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: Kayle x Pantheon
This is actually.... super interesting. It would be super cool if in-lore they ended up having to spend time with each other as a necessity because I don't think they would get along at all. But as time went on I think they would find they have much more in common than they would think
rujitra (NA)
: There is no point in continuing this thread when you edit your posts after they are replied to. You made a comment that stated your ban was incorrect. You do not get to make that determination. Riot does. They get to set the rules, and they get to decide whether the rules apply to a given situation. You were correctly punished because you used language that is not tolerated in League of Legends **at all, period, in any context**. That is the rules in League - it doesn't matter what you do on any other platform. Keep in mind that your logs also had other concerning behavior such as passive aggressiveness and harassment - even if we ignore the two words you used that aren't acceptable.
I didn't get a 14-day ban for being passive aggressive. I was banned for player abuse, outlines in the reform card. Of which I was not. Please point out what I edited, as I'm not aware of it myself :) Also, I do get to make a determination of the ban being incorrect or not. Based on rules provided by Riot, I can use deductive reasoning to conclude that the ban is not correct and I do not deserve it. Whether or not Riot will hold themselves to the standards their rules set is another matter.
: i've seen this argument before and still don't understand it league of legends is owned by riot , who, in turn, is owned by tencent twitch is owned by amazon why would either of them **care** how the other one handles hate speech? they're different platforms, owned by differet companies with different purposes. just because they colaborate sometimes does not mean they have the same rules
I didn’t say that at all. I just said that I conduct myself as I would on any other platform. Is that difficult to understand for you?
rujitra (NA)
: You’re obviously wrong. Because you were correctly punished for them. If you’re going to state opinions as fact there’s no point in continuing this thread.
What opinion did I present that you interpreted as a fact and what makes you think that Riot dictates what is right or wrong because of who they ban?
: "Hate speech" is literally on the report screen. It's also generally considered common sense that you don't fucking use those in any situation, in a game or in real life. You don't need to know that it's an instant 14 day to know there's absolutely zero reason to ever say anything on that list. Everything on it is also common-sense, so whether or not you know of it is irrelevant.
Hate speech is targeted speech. My speech was absolutely not targeted. Just using those words isn’t racist or homophobic in any capacity.
: >She means that she expects every LoL player to read the ~~PB Boards regularly~~ **rules from the support website instead of assuming what they could be**, to know about the Zero Tolerance words, and their **potential** effect ~~regarding the punishment~~ on other people than themselves. ftfy
Oh, can you link me the information about Zero Tolerance words please? :D
: >it provides very ambiguous terms it mostly can be summarised with "don't be a jerk" unless youre looking for loopholes i don't understand where the ambiguity is supposed to be
I'm just talking in general, it's nothing to do with my suspension.
: > I do not have the contextual understanding you seem to have. I started playing League of Legends in season 9 and do not have any experience with this. when you fist downloaded the game there's a "i accept the terms and conditions and the summoner's code" button that you needed to click upon making the account. since you didn't bother at the time, i suggest you read it now! you should also take the time to familiarise yourself with how the punishment system works: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/categories/115001242847-Reporting-suspensions-bans
I actually have read the terms and conditions! It's mostly the same as any other platform, it provides very ambiguous terms of which could be used to justify any ban they would like to throw out. This isn't a jab at Riot in particular, it's just a very common occurrence with platforms.
: i'll never understand the backwards logic that leads to one thinking "hmm... this word is not ok to be used so i'll say it anyway because it's a different context" in any case, i suggest responding to blitz bot and asking for a human to review your case. there should be a button at the end of the message facilitating this that said, that "report swain for..." doesn't help your case and neither does the harrassment you've displayed both before and after that line
Also, I don't think that it's illogical to use these words in the context I did at all. I conducted myself how I would on any platform, like on Twitch, of which League of Legends is incredibly popular. The use of these words as not targeted speech is not punishable at all
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} You said 0 tolerance words. Of course you'll get insta 14 day banned Wtf is up with people like you? It's so damn well known that 0 tolerance words give an instant 14 day ban, so why repeat those words? Sure you weren't saying those words towards anyone, but you still said them and the system detected them
I'm not sure what you mean by "people like me" but nevertheless, I do not have the contextual understanding you seem to have. I started playing League of Legends in season 9 and do not have any experience with this. So perhaps that is why I don't know something that is "so well known".
