my first pick. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
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