Cräfty (EUW)
: Gaining 75 LP overall after several hours of playing only to lose it all in just 1 loss...
Guys - it's actually going to get WORSE after the "bug fix". After that huge loss of LP you take which leaves you at 0LP. The next game - you very likely to demote. As losing with 0LP will demote you (when they fix bug). They need to define what "losing" is. Cos currently - I'm interpreting it as getting negative LP in a game... which is VERY LIKELY in higher ranks. Conclusion. 1x 7/8th place pretty much equals a demotion. As you are reduced to 0LP... and then your next game probs get a little negative resulting in immediate demotion. Not fun
Unker139 (NA)
: Think of it like 7 separate games. If you place 4th, you won 4 and lost 3. How much mmr you gain or lose would depend on the mmr of the people in your game. If the matchmaker is placing you with players within a certain range of each other, it is safe to assume that in general 4th and up will gain and 5th down will lose. I haven't seen that not be the case though I have heard of some higher ranked players losing a little at 4th.
Yeah. 4th will either plus or minus up to 10LP for me. Which is frustrating that I can lose 10LP for a 30-40minute game. Considering I did better then 4 other people and worse than 3.
: Yes. On the plus side, demotions have protection buffers while we do NOT have promotion series..... so the game generally is designed to funnel people up the ladder, not down it.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=BcIfvwdn,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-07T00:28:26.317+0000) > > Yes. On the plus side, demotions have protection buffers while we do NOT have promotion series..... so the game generally is designed to funnel people up the ladder, not down it. To a point. The opposite ends up being true the higher up you go. I hit a point where I was only getting positive LP for 3rd place and above. 1st place giving roughly 34Lp where an 8th gives - 50 or more. I'm at a point where I'm more likely to funnel down. And with the 0LP demotion bug being fixed soon... it's defs more likely to demote. eg. To Promote I need 2x 1st place and 1x 3rd+ to promote. To Demote (after bug fix) I need 1x 7/8th place and 1x 4/5/6/7/8. It's pretty demoralizing
tires (NA)
: Yes but it took me a long time. I.e. when I hit plat iv I lost like 7 games at plat iv 0lp before they actually demoted me back to gold. I’m not even talking minor losses. Like 8th place in multiple games lol
> [{quoted}](name=tires,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=BcIfvwdn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-06T19:31:12.914+0000) > > Yes but it took me a long time. > > I.e. when I hit plat iv I lost like 7 games at plat iv 0lp before they actually demoted me back to gold. I’m not even talking minor losses. Like 8th place in multiple games lol That's a bug that will be addressed. When it does - when you start a game at 0LP and you lose (they didn't define what a loss was - assume "negative LP result?), you will be demoted.

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