: i'll never understand the backwards logic that leads to one thinking "hmm... this word is not ok to be used so i'll say it anyway because it's a different context" in any case, i suggest responding to blitz bot and asking for a human to review your case. there should be a button at the end of the message facilitating this that said, that "report swain for..." doesn't help your case and neither does the harrassment you've displayed both before and after that line
I did, and they explained that the suspension is appropriately placed. I will be the first to admit that a punishment could be justified and I can take this as an opportunity to learn from my mistakes, however I do not think 14-day ban is justified based off of my comms alone!
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: > When conceptualizing new champions don't try to fit them in the lore. > > Do not fit the lore to suit new characters. Fit the new characters to the lore. Wait. Don't try to fit the new champions to the lore. Fit the new characters to the lore. What?
Falrein (EUW)
: Everything wrong with – Syndra, Kayle, Morgana
I heavily agree with Kayle and Morgana not having a real explanation with what they've been doing all this time. This is a problem that some old characters have been suffering from, like Jax. 3000 years of doing nothing, just chilling lol.
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: Any conversations about Icathia is very limited to what is already made available and if one wanted to debate the whole 'potential' of Icathia, is that anything _could_ be possible. There would be no right or wrong, just pure speclatory.
Yep! Which is fun to talk about :) Stop being a wet blanket lol
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: > do you think there could be other ancient Icathians running around? You of all people who yammers on predominantly over the subject of Icathia, is the most likely to have read every available detail of lore about the place and any champions related to it. If there was any good answer to your own question surely you would've already found it yourself from somewhere in the lore.
I like prompting conversation, and sometimes Riot likes to step in and drop hints every now and again.
Jacksin (OCE)
: Are there more Icathians in Runeterra?
I know Zilean has many in a stasis that he will most likely be able to bring back in the future, but I mean Icathians that are like Jax
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: Sorry, Jinx and Vi do not have the same body types.
jinx is literally the only unique body types one. but she's still heavily sexualised
usul1202 (NA)
: Yup, that's the comment to be reread. Here, since you need some help: Meanwhile, there's more animation in TD ekkos hair/pulsefire caits gun than zilean entire visuals. This isn't because riot artists are dreadlock obsessed/scifi gun nuts, it's because for the same amount of work (or less) they're making orders of magnitude more money. Does rewriting it without the slightest even hint of sexualisation help? You seem hung up on it.
> mf's tits ... > my comment wasn't about sexualisation the point is mate, that when you're talking about money you will always also be talking about sexualisation. thats how riot markets their game
usul1202 (NA)
: Maybe you ought to reread, my comment wasn't about sexualisation, it was about money. Tropes make money, so tropes get champs and skins. If you find a non trope that makes money, it will quickly become a trope (and get a champ or 2).
> Why would riot make that when it doesn't generate a profit, though? Even when she's strong, people aren't playing illaoi or buying skins from her. Meanwhile mf's tits have more animation time spent on them than zileans entire visuals. This isn't because riots artists are sitting there drooling over their artwork, it's because for the same amount of work (or less), they're making orders of magnitude more money.
: >All we get are old edgy dark males with the girly colorful females Illaoi, Taliyah, Rek'sai, Katarina, Diana, Leona, Kayle, Morgana, Tristana, Sivir, Sejuani for darker/less girly ladies Garen, Draven, Teemo, Galio, Ivern, Fizz, Taric, Zac for colorful/less-edgy guys Off the top of my head There are over 140 champions in this game, across every archetype from lonely little girls (Annie) to grimdark old warlocks (Swain) to prettyboi tomb raider/Indiana Jones (Ezreal) to angels, fallen or otherwise (Kayle, Morgana, maybe even Soraka kinda) to Star-forging dragon (Aurelion Sol) to Slaanesh on its day off (Evelynn) to a child on his very own Where The Wild Things Are adventure (Nunu and Willump). If you can't find something that appeals to you throughout this line-up, then frankly I don't know what to tell you. Riot has a lot of faults but to claim they have TOO FEW CHAMPIONS is ludicrous.
You very much stretched it with the males there. Taric is the ONLY one I can accept.
usul1202 (NA)
: Why would riot make that when it doesn't generate a profit, though? Even when she's strong, people aren't playing illaoi or buying skins from her. Meanwhile mf's tits have more animation time spent on them than zileans entire visuals. This isn't because riots artists are sitting there drooling over their artwork, it's because for the same amount of work (or less), they're making orders of magnitude more money. If you want non-standard stuff made, there has to be a reason for it, and stereotype breakers are hard to justify. Of the champs you list, none maintain a strong player base while weak afaik. Meanwhile, weeabo central over here with stereotyped zed, yas, and akali can sit at 45% win rates and be played to hell. The asshole manly men like darius (and Draven to an extent, altho his kit is prohibitive to extensive play imo) show similar effects, as do generic female characters. If you're a designer pitching your idea, how do you justify "its different" against "this gonna fund 2 months of development of legends of runeterra"?
Again, for like the 29th time, I have no problem with Riot producing sexy champions, re-read my post.
: Hey there, soooo there's a couple strong people that seem to have been glossed over. {{champion:55}} She is a living weapon, her background is pretty dark. {{champion:429}} I really should not have to explain her, literally stabbed in the back and looking for vengeance. {{champion:81}} Come on now, SG Ezreal and his Battle Academy form... quite uhhh flamboyant {{champion:28}} Although sexualized heavily, she took the form that would seduce the people of Runeterra without scaring them off. She has to seduce them and then go in for the kill once she has taken everything from them. She feeds off of their suffering. {{champion:25}} Was betrayed by her twin and watched her father die right in front of her. She is dark, but obviously misunderstood. {{champion:110}} Might not be openly flamboyant but is the amalgamation of two male lovers as well as the Darkin. {{champion:222}} She's crazy, and does not have that sort of sexualization that someone like Harley Quinn would have. {{champion:254}} She just wants to punch people and solve problems with her fists. I think you understand my point, I just feel like some of these people to fit that trope that you are looking for.
Every female you listed has almost identical body types and are all sexualised.
: > [{quoted}](name=KnightsKemplar,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jeta3Xeu,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-05T06:22:52.890+0000) > > I'm offended that no one has mentioned {{champion:44}} > > The dude is simultaneously flamboyant and weirdly masculine. He does not fit a stereotype. have you seen his abs and jawline?
Again, this post had very little to do with sexualisation.
: I'm offended that no one has mentioned {{champion:44}} The dude is simultaneously flamboyant and weirdly masculine. He does not fit a stereotype.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jacksin,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jeta3Xeu,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T05:30:57.555+0000) > > Oh my bad. I forgot females don't have muscles LMAO?????? > > Even so, I know what you're trying to say. But you fundementally don't understand what sexualisation is in the context of an art form. > > Please re-read my comment, i read it. you're doing what is known as post hoc which is a logical fallacy. just because females have muscle tissue does not mean they have muscles. those are two different things. if you think they're not then you're not educated or mature enough to have this debate with. that's not meant to be an attack on you, but a fact that muscles as we call them versus muscle tissue is very different. a female will never have the muscular structure that a male has. period. it would require an entire overhaul of our physiological and genetic makeup for that to work and at that point no one alive would dare compare the two different species assuming humans as we know them now and humans as they would be then were both in mutual existence. i'm going to go out on a limb here and just assume that your understanding of what sexualization is is based solely on your lack of understanding and instead are trying to twist the buzz word into your own version for your own goals. that would make your claim more reasonable and then at that point we could agree to disagree because you're just wanting some more champs that fit your own personal fetish. reading your initial post you gave about wanting a dark and mysterious female instead of quiyana when we already have kaisa, morgana, vayne, evelynn, elise, diana, kalista, lissandra, leblanc, katarina, syndra, xayah, and zyra left me confused. but i tried to lean towards the idea of assassin. you said you wanted an assassin... if we ignore katarina, vayne, evelynn, diana, leblanc, and the spider half of elise... sure we don't have any dark brooding assassins. but then you asked me to re-read your stuff. so i did. and you know what sticks out? you don't put riot out on boobs, hips, muscles, and exposed skin. and you even defend that muscles aren't sexualization which is just blatantly wrong by definition. so the only logical conclusion? you want an emo/goth trap girl in a bodysuit because that's what fits your fetish. and that's fine. own it. no need to start a political march against riot because you're not being satisfied. but dont give me that crap about muscles not being sexual or that there aren't any brooding and dark girls in league. it's almost 2020. barely anyone cares what you're into. if you want an emo femboy tell riot you want an emo femboy. they're popular in japan. i get it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/2001_Extravaganza_Strength_Contest.jpg https://barbend.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/amit-sapir-1.jpg
Firstly, you have absolutely no understanding of post hoc ergo propter hoc. That informal logical fallacy has to do with causal relations, and is often along the lines of correlation =/= causation. Secondly, you're biologically illiterate. Muscle refers to muscle tissue, the distinction between the two is only the formation of entire muscle groups. My bicep is just a formation of muscle cells. > just because females have muscle tissue does not mean they have muscles. those are two different things. if you think they're not then you're not educated or mature enough to have this debate with. that's not meant to be an attack on you, but a fact that muscles as we call them versus muscle tissue is very different. I just lost every. single. one. of my braincells reading this comment. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. > a female will never have the muscular structure that a male has. And? How is this relevant in any way? > it would require an entire overhaul of our physiological and genetic makeup for that to work and at that point no one alive would dare compare the two different species assuming humans as we know them now and humans as they would be then were both in mutual existence. I actually don't know what you're trying to say. You are spewing utter nonsense. Did you just say females are another species? LOL??? > i'm going to go out on a limb here and just assume that your understanding of what sexualization is is based solely on your lack of understanding and instead are trying to twist the buzz word into your own version for your own goals. Since you don't know basic definitions, here you go: > sex·​u·​al·​ize | \ ˈsek-sh(ə-)wə-ˌlīz , ˈsek-shə-ˌlīz\ sexualized; sexualizing Definition of sexualize transitive verb : to make apparent or exaggerate sexual features : endow with a sexual character or cast ... > reading your initial post you gave about wanting a dark and mysterious female instead of quiyana when we already have kaisa, morgana, vayne, evelynn, elise, diana, kalista, lissandra, leblanc, katarina, syndra, xayah, and zyra left me confused. but i tried to lean towards the idea of assassin. you said you wanted an assassin... if we ignore katarina, vayne, evelynn, diana, leblanc, and the spider half of elise... sure we don't have any dark brooding assassins. Every champion you just listed is heavily sexualised and not a single one is an AD assassin. You clearly DIDN'T re-read my initial post. > you don't put riot out on boobs, hips, muscles, and exposed skin. Here's a logical fallacy for you: straw man. I did not say this at all. >so the only logical conclusion? you want an emo/goth trap girl in a bodysuit because that's what fits your fetish. and that's fine. own it. no need to start a political march against riot because you're not being satisfied. but dont give me that crap about muscles not being sexual or that there aren't any brooding and dark girls in league. > it's almost 2020. barely anyone cares what you're into. if you want an emo femboy tell riot you want an emo femboy. they're popular in japan. i get it. annnndddd there goes the last of my brain cells. you're an incredibly disingenuous and ignorant.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jacksin,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jeta3Xeu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T03:37:49.370+0000) > > I'm talking about human champions! And just because a champion has muscles doesn't make them sexualized. A sexualized art style is a form that specifically focuses and often exaggerates/puts focus on sexually suggestive features. > > Talon and Zed are very much covered from head to toe in armor and clothing. I guess you’ve never seen talons dance...
It's a pop culture reference to Michael Jackson's dance in a "Billy Jean" musical performance lol
: Im sorry, I just find this thread silly... {{champion:350}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:117}} we got an unconventional females right here. (Lol Urgot) Do we need more? Yes... But let's not shit on the progress made thus far. {{champion:246}} {{champion:235}} These two have sexy body types and while qiyana is generic (appearance wise,) let's not ignore we got a serious black female character. That's wayy huge. It's also a fighting game... There's only so much you can do with morbidly obese designs before they just dont make any sense... Despite this Riot does have varying body types. (Demons, yordles, furries, and {{champion:79}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:83}} Stop shaming the progress. Riot has done more than most.
This post has nothing to do with the stuff you're talking about...? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
klin537 (NA)
: Diana and sejuani are 100% absent of sexualization.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jacksin,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jeta3Xeu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T03:37:49.370+0000) > > I'm talking about human champions! And **just because a champion has muscles doesn't make them sexualized**. A sexualized art style is a form that specifically focuses and often exaggerates/puts focus on sexually suggestive features. > > Talon and Zed are very much covered from head to toe in armor and clothing. actually it does. muscles is one of the defining differences between males and females and has been for a long time. sexualization is the explicit dramatization of sexually representative features.
Oh my bad. I forgot females don't have muscles LMAO?????? Even so, I know what you're trying to say. But you fundementally don't understand what sexualisation is in the context of an art form. Please re-read my comment, > "A sexualized art style is a form that specifically focuses and often exaggerates/puts focus on sexually suggestive features."
: {{champion:1}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:163}} all of these are female champions that aren't sexual or alluring in nature (outside of alt skins, but alt skins are for fan service.) several of them are "dark" in nature. exactly what you're asking for. most of them are clothed from head to toe, with the exception of Riven who has sandles.
{{champion:131}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:113}} Are pretty much the only champs I can accept from your list. Sexualization wasn't the main point of this post dude. I knew this would happen. I mention it off hand and the only comments I get are about it.
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: So, you have problems with stuff but to be clear YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH STUFF. Just teasing. Say what you mean, not what others want to hear. As for your message in this post, I'd agree that having a variety of personalities and themes would be cool. Let's do a run-down: **Sexualized Female Characters** I believe this is mostly subjective to what you find attractive as an individual, but to make this simple we will say that the females who have dis-proportionatly ratiod sized chests, waists, posteriors, and symetrical, elegant faces and minimal clothing are "sexualized". Female champions that fit all of this criteria is actually pretty big. **Sexualized Male Charaters** Again, I believe this is mostly subjective to what you find attractive as an individual, but to make this simple we will say that the males who have strong, sharp features, chiseled muscles, sturdy frame, symetrical elegant faces and clothing that really frames their muscles and body are "sexualized". Male champions that fit all of this criteria is quite a lot as well. So, a **LARGE** pool of champions are sexualized. Is that shocking? No. We like pretty things. We like to interact with pretty things. Each sex has sexy things about them, even if one attribute is more obvious than the other. Moving on to your desire for more exploratory lore, I promise you it's there; You just don't see past the sexualization of the champions. Every single character could be boiled down to a stupid sounding cliche like every single thing in the world can. Looking at {{champion:84}} , you could either choose to see that she is a rebel who finds the way she was taught tedious, encumbersome of the very teachings she was brought up to instill, and decided she had enough of it and went off on her own to bring what she beliefs is the true way of achieving her teachings goals. Pretty darn cool and epic.... or you could go "she is an edgy teenager who ran away from home". Her story is pretty cool and explorative of how ninja's traditionally work. It's not the traditional "damsel in distress" girl who can't fight for herself. {{champion:517}} is the epitome of sexualized (his in-game dance is him gyrating!) His lore is cool in the sense of showing the oppression magic endures in the walls of Demacia. His people are shunned and "lesser" in the eyes of the nobles. His imprisonment festered his hatred of Demacia nobles. Then he found a way to abuse the power of petricite, which Demacia prides itself on. He persuaded Lux to trust him and eventually lead to his freedom, turning the pride of Demacia against itself and beginning a revolution to free magic from Demacia's oppressive clutch. Epic, right? Or you could go "He is just a prisoner who started a revolution. How un-inspired!" He is a man who was oppressed and lashed out. Not the traditional "Knight in shining armor" type of story. I promise you all of the things you want are there and available if you are willing to look at the stories instead of the faces.
yeah I don't disagree with anything you've said. on the money. i gotta make sure to point out that i'm not saying anything risky because people are known on the boards to be a bit... sensitive
: zed and talon are absent of sexualization?!?!?!? okay. i guess muscles aren't sexualized. {{champion:350}} is absent of sexualization. {{champion:223}} is absent of sexualization. {{champion:421}} is absent of sexualization. zed and talon are most definitely sexualized.
I'm talking about human champions! And just because a champion has muscles doesn't make them sexualized. A sexualized art style is a form that specifically focuses and often exaggerates/puts focus on sexually suggestive features. Talon and Zed are very much covered from head to toe in armor and clothing.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Jacksin,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m1cH2cGI,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-12-03T03:16:54.842+0000) > > I disagree, he was a grieving husband and father, which warped him into a monster. His humanity was forsaken and turned himself into something horrifying He became one with the entity and caused bloodshed among Noxians. So yes, he became a monster to those he came after. But don't tell me there is no difference between this: _Time passes quickly. There were more hunts, and more blood; mercies were promised, but withheld. Darkness swirled with the scent of wet leaves, oddly sweet, the broken bodies of men and women rendered wholly abstract in the course of their annihilation. Varus knelt over a sundered cart to seize a communique, pierced through by one of his sharp tendrils; it revealed the names of yet a few more Noxian dogs, responsible for issuing the order...The damning order. What they took from him he would repay a thousand-fold._ And this: _"My kind all but destroyed this world," he said. "And now we have been forgotten? How is that even possible?" With enough time, even the greatest horrors can fade. The voice echoed in his skull, impossible to ignore. Which one was it? Kai OriginalSquare Kai or Valmar OriginalSquare Valmar? He suspected Val, but mortal minds were so simple and muddy that it was hard to tell one from another. "Any race that can forget staring into the abyss of its own extinction does not deserve to live," said Varus._ _In seconds it was over. Sixteen dead, and he hadn't even broken a sweat. He felt the anguish of Valmar and Kai within him, and grinned. Every death gnawed at them, weakened them, and made them less able to fight him._ The first one is the monster with a purpose. A terrible purpose but the one people can empathize with. The second one is angry because people his kind used to treat like cattle survived and he wants to remind them about their place in the Darkin foodchain. Yep, there is also "you imprisoned my kin" motivation but the Darkin lore showed that Darkin were more than happy to kill each other and experienced nothing akin to brotherhood or unity. Why should people give a fuck about this Varus' vengeance?
That's him millennia after being imprisoned. As an ascended, his arc would have mirrored his corruption.
: Because it was a completely half-assed attempt at tokenization that did service to no one. Two humans have literally no personality or character development aside from "they are gay". The part where Darkin is similar to old Varus was added after people massively complained, before which it was essentially "he's an evil demon that likes killing people". Taking a generic but sympathetic character and turning him into a token minority with no substance at all is that kind of forced diversity people usually bad mouth while also doing zero service to people it's supposed to represent as it feels like "here, now you have a character like you, now shut up". Add to it the fact that Riot's writers are capable of delivering damn good stories and this was so much below the standards it was almost insulting.
How is it tokenization? Did you read the comics at all? They clearly have two very distinct personalities. Patriotic navori warriors who fought in the Noxian war. One is enveloped with revenge and spite at what the Noxian invaders did to his lover, the other protective and loving, wanting nothing more than to turn away from hatred and revenge.
: Even though Riot brough some of Varus' old lore back, it still feels stiff and half-assed because the new Varus is still more like a sociopath than a grieving husband and father. In the old lore, he was vengeful but solemn, more focused on the people he lost and how methodical, swift he was when he killed Noxians who were complacent in the massacre of his village. In his new lore, he random kills animals out of spite. Also, the entire duality - a guardian who lost everything because of his duty, succumbed to the corruption he was supposed to contain - has been forever lost. The new Varus is just not wholesome. and none of his parts have the same tragic feeling.
I disagree, he was a grieving husband and father, which warped him into a monster. His humanity was forsaken and turned himself into something horrifying
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Arakadia (NA)
: How? Gay characters don't need justification for existing. Two guys being fused makes more sense than a guy and a girl, because the final form is very masculine. Besides, its not like his old wife was a developed character. No one gave a shit about her, she was in a single sentence to make Varus's loss even greater. Now his lover actually has development. Sure, taking a character in a hetero relationship and putting him in a homo one shouldn't be done if it can be prevented, but making him gay wasn't a big change. The major retcon making him a darkin and all? Sure that was really rough. Changing the gender of his lover? Doesn't matter, especially if it makes more sense with the new lore.
Not to mention VARUS WAS A (presumably) STRAIGHT GUY AND HAD A WIFE + AN ENTIRE FAMILY. People gotta stop saying that Varus' character was entirely changed, when it really wasn't.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sillae,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fGqQi4A7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-01T22:51:50.832+0000) > > Guess I get to be that guy > > > Kindred's the name of Lamb and Wolf together. Lamb is the female, Wolf is the male. So, Kindred is a they. > > > Seriously though I'd love a new Kindred skin, but there are champ out there even more destitute. Such a stupid thing to be hung up on.
He's not really hung up on it, just something to point out. Nothing wrong with that
: Where do black people like Lucian, Ekko, Pyke and Senna originate from on Runeterra?
Well if the map is anything to go off of, we roughly only see 1/4 of Runeterra as a whole. Perhaps this is something that will be explored in the future.
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: Will YasuoxRiven become a canon couple?
I wouldn't be too worried friend, skin lines rarely reflect canon relationships. I understand your speculation but again there's nothing to worry about! :)
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